re. shielding blanket
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Mariann reported how a special $360 blanket helped shield her from MW
tower radiation but had been owned previously by someone who had cats, to which she is allergic. You don't need to spend that kind of $ to shield from wireless radiation. I have a nice, cheap mylar "blanket" that works just fine. These are sold in camping gear places and some auto stores, as folks keep them in their emergency gear. They are called "space blankets." They reflect almost all the body heat, so are great in an emergency. Also, very thin and lightweight, folding up into almost nothing. I took one along on our recent trip to visit family over Christmas. We were staying in a guest room in a retirement facility my mother-in-law lives in. When I turned on my Electrosmog Detector, I knew we were in trouble. At first I thought the signal must be coming from a tower outside, but there was none. It was coming from the ceiling, from wired-in smoke detectors, that signal to the management or the fire station if there is a fire. (To whom do these signal? And just what is the proper term for them?) Fortunately, the bed had a high, fancy head, so we duct taped the mylar blanket to the head of the bed and spread the rest over the bed, making a safe haven to sleep in. (Mylar is light and slippery, so we draped a pair of pants over it at about knee level, to keep it from sliding out of position.) We spent as little time in that room as possible. At home we do not live really near any MW towers, but there are some at a distance. I have a large piece of cardboard that folds in half for storing during the day. At night I prop that against a chair and drape the mylar over it, between the towers and the bed. Very "quiet" indeed then. I have not bought a mylar blanket lately, but think they are no more than $10. Try Sierra Trading Post. Regards, Shivani [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hello,
we use that already for years as *the poor man's shielding*. It is sold as small packages as *Safety Blankets*, It is a polyesterfilm with metal damped upon it. One side is silver colored, and the other side is gold colored. The package is about 2.20 m x 1.60 m and costs about 3-4 Euro. It is advised to stick it with double sides tape against the curtains in the bedroom, with the golden side outwards. By sewing, the film will tear apart. However, I must warn against ussing shielding on the bed. This shielding (or aluminium) attracks electrical fields from the surroundings, and unwanted potential differences will occur. By that the body tension will rise. So, no shielding on the bed, or near the body. Alwaus use shielding against walls and windows. The same goes for canopies. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 17:57 Subject: [eSens] re. shielding blanket > Mariann reported how a special $360 blanket helped shield her from MW > tower radiation but had been owned previously by someone who had cats, to > which > she is allergic. > You don't need to spend that kind of $ to shield from wireless > radiation. I have a nice, cheap mylar "blanket" that works just fine. > These are > sold in camping gear places and some auto stores, as folks keep them in > their > emergency gear. They are called "space blankets." They reflect > almost all > the body heat, so are great in an emergency. Also, very thin and > lightweight, folding up into almost nothing. > I took one along on our recent trip to visit family over Christmas. > We > were staying in a guest room in a retirement facility my mother-in-law > lives > in. When I turned on my Electrosmog Detector, I knew we were in > trouble. > At first I thought the signal must be coming from a tower outside, but > there > was none. It was coming from the ceiling, from wired-in smoke > detectors, > that signal to the management or the fire station if there is a fire. (To > whom > do these signal? And just what is the proper term for them?) > Fortunately, > the bed had a high, fancy head, so we duct taped the mylar blanket to the > head > of the bed and spread the rest over the bed, making a safe haven to sleep > in. > (Mylar is light and slippery, so we draped a pair of pants over it at > about > knee level, to keep it from sliding out of position.) We spent as little > time > in that room as possible. > At home we do not live really near any MW towers, but there are some > at > a distance. I have a large piece of cardboard that folds in half for > storing during the day. At night I prop that against a chair and drape > the mylar > over it, between the towers and the bed. Very "quiet" indeed then. > I have not bought a mylar blanket lately, but think they are no more > than $10. Try Sierra Trading Post. > > Regards, > Shivani > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > |
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It's nice to speak again about the basic issues (not that I'm not
