ringing in ears?

feeling a bit despondent my grand plan for recovery involved coming to
spend some time with my mother in the uk, but i seem to be having
trouble with the house. Every time i go into my bedroom , my ears
start ringing ,I wake up and it feel like my liver is reacting , my
muscles feel tight , i feel pressure in liver area etc. My usual
measures ie my emf eliminator dont seem to help. I am waiting for my
electrosmog meter to arrive so i can start taking definitive concrete
measure ments, and so stop convincing myself that is is all in my
head, but im wondering if wifi from neighbours can create these sort
of of symptoms ? or if i am potentially dealing with something
worse ?. This is the house i grew up in i have never had problems
with it before , but then i havent lived here in over 20 years , and
i have not visited since this hypersensitivity started. All thoughts
and comments appreciated.

Ada

As far as I know it could be anything, even chemical.
But certainly could be microwave (including WiFi or cell tower)
or ELF... try turning out the power in the room or the house--
might help. If it doesn't help it could still be dirty power on the
neutral wire.

Bill

On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 4:08 AM, betty_starbuckle <
[hidden email]> wrote:


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> but im wondering if wifi from neighbours can create these sort
> of of symptoms ?

Yes, I think Wi-Fi from the neighbors can cause problems... probably
also the neighbors wireless telephones.

Does this house you're in have dimmer switches? Compact fluorescent
bulbs? Wireless telephones?

Marc

 none of the above , mum has an old rotary dial phone  and reallynothing has changed much since i was a child- so i really think it could be the neighbours , my only other suspect is the hot water tank/cupboard that is in the corner of my room , and has lots of copper pipes running in andout of it, and possibly a meter+/- pump, but like i say that has been there all my life.- but once i get my emf meter i guess i will know for sure.
 
Ada

unknown

--- On Sun, 19/10/08, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] ringing in ears?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, 19 October, 2008, 4:01 AM






> but im wondering if wifi from neighbours can create these sort
> of of symptoms ?

Yes, I think Wi-Fi from the neighbors can cause problems... probably
also the neighbors wireless telephones.

Does this house you're in have dimmer switches? Compact fluorescent
bulbs? Wireless telephones?

Marc
 













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You may be able to unplug that water heater at night?


On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 11:22 AM, ada iye <[hidden email]>wrote:


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Hi Ada,

I visited my parents in the UK (in the house I grew up in) 2 years
ago. I had just started my journey of discovery re ES at that point.
A few days after I arrived ringing and pounding started in my left
ear and it has never stopped.

I went back this summer with my gauges and discovered that the DECT
phone base located a couple of feet from where I always sit at the
dining table was a constant emitter and that my childhood bedroom was
getting zapped with 1-3 mg from overhead wiring in the back garden.
In the garden I measured up to 14 mg at the patio table. An old
friend of mine told me that when I was a teenager I was convinced
there was a negative ley line in the back garden so I was obviously
picking it up back then.

I had already had a horrible trip from Maui in 3 planes with
fluorescent lights making me feel awful and goodness knows what else.
Couldn't sleep at my parents and ended up getting sick. Was having
palpitations from the DECT phones and my Dad wouldn't believe me.
Eventually he agreed reluctantly to use the land lines when I was
there.

My visit to the UK was pretty hellish as everywhere I stayed people
had constantly-emitting DECT phones and Wi-Fi (except my sister's
who's place was a sanctuary where I went to catch up on sleep and
recover from my cold!) My Mum has been having palpitations and
unexplained internal bleeding and just had a pacemaker put in. I
wouldn't be surprised if the phones play a part in this as the base
emits right into their bedroom as well as the dining room. Been
trying to persuade them to get an Orchid phone.

Sorry, I got off track. Re ringing in the ears: I did notice one time
I was at a dance class and the ringing suddenly got really loud at
which point I noticed I was right next to a wi-fi emitter for the
teacher's microphone.

However, I also think candida is playing a role in the ringing as
well as my neck stiffness.

Just throwing it out there....

