was: 15-25 milligauss ambient readings in my home/ now: what to do?

OK, my thread kinda got hijacked there but I need some further advice.

I have begged and pleaded with my husband to let us move, but he is
not especially interested in doing that, given the state of the
housing market...and I don't blame him, but...

I don't know what to do...!

I have tried many different products out there to ameliorate my
symptoms...most recently, several of the products from earthcalm were
helping quite a bit, but either the "electrosmog" is so unbearably
high that such products are like trying to save the Titanic by turning
on the pumps...or whether it's a cyclical thing, or that my
sensitivity is increasing...????????????????

And though 15-25 milligauss is quite simply intolerable, I still truly
believe (based on my body's reaction) that it is the cell phone towers
and the neighbors' wi-fi's that are truly killing me.
Antennasearch.com shows that within a 4 mile radius of my home, there
are 140 towers and 483 antennae, starting from .36 miles away. The
maps look like a saturation bombing.

So my point/question is this:

The electromagnetic field readings on the trifield meter had a very
significant effect on my husband's ability to believe in my symptoms
and how serious they are. But he still doesn't quite understand the
RF component (which the trifield meter does not really measure in any
meaningful way). He has given me permission to attempt to prove it by
getting a meter that will measure these fields.

So it is of paramount importance that I get the right meter, which
will pick up the signal from my neighbor's wi-fi--which I can
literally feel cooking my brains all day long, every day. I have
looked at the meters you mentioned at Lessemf.com. I have also looked
at this one:

http://www.trifield.com/rf_meter.htm

and the more I read about it, the more confused I am. I understand
the basics (I think) but I am desperate to make sure that I don't blow
it and have my husband think I'm a kook. I am at a loss to understand
the difference between this meter and the ones at Lessemf.com, and
though I would love to save money, the most important thing to me is
making sure that it will measure the fields being given off by the
wi-fi and the cell towers, etc.  

Lastly, can anyone recommend a source for how to interpret the
readings from one of these meters...that is, what sort of established
"safe levels" or range of levels for these fields might be? For
example, I understand that when it comes to electromagnetic fields, 1
to 3 milligauss is considered acceptable, depending on who you listen
to. Are there such recommendations for microwatts/cm3?

I could go on forever with questions I guess, but I had better stop
there...

I would be most grateful for any help at all!

Lisa

In a message dated 05/11/2008 07:13:49 GMT Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

>>>>>>>The electromagnetic field readings on the trifield meter had a very
significant effect on my husband's ability to believe in my symptoms
and how serious they are.



I think you may be heading down a blind alley. It seems not the field
itself that matters, but the components of the field and how they change. For
some people, applying a stronger electromagnetic field helps. But there is no
one solution that fits everyone. The best meter you find may not indicate
the types of field that cause you the most problems.

Get your husband to recognise that electrosensitivity exists and then look
at ways of living with it.
Show him the videos on this site, it might help.

http://electrosensitivity.co.uk/4.html

and show him the proof that some people really are electrosensitive here

http://electrosensitivity.co.uk/7.html

But moving to somewhere where there is no field is not an answer, imho. If
you find somewhere that you and your family can live and work today, there
could be a mast or a relay centre there tomorrow.

best wishes

John
electrosensitivity.co.uk


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> I have tried many different products out there to ameliorate my
> symptoms...

Have you tried experimenting with supplements? Antioxidants,
minerals, essential fatty acids, and binders of toxins can all
help reduce symptoms in some people.

> most recently, several of the products from earthcalm were
> helping quite a bit, but either the "electrosmog" is so unbearably
> high that such products are like trying to save the Titanic by turning
> on the pumps...or whether it's a cyclical thing, or that my
> sensitivity is increasing...????????????????

I didn't find the Earthcalm products able to solve my problems
either. They certainly seemed helpful at first, but then
I'd go into "overload", and they would then become a source
of problems. When you say that your sensitivity might be
increasing, you may just be using the Earthcalm products
too much -- try cutting your use to half (or less) and see
if you feel better. Or try some different EMF products,
maybe even rotating them throughout the day (Earthcalm
for some amount of time each day, then switch to something
else for some amount of time each day)

Someone else will have to answer your questions on RF / Wifi
meters... I just generally use myself as a "human meter".

