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Hawk

touch devices

My finger hurts..
After using my "smart phone samsung galaxy express 2 my point finger hurts,.,
I've experienced this with computers as well.. but when i measures my phone with my radio. it is interesting how much radiation that this device (and especially screen) outputs. feel this also effects my eyes and throat chakra...
any inputs ?
don't think my moms iphone is as bad. have not tried it much.
have not tried to heal my finger yet, but will do.

since i feel better i can experiment a little..

Fog Top

RE: touch devices

I haven't been able to tolerate using the old flip-open cell phones for a couple of years, so I can't say what using a smart phone would do to me. However, I have a friend with Samsung Galaxy smart phone (don't know if it's an "express") and I feel it as soon as he walks in the door and have to remind him to turn it off.

Many of the older cell phones don't pulse all the time, only when in use or information is downloaded. The Samsung Galaxy my friend has pulses when not in use about every 30 seconds. I have an HF35C analyzer which shows that his phone's pulse is greater than 2.5 GHz.

If you measure the screens of cell phones, computers, TVs, iPads, CFL bulbs and fluorescent lights... with a gauss device like a Trifield meter, it will show that they all give off a high magnetic field. Being near a high magnetic field feels just as bad to me as being near high frequency like that of a cell tower or Wifi.

Most computer mouse (mouses, mice? ha! What's the plural of computer mouse?) have a high magnetic field which make my hand hurt. LessEMF sells one that's the old HP ball type for around $10 that's much easier on a body. Placing hands over a laptop also has the high magnetic field pain problem. I use a USB adapter on my laptop and plug in the old ball type mouse and a low-EMF keyboard and push the computer as far away as possible, and that way I'm able to tolerate it.

Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 12:41:37 -0700
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My finger hurts..
After using my "smart phone samsung galaxy express 2 my point finger hurts,.,
I've experienced this with computers as well.. but when i measures my phone with my radio. it is interesting how much radiation that this device (and especially screen) outputs. feel this also effects my eyes and throat chakra...
any inputs ?
don't think my moms iphone is as bad. have not tried it much.
have not tried to heal my finger yet, but will do.

since i feel better i can experiment a little..

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Salt Water Cure

Re: touch devices

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Hi Hawk
I too suffered all these problems with touch devices and pc's etc. However, since increasing my salt intake I'm ES free. Please see my salt water cure page, and if you try it please let the community here know what you discover.
All the best Rob

Patricia

Re: touch devices

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hawk, i was just reviewing your posts,

hoping to find the link to your website

(maybe you can include it each time

you refer to your site in a new post)...

at any rate, i was wondering as i read

this if maybe surrounding your finger

with salt might be helpful? might pull

out the pain? maybe that's why animals

go to the river bank and bury their

'owies' - because the minerals in the

mud will pull the 'bad stuff' out? clay

is a good thing to keep around for a lot

of purposes. but it doesn't have to

come from france or israel - wherever

you are, there is clay and it's "good for

what ails ye" - both internally and

externally. my roommate read

something recently about someone

whose diabetes disappeared after he

(or maybe it was a she) started to take

clay internally. clay will absorb toxins

and also provide minerals that are

needed... the body is wise and knows

whether to release toxins or absorb

nutrients from any substance. and the

body also knows when it's had enough...

you will no longer find it attractive once

the need has been met. so salt or clay...

i wonder if either would be helpful to

your finger?

love, patricia

On Oct 9, 2014, at 2:41 PM, Hawk [via ES] wrote:

My finger hurts..
After using my "smart phone samsung galaxy express 2 my point finger hurts,.,
I've experienced this with computers as well.. but when i measures my phone with my radio. it is interesting how much radiation that this device (and especially screen) outputs. feel this also effects my eyes and throat chakra...
any inputs ?
don't think my moms iphone is as bad. have not tried it much.
have not tried to heal my finger yet, but will do.

since i feel better i can experiment a little..

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Hawk

Re: touch devices

hi.
i dont have a site.. only far into woods ;)
or was there another site you where thinking about? something ive mentioned?

after i used the phone more. the finger pain diminished. or maybe it was the zeolite drops ive been taking. it was worse in the beginning. had phone time out. maybe the body adjusted. hard to tell with this sensitivity thing.
many transmitters in these "smart" phones. kind of dangerous to think about, frequency wise. at least i can cap the battery whenever i like.
been looking for clay... waiting for spring. will do footbaths. pull it out trough the feets. the body pushes toxins downwards. away from the organs.
peace, hawk ;)

charles

RE: touch devices

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It is not the high frequencies.
The culprit is just in the lower frequencies from 5 kHz up tp 1MHz, and even to 30MHz.

It is all what I call *dirty air*, contrary to *dirty power* which is mainly in the electrical wires.

I have measured, that for instance from an UMTS signal, which is about 2150MHz, teher are frequencies of 100kHz.
They are as *dirty air*. Theu go into metals, like wirings in the house, and come out of your wall sockets as *dirty air* again.
Also signals of 30kHz.

I had even detected radar signals, which were too high in frequency for my HF meter, but I couls measure with my VLF Detector as signals of 30kHz.

Typically, many electrosensitives can get used to high frequency signals, but get hit hard by very low fields of low level frequency signals. And their longitudinal waves.

Samsung S3 is a very bad smartphone.
The newer iPhones are better.

Hawk

RE: touch devices

wish i knew more about frequencies in general. we all react differently though. in the last magazine from esens norway( felo.no ) there was a girl who wrote about her story when she was travellin europe this summer. she only had troubles with LF(low frequency magnetic field). 50 hz and so on. this i dont understand. since HF fields have always been bothering me. i have even worked as an electrician. lol.
i think it really depends on the resonance state of the body. might be a good topic for discussion/research.

anyways i agree about the iphone. had a friend visiting me a couple of days ago and i showed him with my radio what sounds (emf) that was there but not heard. he was surprised. me too. he had the newest iphone and much much less emf coming from it than my samsung galaxy express 2. i dont trust them anyway. because there was no emf when he was using 3g internet. this is not possible. might be a trick.
btw my phone was a gift from auntie since she felt sorry for me with my old fashion 30€ nokia. she wanted me to be able to get pictures too ;)

Ellen

RE: touch devices

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Charles, Would shutting off the circuits to the bedroom at night keep the "dirty air" from that room? Ellen

charles

RE: touch devices

Sure.

But be aware that socalled *Demanmd Switches* are able to produce *dirty air*.

As far as I know, the ones with radio command are safe.