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having suffered from es for over 15 years mainly mobiles, microwaves, masts, wi-fi, and now computer monitors, I finally started to take action.

throughout my years of suffering I do have a good understanding of es but never tried to take any steps to try to eleviate my problems apart from avoidance, this seemed futile as I work in a high tech college full of gadgetry, wi fi, tablets and mobiles.

without going into too much detail heres what I have done so far and results, for any more details just drop me a line.

so as I said above avoidance wasn't working so in august I started the parasite cleanse which did seem to make a difference I then moved house and didn't carry on the maintenance programme and symptoms returned, I then had some fillings removed as I could see a discouloration on my cheek next to the filling and my cheek reacted to certain foods my ultimate plan was to detox from heavy metals like mercury etc my symptoms persisted but now a month ago have started a new parasite cleanse and carry on the maintenance programme this seems to be working along with other things I will mention, to put it this way I have been on this laptop for over three hours when usually I can't stay on it for more than 5 minutes, im not fre from es but its a start, I haven't felt others phones zapping me over the past 2-3 weeks and this normally was a daily occourance, so this is what I have done.

I always felt more sensitive when i had the cold so its definetly imune system based
so far
parasite cleanse and maintenance programme
1000-2000mg of absorbic acid daily (vitamin c)
half a cap of liquid trace minerals daily
4 chlorella tablets daily

next

kidney cleanse
liver cleanse and then flushes
followed by a detox diet
double the chlorella before flushing

I also stopped using monitors at work as this did seem to make me more sensitive i now use a alap top or over head projector.

good resources...
eliminating toxic overload safely by ian michael
hulda clark cleanses and website

charles

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Sure, inventing the wheel again.
But you could do much more.

Marc Martin

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Well he's working on parasites and metals, which I think has worked for many... seems like a good start to me...

Marc

Patricia

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thanks, Chris, for sharing this.

i too am doing a colon cleanse.

i have something called "expel all" that works really well.

i take 1/4 tsp 3x/day in water with a bit of cloves.

i used to know a man named Robert Gray who wrote

a book called The Colon Health Handbook.

He was a theoretical physicist or mathematician and he

was totally into healing the colon.

so i'm also doing psyllium husk in pineapple juice each

time i take the expel all.

I used this in the past and had amazing results with it.

I am also making lipoidal vitamin C... apparently we

only absorb about 18% of the vitamin C we ingest unless

it is wrapped in fat. my recipe is acerola and sunflower

seed lecithin. i think i'll up my chlorella... thanks for that

inspiration.

wishing you the BEST of health!

love, patricia

On Nov 28, 2014, at 4:58 AM, chris m [via ES] wrote:

having suffered from es for over 15 years mainly mobiles, microwaves, masts, wi-fi, and now computer monitors, I finally started to take action.

throughout my years of suffering I do have a good understanding of es but never tried to take any steps to try to eleviate my problems apart from avoidance, this seemed futile as I work in a high tech college full of gadgetry, wi fi, tablets and mobiles.

without going into too much detail heres what I have done so far and results, for any more details just drop me a line.

so as I said above avoidance wasn't working so in august I started the parasite cleanse which did seem to make a difference I then moved house and didn't carry on the maintenance programme and symptoms returned, I then had some fillings removed as I could see a discouloration on my cheek next to the filling and my cheek reacted to certain foods my ultimate plan was to detox from heavy metals like mercury etc my symptoms persisted but now a month ago have started a new parasite cleanse and carry on the maintenance programme this seems to be working along with other things I will mention, to put it this way I have been on this laptop for over three hours when usually I can't stay on it for more than 5 minutes, im not fre from es but its a start, I haven't felt others phones zapping me over the past 2-3 weeks and this normally was a daily occourance, so this is what I have done.

I always felt more sensitive when i had the cold so its definetly imune system based
so far
parasite cleanse and maintenance programme
1000-2000mg of absorbic acid daily (vitamin c)
half a cap of liquid trace minerals daily
4 chlorella tablets daily

next

kidney cleanse
liver cleanse and then flushes
followed by a detox diet
double the chlorella before flushing

I also stopped using monitors at work as this did seem to make me more sensitive i now use a alap top or over head projector.

good resources...
eliminating toxic overload safely by ian michael
hulda clark cleanses and website

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Hawk

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Hi.

I read in a book(at my health food store) that vitamin c (ascorbic acid) actually detoxes heavy metals.
It is common knowledge that vitamin c i s an immune booster. Helps cell integrity.
This was a doctor who did test on people. cant remember what type of disease they were struggling with. Anyway, he found out that when he gave them 4 gram of ascorbic acid daily they had more heavy metals in the urine. He did not lower the dose. After a couple of months the heavy metals in the urine dropped to a lower level. interesting!
Have not tried to boost my energy with ascorbic acid, yet. In norway where i live we are under codex alimentarius. and the vitamin supplement restrictions are very strict. hard to get what i want.

this guy seems to know what he is talking about . have not seen so many of his videos yet. don't have much internet time. All about ascorbic acid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kIGfZMrIZs

How do you feel the vitamin c has helped you?
what do you feel has been the most importing thing you've done to get better(immunesystem)?
Nice to hear you are improving

