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Thank you for more information! I'm feeling a little overwhelmed. My memory and learning ability don't work too well right now, with my body toxin load, body infection load, and electrical sensitivity combined. And this electrical sensitivity stuff sounds complicated! Among other things, I was interested to hear (from Stephen?) that I might work on my electrolytes. I'm sure that's a big issue for me. I get cramping in my legs because my electrolytes are off/depleted. Underwire bra -- that had not occurred to me yet, either! That's a hard one to leave behind! The next time I buy glasses, I already know they have to be plastic not metal (which they are now). from Marc's mattress idea, I noticed when I was sleeping that I felt less electrosmogged, at the edge of the bed facing out from it, rather than turned in toward the middle of the bed... That is interesting, Stephen, about messing with the cosmic rays, like withdennyfoil as part of a home's insulation... And that makes sense, that a shielding fabric would become an electrical hot-spot, if the circuit breaker isn't turned off. I have had a pet theory that it is my huge load of heavy metals that causesmy electrical sensitivity. I have just started to do green smoothies (a very small amount, in my case) -- the chlorophyll in the greens was binding heavy metals so well, that I had to back down from 4 cups per day to 1/2 cup per day. My brain was in chaos and pain, from too much heavy metal mobilization at once. I was wondering if this out-flux of heavy metals from my body, via the green smoothies, might be part of why I am so much more sensitive right now. Anyone had any experience like this? I just heard some great news yesterday, that Pacific Gas & Electric seems to have made a formal decision that they must accommodate people with electrical sensitivity. (Before now, those customers were only allowed a temporary reprieve.) Now, if you have electrical sensitivity or cancer, it seems you can refuse the meters. That is a big deal! One step at a time... All best, Sue |
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> I get cramping in my legs because my electrolytes are off/depleted.
Or more specifically, I think leg cramping is one of 3 deficiencies -- calcium, magnesium, or potassium. I know that I have felt better supplementing or eating foods high in these minerals. > Underwire bra -- that had not occurred to me yet, either! That's a hard > one to leave behind! The next time I buy glasses, I already know they > have to be plastic not metal (which they are now). Some have found that the plastic eyeglasses still have enough metal in them to cause problems (there is usually a metal wire embedded in the plastic, plus the hinges). I find that contact lenses or going without glasses are the best options when on the computer or near intense sources of EMF. > I have had a pet theory that it is my huge load of heavy metals that > causes my electrical sensitivity. I have just started to do green > smoothies (a very small amount, in my case) -- the chlorophyll in the > greens was binding heavy metals so well, that I had to back down from 4 > cups per day to 1/2 cup per day. My brain was in chaos and pain, from > too much heavy metal mobilization at once. I was wondering if this > out-flux of heavy metals from my body, via the green smoothies, might be > part of why I am so much more sensitive right now. Anyone had any > experience like this? I've seen some claim that the green superfoods (spirulina, chlorella, blue green algae) mostly just "stir up" the heavy metals, and don't help much in getting them out of the body. So you may need to limit your use of these or even discontinue them until your metal load is diminished. Also, anything that mobilizes metals is probably going to make your ES worse short-term. I know that my ES was its absolute worst when I was taking lots of chlorella. Marc |
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Thank you, Marc. Very helpful. I've got to look into ca, mg, k again -- Idelved deep into the topic of minerals/electrolytes a couple years ago, but didn't come to a solid conclusion about how to supplement... (I am too sensitive to "citrate" -- mg citrate, ca citrate, k citrate...)