interested in the foot bath machine, very interesting). I'm also trying to use at best the few square meters of swiss shield (curtain, 50 euros/sq meter) I bought a year ago. So how far from the body is it okay for the canopy tissue ? is 1 meter okay ? Also I read that aluminium just stop the E component of the EM radiation, not the H component ? And it is true the meter does show a decrease, behind an aluminium foil, but is it because the meter is measuring the E component not the H maybe ? This is a question for techies, I understand. jean. --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@m...> wrote: > > Hello, > > we use that already for years as *the poor man's shielding*. > > It is sold as small packages as *Safety Blankets*, > It is a polyesterfilm with metal damped upon it. > One side is silver colored, and the other side is gold colored. > The package is about 2.20 m x 1.60 m and costs about 3-4 Euro. > > It is advised to stick it with double sides tape against the > bedroom, with the golden side outwards. > By sewing, the film will tear apart. > > However, I must warn against ussing shielding on the bed. > This shielding (or aluminium) attracks electrical fields from the > surroundings, and unwanted potential differences will occur. > By that the body tension will rise. > > So, no shielding on the bed, or near the body. > Alwaus use shielding against walls and windows. > > The same goes for canopies. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Norton Antivirus > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <SArjuna@a...> > To: <[hidden email]>; <mariann7@c...> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 17:57 > Subject: [eSens] re. shielding blanket > > > > Mariann reported how a special $360 blanket helped shield her > > tower radiation but had been owned previously by someone who had cats, to > > which > > she is allergic. > > You don't need to spend that kind of $ to shield from wireless > > radiation. I have a nice, cheap mylar "blanket" that works just fine. > > These are > > sold in camping gear places and some auto stores, as folks keep them in > > their > > emergency gear. They are called "space blankets." They reflect > > almost all > > the body heat, so are great in an emergency. Also, very thin and > > lightweight, folding up into almost nothing. > > I took one along on our recent trip to visit family over Christmas. > > We > > were staying in a guest room in a retirement facility my mother- in-law > > lives > > in. When I turned on my Electrosmog Detector, I knew we were in > > trouble. > > At first I thought the signal must be coming from a tower outside, but > > there > > was none. It was coming from the ceiling, from wired-in smoke > > detectors, > > that signal to the management or the fire station if there is a fire. (To > > whom > > do these signal? And just what is the proper term for them?) > > Fortunately, > > the bed had a high, fancy head, so we duct taped the mylar blanket to the > > head > > of the bed and spread the rest over the bed, making a safe haven to sleep > > in. > > (Mylar is light and slippery, so we draped a pair of pants over it at > > about > > knee level, to keep it from sliding out of position.) We spent as little > > time > > in that room as possible. > > At home we do not live really near any MW towers, but there are some > > at > > a distance. I have a large piece of cardboard that folds in half for > > storing during the day. At night I prop that against a chair and drape > > the mylar > > over it, between the towers and the bed. Very "quiet" indeed then. > > I have not bought a mylar blanket lately, but think they are no more > > than $10. Try Sierra Trading Post. > > > > Regards, > > Shivani > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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Hello Jean,
Swiis shield is in two sorts: Naturell and Evolution. The Naturell damps 40 dB, and the Evolution 20 dB, bothe at 900 MHz. At higher frequencies it is less. Both come from the company Biologa. They also have this Diamant tissue. It is more stiff, it damps 20 dB, but costs only 10 Euro/m² I would say that you should be about 2 meters away from it. With a special VLF meter many signals between 5 kHz and 150 kHz are found close to shieldings. Aluminium stops indeed the E component, but has other nasty properties. The E component stands for electrical AC fields; Units V/m (Volts per meter) The H component stands for magnetic AC fields; Units nT (nanoTesla or Gauss) Both should be measured with seperate meters. Modern meters have the two incorporated; pressing a switch lets you choose between. Magnetic fields can anly be shielded by Mu-metal, which is very expensive. But keeping a distance to those fields helps a lot. For further information look at http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina100.html and following pages. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "jean" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 21:46 Subject: [eSens] Re: re. shielding blanket > It's nice to speak again about the basic issues (not that I'm not > interested in the foot bath machine, very interesting). I'm also > trying to use at best the few square meters of swiss shield (curtain, > 50 euros/sq meter) I bought a year ago. > > So how far from the body is it okay for the canopy tissue ? is 1 > meter okay ? > > Also I read that aluminium just stop the E component of the EM > radiation, not the H component ? And it is true the meter does show > a decrease, behind an aluminium foil, but is it because the meter is > measuring the E component not the H maybe ? This is a question for > techies, I understand. > > jean. > > > --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@m...> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> we use that already for years as *the poor man's shielding*. >> >> It is sold as small packages as *Safety Blankets*, >> It is a polyesterfilm with metal damped upon it. >> One side is silver colored, and the other side is gold colored. >> The package is about 2.20 m x 1.60 m and costs about 3-4 Euro. >> >> It is advised to stick it with double sides tape against the > curtains in the >> bedroom, with the golden side outwards. >> By sewing, the film will tear apart. >> >> However, I must warn against ussing shielding on the bed. >> This shielding (or aluminium) attracks electrical fields from the >> surroundings, and unwanted potential differences will occur. >> By that the body tension will rise. >> >> So, no shielding on the bed, or near the body. >> Alwaus use shielding against walls and windows. >> >> The same goes for canopies. >> >> Greetings, >> Charles Claessens >> member Verband Baubiologie >> www.milieuziektes.nl >> www.milieuziektes.be >> www.hetbitje.nl >> checked by Norton Antivirus >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <SArjuna@a...> >> To: <[hidden email]>; <mariann7@c...> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 17:57 >> Subject: [eSens] re. shielding blanket >> >> >> > Mariann reported how a special $360 blanket helped shield her > from MW >> > tower radiation but had been owned previously by someone who had > cats, to >> > which >> > she is allergic. >> > You don't need to spend that kind of $ to shield from wireless >> > radiation. I have a nice, cheap mylar "blanket" that works > just fine. >> > These are >> > sold in camping gear places and some auto stores, as folks keep > them in >> > their >> > emergency gear. They are called "space blankets." They > reflect >> > almost all >> > the body heat, so are great in an emergency. Also, very thin > and >> > lightweight, folding up into almost nothing. >> > I took one along on our recent trip to visit family over > Christmas. >> > We >> > were staying in a guest room in a retirement facility my mother- > in-law >> > lives >> > in. When I turned on my Electrosmog Detector, I knew we were > in >> > trouble. >> > At first I thought the signal must be coming from a tower > outside, but >> > there >> > was none. It was coming from the ceiling, from wired-in smoke >> > detectors, >> > that signal to the management or the fire station if there is a > fire. (To >> > whom >> > do these signal? And just what is the proper term for them?) >> > Fortunately, >> > the bed had a high, fancy head, so we duct taped the mylar > blanket to the >> > head >> > of the bed and spread the rest over the bed, making a safe haven > to sleep >> > in. >> > (Mylar is light and slippery, so we draped a pair of pants over > it at >> > about >> > knee level, to keep it from sliding out of position.) We spent > as little >> > time >> > in that room as possible. >> > At home we do not live really near any MW towers, but there > are some >> > at >> > a distance. I have a large piece of cardboard that folds in > half for >> > storing during the day. At night I prop that against a chair > and drape >> > the mylar >> > over it, between the towers and the bed. Very "quiet" indeed > then. >> > I have not bought a mylar blanket lately, but think they are > no more >> > than $10. Try Sierra Trading Post. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Shivani |
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I don't remember which one it is, I think it was the one 99% decrease
(claimed) that would mean 20db I assume. Note that in fact according to the measures I take, it only divides by five the flux density. And yes my main concern is the 900 MHz radiations. So I'm doing very ghetto devices. For example yesterday I fixed it on one side of the bed, so it is like 30 cm from the body. Before I would put it on the wall concerned. Now I noticed that the measures are very tricky. Basically the closer you are from the shield the better it is, it goes down to less than 1uW/m2, that is what I'm aiming at. I can't cover the whole length of the wall so on the sides the signal is not decreased. Also, my meter just show the density flux, I don't get E or H. jean. --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@m...> wrote: > > Hello Jean, > > Swiis shield is in two sorts: Naturell and Evolution. > The Naturell damps 40 dB, and the Evolution 20 dB, bothe at 900 MHz. > At higher frequencies it is less. > > Both come from the company Biologa. > They also have this Diamant tissue. > It is more stiff, it damps 20 dB, but costs only 10 Euro/m² > > I would say that you should be about 2 meters away from it. > With a special VLF meter many signals between 5 kHz and 150 kHz are > close to shieldings. > > Aluminium stops indeed the E component, but has other nasty properties. > The E component stands for electrical AC fields; Units V/m (Volts per meter) > The H component stands for magnetic AC fields; Units nT (nanoTesla or Gauss) > Both should be measured with seperate meters. > Modern meters have the two incorporated; pressing a switch lets you choose > between. > > Magnetic fields can anly be shielded by Mu-metal, which is very expensive. > But keeping a distance to those fields helps a lot. > > For further information look at http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina100.html > and following pages. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Norton Antivirus > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jean" <tdx244@y...> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 21:46 > Subject: [eSens] Re: re. shielding blanket > > > > It's nice to speak again about the basic issues (not that I'm not > > interested in the foot bath machine, very interesting). I'm also > > trying to use at best the few square meters of swiss shield > > 50 euros/sq meter) I bought a year ago. > > > > So how far from the body is it okay for the canopy tissue ? is 1 > > meter okay ? > > > > Also I read that aluminium just stop the E component of the EM > > radiation, not the H component ? And it is true the meter does show > > a decrease, behind an aluminium foil, but is it because the meter is > > measuring the E component not the H maybe ? This is a question for > > techies, I understand. > > > > jean. > > |