Marc

 my meters RF measurements are in MW/M2 I assume that 0.05 mw/m2 is the same as 0.05 uw/cm2 ?
 
Ada

"Although my Soul shall set in Darkness, I will raise in Perfect Light, I have Loved the Stars to Fondly to be Fearful of the Night."

unknown

--- On Thu, 6/11/08, jaime_schunkewitz <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: jaime_schunkewitz <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: was: 15-25 milligauss ambient readings in my home/ now: what to do?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 2:34 AM






If your living and sleeping in 20 mili gauss then run!

I don't think the RF field strength meter is going to
measure your neighbor's wifi. Mine doesn't begin
measuring a wireless router within 5 ft or so.

The RF meter is for far field measurements, which means
you have to be 3 meters or so away from the RF source.
At 3 meters it's not nearly sensitive enough to
detect the RF from a computer, monitor etc. It will detect
a cell tower 100 yards away though.

Common ambient measurements are usually less than
0.005 uw/cm2 (at least that's what I measure). Some
recommend a safe level less than 0.1 uw/cm2. Forget
about the government standards. You may as well bunk
out in a microwave oven.

You may want to look at the electrosmog detector as
well, which is twice as sensitive for much less dinero.
But the alpha labs meter is calibrated and provides
a numeric readout.

If your exposed to 20 mili gauss how can you possibly
think the cause of your ills are you neighbor's wifi?
I'd also look at other sources of EMF that may be making
you ill. Do you drive? Do you watch tv? do you use a
computer, a cell phone.

You sensitivity can also be affected by your diet
medications, supplements.

Eli

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "lthngsbrtnbtfl2" <lbergman2@. ..> wrote:
 














     

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

One thing that is very simple that has helped me is making sure i do a daily physical routine which includes yoga when i am feeling really good , but at least elements of Donna edens energy routines when I am not. I have posted the links for the energy medicnce routines in the link section. If thereis one thing that I have found that makes a huge difference to how I wake up in the morning , it is doing the zip up exercise last thing at night before i go to bed It seems to ensure that the central and governing meridiansstay together during sleep , which in my opinion seesm to give the body more protection while asleep. I find if i do that at night my energy is much more congruent  and buoyant when i wake up in the morning, this is a small thing but it at least allows me to feel a tad more rested.Doing the whole routine daily ( takes about five mins) helps to put me in contact with my body , get energy moving , suport the liver and spleen , and flush
out the lymphatics. I find it really helps.
Ada
 
 
 
"Although my Soul shall set in Darkness, I will raise in Perfect Light, I have Loved the Stars to Fondly to be Fearful of the Night."

unknown

--- On Thu, 6/11/08, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] was: 15-25 milligauss ambient readings in my home/ now: what to do?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 2:23 AM






> I have tried many different products out there to ameliorate my
> symptoms...

Have you tried experimenting with supplements? Antioxidants,
minerals, essential fatty acids, and binders of toxins can all
help reduce symptoms in some people.

> most recently, several of the products from earthcalm were
> helping quite a bit, but either the "electrosmog" is so unbearably
> high that such products are like trying to save the Titanic by turning
> on the pumps...or whether it's a cyclical thing, or that my
> sensitivity is increasing.. .???????? ????????

I didn't find the Earthcalm products able to solve my problems
either. They certainly seemed helpful at first, but then
I'd go into "overload", and they would then become a source
of problems. When you say that your sensitivity might be
increasing, you may just be using the Earthcalm products
too much -- try cutting your use to half (or less) and see
if you feel better. Or try some different EMF products,
maybe even rotating them throughout the day (Earthcalm
for some amount of time each day, then switch to something
else for some amount of time each day)

Someone else will have to answer your questions on RF / Wifi
meters... I just generally use myself as a "human meter".