I have been taking off my glasses whenever I possibly can. Good to know that I should always do that around EMF sources. Dietrich Klinghardt, M.D., famous alternative doctor, says everyone on the planet should be taking 30 or more tablets of chlorella per day, to detox. I had not heard about "stirring up but not eliminating." Do you have any resources to refer me to? How does one detox heavy metals, then? I have noticed a draining and clearing of my brain, when I take these things, though I have to take the smallest dose, to not get too much "stirring up." My doctor says that the way to go is "low and slow." This sounds like another complicated topic! Could you say anything about your own strategy, for detoxing heavy metals? -Sue --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > I get cramping in my legs because my electrolytes are off/depleted. > > Or more specifically, I think leg cramping is one of 3 deficiencies -- > calcium, magnesium, or potassium. I know that I have felt better > supplementing or eating foods high in these minerals. > > > Underwire bra -- that had not occurred to me yet, either! That's a hard > > one to leave behind! The next time I buy glasses, I already know they > > have to be plastic not metal (which they are now). > > Some have found that the plastic eyeglasses still have enough metal in > them to cause problems (there is usually a metal wire embedded in the > plastic, plus the hinges). I find that contact lenses or going without > glasses are the best options when on the computer or near intense sources > of EMF. > > > I have had a pet theory that it is my huge load of heavy metals that > > causes my electrical sensitivity. I have just started to do green > > smoothies (a very small amount, in my case) -- the chlorophyll in the > > greens was binding heavy metals so well, that I had to back down from 4 > > cups per day to 1/2 cup per day. My brain was in chaos and pain, from > > too much heavy metal mobilization at once. I was wondering if this > > out-flux of heavy metals from my body, via the green smoothies, might be > > part of why I am so much more sensitive right now. Anyone had any > > experience like this? > > I've seen some claim that the green superfoods (spirulina, chlorella, > blue green algae) mostly just "stir up" the heavy metals, and don't > help much in getting them out of the body. So you may need to limit > your use of these or even discontinue them until your metal load > is diminished. Also, anything that mobilizes metals is probably > going to make your ES worse short-term. I know that my ES was > its absolute worst when I was taking lots of chlorella. > > Marc > |
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I think I've answered my own question: My current doctor taught me about "the laws of diffusion." When you take something that binds heavy metals, heavy metals will be bound, and carried out of the body. The complicating factor is the "laws of diffusion" -- when you bind heavy metals in the bloodstream, for instance, suddenly the concentration of the blood has changed, and heavy metals diffuse across the membrane, and come out of storage, to reset the equilibrium. Do you understand? Have you heardof this? So, whenever you bind heavy metals, some will diffuse out of storage, to reset the balance across the membrane. So, if you go slow, you will remove heavy metals from your body, but you will also pull heavy metals out of storage (this is the "stirring up" part). But, if you go slow enough, the diffusion effect should not be too harmful. "Low and slow." There's no other way! You have to get them out, and there will be diffusion, as a result! It's very validating, to hear that heavy metal detoxing does make ES worse.That may be a main reason why my ES has gotten so bad the last couple weeks. The green smoothies. But I am doing that at a low dose now, that I can tolerate well. (I had started too high, with resultant brain pain/chaos.I backed down quickly.) A lower electrosmog area would probably be much better, for doing this detox work. My dreams have not suggested that I should stop the green smoothies right now, though. I will keep listening. I think my body is in a very dangerous place, with such a high load of toxins. I think detoxing is a high priority. I look forward to any more relatedinsights or similar experiences from the board. -Sue --- In [hidden email], "lolahunt3" <marydelamer@...> wrote: > > Thank you, Marc. Very helpful. I've got to look into ca, mg, k again --I delved deep into the topic of minerals/electrolytes a couple years ago, but didn't come to a solid conclusion about how to supplement... (I am toosensitive to "citrate" -- mg citrate, ca citrate, k citrate...) > > I have been taking off my glasses whenever I possibly can. Good to know that I should always do that around EMF sources. > > Dietrich Klinghardt, M.D., famous alternative doctor, says everyone on the planet should be taking 30 or more tablets of chlorella per day, to detox. I had not heard about "stirring up but not eliminating." Do you have any resources to refer me to? How does one detox heavy metals, then? > > I have noticed a draining and clearing of my brain, when I take these things, though I have to take the