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I have also seen a very curious effect.

With a TDS meter one can measure the quatity of the dissolved components in
water.

I measured once some 350 microSiemens.
Then a person stirred in the glass with a special pen, and then I only
measured some 260 microSiemens.

That is curious, because the dissolved components could not escape from the
water.
They are still in the water.
Only the electrical conductivity of the water has become less.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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From: "Stephen Vandevijvere" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] water filters?


I've tried the Grander pen a month ago and had very bad side effects from
drinking only one glass... With stuff like Grander pens they seem to program
quite a lot in the water and then it's indeed something like homeopathic
drops, and actually in the same league as Quantum, Earthcalm,... it may suit
you or it may not suit you...

On water there have been a lot of other great researchers, especially
Schauberger, but also Emoto,... Since reading their books I'm also very
passionate about water...

With simply vorticising in a glass bottle you can achieve a lot:

-vorticising clockwise, you reset the water from "(bad) memories" in the
past.
-vorticising anti-clockwise you add energy to the water

I have a lot more energy since I vorticise my water a copple of times...
It's probably very healthy because it's also the most natural way to
energize water...

You can add extra positive energy to water by music, thoughts, words,
symbols...

greets,
Stephen.










--- On Thu, 4/22/10, Helen Murphy <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Helen Murphy <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] water filters?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 1:21 PM


Hi Dietrich!

I am glad there is someone else who understands Grander's work.
Like someone else mentioned, water has a memory, but when you leach stuff
out of it, it becomes like a homeopathic solution and bombards the body even
further.

Cheers , Helen

On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 5:20 AM, <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
>
> Hi Helen,
> the water energizer of Johann Grander is very well known to me. I had one
> for about 10 years, till it broke. This gave me the opportunity to look
> what is inside. There were 2 metallic capsules filled with water, probably
> the
> Grander water from that copper mine, he was using. I was testing them via
> elektroacupuncture and the were still active. I fixed them on my main
> waterpipe and found that they still energize my tap water.
> It is that simple. I then put a sample of water of Lourdes in a small
> plastik bag und fixed this to my water pipe and again the vibration of
> this
>
> water was transported to my tap water.
>
> Well, Grander earns to be honoured, because he probably was the first, who
> discovered this principle, which is so simple. Sorrowly later someone more
> money orientated took over the company.
>
> dietrich
>
> n einer eMail vom 18.04.2010 03:15:02 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt
> [hidden email] <helenmurphybb%40gmail.com>:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> The filter that I use is not a filter but works on transmutation. Much
> like
> what happens with some devices. Designed by Johan Grander who resides
> almost
> as a recluse in Austria, it is used by many food and beverage companies
> throughout the world today.
> The Russians even awarded him a scientific medal even though he is not
> Russian for his discovery. His work is very similar in nature to the works
> of Victor Schauberger.
> I have a whole house system with no moving parts and will last forever
> that
> cost AU$3,000. I also have a little penergizer that I use away from home
> that can be placed in any liquid and it is very easy to taste the
> difference.
> The book- On the Track of Waters Secrets, explains it all, as two
> scientists
> wanted to disprove what Grander had done and ended up finding they could
> not.
> Look up his name and you will find lots of info.
>
> Cheers,
> Helen
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>



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Environomics.com.au
0448 877 384
03 9372 3217


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Re: water filters?

helen
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What a great way to do it Stephen, and it's free!

Helen

On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Stephen Vandevijvere <
[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> I've tried the Grander pen a month ago and had very bad side effects from
> drinking only one glass... With stuff like Grander pens they seem to
> program quite a lot in the water and then it's indeed something like
> homeopathic drops, and actually in the same league as Quantum, Earthcalm,...
> it may suit you or it may not suit you...
>
> On water there have been a lot of other great researchers, especially
> Schauberger, but also Emoto,... Since reading their books I'm also very
> passionate about water...
>
> With simply vorticising in a glass bottle you can achieve a lot:
>
> -vorticising clockwise, you reset the water from "(bad) memories" in the
> past.
> -vorticising anti-clockwise you add energy to the water
>
> I have a lot more energy since I vorticise my water a copple of times...
> It's probably very healthy because it's also the most natural way to
> energize water...
>
> You can add extra positive energy to water by music, thoughts, words,
> symbols...
>
> greets,
> Stephen.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Thu, 4/22/10, Helen Murphy <[hidden email]<helenmurphybb%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> From: Helen Murphy <[hidden email] <helenmurphybb%40gmail.com>>
>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] water filters?
> To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 1:21 PM
>
>
> Hi Dietrich!
>
> I am glad there is someone else who understands Grander's work.
> Like someone else mentioned, water has a memory, but when you leach stuff
> out of it, it becomes like a homeopathic solution and bombards the body
> even
> further.
>
> Cheers , Helen
>
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 5:20 AM, <[hidden email] <Gruendg%40aol.com>>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Helen,
> > the water energizer of Johann Grander is very well known to me. I had one
> > for about 10 years, till it broke. This gave me the opportunity to look
> > what is inside. There were 2 metallic capsules filled with water,
> probably
> > the
> > Grander water from that copper mine, he was using. I was testing them via
> > elektroacupuncture and the were still active. I fixed them on my main
> > waterpipe and found that they still energize my tap water.
> > It is that simple. I then put a sample of water of Lourdes in a small
> > plastik bag und fixed this to my water pipe and again the vibration of
> this
> >
> > water was transported to my tap water.
> >
> > Well, Grander earns to be honoured, because he probably was the first,
> who
> > discovered this principle, which is so simple. Sorrowly later someone
> more
> > money orientated took over the company.
> >
> > dietrich
> >
> > n einer eMail vom 18.04.2010 03:15:02 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt
> > [hidden email] <helenmurphybb%40gmail.com> <helenmurphybb%
> 40gmail.com>:
>
> >
> > Hi Bill,
> >
> > The filter that I use is not a filter but works on transmutation. Much
> like
> > what happens with some devices. Designed by Johan Grander who resides
> > almost
> > as a recluse in Austria, it is used by many food and beverage companies
> > throughout the world today.
> > The Russians even awarded him a scientific medal even though he is not
> > Russian for his discovery. His work is very similar in nature to the
> works
> > of Victor Schauberger.
> > I have a whole house system with no moving parts and will last forever
> > that
> > cost AU$3,000. I also have a little penergizer that I use away from home
> > that can be placed in any liquid and it is very easy to taste the
> > difference.
> > The book- On the Track of Waters Secrets, explains it all, as two
> > scientists
> > wanted to disprove what Grander had done and ended up finding they could
> > not.
> > Look up his name and you will find lots of info.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Helen
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Helen A Murphy
>
> Environomics.com.au
> 0448 877 384
> 03 9372 3217
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>