Marc

 














     

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

If your living and sleeping in 20 mili gauss then run!

The RF field strength meter may not be sensitive enough to
to measure your neighbor's wifi. Mine doesn't begin
measuring a wireless router within 6 ft or so. But it
does detect a cell phone more than 30 ft away. It will also
detect a cell tower 100 yards away.

The RF meter is for far field measurements, which means
you have to be 3 meters or so away from the RF source.
At 3 meters it's not nearly sensitive enough to
detect the RF from a computer, monitor, mouse, etc.

Common ambient measurements are usually less than
0.005 uw/cm2 (at least that's what I measure in my house).
Some recommend a safe level less than 0.1 uw/cm2. Forget
about the government standards. You may as well bunk
out in a microwave oven.

You may want to look at the electrosmog detector as
well, which is twice as sensitive for much less dinero.
But the alpha labs meter is calibrated and provides
a numeric readout to 1 nano watt/cm2.

If your exposed to 20 mili gauss how can you possibly
think the cause of your ills are you neighbor's wifi?
I'd also look at other sources of EMF that may be making
you ill. Do you drive? Do you watch tv? do you use a
computer, a cell phone.

You sensitivity can also be affected by your diet
medications, supplements.

Eli

--- In [hidden email], "lthngsbrtnbtfl2" <lbergman2@...> wrote:
>
> OK, my thread kinda got hijacked there but I need some further
advice.
>
> I have begged and pleaded with my husband to let us move, but he is
> not especially interested in doing that, given the state of the
> housing market...and I don't blame him, but...
>
> I don't know what to do...!
>
> I have tried many different products out there to ameliorate my
> symptoms...most recently, several of the products from earthcalm
were
> helping quite a bit, but either the "electrosmog" is so unbearably
> high that such products are like trying to save the Titanic by
turning
> on the pumps...or whether it's a cyclical thing, or that my
> sensitivity is increasing...????????????????
>
> And though 15-25 milligauss is quite simply intolerable, I still
truly
> believe (based on my body's reaction) that it is the cell phone
towers
> and the neighbors' wi-fi's that are truly killing me.
> Antennasearch.com shows that within a 4 mile radius of my home,
there
> are 140 towers and 483 antennae, starting from .36 miles away. The
> maps look like a saturation bombing.
>
> So my point/question is this:
>
> The electromagnetic field readings on the trifield meter had a very
> significant effect on my husband's ability to believe in my symptoms
> and how serious they are. But he still doesn't quite understand the
> RF component (which the trifield meter does not really measure in
any
> meaningful way). He has given me permission to attempt to prove it
by
> getting a meter that will measure these fields.
>
> So it is of paramount importance that I get the right meter, which
> will pick up the signal from my neighbor's wi-fi--which I can
> literally feel cooking my brains all day long, every day. I have
> looked at the meters you mentioned at Lessemf.com. I have also
looked
> at this one:
>
> http://www.trifield.com/rf_meter.htm
>
> and the more I read about it, the more confused I am. I understand
> the basics (I think) but I am desperate to make sure that I don't
blow
> it and have my husband think I'm a kook. I am at a loss to
understand
> the difference between this meter and the ones at Lessemf.com, and
> though I would love to save money, the most important thing to me is
> making sure that it will measure the fields being given off by the
> wi-fi and the cell towers, etc.  
>
> Lastly, can anyone recommend a source for how to interpret the
> readings from one of these meters...that is, what sort of
established
> "safe levels" or range of levels for these fields might be? For
> example, I understand that when it comes to electromagnetic fields,
1
> to 3 milligauss is considered acceptable, depending on who you
listen
> to. Are there such recommendations for microwatts/cm3?
>
> I could go on forever with questions I guess, but I had better stop
> there...
>
> I would be most grateful for any help at all!
>
> Lisa
>

--- In [hidden email], "jaime_schunkewitz"
<jaime_schunkewitz@...> wrote:
>
> If your living and sleeping in 20 mili gauss then run!
>

Believe me, I've wanted to do nothing else for the past two years or
so. I wish it were that easy. I'm not the breadwinner, and my
husband is "sympathetic", which is to say he's terribly sorry I'm not
feeling well, but I might as well be a child afraid of the monster in
the closet.

