power lines coming into the house?

Hi all,

My wife and I have been house shopping (not to avoid anything
from an ES standpoint, just a regular move), and looked at
a potential house this morning. One thing that concerned
me was that the power lines which come off the street
and go over to the house come pretty close to areas that
I would spend a lot of time in -- the bedroom, and the
living room. I'm assuming that extra precaution should
be taken with repect to these lines, as they are probably
higher voltage (are they?) than the electricity "in
the walls". Is that true? Should I try to maximize
my distance from these lines?

Marc

Generally the lines which come "to the house" are the same voltage as
the house itself. That is, if you have 120/240V service (as is
common in the US) then the lines coming to the house will also be
120/240V.
The issue is not the voltage, but the magnetic field being produced
by the CURRENT running through the wires.

While a normal circuit in your house carries the current only to the
circuit it feeds, the wires TO your house carry current for the
entire house, so if your house is drawing a large amount of power,
the magnetic field around those wires would likely be large compared
to the magnetic field around any single circuit in your house.

In THEORY, those lines are supposed to be twisted/balanced, such that
the magnetic fields cancel at any appreciable distance (beyond a few
feet), but in PRACTICE, imbalances and ground currents can leave
uncanceled magnetic fields around the feed lines.

So, I guess I'd say yes, I'd have some concern about being too close
to that area if you're bothered by 60hz magnetic fields. A
magnetic field meter would quickly illustrate any possible
problem. Mine shoots up when I walk over the earth where the
buried feed to the house is located.

Garth

On Mar 31, 2006, at 11:12 AM, Marc Martin wrote:

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
>
> > I would spend a lot of time in -- the bedroom, and the
> living room. I'm assuming that extra precaution should
> be taken with repect to these lines, as they are probably
> higher voltage (are they?) than the electricity "in
> the walls". Is that true? Should I try to maximize
> my distance from these lines?
>
> REPLY FROM PAUL

I dont think that they will be higher voltage as they will surely
have been stepped down at the nearest substation, I dont think that
you have a transformer or the like in your home to do this but
nevertheless if the cables are parralell to your house especially
your bedroom you need assuming these are 220 6ohrz then you should
still have at least 20m away as they will elevate the emfs in your
rooms not forgetting about the possibility of high frequency
radiation, re-radiated rf etc..
if they come in perpendicular do they run down wall either internally
or externally do they stop at meter and or consumer switch gear in
bedroom this has got to be bad ! Best thing is to use elec feild/emf
meter, plus of course esmog microwave detector. As a tormented ES
soul I looked by co-incidence at a house with my wife last night,
took along my esmog and found microwave, tetra type signal as well as
bogstandard umts mobile signal by the house, sad to say I had to walk
away !!!! nice house though !! seems to be on edge of 2 cells meeting
(hot spot) this would likely impact on me and my non ES family in
time, we all have enough to deal with in our daily lives, beyond
getting irradiated in our restorative sleep. Wires are better off in
the ground knocking out the efeild component providing your
elec/water board are not getting upto mischief in your locality.

Do you not have a meter such as Trifeild - cheap/cheerfull for the
above purpose. bear in mind only 60hrtz weighted.

regarsd

Paul

HI Marc,

Yes, they may be higher voltage, but remember that it is the current which
produces the magnetic field. Of course, that varies according to demand.

Emil


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 2:12 PM
Subject: [eSens] power lines coming into the house?

Hi,

Powerlines i still can feel at times. Now i live in a third world country and they are probably wired in a way that is less safe and hanging lower then "normal", but no, would not go live under one at this stage.. Oh yes they are stronger then in the wall//then the transformer steps it down.. (like chakra are supposed to work as transformer) This is one thing i still feel, those lines i do not even like standing under one..

next house i would say

Love

PS palipatating along here.. kinda sorta scary in an exiting way. Had a pulll at the nerves left over the heart and after an immediate pain in ear.. squeaking on out/racing on out this thing.. aaauch

They paved paradise and put up a parking lot
that heart is of stone, (plaqued paradise)

beloved says cinnamon and nutmeg.. so i drink that.. (any ideas are welcome, like heartattackpreventionwise)

Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi all,

My wife and I have been house shopping (not to avoid anything
from an ES standpoint, just a regular move), and looked at
a potential house this morning. One thing that concerned
me was that the power lines which come off the street
and go over to the house come pretty close to areas that
I would spend a lot of time in -- the bedroom, and the
living room. I'm assuming that extra precaution should
be taken with repect to these lines, as they are probably
higher voltage (are they?) than the electricity "in
the walls". Is that true? Should I try to maximize
my distance from these lines?

Marc


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Thanks everyone for the responses to my question
about the power lines coming into the house we
were looking at. I was at this house again today,
and I was definitely bothered by being there,
but I can't really blame the power lines,
as the house has a dimmer switch in every
room, has a wireless phone, and wireless
internet. Such are the perils of house
shopping... :-)

I suspect that without these things, plus
the addition of some well-placed devices
(as I do in my current home) that things
would probably be okay. I guess if we
make an offer and it is accepted, I will
get a chance to test that theory!

Marc

thanks for your very clear and helpful message. It was my
understanding too, that if there are say just a couple of overhead
wires only serving my house that they will be the same voltage as the
wires in the house itself. Its very interesting what you say about
the magnetic field (which is what i suspect is causing me problems)
and how it is dependent upon the demand coming from the house,
because even when i shut off all the electrics i feel pretty much the
same.

Does this mean therefore that what i'm feeling might have more to do
with the transformer close-ish to me than the wires feeding my house?
I have said in a previous mail that i have been in 2 places where i
can have the leccy on day & night with no ill effects, so its not
leccy per se that i have a problem with. There's something warped or
more loaded where i'm living. I guess i need to get a gaussmeter,
except i kind of don't want to know if the news is really bad!

--- In [hidden email], Garth Hitchens <garth@...> wrote:
>
> Generally the lines which come "to the house" are the same voltage
as  
> the house itself. That is, if you have 120/240V service (as is  
> common in the US) then the lines coming to the house will also be  
> 120/240V.
> The issue is not the voltage, but the magnetic field being
produced  
> by the CURRENT running through the wires.
>
> While a normal circuit in your house carries the current only to
the  
> circuit it feeds, the wires TO your house carry current for the  
> entire house, so if your house is drawing a large amount of power,  
> the magnetic field around those wires would likely be large
compared  
> to the magnetic field around any single circuit in your house.
>
> In THEORY, those lines are supposed to be twisted/balanced, such
that  
> the magnetic fields cancel at any appreciable distance (beyond a
few  
> feet), but in PRACTICE, imbalances and ground currents can leave  
> uncanceled magnetic fields around the feed lines.
>
> So, I guess I'd say yes, I'd have some concern about being too
close  

> Does this mean therefore that what i'm feeling might have more to do
> with the transformer close-ish to me than the wires feeding my house?

When I was more sensitive, I got the impression that those cylindrical
transformers on the power poles were more of a problem than the wires
themselves.

By the way, I *did* end up buying the house that I expressed concern
about, so I guess when we take possesion and move in, I'll find out
how bad of an issue those incoming wires are, and what I can do
to compensate for them. I doubt I'll have to buy anything new, as
I have quite an arsenal of EMF protection stuff these days. However,
those dimmer switches are all getting replaced!

Marc