Aline


--- In [hidden email], "betty_starbuckle"
<betty_starbuckle@...> wrote:
>
> feeling a bit despondent my grand plan for recovery involved coming
to
> spend some time with my mother in the uk, but i seem to be having
> trouble with the house. Every time i go into my bedroom , my ears
> start ringing ,I wake up and it feel like my liver is reacting , my
> muscles feel tight , i feel pressure in liver area etc. My usual
> measures ie my emf eliminator dont seem to help. I am waiting for
my
> electrosmog meter to arrive so i can start taking definitive
concrete
> measure ments, and so stop convincing myself that is is all in my
> head, but im wondering if wifi from neighbours can create these
sort
> of of symptoms ? or if i am potentially dealing with something
> worse ?. This is the house i grew up in i have never had problems
> with it before , but then i havent lived here in over 20 years ,
and
> i have not visited since this hypersensitivity started. All
thoughts
> and comments appreciated.
>
> Ada
>

 thanks ailine , england seems to be quite full on actually , Im visiting family in the country which is helping , But im concerend about going back to london, I really want to stay with mum, but the house stinks ( energetically). Its a catch twenty two , to improve in energy i need a"safe place" , but every where seems to make me react , so one feels as if one is always hauling ones bones around looking for sanctuary , does anyone else feel like this i wonder.- soem times i feel liek going to some hut in the out back of africa , and taking a break from t he 21st century
 
ada

"Although my Soul shall set in Darkness, I will raise in Perfect Light, I have Loved the Stars to Fondly to be Fearful of the Night."

unknown

--- On Fri, 24/10/08, Aline <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Aline <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: ringing in ears?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, 24 October, 2008, 6:05 AM






Hi Ada,

I visited my parents in the UK (in the house I grew up in) 2 years
ago. I had just started my journey of discovery re ES at that point.
A few days after I arrived ringing and pounding started in my left
ear and it has never stopped.

I went back this summer with my gauges and discovered that the DECT
phone base located a couple of feet from where I always sit at the
dining table was a constant emitter and that my childhood bedroom was
getting zapped with 1-3 mg from overhead wiring in the back garden.
In the garden I measured up to 14 mg at the patio table. An old
friend of mine told me that when I was a teenager I was convinced
there was a negative ley line in the back garden so I was obviously
picking it up back then.

I had already had a horrible trip from Maui in 3 planes with
fluorescent lights making me feel awful and goodness knows what else.
Couldn't sleep at my parents and ended up getting sick. Was having
palpitations from the DECT phones and my Dad wouldn't believe me.
Eventually he agreed reluctantly to use the land lines when I was
there.

My visit to the UK was pretty hellish as everywhere I stayed people
had constantly-emitting DECT phones and Wi-Fi (except my sister's
who's place was a sanctuary where I went to catch up on sleep and
recover from my cold!) My Mum has been having palpitations and
unexplained internal bleeding and just had a pacemaker put in. I
wouldn't be surprised if the phones play a part in this as the base
emits right into their bedroom as well as the dining room. Been
trying to persuade them to get an Orchid phone.

Sorry, I got off track. Re ringing in the ears: I did notice one time
I was at a dance class and the ringing suddenly got really loud at
which point I noticed I was right next to a wi-fi emitter for the
teacher's microphone.

However, I also think candida is playing a role in the ringing as
well as my neck stiffness.

Just throwing it out there....

Aline

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "betty_starbuckle"
<betty_starbuckle@ ...> wrote:
>
> feeling a bit despondent my grand plan for recovery involved coming
to
> spend some time with my mother in the uk, but i seem to be having
> trouble with the house. Every time i go into my bedroom , my ears
> start ringing ,I wake up and it feel like my liver is reacting , my
> muscles feel tight , i feel pressure in liver area etc. My usual
> measures ie my emf eliminator dont seem to help. I am waiting for
my
> electrosmog meter to arrive so i can start taking definitive
concrete
> measure ments, and so stop convincing myself that is is all in my
> head, but im wondering if wifi from neighbours can create these
sort
> of of symptoms ? or if i am potentially dealing with something
> worse ?. This is the house i grew up in i have never had problems
> with it before , but then i havent lived here in over 20 years ,
and
> i have not visited since this hypersensitivity started. All
thoughts
> and comments appreciated.
>
> Ada
>

 














     

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In a message dated 10/23/2008 8:06:24 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

trying to persuade them to get an Orchid phone.