Meanwhile, we have 5 children, most of whom suffer from some degree of
hyperactivity; one has Asperger's syndrome and one has Dyslexia/ADHD.
All disorders of the central nervous system, no surprise there, eh?


> The RF field strength meter may not be sensitive enough to
> to measure your neighbor's wifi. Mine doesn't begin
> measuring a wireless router within 6 ft or so. But it
> does detect a cell phone more than 30 ft away. It will also
> detect a cell tower 100 yards away.
>
This is not so good for my purposes...are there any meters that can do
this??? My neighbor's house is about 12 feet away, and I'm reasonably
certain his wi-fi is within a few feet of the wall. I can feel it.

> If your exposed to 20 mili gauss how can you possibly
> think the cause of your ills are you neighbor's wifi?

*smirk* Well, I imagine that most people here can sympathize when I
say that I can just tell... Whether the 20 milligauss is making the
rest worse, who can say? Obviously, it's not helping!!!

But I have terrible chest pain whenever I have to spend more than a
few moments in the presence of a cell phone tower or the GPS in our
car or in the wi-fi area of our local library. Sleeping in my own
bed--which is against the wall closest to the neighbor's wi-fi--makes
me feel like my brain is being nuked. The muscles in my face freeze
up so that my eyes won't shut. Sleeping on the opposite end of the
house alleviates these symptoms enough to make it livable.  

In fact, I first realized that my symptoms were due to EMFs because
they went away when our wi-fi went on the fritz and we turned it off
for several months. Turning it back on brought the symptoms back,
etc. Voila.

> I'd also look at other sources of EMF that may be making
> you ill. Do you drive? Do you watch tv? do you use a
> computer, a cell phone.

I am a bit of a computer addict, though I try to limit it, and there
is no doubt that my symptoms are worse after using a computer for an
extended period of time...yet the trifield meter doesn't seem to
indicate a strong field coming from the CPU or monitor except at very
close range...

> You sensitivity can also be affected by your diet
> medications, supplements.

Actually, we are highly diet conscious, and we eat zero sugar or
grains. We do a fair amount of juicing and we try to eat raw foods
whenever possible. I can tell that my body definitely tends toward
the acidic, since having too much alkaline-forming food gives me
raging detox headaches.  

So I'm certain that my acidity has something to do with it, but all
the same, and with all due respect, I can't understand how anyone
ought to be expected to live with the levels of EMFs and RFs that we
have in this house, no matter what diet. ;)

Moving surely will not be a panacea, however, to stay here seems insane...

Many thanks for all the replies--and I welcome all further advice!

Lisa

Chest pains - me too. Since I've reduced my exposure it's been
improving.
I don't doubt the RF is affecting you. 30 seconds near a cell phone
make me feel ill (nausea) and causes severe tinnitus.
GPS doesn't emit RF. It's just a receiver.
Try the electosmog detector or spend big bucks for a more sensitive
RF meter. Your neighbor may have a very strong wifi router in which
case the alpha labs rf meter may work.
Just because you can't measure the computer EMFs several ft. away
doesn't mean they're not affecting you. The fields go to infinity.
Being an electrosensitive and a computer addict is contradicatory.
Lay off it.