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I confirm the aluminium does protect against the emf. At least with
my meter it gets divided by 5 to 10, when I chech behind an aluminium field and it feels more confortable that without. Now, as discussed, if it is only the E component shielded for phone masts emissions, there might still remain a nuisance, even if it feels already better. jean. --- In [hidden email], SArjuna@a... wrote: > > Mariann reported how a special $360 blanket helped shield her from MW > tower radiation but had been owned previously by someone who had cats, to which > she is allergic. > You don't need to spend that kind of $ to shield from wireless > radiation. I have a nice, cheap mylar "blanket" that works just fine. These are > sold in camping gear places and some auto stores, as folks keep them in their > emergency gear. They are called "space blankets." They reflect almost all > the body heat, so are great in an emergency. Also, very thin and > lightweight, folding up into almost nothing. > I took one along on our recent trip to visit family over Christmas. We > were staying in a guest room in a retirement facility my mother-in- law lives > in. When I turned on my Electrosmog Detector, I knew we were in trouble. > At first I thought the signal must be coming from a tower outside, but there > was none. It was coming from the ceiling, from wired-in smoke detectors, > that signal to the management or the fire station if there is a fire. (To whom > do these signal? And just what is the proper term for them?) Fortunately, > the bed had a high, fancy head, so we duct taped the mylar blanket to the head > of the bed and spread the rest over the bed, making a safe haven to sleep in. > (Mylar is light and slippery, so we draped a pair of pants over it at about > knee level, to keep it from sliding out of position.) We spent as little time > in that room as possible. > At home we do not live really near any MW towers, but there are some at > a distance. I have a large piece of cardboard that folds in half for > storing during the day. At night I prop that against a chair and drape the mylar > over it, between the towers and the bed. Very "quiet" indeed then. > I have not bought a mylar blanket lately, but think they are no more > than $10. Try Sierra Trading Post. > > Regards, > Shivani > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Thanks for the mylar blanket information! I think that will be worth
trying. I'm new to the whole thing, so any other basics are appreciated. Is there a book or webpage anyone can recommend which explains all this so that other people can understand? Is the Electrosmog Detector the same as the other meters others mention? Thanks! Mariann By the way, I paid 100 dollars for the blanket on ebay. Still a large investment for me. Thanks for the ozone tip, too, whoever gave that one. On Wednesday, January 4, 2006, at 11:57 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > Mariann reported how a special $360 blanket helped shield her > from MW > tower radiation but had been owned previously by someone who had cats, > to which > she is allergic. > You don't need to spend that kind of $ to shield from wireless > radiation. I have a nice, cheap mylar "blanket" that works just > fine. These are > sold in camping gear places and some auto stores, as folks keep them > in their > emergency gear. They are called "space blankets." They reflect > almost all > the body heat, so are great in an emergency. Also, very thin and > lightweight, folding up into almost nothing. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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It's nice to hear that on the list, not all people on this list have
2000 $ to spend on devices. Personally I live in france on welfare. So it was really because I had some money left that I could buy 5 sq meters of swiss shield a year ago. I think it helped, cause the flux density decreased then from something like 100 to 40 uW/m2. Now, all I can say is that for people with ES, this is still way too much. I changed the place where I sleep, and I get now like from 1 to 15 uW/m2 right now, with the piece of swiss shield curtain. One advice : plastic rolling shutters for windows do decrease the intensity of the field. The phone mast in my place are 100 meter away facing my appartment. I measure as much as 600 uW/m2 in some spots. jean. --- In [hidden email], Mariann Martin <mariann7@c...