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One thing I have found is that when I do chelation I get a redistribution of the mercury into my prostate area as well as skin eruptions mostly in my scalp area which I attributed to fungus and yeast being liberated from the metal to which they were bound. The thing that works for me is oil of cilantro. I rub in on my inner thighs. I think this stuff cleans the heavy metals from the blood stream while in the process of being redistributed. It seems to be a never ending process as the body continues to dump more mercury and I continually have to apply the oil of cilantro every so often. Mercury circulating in the blood stream is what I think causes the panic attacks. The only problem with the oil of cilantro is that it has such a powerful smell that can be misunderstood.

----- Original Message -----
From: Marc Martin
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 9:48 AM
Subject: [eSens] ionic footbaths -> panic attacks / "can't breathe"


Hi all,

Earlier this year I tried doing some ionic footbaths, as I've seen some good
reports about them here and elsewhere. Unfortunately, I was made worse by
these, and stopped them rather quickly. By worse, I mean that my ES is
worse, and my symptoms are now different than they've ever been
before. My primary symptoms around electricity are now panic attacks
combined with a sensation that I "can't breathe" (even though I obviously
can).

So far, I've found several things which help these symptoms -- lecithin,
inositol, charcoal, green superfood powders, B vitamins, thyroid and
adrenal glandulars, increased use of my Quantum Products EMF protection
devices, and kelp/iodine.

I'm just curious though -- I don't see many reports of panic attacks
here as being an ES symptom. My question is -- is this a symptom any
of you have, and have you found anything particularly helpful for it?

Note that I've been to several alternative doctors in the past few months
trying to resolve this problem -- the best we can figure is that the ionic
footbaths did a major redistribution of mercury, which is adversely affecting
my thyroid, adrenals, and nervous system (hypo-thyroid and hypo-adrenal
conditions are known to cause panic attacks)

Marc





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> The thing that works for me is oil of cilantro.

Do you have a specific product (brand name) that you use?

Marc

Is this essential oil of cilantro? That's pretty strong stuff. You
might try adding a few sprigs of raw organic cilantro to salads or
topping veggies with it, or making a tabouleh salad, chewing on a
couple of springs, or making an infusion. To do the last coarse chop a
bunch of fresh organic cilantro. Loosely pack a cup full and place in
a pan. Add a quart of purified water. and bring it to a boil. Filter
it into a glass container, and cover it. Leave it out overnight and
then refrigerate. Drink it over the course of 3 days. You can throw any
remainder on your plants. If cilantro is too strong, parsley is in the
same family and has many of the same benefits.

Yolanda

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I get mine off the internet from "The Essential Oil Company". It has almost doubled in price in the past few years. It's up to 150 or so bucks now for a 16 oz. bottle. I have found some cheaper stuff on the web but it appears to be watered down. It lasts a long time though as you only apply very small amounts. I apply every few days. If your in bad shape you might apply it several days in a row to start off with.


----- Original Message -----
From: Marc Martin
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] ionic footbaths -> panic attacks / "can't breathe"


> The thing that works for me is oil of cilantro.

Do you have a specific product (brand name) that you use?

Marc





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Yes, it is the essential oil of cilantro. I have juiced cilantro and drank it. If it wasn't so much work I would still do it. What I am doing now is just rubbing the oil directly onto the skin. This seems to work just as well as juicing the cilantro. We are talking strong medicine here. I think I have experienced the panic attacks that he is talking about. I hope it isn't necessary to say this, but I am not a doctor and do not give medical advice. This is what works for me. Also, I would recommend taking products for the yeast.


----- Original Message -----
From: Yolanda LaCombe
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] ionic footbaths -> panic attacks / -- Cilantro


Is this essential oil of cilantro? That's pretty strong stuff. You
might try adding a few sprigs of raw organic cilantro to salads or
topping veggies with it, or making a tabouleh salad, chewing on a
couple of springs, or making an infusion. To do the last coarse chop a
bunch of fresh organic cilantro. Loosely pack a cup full and place in
a pan. Add a quart of purified water. and bring it to a boil. Filter
it into a glass container, and cover it. Leave it out overnight and
then refrigerate. Drink it over the course of 3 days. You can throw any
remainder on your plants. If cilantro is too strong, parsley is in the
same family and has many of the same benefits.