Eli

--- In [hidden email], "lthngsbrtnbtfl2" <lbergman2@...> wrote: not
> feeling well, but I might as well be a child afraid of the monster
in
> the closet.
>
> Meanwhile, we have 5 children, most of whom suffer from some degree
of
> hyperactivity; one has Asperger's syndrome and one has
Dyslexia/ADHD. do
> this??? My neighbor's house is about 12 feet away, and I'm
reasonably makes very insane...
>
> Many thanks for all the replies--and I welcome all further advice!
>
> Lisa
>
>
>
> > --- In [hidden email], "lthngsbrtnbtfl2" <lbergman2@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > OK, my thread kinda got hijacked there but I need some further
> > advice.
> > >
> > > I have begged and pleaded with my husband to let us move, but
he is
> > > not especially interested in doing that, given the state of the
> > > housing market...and I don't blame him, but...
> > >
> > > I don't know what to do...!
> > >
> > > I have tried many different products out there to ameliorate my
> > > symptoms...most recently, several of the products from
earthcalm
> > were
> > > helping quite a bit, but either the "electrosmog" is so
unbearably
> > > high that such products are like trying to save the Titanic by
> > turning
> > > on the pumps...or whether it's a cyclical thing, or that my
> > > sensitivity is increasing...????????????????
> > >
> > > And though 15-25 milligauss is quite simply intolerable, I
still
> > truly
> > > believe (based on my body's reaction) that it is the cell phone
> > towers
> > > and the neighbors' wi-fi's that are truly killing me.
> > > Antennasearch.com shows that within a 4 mile radius of my home,
> > there
> > > are 140 towers and 483 antennae, starting from .36 miles away.  
The
> > > maps look like a saturation bombing.
> > >
> > > So my point/question is this:
> > >
> > > The electromagnetic field readings on the trifield meter had a
very
> > > significant effect on my husband's ability to believe in my
symptoms
> > > and how serious they are. But he still doesn't quite
understand the
> > > RF component (which the trifield meter does not really measure
in
> > any
> > > meaningful way). He has given me permission to attempt to
prove it
> > by
> > > getting a meter that will measure these fields.
> > >
> > > So it is of paramount importance that I get the right meter,
which
> > > will pick up the signal from my neighbor's wi-fi--which I can
> > > literally feel cooking my brains all day long, every day. I
have
> > > looked at the meters you mentioned at Lessemf.com. I have also
> > looked
> > > at this one:
> > >
> > > http://www.trifield.com/rf_meter.htm
> > >
> > > and the more I read about it, the more confused I am. I
understand
> > > the basics (I think) but I am desperate to make sure that I
don't
> > blow
> > > it and have my husband think I'm a kook. I am at a loss to
> > understand
> > > the difference between this meter and the ones at Lessemf.com,
and
> > > though I would love to save money, the most important thing to
me is
> > > making sure that it will measure the fields being given off by
the
> > > wi-fi and the cell towers, etc.  
> > >
> > > Lastly, can anyone recommend a source for how to interpret the
> > > readings from one of these meters...that is, what sort of
> > established
> > > "safe levels" or range of levels for these fields might be? For
> > > example, I understand that when it comes to electromagnetic
fields,
> > 1
> > > to 3 milligauss is considered acceptable, depending on who you
> > listen
> > > to. Are there such recommendations for microwatts/cm3?
> > >
> > > I could go on forever with questions I guess, but I had better
stop
> > > there...
> > >
> > > I would be most grateful for any help at all!
> > >
> > > Lisa
> > >
> >
>

Chest pains - me too. Since I've reduced my exposure it's been
improving. Computers, TVs, cars, cell phones, 60 Hz power lines are
the worst offenders.
I don't doubt the RF is affecting you. 30 seconds near a cell phone
make me feel ill (nausea) and causes severe tinnitus.
GPS doesn't emit RF. It's just a receiver.
Try the electosmog detector or spend big bucks for a more sensitive
RF meter. Your neighbor may have a very strong wifi router in which
case the alpha labs rf meter may work.
Just because you can't measure the computer EMFs several ft. away
doesn't mean they're not affecting you. The fields go to infinity.
Being electrosensitive and a computer addict is contradictory.
Lay off it.