> wrote: > > Thanks for the mylar blanket information! I think that will be worth > trying. I'm new to the whole thing, so any other basics are > appreciated. Is there a book or webpage anyone can recommend which > explains all this so that other people can understand? > Is the Electrosmog Detector the same as the other meters others mention? > Thanks! > Mariann > > By the way, I paid 100 dollars for the blanket on ebay. Still a large > investment for me. Thanks for the ozone tip, too, whoever gave that > one. > > > > On Wednesday, January 4, 2006, at 11:57 AM, SArjuna@a... wrote: > > > Mariann reported how a special $360 blanket helped shield her > > from MW > > tower radiation but had been owned previously by someone who had cats, > > to which > > she is allergic. > > You don't need to spend that kind of $ to shield from wireless > > radiation. I have a nice, cheap mylar "blanket" that works just > > fine. These are > > sold in camping gear places and some auto stores, as folks keep them > > in their > > emergency gear. They are called "space blankets." They reflect > > almost all > > the body heat, so are great in an emergency. Also, very thin and > > lightweight, folding up into almost nothing. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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I have a space blanket I probably paid less than ten dollars for. I
didn't find it helpful for ES, and I wouldn't imagine it would be good for shielding unless you could surround yourself 360 degrees with it. It is, however, good for its intended purpose of keeping warm at night. If you have electric heat and want to keep it turned off as much as possible, this item has at least helped me in that regard. John Lankes --- In [hidden email], SArjuna@a... wrote: > > Mariann reported how a special $360 blanket helped shield her from MW > tower radiation but had been owned previously by someone who had cats, to which > she is allergic. > You don't need to spend that kind of $ to shield from wireless > radiation. I have a nice, cheap mylar "blanket" that works just fine. These are > sold in camping gear places and some auto stores, as folks keep them in their > emergency gear. They are called "space blankets." They reflect almost all > the body heat, so are great in an emergency. Also, very thin and > lightweight, folding up into almost nothing. > I took one along on our recent trip to visit family over Christmas. We > were staying in a guest room in a retirement facility my mother-in- law lives > in. When I turned on my Electrosmog Detector, I knew we were in trouble. > At first I thought the signal must be coming from a tower outside, but there > was none. It was coming from the ceiling, from wired-in smoke detectors, > that signal to the management or the fire station if there is a fire. (To whom > do these signal? And just what is the proper term for them?) Fortunately, > the bed had a high, fancy head, so we duct taped the mylar blanket to the head > of the bed and spread the rest over the bed, making a safe haven to sleep in. > (Mylar is light and slippery, so we draped a pair of pants over it at about > knee level, to keep it from sliding out of position.) We spent as little time > in that room as possible. > At home we do not live really near any MW towers, but there are some at > a distance. I have a large piece of cardboard that folds in half for > storing during the day. At night I prop that against a chair and drape the mylar > over it, between the towers and the bed. Very "quiet" indeed then. > I have not bought a mylar blanket lately, but think they are no more > than $10. Try Sierra Trading Post. > > Regards, > Shivani > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Again with the basic questions here. Why would one want shielding to
conduct electricity? It seems to my tiny mind that it should stop electric currents rather than conduct them, especially if it is in clothing or something next to the body. I am curious to know why this works and doesn't make the problem worse. Any one else understand this? Mariann |
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I use shielding I think to block bad frequencies. Not all electricity bothers me. It may be that the T.V.'s and old computer consoles put out a frequency that my body doesn't want or can't deal with anymore. Since I threw away most of my T.V.'s and old computer consoles I don't get sick anymore and can spend hours watching T.V or on the computer while using LCD monitors. But I do use shielding for the screens and don't detect any magnetic field coming from my monitor. It seems to be magnetic fields and microwaves that do me the most damage. I thought I was getting well enough that I stopped wearing my clothing lined with velostat to protect from the microwave towers that are lined along the highway where I drive each day on my job but in a few days I started getting ill again. I use infra red sauna table to sleep under a lot in the winter time to save on heating costs. I also have a UV lamp that I've been exposing myself to for 10 minutes a day. I don't know what frequencies they are or how they differ from electronics equipment but I know that each are on just the opposite side from each other on the light scale. They are either just to the right or left of the visible light we see on the light spectrum charts. I actually get much better results from using these lights that from using my rife generator plasma tube. Although I still keep it in hopes of finding and using good frequencies in the future development of these devices. --- In [hidden email], Mariann Martin <mariann7@c...> wrote: > > Again with the basic questions here. Why would one want shielding to > conduct electricity? It seems to my tiny mind that it should stop > electric currents rather than conduct them, especially if it is in > clothing or something next to the body. I am curious to know why this > works and doesn't make the problem worse. Any one else understand this? > Mariann > |
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