smallest dose, to not get too much "stirringup." My doctor says that the way to go is "low and slow." > > This sounds like another complicated topic! Could you say anything aboutyour own strategy, for detoxing heavy metals? > > -Sue > > --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@> wrote: > > > > > I get cramping in my legs because my electrolytes are off/depleted. > > > > Or more specifically, I think leg cramping is one of 3 deficiencies -- > > calcium, magnesium, or potassium. I know that I have felt better > > supplementing or eating foods high in these minerals. > > > > > Underwire bra -- that had not occurred to me yet, either! That's a hard > > > one to leave behind! The next time I buy glasses, I already know they > > > have to be plastic not metal (which they are now). > > > > Some have found that the plastic eyeglasses still have enough metal in > > them to cause problems (there is usually a metal wire embedded in the > > plastic, plus the hinges). I find that contact lenses or going without > > glasses are the best options when on the computer or near intense sources > > of EMF. > > > > > I have had a pet theory that it is my huge load of heavy metals that > > > causes my electrical sensitivity. I have just started to do green > > > smoothies (a very small amount, in my case) -- the chlorophyll in the > > > greens was binding heavy metals so well, that I had to back down from4 > > > cups per day to 1/2 cup per day. My brain was in chaos and pain, from > > > too much heavy metal mobilization at once. I was wondering if this > > > out-flux of heavy metals from my body, via the green smoothies, mightbe > > > part of why I am so much more sensitive right now. Anyone had any > > > experience like this? > > > > I've seen some claim that the green superfoods (spirulina, chlorella, > > blue green algae) mostly just "stir up" the heavy metals, and don't > > help much in getting them out of the body. So you may need to limit > > your use of these or even discontinue them until your metal load > > is diminished. Also, anything that mobilizes metals is probably > > going to make your ES worse short-term. I know that my ES was > > its absolute worst when I was taking lots of chlorella. > > > > Marc > > > |
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Read the book *Amalgam Illnes* by dr. Andrew Hall Cutler, who warns for an overdose of Chorella.
Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: "lolahunt3" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 5:53 PM Subject: [eSens] Re: thank yous > Thank you, Marc. Very helpful. I've got to look into ca, mg, k again -- I delved deep into the topic of minerals/electrolytes a couple years ago, but didn't come to a solid conclusion about how to supplement... (I am too sensitive to "citrate" -- mg citrate, ca citrate, k citrate...) > > I have been taking off my glasses whenever I possibly can. Good to know that I should always do that around EMF sources. > > Dietrich Klinghardt, M.D., famous alternative doctor, says everyone on the planet should be taking 30 or more tablets of chlorella per day, to detox. I had not heard about "stirring up but not eliminating." Do you have any resources to refer me to? How does one detox heavy metals, then? > > I have noticed a draining and clearing of my brain, when I take these things, though I have to take the smallest dose, to not get too much "stirring up." My doctor says that the way to go is "low and slow." > > This sounds like another complicated topic! Could you say anything about your own strategy, for detoxing heavy metals? > > -Sue > > --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: >> >> > I get cramping in my legs because my electrolytes are off/depleted. >> >> Or more specifically, I think leg cramping is one of 3 deficiencies -- >> calcium, magnesium, or potassium. I know that I have felt better >> supplementing or eating foods high in these minerals. >> >> > Underwire bra -- that had not occurred to me yet, either! That's a hard >> > one to leave behind! The next time I buy glasses, I already know they >> > have to be plastic not metal (which they are now). >> >> Some have found that the plastic eyeglasses still have enough metal in >> them to cause problems (there is usually a metal wire embedded in the >> plastic, plus the hinges). I find that contact lenses or going without >> glasses are the best options when on the computer or near intense sources >> of EMF. >> >> > I have had a pet theory that it is my huge load of heavy metals that >> > causes my electrical sensitivity. I have just started to do green >> > smoothies (a very small amount, in my case) -- the chlorophyll in the >> > greens was binding heavy metals so well, that I had to back down from 4 >> > cups per day to 1/2 cup per day. My brain was in chaos and pain, from >> > too much heavy metal mobilization at once. I was wondering if this >> > out-flux of heavy metals from my body, via the green smoothies, might be >> > part of why I am so much more sensitive right now. Anyone had any >> > experience like this? >> >> I've seen some claim that the green superfoods (spirulina, chlorella, >> blue green algae) mostly just "stir up" the heavy metals, and don't >> help much in getting them out of the body. So you may need to limit >> your use of these or even discontinue them until your metal load >> is diminished. Also, anything that mobilizes metals is probably >> going to make your ES worse short-term. I know that my ES was >> its absolute worst when I was taking lots of chlorella. >> >> Marc >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> The complicating factor is the "laws of diffusion" -- when you bind heavy
