pendant and devices - does ANY of them really work?!

So far I have tried:

- q-link
- bioprotect card
- earthcalm pendant
- light images box and pendant
- shieldite pendant

and havent noticed much difference. Are they all just nothing but scam? I am starting to get angry with all those sites that are saying how wonderful and perfect their products are!!

JP

The Q link does work, whether you can tolerate it is another question. Some one next to you who's sensitive can feel the energy it resonates -- could be bad for them.

I wore it in line at stores, & it caused the debut card reader to not work repeatedly.

Kathy

From: jpnordica <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] pendant and devices - does ANY of them really work?!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2012, 3:34 PM
















 



 


   
     
     
      So far I have tried:



- q-link

- bioprotect card

- earthcalm pendant

- light images box and pendant

- shieldite pendant



and havent noticed much difference. Are they all just nothing but scam? I am starting to get angry with all those sites that are saying how wonderful and perfect their products are!!



JP





   
     

   
   






 










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Well, everyone reacts differently.  Some people feel that some of the
above items really help them.

As for me -- and this is just for me, mind you...

- I could barely notice any difference from the Q-Link.
- The BioProtect Card actually made my symptoms worse
- The Earthcalm pendant seemed very strong initially (too strong!), but now it doesn't
   seem to do very much

I have never found any EMF protection device that completely solves my problems.
However, some have proven helpful.  And some of those that are helpful can still
be purchased today:

- The Quantum Companion (requires AA battery) has proven helpful in some
  situations.  Although if I have a cold or flu, it seems to suppress my ability
  to overcome it.

- The "Portable Polarizer" (from CutCat.com) also is helpful, and cheap!  But
   it also seems to suppress my ability to overcome a cold or flu.

- The Mega-Chi pendant can be helpful if I use it a little, or make things worse
   if I use it too much.  It is helpFUL with a cold or flu.

I used to also recommend Springlife Polarizers, but these don't appear to be
sold anymore.

Marc

I'm sorry, didn't mean to say others didn't work.
I've only tried the Q link.

 thanks to Mark for the quick answer.

Kathy

 









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I agree with you absolutely.
I have tried the Quantum device costing a few hundred dollars, as well as a Diode pendant, none of which worked.

The reason why so many of these gadgets works for so many people is probably cuz the "placebo effect" is live & well for them (due to their bodies being less toxified, ad therefore maintaining a homeopathic link. As for myself, the QXCI had diagnosed me as follows: HOMEOPATHIC LINK DIFFICULT DUE TO TOXIC EXPOSURE. Which also explains why placebo never works for me.

The Quantum device site was also marketing a pendant reminding me of Qlink, and which was basically the Quantum device, albeit a "lower level". Also, years ago, a physicist (Dr.Fraser - associated with either QXCI or Nutrienergetic Systems, I forget by now) had posted on their group that he'd tested the QLink, and that it does not work.

Furthermore, a magnet sized device touted by a zillion alternative doctors to protect vs. cellphones & LCD monitors & radios, failed to work for me against my LCD & my radio's waves.

What was that thingie called again? I forget, but whatever they called it, I had posted my experience at a previous date on this group.

--- In [hidden email], "jpnordica" <jpnordica@...> wrote:

> The reason why so many of these gadgets works for so many
> people is probably cuz the "placebo effect"

I think after years of consistent results, one can dismiss placebo
effect... especially when one is unknowingly using a device and
it still works... :-)

... that is, there have been numerous occasions over the years
when I have been mistaken about whether or not I have an
EMF protection device nearby, and the benefits -- or lack
thereof -- have always been consistent with the reality
of the situation, not what I believe to be the reality of
the situation.

Also, I could get pretty consistent behavior from my cats
depending on whether or not specific EMF devices were
in use in the house.  I don't think placebo effect works on
cats... :-)

Marc

> The reason why so many of these gadgets works for so many
> people is probably cuz the "placebo effect"

I will add that some people's ES is so bad that any EMF
protection device doesn't seem to help.  In such cases,
these devices only seem to be helpful after health is
improved.  

Kind of a "catch 22"...

This I think is why healthier people notice benefits from
a Q-Link, while people who are in really bad shape
notice no benefits.

Marc

Wow Marc, that is really interesting that some of this stuff makes it hard to get over a cold/flu.
Lizzie
 



To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:11:26 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] pendant and devices - does ANY of them really work?!


 



Well, everyone reacts differently. Some people feel that some of the
above items really help them.

As for me -- and this is just for me, mind you...

- I could barely notice any difference from the Q-Link.
- The BioProtect Card actually made my symptoms worse
- The Earthcalm pendant seemed very strong initially (too strong!), but now it doesn't
seem to do very much

I have never found any EMF protection device that completely solves my problems.
However, some have proven helpful. And some of those that are helpful can still
be purchased today:

I used to also recommend Springlife Polarizers, but these don't appear to be
sold anymore.

Marc



     

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> Wow Marc, that is really interesting that some of this stuff
> makes it hard to get over a cold/flu.

Yes, everything has "side effects", it seems...

I even have some stuff that I bought for EMF protection that
I ended up using for something else entirely.  A perfect
example of this are "Tachyonized wristbands".  Totally useless
for EMF protection, but I've found that they are great
for increasing stamina for going on long walks/hikes.