Yolanda

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[hidden email] wrote:
> Yes, it is the essential oil of cilantro.

It's interesting, because from all I've read, cilantro is supposed
to mobilize mercury into the bloodstream, not bind it and take it
out. But a lot of stuff I read online doesn't seem to apply to
me, so it's worth a try! :-)

Marc

Yolanda LaCombe wrote:
> If rhese are the BEFE foot baths or similar to it, I have read that
> they are bogus

Yes, I have read some opinions that they are bogus, and other opinions
that they are very helpful. However, I have a third opinion -- potentially
dangerous!! I have since found elsewhere a couple reports of bad reactions
to these, but these reports seem rare...

Marc

Hello Yolanda,

here you are wrong.

Of course, if you use ordinary tapwater, which normally contains a lot of
heavy metals, the water will colorize.

I did a test with distilled water.
I added the salt, just to obtain the right amps, and let it work for 30
minutes.
The water then did have a slight yellowish color.

With the feet into this distilled water, first ther was white foam, then
ornage, green, and brown foam, with black specks.

In the issue of *het bitje* Januari 2006, the dutch or german issue, itn is
demonstrated on page 10, and a wateranalysis from Illinois is on page 11.
First the tapwater was analysed, and then after 9 footbaths.

So, those ionic foot spas do take out a lot of your body.
Don't forget to compensate with a good multivitamin.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Yolanda LaCombe" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 18:18
Subject: Re: [eSens] ionic footbaths -> panic attacks / "can't breathe"


> If rhese are the BEFE foot baths or similar to it, I have read that
> they are bogus -- its not your feet that are throwing off all the crud
> in the water -- its actually the nature of the substance that you put
> in the water. IF this is true (google it and make up your own mind)
> then maybe the product that is put in the water is the culprit.
>
> Yolanda
> On Mar 23, 2008, at 8:48 AM, Marc Martin wrote:
>

Well you know I'm talking perception here. It seems to me that it is the cilantro oil that clear the bloodstream. There are quite a few other things that seem to mobilize it and not completely rid the body of it and I then have to use the oil of cilantro to get rid of the mobilized mercury. I have also read about people using other products to mobilze the mercury and then getting it into the gut where they say chlorella binds to it and removes it from the gut. But my experiences with chlorella have not been good. And the cilantro is supposed to take the mercury out through the urine and doesn't deposit it into the gut where it can be reabsorbed. My body seems to dump mercury into the blood stream without me doing anything on my own. I just use the cilantro oil to mop it up. They say that after you have the mercury in your teeth removed there is a period of time afterwords, maybe 6 months, when the body then begins to dump mercury into the blood stream and that is when people start to get sick after have their amalgams removed. I used to have a mouthfull of mercury fillings and had them all removed several years ago. I'm hoping that eventually my body will stop dumping this stuff but so far it hasn't.


----- Original Message -----
From: Marc Martin
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] ionic footbaths -> panic attacks / -- Cilantro


[hidden email] wrote:
> Yes, it is the essential oil of cilantro.

It's interesting, because from all I've read, cilantro is supposed
to mobilize mercury into the bloodstream, not bind it and take it
out. But a lot of stuff I read online doesn't seem to apply to
me, so it's worth a try! :-)

Marc





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[hidden email]
> But my experiences with chlorella have not been good.

Yes, my experience with chlorella tablets/capsules has
been bad as well. It's supposed to bind to mercury, but
to me it seems to mobilize more than bind. I've read
that the way to make chlorella bind more than it mobilizes
is to take it in LARGE doses, but I figure if I react
badly to small doses, then I'm not going to risk taking
large doses.