Eli

--- In [hidden email], "lthngsbrtnbtfl2" <lbergman2@...> wrote: not
> feeling well, but I might as well be a child afraid of the monster
in
> the closet.
>
> Meanwhile, we have 5 children, most of whom suffer from some degree
of
> hyperactivity; one has Asperger's syndrome and one has
Dyslexia/ADHD. do
> this??? My neighbor's house is about 12 feet away, and I'm
reasonably makes very insane...
>
> Many thanks for all the replies--and I welcome all further advice!
>
> Lisa
>
>
>
> > --- In [hidden email], "lthngsbrtnbtfl2" <lbergman2@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > OK, my thread kinda got hijacked there but I need some further
> > advice.
> > >
> > > I have begged and pleaded with my husband to let us move, but
he is
> > > not especially interested in doing that, given the state of the
> > > housing market...and I don't blame him, but...
> > >
> > > I don't know what to do...!
> > >
> > > I have tried many different products out there to ameliorate my
> > > symptoms...most recently, several of the products from
earthcalm
> > were
> > > helping quite a bit, but either the "electrosmog" is so
unbearably
> > > high that such products are like trying to save the Titanic by
> > turning
> > > on the pumps...or whether it's a cyclical thing, or that my
> > > sensitivity is increasing...????????????????
> > >
> > > And though 15-25 milligauss is quite simply intolerable, I
still
> > truly
> > > believe (based on my body's reaction) that it is the cell phone
> > towers
> > > and the neighbors' wi-fi's that are truly killing me.
> > > Antennasearch.com shows that within a 4 mile radius of my home,
> > there
> > > are 140 towers and 483 antennae, starting from .36 miles away.  
The
> > > maps look like a saturation bombing.
> > >
> > > So my point/question is this:
> > >
> > > The electromagnetic field readings on the trifield meter had a
very
> > > significant effect on my husband's ability to believe in my
symptoms
> > > and how serious they are. But he still doesn't quite
understand the
> > > RF component (which the trifield meter does not really measure
in
> > any
> > > meaningful way). He has given me permission to attempt to
prove it
> > by
> > > getting a meter that will measure these fields.
> > >
> > > So it is of paramount importance that I get the right meter,
which
> > > will pick up the signal from my neighbor's wi-fi--which I can
> > > literally feel cooking my brains all day long, every day. I
have
> > > looked at the meters you mentioned at Lessemf.com. I have also
> > looked
> > > at this one:
> > >
> > > http://www.trifield.com/rf_meter.htm
> > >
> > > and the more I read about it, the more confused I am. I
understand
> > > the basics (I think) but I am desperate to make sure that I
don't
> > blow
> > > it and have my husband think I'm a kook. I am at a loss to
> > understand
> > > the difference between this meter and the ones at Lessemf.com,
and
> > > though I would love to save money, the most important thing to
me is
> > > making sure that it will measure the fields being given off by
the
> > > wi-fi and the cell towers, etc.  
> > >
> > > Lastly, can anyone recommend a source for how to interpret the
> > > readings from one of these meters...that is, what sort of
> > established
> > > "safe levels" or range of levels for these fields might be? For
> > > example, I understand that when it comes to electromagnetic
fields,
> > 1
> > > to 3 milligauss is considered acceptable, depending on who you
> > listen
> > > to. Are there such recommendations for microwatts/cm3?
> > >
> > > I could go on forever with questions I guess, but I had better
stop
> > > there...
> > >
> > > I would be most grateful for any help at all!
> > >
> > > Lisa
> > >
> >
>

I think 1 uw/cm2= 10 mw/m2.