> metals in the bloodstream, for instance, suddenly the concentration of > the blood has changed, and heavy metals diffuse across the membrane, and > come out of storage Yes, I have certainly heard that, but you must also take into account that many things that bind onto metals only do so temporarily, and eventually they will "drop" those metals. And if those binders are still in your body when that happens, then they really haven't helped you. There are supposedly some substances that "never let go" of metals -- zeolite, OSR#1, etc. But these have their own side effects that I'm not willing to put up with. Marc |
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> Read the book *Amalgam Illnes* by dr. Andrew Hall Cutler, who warns
> for an overdose of Chorella. Actually, Cutler not only warns of overdose of chlorella, but tells people to not take chlorella at all, because it doesn't get mercury out of the body. These days, Cutler mostly tells people to have their mercury fillings removed, and then take Alpha Lipoic Acid every 3 hours for 3-day rounds every week or two. I've been trying this for the past year, and I'd say that it's still too soon to tell if this is really going to help. I'll have to give it another 2 years, probably... :-/ Marc |
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There are opinions that conflict with Cutlers. I'm speaking of the opinions of Dietrich Klinghardt, M.D., and Eric Gordon,M.D., who have worked with highly sensitive people with chronic illness for the past several decades. They are both on the cutting edge of alternative medical treatments for detoxing and killing chronic infections, and theyboth work with severely sensitive people like myself. They both recommendchlorella, and they both think it is an effective binder. I may be more inclined to think it is the "laws of diffusion" that makes detoxing so difficult. Zeolite -- I had to go down to 1/27 a capsule of that, before I could tolerate the laws of diffusion effect... Well, there are conflicting ideas out there. I remain open to persuasive arguments and people's experiences. I am hesitant to dismiss my own doctors, who I searched for a long time for, who are so enthusiastic and learning, learning, learning, all the time, about the frontiers of medicine... -Sue --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > Read the book *Amalgam Illnes* by dr. Andrew Hall Cutler, who warns > > for an overdose of Chorella. > > Actually, Cutler not only warns of overdose of chlorella, but tells > people to not take chlorella at all, because it doesn't get mercury out > of the body. > > These days, Cutler mostly tells people to have their mercury fillings > removed, and then take Alpha Lipoic Acid every 3 hours for 3-day rounds > every week or two. I've been trying this for the past year, and I'd say > that it's still too soon to tell if this is really going to help. I'll > have to give it another 2 years, probably... :-/ > > Marc > |
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> Dietrich Klinghardt, M.D., famous alternative doctor, says everyone on
> the planet should be taking 30 or more tablets of chlorella per day, to > detox. I had not heard about "stirring up but not eliminating." Do you > have any resources to refer me to? How does one detox heavy metals, > then? Klinghardt is rather a dangerous -- he's probably damaged as many people as he's helped. And most of the chlorella on the market is high in heavy metals to start with, so that alone makes people worse. > Could you say anything about > your own strategy, for detoxing heavy metals? Well, I have to limit myself to whatever I can stand taking, in whatever amount I can stand taking. For the first several years I used NDF and Microhydrin, and I did get quite a bit better during that time, but was frustrated that I was not cured after 3 years. Then I took a break for several years (mistake) but just went downhill. Then I tried an ionic detox footbath (big mistake) which set me back a few years in my recovery. Then I went back onto NDF, and for almost the past year I have also been trying the Cutler promoted methods of taking ALA every 3 hours. I have tried many other things, but usually stop taking them pretty quickly when I see what the side effects are. And I have seen that others have gotten their metals under control using a variety of things -- OSR#1, HMD (Heavy Metal Detox), liquid zeolite products (Natural Cellular Defense or ACZ Nano), PCA-Rx, etc. You just have to try what you can afford and see if you can tolerate the side effects, and then see if your health improves over time (paying close attention to dosage, adjusting it to whatever you can tolerate) Marc |
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> There are opinions that conflict with Cutlers.