Patricia

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thanks for sending that info, hawk.

i too heard about the chelating effect of vitC.

and my cramps have pretty much stopped.

vitC and parasite cleansing - all this is good.

if you live under CodexA - so sorry! -

speaking of micromanaging... at any rate,

that might be why it is a good idea to make

lipo-C... 5x more of the C is absorbed than

just vitC plain. can you get sunflower

seed lecithin?

love, patricia

On Nov 30, 2014, at 4:57 AM, Hawk [via ES] wrote:

I read in a book(at my health food store) that vitamin c (ascorbic acid) actually detoxes heavy metals.
It is common knowledge that vitamin c i s an immune booster. Helps cell integrity.
This was a doctor who did test on people. cant remember what type of disease they were struggling with. Anyway, he found out that when he gave them 4 gram of ascorbic acid daily they had more heavy metals in the urine. He did not lower the dose. After a couple of months the heavy metals in the urine dropped to a lower level. interesting!
Have not tried to boost my energy with ascorbic acid, yet. In norway where i live we are under codex alimentarius. and the vitamin supplement restrictions are very strict. hard to get what i want.

chris m

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thanks to all for replies, and charles, as marc said its only the start but it definetly seems the right way forward though, and I do know I can do so much more and will, I have only lived with this condition for over 15 years, but one step at a time, but going from actually hearing the vibration from masts and wifi, blinding migranes, rashes, mood swings, and not being able to using computers or lap tops to the effects of this condition lessening of well more than 70% i think it deserved a post

chris m

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ps and some people may be new to this so called wheel

charles

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Well after 16 years we developed this 30 points plan, with the ClaeSmog, in order to repair the damaged immune system.
All points are painfully tested by *try and error*, and the resulkts are quite unique.
However, in this forum there is not much interest.

I also wrote about the help of a *Brains Machine*, which I shielded in a special way (against longitudinal waves), so that electrosensitives did not *feel* anything.
I treated some electrosensitives, who had remarkable results in recovering.
10 year pains were gone, in stead of 10 minutes now 8 hours behind the computer, daily, etc.

But also no interest.
People like going to start the long walk, we have had 16 years ago.
Trying to invent the wheel again.

There is also no interest in the chapter of longitudinal waves, which are the culprit of electrosensitivity.
I have studies electrosensitivity for 16 years, and found the reasons why somke persons got it, and many other did not. And what to do about it. And which frequencies do the most harm, even at very low levels.

What did seem impossible 7 years ago, is now reality. We live in a town, in an appartment, in the midst of mobile phone masts, amidst DECT phones, etc., but no problems. And not on the streets, and in teh supermarkets with Wifi and smartphones.

I am becoming a bid tired.

Hawk

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Hi charles.
I am curious about all the knowledge you got about esens. I read you page about lontudinal wave and found it interesting. had to use google.translate though. I will definetaly order this netting from germany and try it out.

One of my main annoyances with groups like this,, including the norwegian esens organisation , is the focus on how bad things are, politics and selling products. Not one word about curing it in the magazines they send out to its members. The main thing for me was to realize that the problem is in my body. Ive had this all my life. 30 years. and did not even know this was curable. thought it was just how I was put together.. this summer i've started my own healing plan.

I am sorry you feel people dont listen, and I understand why. but there has been drama going on too. ego confrontations that resultet in you taking down the 30 point plan and so on,
There is nothing I want more from this group than sharing experience, knowledge, results,... helping each other out.

I've been living in my cabin where there is strong longtudinal waves. You said that longtudinal waves are more biological harmful.how ? I find them to be intense. but in a different way then microwaves. different symptomes. now the batteries are only 60% charged and it dont feel so intense.

You also said once that it is a fact that all esens people do have calsium defiency. Will this mean that this is an important part of the esens "mystery".. or put different. How important is calsium when it comes to degree of sensitivity?

Anywhere to find Reiner Gebben Lebens in english ? looks really interesting.

charles

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Calcium is very important.
Says also Andrew Goldsworthy and Panagopoulos.

See the long video by prof. Pall:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Up8bqiJN2k

And yes, all groups are lamenting how bad it is, and how much they want to protest.
But protesting does not help.
And most refuse to undertake measures to *heal* their body; shielding alone is NOT enough.

The point is, that we nee a study, done by doctors, not engineers, who determine how harmful the influence of elektrosmog is.
I find cancer ridiculous, because most studies are done under exposures we do not find in practise.

Serious I find the daily tortures of the well known symptoms the electrosensitives do have to suffer.
Doctors can start with determining how bad is sleeplessness for health; how many hours a day is bad.
How bad is chronical headache, pain in arms and legs, higher bloodpressure, heart rhytm disorders, stomach and intestines disorders, to name a few.
This has never been researched, and nobody is interested to take it up.
But as long as this has not been established, we do not have arguments to protest.

The WHO claims: *Below the guidelines, no adverse health effects!*
And they are right. Because it is never studied.

Many claim that the *Blood clotting* effect (or Geldrollenbildung) due to elektrosmog is an argument, but it is not.
See: http://www.hetbitje.nl/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=668