new wifi meters from xcel energy

> XCel Energy is implementing something called CellNET in MN, WI and the
> dakota's. My house just got converted, the way it works is now the
> electricity meter on your house sends out a wifi signal every 5 min to
> their
> collector for all this smart grid stuff. I tried to talk to the power
> company about getting a meter that say only broadcasts once a day but they
> said that was impossible. This will eventually impact everyone in the US,
> meter-readers are going away. Has anyone else dealt with the power
> company
> on this? For now i'll just shield it at least partially, problem with
> shielding is if they can't get a signal they will come out to see what is
> wrong.
>
> --
> Paul Coffman
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> XCel Energy is implementing something called CellNET in MN, WI and the
> dakota's. My house just got converted, the way it works is now the
> electricity meter on your house sends out a wifi signal every 5 min to
> their
> collector for all this smart grid stuff. I tried to talk to the power
> company about getting a meter that say only broadcasts once a day but
> they
> said that was impossible. This will eventually impact everyone in the
> US,
> meter-readers are going away. Has anyone else dealt with the power
> company
> on this? For now i'll just shield it at least partially, problem with
> shielding is if they can't get a signal they will come out to see what
> is
> wrong.
>
> --
> Paul Coffman
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>

> My electrical company allowed me to put a direct phone line
> communication in to report the usage once a month.
> The water/gas people would not allow it and have the plates that beep
> every 30 seconds!
> It is not a matter of technology, it is a matter of will. It we raise
> enough stink to the right people we can get what we want.
> Now, who has the time for that?
> A
>
> On Mar 9, 2009, at 11:43 AM, Paul Coffman wrote:
>
> > XCel Energy is implementing something called CellNET in MN, WI and the
> > dakota's. My house just got converted, the way it works is now the
> > electricity meter on your house sends out a wifi signal every 5 min to
> > their
> > collector for all this smart grid stuff. I tried to talk to the power
> > company about getting a meter that say only broadcasts once a day but
> > they
> > said that was impossible. This will eventually impact everyone in the
> > US,
> > meter-readers are going away. Has anyone else dealt with the power
> > company
> > on this? For now i'll just shield it at least partially, problem with
> > shielding is if they can't get a signal they will come out to see what
> > is
> > wrong.
> >
> > --
> > Paul Coffman
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
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> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

> My electrical company allowed me to put a direct phone line
> communication in to report the usage once a month.
> The water/gas people would not allow it and have the plates that beep
> every 30 seconds!
> It is not a matter of technology, it is a matter of will. It we raise
> enough stink to the right people we can get what we want.
> Now, who has the time for that?
> A
>
> On Mar 9, 2009, at 11:43 AM, Paul Coffman wrote:
>
> > XCel Energy is implementing something called CellNET in MN, WI and the
> > dakota's. My house just got converted, the way it works is now the
> > electricity meter on your house sends out a wifi signal every 5 min to
> > their
> > collector for all this smart grid stuff. I tried to talk to the power
> > company about getting a meter that say only broadcasts once a day but
> > they
> > said that was impossible. This will eventually impact everyone in the
> > US,
> > meter-readers are going away. Has anyone else dealt with the power
> > company
> > on this? For now i'll just shield it at least partially, problem with
> > shielding is if they can't get a signal they will come out to see what
> > is
> > wrong.
> >
> > --
> > Paul Coffman
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
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> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
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>

> Electric meters are bad sources of EMFs anyway. So it might be a good
> time
> to get it moved to a far corner
> of the property, behind a metal fence. But that will cost
> a couple thousand dollars or more.
>
> If you do shield it with metal screen or whatever that allows them
> to see it and doesn't touch the meter, you might have a case that
> what you did is legal, unless they have some easement allowing
> for a transmitter. Of course the law can change and the utilities
> are very powerful.
>
> It might be smarter to make the shield like a dish point to whereever
> they receive the signal.
>
> Bill
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]<amcafeerr%40nc.rr.com>>
> wrote:
>
> > My electrical company allowed me to put a direct phone line
> > communication in to report the usage once a month.
> > The water/gas people would not allow it and have the plates that beep
> > every 30 seconds!
> > It is not a matter of technology, it is a matter of will. It we raise
> > enough stink to the right people we can get what we want.
> > Now, who has the time for that?
> > A
> >
> > On Mar 9, 2009, at 11:43 AM, Paul Coffman wrote:
> >
> > > XCel Energy is implementing something called CellNET in MN, WI and the
> > > dakota's. My house just got converted, the way it works is now the
> > > electricity meter on your house sends out a wifi signal every 5 min to
> > > their
> > > collector for all this smart grid stuff. I tried to talk to the power
> > > company about getting a meter that say only broadcasts once a day but
> > > they
> > > said that was impossible. This will eventually impact everyone in the
> > > US,
> > > meter-readers are going away. Has anyone else dealt with the power
> > > company
> > > on this? For now i'll just shield it at least partially, problem with
> > > shielding is if they can't get a signal they will come out to see what
> > > is
> > > wrong.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Paul Coffman
> > >
> > >
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> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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> Andrew -
>
> What electric company do you have?
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> My electrical company allowed me to put a direct phone line
>> communication in to report the usage once a month.
>> The water/gas people would not allow it and have the plates that beep
>> every 30 seconds!
>> It is not a matter of technology, it is a matter of will. It we raise
>> enough stink to the right people we can get what we want.
>> Now, who has the time for that?
>> A
>>
>> On Mar 9, 2009, at 11:43 AM, Paul Coffman wrote:
>>
>>> XCel Energy is implementing something called CellNET in MN, WI and
>>> the
>>> dakota's. My house just got converted, the way it works is now the
>>> electricity meter on your house sends out a wifi signal every 5 min
>>> to
>>> their
>>> collector for all this smart grid stuff. I tried to talk to the power
>>> company about getting a meter that say only broadcasts once a day but
>>> they
>>> said that was impossible. This will eventually impact everyone in the
>>> US,
>>> meter-readers are going away. Has anyone else dealt with the power
>>> company
>>> on this? For now i'll just shield it at least partially, problem with
>>> shielding is if they can't get a signal they will come out to see
>>> what
>>> is
>>> wrong.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Paul Coffman
>>>
>>>
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Paul Coffman
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>

>>> meter-readers are going away. Has anyone else dealt with the power
>>> company
>>> on this? For now i'll just shield it at least partially, problem with
>>> shielding is if they can't get a signal they will come out to see
>>> what
>>> is
>>> wrong.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Paul Coffman
>>>