--
Helen A Murphy

Environomics.com.au
0448 877 384
03 9372 3217


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Re: water filters?

helen
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Charles,

The scientists who studied Grander's water found that it had created what
they term pin points in the water. Little live microbes that ate up all the
bad elements. They found that the longer it sat, the purer it became. This
is why it is used in waste management holding ponds now and in swimming
pools for it's purifying effect.
I have the PDF on the scientific finds if anyone wants it ask me off group.

Cheers, Helen

On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:23 AM, charles <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> I have also seen a very curious effect.
>
> With a TDS meter one can measure the quatity of the dissolved components in
>
> water.
>
> I measured once some 350 microSiemens.
> Then a person stirred in the glass with a special pen, and then I only
> measured some 260 microSiemens.
>
> That is curious, because the dissolved components could not escape from the
>
> water.
> They are still in the water.
> Only the electrical conductivity of the water has become less.
>
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Norton
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Vandevijvere" <[hidden email]<stephen_vandevijvere%40yahoo.com>
> >
> To: <[hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] water filters?
>
> I've tried the Grander pen a month ago and had very bad side effects from
> drinking only one glass... With stuff like Grander pens they seem to
> program
> quite a lot in the water and then it's indeed something like homeopathic
> drops, and actually in the same league as Quantum, Earthcalm,... it may
> suit
> you or it may not suit you...
>
> On water there have been a lot of other great researchers, especially
> Schauberger, but also Emoto,... Since reading their books I'm also very
> passionate about water...
>
> With simply vorticising in a glass bottle you can achieve a lot:
>
> -vorticising clockwise, you reset the water from "(bad) memories" in the
> past.
> -vorticising anti-clockwise you add energy to the water
>
> I have a lot more energy since I vorticise my water a copple of times...
> It's probably very healthy because it's also the most natural way to
> energize water...
>
> You can add extra positive energy to water by music, thoughts, words,
> symbols...
>
> greets,
> Stephen.
>
> --- On Thu, 4/22/10, Helen Murphy <[hidden email]<helenmurphybb%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> From: Helen Murphy <[hidden email] <helenmurphybb%40gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] water filters?
> To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 1:21 PM
>
> Hi Dietrich!
>
> I am glad there is someone else who understands Grander's work.
> Like someone else mentioned, water has a memory, but when you leach stuff
> out of it, it becomes like a homeopathic solution and bombards the body
> even
> further.
>
> Cheers , Helen
>
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 5:20 AM, <[hidden email] <Gruendg%40aol.com>>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Helen,
> > the water energizer of Johann Grander is very well known to me. I had one
> > for about 10 years, till it broke. This gave me the opportunity to look
> > what is inside. There were 2 metallic capsules filled with water,
> probably
> > the
> > Grander water from that copper mine, he was using. I was testing them via
> > elektroacupuncture and the were still active. I fixed them on my main
> > waterpipe and found that they still energize my tap water.
> > It is that simple. I then put a sample of water of Lourdes in a small
> > plastik bag und fixed this to my water pipe and again the vibration of
> > this
> >
> > water was transported to my tap water.
> >
> > Well, Grander earns to be honoured, because he probably was the first,
> who
> > discovered this principle, which is so simple. Sorrowly later someone
> more
> > money orientated took over the company.
> >
> > dietrich
> >
> > n einer eMail vom 18.04.2010 03:15:02 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt
> > [hidden email] <helenmurphybb%40gmail.com> <helenmurphybb%
> 40gmail.com>:
> >
> > Hi Bill,
> >
> > The filter that I use is not a filter but works on transmutation. Much
> > like
> > what happens with some devices. Designed by Johan Grander who resides
> > almost
> > as a recluse in Austria, it is used by many food and beverage companies
> > throughout the world today.
> > The Russians even awarded him a scientific medal even though he is not
> > Russian for his discovery. His work is very similar in nature to the
> works
> > of Victor Schauberger.
> > I have a whole house system with no moving parts and will last forever
> > that
> > cost AU$3,000. I also have a little penergizer that I use away from home
> > that can be placed in any liquid and it is very easy to taste the
> > difference.
> > The book- On the Track of Waters Secrets, explains it all, as two
> > scientists
> > wanted to disprove what Grander had done and ended up finding they could
> > not.
> > Look up his name and you will find lots of info.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Helen
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Helen A Murphy
>
> Environomics.com.au
> 0448 877 384
> 03 9372 3217
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>  
>



--
Helen A Murphy

Environomics.com.au
0448 877 384
03 9372 3217


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