re:ES & Peripheral Neuropathy/Thx for responses

Thanks to all who responded. I read all of your emails to
my friend. He was bummed. Now he is obsessing about EMFs.

Turns out it isn't Peripheral Neuropathy. The fifth doctor or
so he saw said it wasn't. To me, that makes it much more likely
that it's EMF related.

Stephen: What are longitudinal waves? What do you think the
best emf book is that I could read to understand these basics,
and not have to ask for explanations.

Yes, Paul, TV is the Black Abyss! hahaha. So in a way, we are
blessed to have a built-in deterrent to watching much TV.
Got to get these blessings wherever we can!

emraware: Sorry, don't know your name. The rating on the
Trifield was 3mg or less. That's what is supposedly considered
"tolerable", at least by mainstream, thick-skinned folks!
Yeah, I don't even bother to use the microwave setting on the
Trifield. I was renting a massage office that was probably a
football field's length away from a very big cell phone tower.
My Trifield microwave showed very low, but I had an
environmental consultant come with his specialized microwave
meter ($300++) with triangulated wires on top which was much
more sensitive, and showed very high readings. We fixed it though,
with transparent window foil (from Germany). Brought the readings
right down to a safe level.

Lily


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Lily,

I copy/paste Dietrich Grün's messages from this group which will give youa good idea what longitudinal/scalar/Teslar waves are about.

You can shield from the harmful longitudinal waves from emf with water it seems, so if you build an aquarium around your bed, that may not be such a bad idea?!

Longitudinal waves can be positive and/or negative for you. They are present in:
geopathic stress, homeopathy, stones, energized water, energy therapy, music, qlink, bioprotect card, quantum, electro-acupuncture,...

On longitudinal waves, there will definitely be some interesting books... Ihave some interesting books on specific subjects but not one book that discusses longitudinal waves in general.

Stephen.



Hallo Nicolaj,

from my experiments with those electromagnetic waves that easily penetrate a
Fardayan cage and the biological effect of these waves, that I can measure in
electroacupuncture, there are two aspects to it. The biological effect I can
measure, decreases with distance from the source of radiation in a regular way;
this means there is an aspect of intensitiy or energy involveld like with any
other electromegnetic waves we can measure. This biological effect of
longitudinal waves can be positive or negative, which has to do with the second
aspect, namely the information the longitudinal wave carries. You can measure
the
intensity of a radio wave quite exactly, but not the information carried by
this wave; for this you need someone - a biological entitiy - listening to the
program. And again the reaction will depend on the individual taste of this
person, wether he likes this kind of music or not.

So, if some day we can measure longitudinal waves, it will be helpful if we
are going to use these waves to light our houses or driving engines. Bur since
our biological organism as well as animals and plants easily are influencedby
just these waves even in extreme low intensities, we have to be careful not
to do harm. So far we do not care about these waves and create a lot of harm as
electrosensitive people know. So, even if we could measure longitudinal
waves, we would have to do some biological testing. New medicines are also
tested
first on living cells, may be plants, animals and finally humans. The chemical
data alone are not sufficient.

Doing biological testing, the individuals you test may react more or less
different and each individual again may react different with time depending
wether it is stressed, or fresh and healthy or an aged individual. So you can
manage to have contradicting results with the same experiment and discreditany
existing result. Part of the discussion about the negative side effects of
mobile
phones, I suppose, functions this way.

Dietrich Gruen


Hello,
your usual meter never will change its readings after installing one of these
electrosmog devices. But measuring through electroacupuncture you will see a
big difference, and people using these devices will loose their symptoms, at
least many of them. What does this say?