> I'm speaking of the opinions of Dietrich Klinghardt, M.D., and Eric > Gordon, M.D., who have worked with highly sensitive people with chronic > illness for the past several decades. Yes, I've been to Klinghardt's office, and have no plans on going back. My current doctor goes to every Klinghardt lecture, and frankly I think she has become less effective since adopting his methods. She also mentioned that one of her new patients had been seeing Dr. Klinghardt for the past 2 years, and after spending $20,000 on office visits with Klinghardt she had made no progress whatsoever. But I'm aware that every so-called "expert" disagrees with every other expert. It doesn't matter to me -- I've tried all of their recommendations, and just stick to what I have found to work best for me (and none of it works very well). Marc |
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Yes, that has been my strategy too, finding what I can tolerate and which dosage. I disagree about Dietrich Klinghardt. I hope the ALA works for you. -Sue --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > Dietrich Klinghardt, M.D., famous alternative doctor, says everyone on > > the planet should be taking 30 or more tablets of chlorella per day, to > > detox. I had not heard about "stirring up but not eliminating." Do you > > have any resources to refer me to? How does one detox heavy metals, > > then? > > Klinghardt is rather a dangerous -- he's probably damaged as > many people as he's helped. And most of the chlorella on the > market is high in heavy metals to start with, so that alone > makes people worse. > > > Could you say anything about > > your own strategy, for detoxing heavy metals? > > Well, I have to limit myself to whatever I can stand taking, in whatever > amount I can stand taking. For the first several years I used NDF > and Microhydrin, and I did get quite a bit better during that time, > but was frustrated that I was not cured after 3 years. Then I took > a break for several years (mistake) but just went downhill. Then > I tried an ionic detox footbath (big mistake) which set me back a > few years in my recovery. Then I went back onto NDF, and for almost > the past year I have also been trying the Cutler promoted methods of > taking ALA every 3 hours. > > I have tried many other things, but usually stop taking them pretty > quickly when I see what the side effects are. > > And I have seen that others have gotten their metals under control > using a variety of things -- OSR#1, HMD (Heavy Metal Detox), liquid > zeolite products (Natural Cellular Defense or ACZ Nano), PCA-Rx, etc. > You just have to try what you can afford and see if you can tolerate > the side effects, and then see if your health improves over > time (paying close attention to dosage, adjusting it to whatever > you can tolerate) > > Marc > |
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> Thank you, Marc. Very helpful. I've got to look into ca, mg, k again --
> I delved deep into the topic of minerals/electrolytes a couple years ago, > but didn't come to a solid conclusion about how to supplement... (I am > too sensitive to "citrate" -- mg citrate, ca citrate, k citrate...) I like the supplement "Natural Calm" as a source of magnesium, but that probably won't help you since it is magnesium citrate. You might want to try either the "Lactate" or the "Gylcinate" forms and see if either of these work -- they are supposed to be pretty absorbable (as opposed to "Carbonate", which is supposed to be the worst in this regard) Marc |
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I am starting the process of getting my mercury fillings taken out and the holistic dentist who is going to do it wants me to take a charcoal tablet and chlorella before she starts to work on my teeth - I'm ok taking the charcoal but am less sure about the chlorella - i had always thought it was good for heavy metals - can you tell me where you came across the info that it"stirs up" the metals as opposed to helping get them out of your body? Thanks Steph --- On Sun, 13/6/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] thank yous To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, 13 June, 2010, 15:23 > I get cramping