The only form of chlorella that I've had a positive
response to is NDF, but this also contains cilantro,
and the particle size is small enough that the mercury
leaves through the urine not the bowels.

Marc

Hi, Marc,

That sounds suspiciously alot like what I get in high magnetic fields. I have asthma w/wo anaphylaxis and I did not think of it being a panic attack. To me it is like an asthma attack, but I do experience a sense of extreme ill being and feel impending doom, like I am going to die. I have had previous experience with anaphylactic shock and that is how it feels when that is coming on. When we leave the area, I feel like there is congestion still left in my chest (as in swelling, maybe--one of the signs of anaphylaxis. But again, I was associating it with these, as this is my experience pool. Maybe it is actually a type of panic attack. I think it is from adrenal crisis, whatever it is.)

What are added to the ionic baths you were using? Anything? If epsom salts where added, it could be that you had a quick imbalance of electrolytes. That has happened with me during the salts baths that I use. I take calcium AEP and pantethine--2 caps each every 20 mins or so until this resolves (for me, I also get bp plummeting and I take my bp to check how this is resolving while supplimenting the cal and pantethine). I do find that the cal AEP and pantethine also help me after one of my "attacks" out riding around. Can't explain why, but I get the same group of symptoms, so I tried it. Oh, actually I do know MAYBE why it helps. If emfs cause detoxing at all or massive cell death--sending dead cells +/or toxins into the lymphatic system--this could cause lymphatic overload. THe lymphatic system needs calcium, pantethine, and coQ10 to carry on. So do the adrenal glands. When the lymphatic system needs it, it can steal it from the adrenals, causing bp
plummeting, breathing difficulty, fatigue and other problems. Both function on these nutrients. So that would explain why it also works at this time. (Also, the baths might cause quicker detoxing too, but there is definitely a need to watch that you don't imbalance electrolytes while using epsom salts baths.) I also used a product called "Electro-blast" to balance my electrolytes for awhile. Electro-blast uses a larger spectrum of nutrients than just the calcium and pantethine. If you have issues with your thyroid, be careful how much soy you consume. (Because of celiac disease, I was eating/drinking alot of soy and had to be put on thyroid extract. After quitting the soy, I returned to normal.)

My 2 cents,
Diane

Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi all,

Earlier this year I tried doing some ionic footbaths, as I've seen some good
reports about them here and elsewhere. Unfortunately, I was made worse by
these, and stopped them rather quickly. By worse, I mean that my ES is
worse, and my symptoms are now different than they've ever been
before. My primary symptoms around electricity are now panic attacks
combined with a sensation that I "can't breathe" (even though I obviously
can).

So far, I've found several things which help these symptoms -- lecithin,
inositol, charcoal, green superfood powders, B vitamins, thyroid and
adrenal glandulars, increased use of my Quantum Products EMF protection
devices, and kelp/iodine.

I'm just curious though -- I don't see many reports of panic attacks
here as being an ES symptom. My question is -- is this a symptom any
of you have, and have you found anything particularly helpful for it?

Note that I've been to several alternative doctors in the past few months
trying to resolve this problem -- the best we can figure is that the ionic
footbaths did a major redistribution of mercury, which is adversely affecting
my thyroid, adrenals, and nervous system (hypo-thyroid and hypo-adrenal
conditions are known to cause panic attacks)

Marc





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> To me it is like an asthma attack, but I do experience a sense
> of extreme ill being and feel impending doom, like I am going to die.

Yes, I've felt that way in the past few months -- more times than I
care to remember... :-(

Originally I thought of my symptoms as merely being one of "can't
breathe" or "not getting enough oxygen", but it was my wife who
suggested that I was having panic attacks (and I can't really
disagree with that).

> What are added to the ionic baths you were using? Anything?

They add some (regular?) salt to improve the conductivity of
the water. And they add the ion generator, of course...