Sorry, I got off track. Re ringing in the ears: I did notice one time
I was at a dance class and the ringing suddenly got really loud at
which point I noticed I was right next to a wi-fi emitter for the
teacher's microphone.

However, I also think candida is playing a role in the ringing as
well as my neck stiffness.

Just throwing it out there....

Aline



PUK replies - I rekon this stuff will open up an weaknesses that you have,
it is folly to ignore your symptoms, we need more faith in ourselves !


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In a message dated 10/26/2008 10:42:49 P.M. GMT Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:





thanks ailine , england seems to be quite full on actually , Im visiting
family in the country which is helping , But im concerend about going back to
london, I really want to stay with mum, but the house stinks ( energetically)be
quite full on actually , Im visiting famil need a "safe place" , but every
where seems to make me react , so one feels as if one is always hauling ones
bones around looking for sanctuary , does anyone else feel like this i
wonder.- soem times i feel liek going to some hut in the out back of africa , and
taking a break from t he 21st century

ada





PUK replies - What you describe is the plight of most Essers. I am
currently slipping into chronic ill health, with my mood slipping along with it, I to
have no where to run despite having many places to go but they are to EMF`d
for me. I have a man over the road who`s Plasma TV/Sky set up is causing my
house to light up like a christmas tree at the flick of a switch, I have
tried to ask him to play ball with me but he is being evasive. This is
tantamount to torture in my own home, where after 3pm when he returns home and on goes
the TV sending a continuosus signal into my telecoms and incoming
electricity cable, basically turning my entire house into an emitter of the signal, I
cant crack this and no one will help me, so I know where you are coming from.

PUK


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PUK i hear you loud and clear  its like a slow torture , and its so hard to describe because most people think its all in your mind , even i thought it was me , untill i recently got my meter and  saw that there wassomething going on. Funnily enough before i came to uk i was in thailand for 6 weeks in the middle of no where, which helped , and im seriously thinking that third world/ developing world or remote rural first world might bethe answer- given that this our natural environmental state in evolutionary terms , this technology is soo recent , we have not the means as yet to adapt , its all progressing to fast. I have another theory that we sensitives are the canaries in the coal mine, this technology is detrimental to nature and therefore life , it is non sustainable , if bees and trees and marine life find this kind of mombardment negative , then we as humans  andtherfore biological systems are going to react in a biological way. Im
wondering how many people out there have CF or ME and dont know that this is exacerbating their symptoms.
 
take care

When you are down to nothing ... God is up to something!

"Although my Soul shall set in Darkness, I will raise in Perfect Light, I have Loved the Stars to Fondly to be Fearful of the Night."

unknown

--- On Mon, 27/10/08, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: ringing in ears?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, 27 October, 2008, 8:49 PM







In a message dated 10/26/2008 10:42:49 P.M. GMT Standard Time,
betty_starbuckle@ yahoo.co. uk writes:

thanks ailine , england seems to be quite full on actually , Im visiting
family in the country which is helping , But im concerend about going back to
london, I really want to stay with mum, but the house stinks ( energetically) be
quite full on actually , Im visiting famil need a "safe place" , but every
where seems to make me react , so one feels as if one is always hauling ones
bones around looking for sanctuary , does anyone else feel like this i
wonder.- soem times i feel liek going to some hut in the out back of africa, and
taking a break from t he 21st century

ada

PUK replies - What you describe is the plight of most Essers. I am
currently slipping into chronic ill health, with my mood slipping along with it, I to
have no where to run despite having many places to go but they are to EMF`d
for me. I have a man over the road who`s Plasma TV/Sky set up is causing my
house to light up like a christmas tree at the flick of a switch, I have
tried to ask him to play ball with me but he is being evasive. This is
tantamount to torture in my own home, where after 3pm when he returns home and on goes
the TV sending a continuosus signal into my telecoms and incoming
electricity cable, basically turning my entire house into an emitter of thesignal, I
cant crack this and no one will help me, so I know where you are coming from.

PUK

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In a message dated 10/27/2008 2:13:19 P.M. GMT Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

mombardment negative , then we as humans and therfore biological systems
are going to react in a biological way. Im
wondering how many people out there have CF or ME and dont know that this is
exacerbating their symptoms.

take care



Yep will do - your a kindred spirit good luck - PUK


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