in my legs because my electrolytes are off/depleted. Or more specifically, I think leg cramping is one of 3 deficiencies -- calcium, magnesium, or potassium. I know that I have felt better supplementing or eating foods high in these minerals. > Underwire bra -- that had not occurred to me yet, either! That's a hard > one to leave behind! The next time I buy glasses, I already know they > have to be plastic not metal (which they are now). Some have found that the plastic eyeglasses still have enough metal in them to cause problems (there is usually a metal wire embedded in the plastic, plus the hinges). I find that contact lenses or going without glasses are the best options when on the computer or near intense sources of EMF. > I have had a pet theory that it is my huge load of heavy metals that > causes my electrical sensitivity. I have just started to do green > smoothies (a very small amount, in my case) -- the chlorophyll in the > greens was binding heavy metals so well, that I had to back down from 4 > cups per day to 1/2 cup per day. My brain was in chaos and pain, from > too much heavy metal mobilization at once. I was wondering if this > out-flux of heavy metals from my body, via the green smoothies, might be > part of why I am so much more sensitive right now. Anyone had any > experience like this? I've seen some claim that the green superfoods (spirulina, chlorella, blue green algae) mostly just "stir up" the heavy metals, and don't help much in getting them out of the body. So you may need to limit your use of these or even discontinue them until your metal load is diminished. Also, anything that mobilizes metals is probably going to make your ES worse short-term. I know that my ES was its absolute worst when I was taking lots of chlorella. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> I am starting the process of getting my mercury fillings taken out and
> the holistic dentist who is going to do it wants me to take a charcoal > tablet and chlorella before she starts to work on my teeth - I'm ok > taking the charcoal but am less sure about the chlorella - i had always > thought it was good for heavy metals - can you tell me where you came > across the info that it "stirs up" the metals as opposed to helping get > them out of your body? That's the popular opinion on the "adult-metal-chelation" yahoo group, however I should note that these folks are very closed-minded, and even if presented with the perfect metal chelation method, they would reject it for years. :-/ Now, that said, on another metals group I was subscribed to (a more open-minded, but now essentially inactive group), virtually EVERYONE who tried chlorella had to stop because of bad reactions. I know from my own personal experience that I can handle maybe 1/4 of a 200mg (tiny) tablet without problems, but there would be no way that I could take 30 tablets in a day, not even for one day, without problems. I have had better luck with a chlorella/cilantro blend called "NDF", but again, the amounts I can take of this on a daily basis is very small. You might be best off by just taking charcoal, but you can always give it a try -- occasionally there are people here who report a good reaction to chlorella. Note that having tried several brands of chlorella, I'd say that in terms of the tablets/capsules, I think "Prime Chlorella" may be the least contaminated with heavy metals: http://www.prime-chlorella.com/ One can gauge this themselves by seeing how much chlorella gives them head pressure / brain fog, and if they steadily get worse when taking chlorella. Marc |
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As for chlorella, I think it depends on how sick you are. I could not tolerate one tablet of chlorella, like Marc was saying. I guessed that I wouldbe able to tolerate 1/8 of a tablet, but it seemed too hard to cut. Going"low and slow" -- that is the method my doctor recommends. The higher your body toxin burden, the lower and slower you have to go. Charcoal -- thatdoes not bind as well or as much or something -- I can tolerate that in full capsules... But I don't take it -- it seems that it is less specific about binding? -- not sure why I had chosen not to take it...