Marc

Hi again, Marc,

Well, the thing these still all have in common is the ability to mobilize and dump toxins into the lymphatic system (the footbath, epsom salts bath, and emfs.) For the emfs, this is theory, we have discussed this in the past and there are 2 camps of thought... they either kill cells or mobilize toxins, either of which causes lymphatic overload. According to my nutritionist, when the lymphatic system is overtaxed, it can rob nutrients from the adrenals, so this makes alot of sense to me that panic attacks and adrenal stress would be the result. I forgot to mention before, but I also have major temperature dysregulation--sweats and chills--from this (besides bp plummeting, breathing difficulty, and feeling of great anxiety and doom). That is another adrenal dysregulation symptom. So I am fairly sure we are both experiencing the same thing, Marc. Do you have a nutritionist? You might be able to get info on the calcium AEP and pantethine I use for this from a
nutritionist. I highly doubt a medical doctor would know about it. He'd probably prescribe you an anxiety drug.

Be well,
Diane

Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> To me it is like an asthma attack, but I do experience a sense
> of extreme ill being and feel impending doom, like I am going to die.

Yes, I've felt that way in the past few months -- more times than I
care to remember... :-(

Originally I thought of my symptoms as merely being one of "can't
breathe" or "not getting enough oxygen", but it was my wife who
suggested that I was having panic attacks (and I can't really
disagree with that).

> What are added to the ionic baths you were using? Anything?

They add some (regular?) salt to improve the conductivity of
the water. And they add the ion generator, of course...

Marc





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> Do you have a nutritionist? You might be able to get info
> on the calcium AEP and pantethine I use for this from a
> nutritionist.

Heh, heh... I've been seeing a nutritionist for years, and
recently started seeing a nutritonally-oriented naturapath
and chiropracter because of all these recent problems.
However, so far nobody has done much to help...

As for obtaining Calcium ACP and Pantethine, all I need
is a Google search and a credit card for this :-) (unless
you have specific brand name information that I'm missing?)

Marc

Mark

I apologise for my late reply to this, Ive been away from the computer for a few weeks just
taking some time out. I also get the panic attacks when near electricity but also with
certain food I eat. Have you considered you may have an allergic reaction to some sort of
food? It is a horrible feeling but maybe some relaxation tapes 'thinkrightnow' programs or
learning to meditate will help. I also tried accupuncture for this and this helped me but
again it needs to be ongoing.

The panic attacks were one of my worst symptoms and I am still struggling on a daily
basis with anxiety.

Also, look at Bach Flower Remedies, long term these work. And maybe tissuesalts. I am
also on the Metabolic Typing program where you do food combining, maybe look into
this.

I would suggest the 'thinkrightnow' program is a good and inexpensive placeto start. You
can run this through the night if your ES allows!

Hope this helps, if you have any questions, let me know.

Alison


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Hi Marc,

No, no special types or brands, but you might want dosage info! ;) I can give that, I just didn't know if you would want to take my word for it.

Diane

Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Do you have a nutritionist? You might be able to get info
> on the calcium AEP and pantethine I use for this from a
> nutritionist.

Heh, heh... I've been seeing a nutritionist for years, and
recently started seeing a nutritonally-oriented naturapath
and chiropracter because of all these recent problems.
However, so far nobody has done much to help...

As for obtaining Calcium ACP and Pantethine, all I need
is a Google search and a credit card for this :-) (unless
you have specific brand name information that I'm missing?)

Marc





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> No, no special types or brands, but you might want dosage info! ;) I
> can give that, I just didn't know if you would want to take my word for
> it.

You've mentioned the dosage you've used in the past, but since everyone
is different, I wouldn't assume that your dosage would be the same as
mine anyway.

Marc

True, you might or might not tolerate the same dose. I had to ease into my dose over time. Took me several months.

Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: > No, no special types or brands, but you might want dosage info! ;) I
> can give that, I just didn't know if you would want to take my word for
> it.

You've mentioned the dosage you've used in the past, but since everyone
is different, I wouldn't assume that your dosage would be the same as
mine anyway.

Marc





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