Also, Springlife Polarizers are great for sensitivity
to air pollution.

Marc

Looks like Lifewave has something that's working.

Available April 16 th

http://www.Lifewave.com/matrix.asp

Gordy
ID # 597424

> Looks like Lifewave has something that's working.
>
> Available April 16 th
>
> http://www.Lifewave.com/matrix.asp 

Ummm, did you watch the demo video?  They are blocking
and taking measurements from the back of the phone, not
the front (the side that faces your brain).  If they
are reflecting the signal, then the signal is reflected
INTO your brain.  If they are absorbing the signal,
then the cellphone won't be able to communicate with
the tower.

Marc

Good catch Marc.
I thought near the same thing!
Lizzie
 



To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 20:33:31 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: pendant and devices - does ANY of them really work?!


 



> Looks like Lifewave has something that's working.
>
> Available April 16 th
>
> http://www.Lifewave.com/matrix.asp 

Ummm, did you watch the demo video? They are blocking
and taking measurements from the back of the phone, not
the front (the side that faces your brain). If they
are reflecting the signal, then the signal is reflected
INTO your brain. If they are absorbing the signal,
then the cellphone won't be able to communicate with
the tower.

Marc



     

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http://vimeo.com/39165372

I had the opportunity to hear them talk about it Feb 28 th on our weekly Tuesday opportunity call.  605 475-4390  pin 952015# 9 PM EST before you prejudge I suggest you do the same.
  He says we'll have a few webinars explaining more on how it works, so I'll report back later.

Gordy

Has anyone tried these http://www.lifeenergysolutions.com/electrosensitivity/

jp



--- In [hidden email], "jpnordica" <jpnordica@...> wrote:

The pyramid they show looks like an orgone zapper. You can read more about these at: www.educate-yourself.orgtop of page, under headings, line #7, middle of page,orgone experiences. I have used a similiar product, and itseems to help somewhat, but not like the testimonies on that page are saying. The effects I felt are much moresubtle. I also believe that in cases of ES, its the frequencies of the different emfs that are causing health issues. And unfortunately, there are many diff't frequencies, which might explain the variations with how various peoplereact. When you combine the specific cell phone/antenna/ tower frequencies, to what conditions exist within one'sown house....these combined factors, in additonal to an individual person's own body toxic burden, translates to a whole bunch of different reactions, from supplements, to emf blocker and shielders, ect. This is why what works forsome doesn't work for others. Different biological uniqueness, different toxic exposures/histories, different house wiring configurations, different neighborhoodconditions...there's just alot of variables here. One thing i have come to believe, is that there isn't a magic pill/solution. It takes addressing this ES issue from manydifferent angles, from supplementing with nutrients and minerals, supporting both the thyroid and adrenals, from shielding when you can, from reducing exposures of both wirelless radiation and dirty electricity,ect. Blessings, Lizzie  
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      Has anyone tried these http://www.lifeenergysolutions.com/electrosensitivity/



jp



--- In [hidden email], "jpnordica" <jpnordica@...> wrote:

>

> So far I have tried:

>

> - q-link

> - bioprotect card

> - earthcalm pendant

> - light images box and pendant

> - shieldite pendant

>

> and havent noticed much difference. Are they all just nothing but scam? I am starting to get angry with all those sites that are saying how wonderful and perfect their products are!!

>

> JP

>





   
     

   
   






       

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Marc Martin wrote thus at 07:41 14/03/2012:
>Also, I could get pretty consistent behavior from my cats
>depending on whether or not specific EMF devices were
>in use in the house.  I don't think placebo effect works on
>cats... :-)

That's a good observation. Now, I'm getting more interested in getting a Quantum Companion. (This is your top recommendation, right?) Then again, how far it works (if at all) for *me* is still a question mark till I try it out.

I'm more affected by RF compared to ELF. Anyone here who are similarly sensitive have something that you would swear by to recommend?

kb

As someone who has tried Q-Link and other things too, I can empathize with you. I suppose it's not correct to assume that if it worked for others, it would work for us.

jpnordica wrote thus at 04:34 14/03/2012:

> That's a good observation. Now, I'm getting more interested
> in getting a Quantum Companion. (This is your top recommendation,
> right?) Then again, how far it works (if at all) for *me* is
> still a question mark till I try it out.

I actually benefit more from the non-portable items from
Quantum Products.  But the Quantum Companion is the same
sort of thing, except weaker (and portable).

But yes, just because something helps one person doesn't
mean it will help everyone else.  We've seen mixed
results on just about everything, I think.  

Marc

Great news.... Monday we'll know more,    http://vimeo.com/40136227

 David said it's shown to reduce radiation 85% from the front & 95% from the back.

 Stay tuned

Gordy

> Great news.... Monday we'll know more
> http://vimeo.com/40136227 
>
>
>  David said it's shown to reduce radiation 85% from the front & 95% from the
> back.

In which case the phone won't be able to make calls... :-)

This thing sounds mighty suspicious to me... especially when their
"information" is mostly about how much money they're going to
make selling this, and not about how the phone could still work
while reducing the radiation by this amount.

Although I'd still like to hear any reports from anyone willing
to try it.  We don't have any Smart Phones in our family, so
there's nobody to test it with here...

Marc