Green smoothies -- they detox heavy metals, too, in a softer less harsh waythan the specific binders, probably because they are a whole food with lots of synergistic "helper" ingredients... -Sue --- In [hidden email], Stephanie Smith <reader41@...> wrote: > > Marc > Â > I am starting the process of getting my mercury fillings taken out and the holistic dentist who is going to do it wants me to take a charcoal tabletand chlorella before she starts to work on my teeth - I'm ok taking the charcoal but am less sure about the chlorella - i had always thought it was good for heavy metals - can you tell me where you came across the info that it "stirs up" the metals as opposed to helping get them out of your body? > Â > Thanks > Â > Steph > > --- On Sun, 13/6/10, Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote: > > > From: Marc Martin <marc@...> > Subject: Re: [eSens] thank yous > To: [hidden email] > Date: Sunday, 13 June, 2010, 15:23 > > > Â > > > > > I get cramping in my legs because my electrolytes are off/depleted. > > Or more specifically, I think leg cramping is one of 3 deficiencies -- > calcium, magnesium, or potassium. I know that I have felt better > supplementing or eating foods high in these minerals. > > > Underwire bra -- that had not occurred to me yet, either! That's a hard > > one to leave behind! The next time I buy glasses, I already know they > > have to be plastic not metal (which they are now). > > Some have found that the plastic eyeglasses still have enough metal in > them to cause problems (there is usually a metal wire embedded in the > plastic, plus the hinges). I find that contact lenses or going without > glasses are the best options when on the computer or near intense sources > of EMF. > > > I have had a pet theory that it is my huge load of heavy metals that > > causes my electrical sensitivity. I have just started to do green > > smoothies (a very small amount, in my case) -- the chlorophyll in the > > greens was binding heavy metals so well, that I had to back down from 4 > > cups per day to 1/2 cup per day. My brain was in chaos and pain, from > > too much heavy metal mobilization at once. I was wondering if this > > out-flux of heavy metals from my body, via the green smoothies, might be > > part of why I am so much more sensitive right now. Anyone had any > > experience like this? > > I've seen some claim that the green superfoods (spirulina, chlorella, > blue green algae) mostly just "stir up" the heavy metals, and don't > help much in getting them out of the body. So you may need to limit > your use of these or even discontinue them until your metal load > is diminished. Also, anything that mobilizes metals is probably > going to make your ES worse short-term. I know that my ES was > its absolute worst when I was taking lots of chlorella. > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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> As for chlorella, I think it depends on how sick you are. I could not
> tolerate one tablet of chlorella, like Marc was saying. I guessed that I > would be able to tolerate 1/8 of a tablet, but it seemed too hard to cut. That is one reason I like NDF -(Natural Detox Factors) - it is a liquid, and taking one drop of NDF is easier than cutting up a chlorella tablet. Marc |
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> Charcoal -- that does not bind as well or as much or something -- I
> can tolerate that in full capsules... But I don't take it -- it seems > that it is less specific about binding? -- not sure why I had chosen > not to take it... Some people are concerned that charcoal may bind and remove minerals that are good for you (calcium, etc.), so some people use caution or don't take charcoal at all. Marc |
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--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > Charcoal -- that does not bind as well or as much or something -- I > > can tolerate that in full capsules... But I don't take it -- it seems > > that it is less specific about binding? -- not sure why I had chosen > > not to take it... > > Some people are concerned that charcoal may bind and remove minerals > that are good for you (calcium, etc.), so some people use caution or > don't take charcoal at all. > > Marc > |
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I consistantly take charcoal & clay alternating them. I make sure I replacethe minerals/vitamins that may be lost. My doc does not think it is a problem.
Loni --- On Mon, 6/14/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] charcoal To: [hidden email] Date: Monday, June 14, 2010, 9:21 AM > Charcoal -- that does not bind as well or as much or something -- I > can tolerate that in full capsules... But I don't take it -- it seems > that it is less specific about binding? -- not sure why I had chosen > not to take it... Some people are concerned that charcoal may bind and remove minerals that are good for you (calcium, etc.), so some people use caution or don't take charcoal at all. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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My electrolytes are so depleted, and my body's ability to absorb nutrients compromised, so it hasn't seemed right to me, to take the charcoal... -Sue
--- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote: > > I consistantly take charcoal & clay alternating them. I make sure I replace the minerals/vitamins that may be lost. My doc does not think it is a problem. > Â > Loni > > --- On Mon, 6/14/10, Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote: > > > From: Marc Martin <marc@...> > Subject: Re: [eSens] charcoal > To: [hidden email] > Date: Monday, June 14, 2010, 9:21 AM > > > Â > > > > > Charcoal -- that does not bind as well or as much or something -- I > > can tolerate that in full capsules... But I don't take it -- it seems > > that it is less specific about binding? -- not sure why I had chosen > > not to take it... > > Some people are concerned that charcoal may bind and remove minerals > that are good for you (calcium, etc.), so some people use caution or > don't take charcoal at all. > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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