shielding,reflecting...

I'd appreciate some information about shielding wireless radiation.
Seems terribly tricky unless you know for sure you have just one signal to
deal with, as in the case of multiple signals from different directions, one side
of your shielding will reflect away a signal but the other side will bounce a
signal back into your living space.
We have a new signal coming into our home from somewhere, and our
attempt to shield the wall toward the signal resulted in horrible sleeplessness for
both me and my husband, who is famous for falling asleep within minutes of
hitting the pillow. We deduce that our tv antenna is picking up the signal and
broadcasting it into the house from above. The wall that's pretty much under
the antenna is "hot" on both sides.
What is strange is that there are little areas, say a foot square, where
there is signal, but there is no direction (up, down, sideways....) from
these areas, that can be followed where the signal persists. In other words, no
signal beam leading from a source to that area. Just the areas there in
certain spots in a room, like invisible balloons of frequency hanging in space.
I'm guessing this is where two minor signals happen to team up after
bouncing around off of whatever, but have no way to know.
Please do not suggest I buy a pricey RF/MW meter, as such is just not in
the budget. My working tool for now is the Electrosmog Detector. This
picks up the presence of these areas just fine.
Any helpful tips?

Thanks,
Shivani



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I'd appreciate some information about shielding wireless radiation.
Seems terribly tricky unless you know for sure you have just one signal to
deal with, as in the case of multiple signals from different directions, one side
of your shielding will reflect away a signal but the other side will bounce a
signal back into your living space.
We have a new signal coming into our home from somewhere, and our
attempt to shield the wall toward the signal resulted in horrible sleeplessness for
both me and my husband, who is famous for falling asleep within minutes of
hitting the pillow. We deduce that our tv antenna is picking up the signal and
broadcasting it into the house from above. The wall that's pretty much under
the antenna is "hot" on both sides.
What is strange is that there are little areas, say a foot square, where
there is signal, but there is no direction (up, down, sideways....) from
these areas, that can be followed where the signal persists. In other words, no
signal beam leading from a source to that area. Just the areas there in
certain spots in a room, like invisible balloons of frequency hanging in space.
I'm guessing this is where two minor signals happen to team up after
bouncing around off of whatever, but have no way to know.
Please do not suggest I buy a pricey RF/MW meter, as such is just not in
the budget. My working tool for now is the Electrosmog Detector. This
picks up the presence of these areas just fine.
Any helpful tips?

Thanks,
Shivani



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HI Shivani,

Yes, shielding RF can be tricky, especially since there is rarely one signal.

Your analysis of the hot spots hanging in the air, also known as nodes, is
correct. There will be areas where signals interact to produce a hot spot.

The simplest (to understand) solution involves using a shield which is a
complete enclosure. And I do mean complete. Leakage points, even the
slightest crease, will admit radiation. We once worked on an industrial
application for a shielded room using 80 dB fabric, and taped all the
seams with 2 inch shielding tape. We expected 80 dB attenuation, but only
got about 20. We rechecked every seam and found one place where if we
compressed the tape we achieved 80 dB. Very demanding.

So in short, use a good shielding material, and realistically expect about
20 dB (99%) reduction, which is not bad. And do what you can to reduce
leakage.

As far as finding the direction of the source, you will have to use a
meter with a directional antenna such as High Frequency Meter
http://www.lessemf.com/rf.html#481 or EM EYE
http://www.lessemf.com/rf.html#161. Sorry, no shortcuts here.

Emil
Less EMF Inc.


Emil DeToffol
Less EMF Inc.
tel: +1-518-432-1550
fax: +1-309-422-4355

This is very usefull information. I used to have an ungrounded
antennae right next to the outside wall of my house. When an
electrical storm would go past the house would fill with
electricity. Who knows what all else that antennae was bringing into
the inside of my metal house (mobile home) where it could bounce
around for awhile like a microwave oven? I moved the antennae to
another location, put the pole six feet into the ground plus put on
additional grounding. Yet, my house is not completely covered with
the velostat and the roof underneath the antennae is only partly
covered. I will have to see to it that I put more velostat up in
the areas around my T.V. Antennae. I will also have to get one of
those electrosmog detectors you have.  







--- In [hidden email], SArjuna@a... wrote:
>
> We deduce that our tv antenna is picking up the signal and
> broadcasting it into the house from above. The wall that's pretty
much under

Good question. I have struggled with this for a few years. I have
painted my room with copper paint and grounded it as well as cover the
windows with silver mesh (grounded) and have a little relief. The WiFi
still gets into the room. I understand that in order to significantly
reduce the radiation a total and complete seal of the room must be done
(not even a crack).
So whether you choose fabrics like the silver mesh, or silver cloth
(which doesn't block much) or copper (medium shielding) or velostat or
whatever, it has to be a pretty extensive cover of all the walls and
windows and totally grounded. And still then stay away from the walls
because the electric currents are running through it to ground. I sleep
with my bed a couple of feet away from the walls.
It is interesting... my body voltage meter picks up electric fields
from the walls and then when I touch it, it goes to 0.0 because it is
grounded. I guess what I am standing on is not grounded and I am
radiating with the wall and then when I touch it the electricity from
my body has somewhere to go in the wall.
I don't know.
My message is try to block the direct stuff outside the house so you
don't have to deal with it in the house and then in the house be sure
the electric fields are grounded and you get a good seal.
Good luck and let me know what works for you.
Andrew

On Jan 14, 2006, at 5:18 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

Hi,

I bought a meter recently, as I've already told. So, little story :
I use a piece of shielding curtain hanged on the window. It is very
funny. On one spot behing the shielding it can read 20 more uW than
on another spot 30 cm apart also behind the shielding curtain.

Just to add my 2 cents to this discussion.

jean.





--- In [hidden email], SArjuna@a... wrote:
>
> I'd appreciate some information about shielding wireless
radiation.    
> Seems terribly tricky unless you know for sure you have just one
signal to
> deal with, as in the case of multiple signals from different
directions, one side
> of your shielding will reflect away a signal but the other side
will bounce a
> signal back into your living space.
> We have a new signal coming into our home from somewhere, and
our
> attempt to shield the wall toward the signal resulted in horrible
sleeplessness for
> both me and my husband, who is famous for falling asleep within
minutes of
> hitting the pillow. We deduce that our tv antenna is picking up
the signal and
> broadcasting it into the house from above. The wall that's pretty
much under
> the antenna is "hot" on both sides.
> What is strange is that there are little areas, say a foot
square, where
> there is signal, but there is no direction (up, down, sideways....)
from
> these areas, that can be followed where the signal persists. In
other words, no
> signal beam leading from a source to that area. Just the areas
there in
> certain spots in a room, like invisible balloons of frequency
hanging in space.
> I'm guessing this is where two minor signals happen to team up
after
> bouncing around off of whatever, but have no way to know.  
> Please do not suggest I buy a pricey RF/MW meter, as such is
just not in
> the budget. My working tool for now is the Electrosmog
Detector. This

That is not uncommon.
One has to consider measuring techniques.
- How fas was your meter away from the curtain? If you are too close, you
may pick-up some electrical fields from the curtain.
- Was the angle at which you measured the same?
- Didn't you catch a reflection from somewhere else?
- Was the meter on the second spot perhaps in a *hotspot* ?

Measuring is not holding a meter and pressing a button.
One has to take in consideration all kind of possible influences, like
reflections.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
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