First, the radiation you measure, cannot be the cause of the complaints,
because this radiation is still there, but there are no symptoms. Second, there
must be some other radiation contained in the radiation you measure, that is not
recorded by your meter, but that is the one that is biological effective. I
have studied this radiation extensively, because in elektroacupunkture I could
measure it. This radiation has the properties described by Nicola Tesla for
the waves he discoverd, the Tesla waves. Knowing the laws these Tesla waves
follow, you will be able to develop tools that prevent you from their harmful
effects. All the electrosmog devices I had the chance to test with
electroacupuncture did change these Tesla waves, so the harmful effect
disappears. The waves
themselves are not eliminated, as one might think, just the information they
carry is neutralized. And if you want, you may even give to these Tesla waves a
biological positive information.This is already done by dozens of
electrically driven healing tools.

Playing with all kinds of meters, that are available on the market, you never
will get to the root of the problem, which are the Tesla waves. I am not the
only one, who knows this. Years ago already Prof. u. Warnke from the
university of Saarbrücken Germany stated, that we follow essentially the wrong
way by
studying only the transversal hertzian waves and forgetting the longitudinal
ones, which are the Tesla waves. But so far almost no one seems to take notice
of this and do research along these lines.

dietrich gruen


Hallo,

You are right, to go in resonance with the scalar waves, different things
have a different capacity. So these devices must have a stronger resonance
than a normal human body. But if the body of a person has an extra strong
resonance, these devices will not work; this is the case in ES. I could measure
this via electroacupuncture. A few other experiments have reassured this law of
resonance again and again. It contradicts to the behaviour we learned in
physics about radio waves, which are transversal waves or Hertzian waves. The
longitudinal or Tesla waves behave different. They also pass the shielding of a
Faraday cage, they are absorbed by 2,5 cm of water, they pass along wires -
that is how we get the electrosmog our neighbours produce into our house. They
are altered by crystals to the degree that they are no more harmful.

It is worth while studying them, because this way you may find the solution
to the electrosmog problem.

dietrich






--- In [hidden email], Latifah T <zzzapit@...> wrote:

Latifah T wrote:
> I don't even bother to use the microwave setting on the
> Trifield. I was renting a massage office that was probably a
> football field's length away from a very big cell phone tower.
> My Trifield microwave showed very low,

This is a good example of how one meter can show nothing, while another
shows useful warnings.
Consider the specs for the Trifield, set on RF/Microwave, does not Start
detecting until 6.0 V/m
But that level is at the Top of the Acoustimeter range.

Stewart

Hi Lily,

Hmm, it's very interesting you found a big cell phone tower. I'm so
glad you were able to remediate it with special window film. That's
probably much worse than the power line magnetic fields. The following
video suggests that wireless radiation is worse than power line magnetic
fields:
http://www.magdahavas.com/2010/03/22/live-blood-cells-and-electrosmog/ 
In my research, I found that German students found a similar phenomenon
of clumping during cell phone use, and Bo Sernelius predicted cell
clumping based on math/physics modelling on van der Waals forces, which
are normally very weak, but increase dramatically in the presence of
microwaves.

Regarding power line magnetic fields, though, I would still aim for <
1mG for sleeping quarters, if possible.
The average level in houses in the UK, based on the PowerWatch Handbook
is 0.5 mG.
SBM 2008 (Standard of Building Biology Testing Methods) guidelines for
sleeping quarters recommends <1 mG.


No ConcernSlight ConcernSevere concernExtreme concern <0.2 mG 0.2 mG
to 1 mG 1 mG to 5 mG > 5 mG
The EPA once was considering 2mG as a recommendation.
However, some scientists like Robert Becker are more conservative and
suggest it should be <1 mG. (substandard sperm at 1.6 mG, De-Kun Li,
see microwavenews.com, and Chick embryonic development effects at 1 mG)

Recently, I learned more about a 3rd type of radiation which is dirty
electricity, intermediate frequencies on power lines. A study found
that even when the magnetic field was low, the dirty electricity could
still be high, and cause health effects. See:
http://www.electricalpollution.com/documents/MilhamMorganAmJIndMed2008.p\
df
Fortunately, the levels in my house are usually <200 on the
Graham-Stetzer meter, which is even considered high. However, in the
above document, some school had extremely high ratings > 1000.



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