--- In [hidden email], ada iye <betty_starbuckle@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>  my meters RF measurements are in MW/M2 I assume that 0.05 mw/m2
is the same as 0.05 uw/cm2 ?
>  
> Ada
>
> "Although my Soul shall set in Darkness, I will raise in Perfect
Light, I have Loved the Stars to Fondly to be Fearful of the Night."
>
> unknown
>
> --- On Thu, 6/11/08, jaime_schunkewitz <jaime_schunkewitz@...>
wrote:
>
> From: jaime_schunkewitz <jaime_schunkewitz@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: was: 15-25 milligauss ambient readings in my
home/ now: what to do? wrote:
> >
> > OK, my thread kinda got hijacked there but I need some further
advice.
> >
> > I have begged and pleaded with my husband to let us move, but he
is
> > not especially interested in doing that, given the state of the
> > housing market...and I don't blame him, but...
> >
> > I don't know what to do...!
> >
> > I have tried many different products out there to ameliorate my
> > symptoms...most recently, several of the products from earthcalm
were
> > helping quite a bit, but either the "electrosmog" is so unbearably
> > high that such products are like trying to save the Titanic by
turning
> > on the pumps...or whether it's a cyclical thing, or that my
> > sensitivity is increasing.. .???????? ????????
> >
> > And though 15-25 milligauss is quite simply intolerable, I still
truly
> > believe (based on my body's reaction) that it is the cell phone
towers
> > and the neighbors' wi-fi's that are truly killing me.
> > Antennasearch. com shows that within a 4 mile radius of my home,
there
> > are 140 towers and 483 antennae, starting from .36 miles away. The
> > maps look like a saturation bombing.
> >
> > So my point/question is this:
> >
> > The electromagnetic field readings on the trifield meter had a
very
> > significant effect on my husband's ability to believe in my
symptoms
> > and how serious they are. But he still doesn't quite understand
the
> > RF component (which the trifield meter does not really measure in
any
> > meaningful way). He has given me permission to attempt to prove
it by
> > getting a meter that will measure these fields.
> >
> > So it is of paramount importance that I get the right meter, which
> > will pick up the signal from my neighbor's wi-fi--which I can
> > literally feel cooking my brains all day long, every day. I have
> > looked at the meters you mentioned at Lessemf.com. I have also
looked
> > at this one:
> >
> > http://www.trifield .com/rf_meter. htm
> >
> > and the more I read about it, the more confused I am. I understand
> > the basics (I think) but I am desperate to make sure that I don't
blow
> > it and have my husband think I'm a kook. I am at a loss to
understand
> > the difference between this meter and the ones at Lessemf.com, and
> > though I would love to save money, the most important thing to me
is
> > making sure that it will measure the fields being given off by the
> > wi-fi and the cell towers, etc.
> >
> > Lastly, can anyone recommend a source for how to interpret the
> > readings from one of these meters...that is, what sort of
established
> > "safe levels" or range of levels for these fields might be? For
> > example, I understand that when it comes to electromagnetic
fields, 1
> > to 3 milligauss is considered acceptable, depending on who you
listen
> > to. Are there such recommendations for microwatts/cm3?
> >
> > I could go on forever with questions I guess, but I had better
stop

[hidden email] wrote:
> But moving to somewhere where there is no field is not an answer, imho. If
> you find somewhere that you and your family can live and work today, there
> could be a mast or a relay centre there tomorrow.
>

But moving to anywhere with Less bombardment will certainly help, even
if that area changes in future years.

Any of us who have felt that bombardment will agree we'd do 'anything'
to get away from that area/cause.

An illustration: If you lived in an inner city neighborhood with gang
violence and gunshots every night, would you really try to stay there
and, "live with it?" or not move because the new neighborhood might have
them move in too?

If the gauss meter opens eyes, then you're right, you need a good RF
meter that covers the frequency range you are concerned about. I know
that is not easy.
Charles has made several recommendations (search the archives), but I
still think the Zap Checker is very good for sensitivity. Since I'm not
in Europe, I have not tried his top picks, just like he hasn't reviewed
the Zap Checker that I know of.

Stewart

Dear Lisa,  

I have a similar situation. My neighbor has a satellite tv antenna.
I also feel my head literally cooking. It's about 10 meters from my
head when I sleep there. Now I am camping outside my home, not the
first time I do so as I have done it in other places I have lived.
I also feel my eyes being sucked. It is terrible, painful. I have
felt my life draining away.  

Can't you folks sleep in a different part of that home? Just by being
far from that offender helps.

Flavio

I don't think you want the RF meter. Most of them don't have the
response time to deal with digital signals. Get something with sound
output so you can hear the modulation. The cheapest is the $90
electrosmog detector at lessEMF and elsewhere. The Gigahertz solutions
meters are great but I think starting at $450 or so.

Bill

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