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Faith Williams
Hi,  
My name is Faith. I live in Texas. I am new to the group. I have recently been diagnosed with MCS, ES, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia. and Toxic Mold Syndrome. My illnesses began when I was exposed to high levels of toxic mold(one being Stachybotrys black mold) in my home for a 2 yr period.
I am very familiar with most aspects of all these illnesses I have, except for ES. I have just begun to research it, as I am having problems I dontunderstand such as... If I use the computer, it goes haywire. If I happento use a cell phone, which I very rarely do, it also goes haywire, along with the tv. I am having a hard time comprehending what is going on, as I am not electronically inclined.
I am also trying to understand what I need to do in my bedroom so I can get some sleep.  
As of now, my bed is up against a wall with appliances on the other side,refrigerator,stove & microwave.I have just learned I need to move it. I have my mattress lined with foil to try & prevent out gassing , but I am feeling like an actual antenna!  
   
Any advice anyone could give me on this EMF subject would be greatly appreciated.
   
Thank you, Faith


Luv Ya! Faith
   


 
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Andrew McAfee
Welcome to the group. Sorry to hear about your condition. I am not sure
what causes being overly conductive. I have my hunches about the
nerves' myelinated sheath, mineral imbalance, etc. I don't have any
answers yet.
Yes your body is an antenna, from the DNA to your body height,
different wave lengths are received and transmitted.

I would eliminate all metal from the bed so your body doesn't conduct
any electricity while you sleep. If you can, sleep on a mattress that
has no springs, a frame with no metal, etc. You'll need some basic
meters to test your environment. Get a gauss meter for magnetic fields,
a voltage meter to test your body voltage in bed to see how much you
are conducting from surrounding wires, and an RF meter to see what is
coming into your room.
LESSEMF.COM
has all of these meters.
I recommend turning the power off at night at the breaker box.
Definitely get away from appliances while you sleep especially digital
alarm clocks, etc.
Your gauss meter will tell you how far the fields are radiating. I
think the electrical fields need to be found and how much current is
running through your body needs to be ascertained to get a hold on what
to correct.
Then addressing the wiring may be next.

I would like to hear about your research into what you find works for
healing from Toxic Mold Syndrome.
all my best to you getting well.
There are many others on this list with great answers and comments.
Andrew
On Jul 3, 2006, at 4:36 PM, Faith Williams wrote:

> Hi,
> My name is Faith. I live in Texas. I am new to the group. I have
> recently been diagnosed with MCS, ES, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome,
> Fibromyalgia. and Toxic Mold Syndrome. My illnesses began when I was
> exposed to high levels of toxic mold(one being Stachybotrys black
> mold) in my home for a 2 yr period.
> I am very familiar with most aspects of all these illnesses I have,
> except for ES. I have just begun to research it, as I am having
> problems I dont understand such as... If I use the computer, it goes
> haywire. If I happen to use a cell phone, which I very rarely do, it
> also goes haywire, along with the tv. I am having a hard time
> comprehending what is going on, as I am not electronically inclined.
> I am also trying to understand what I need to do in my bedroom so I
> can get some sleep.
> As of now, my bed is up against a wall with appliances on the other
> side,refrigerator,stove & microwave.I have just learned I need to move
> it. I have my mattress lined with foil to try & prevent out gassing ,
> but I am feeling like an actual antenna!
>
> Any advice anyone could give me on this EMF subject would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Thank you, Faith
>
>
> Luv Ya! Faith
>
>
>
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Marc Martin
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> If I use the computer, it goes haywire. If I happen to use
> a cell phone, which I very rarely do, it also goes haywire,
> along with the tv.

There are others on this list that have reported this problem,
so it does appear to be related in some way to electrical sensitivity.
Although it seems that the electronics are sensitive to you!

> I have my mattress lined with foil to try & prevent out gassing ,
> but I am feeling like an actual antenna!

I would remove the foil, as any metal placed near your body is
going to make things worse for you from ES standpoint. Offgassing
can be dealt with by air purifiers. A relatively inexpensive
brand that would be helpful is Biozone Scientific:

http://www.air-purifier.org/

Although all air purifiers are fairly expensive. Another good choice
would be Aranizers, although these can be too strong for small
rooms. A discounted source for these is at:

http://gulfcoastjuicers.com/aranizer/aranizer.html

(these are all US sources, and probably won't be of any use
if you don't use 110 volt power)

Marc

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bluebonnet
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I would suggest barrier cloth to contain chemicals in a mattress
bluebonnet


> I have my mattress lined with foil to try & prevent out gassing ,




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PUK
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PUK
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Marc - We live near many stables/small holdings, often at night we get a
serious build up of smoke (horse manure burning) probably alot to do with temp
inversions at night. I have toyed with idea of getting a whole house
ventilation system to pressurise the house so smoke does not drift in. Of cours as a
ES person I have stalled this due to emfs from the fan motor, but I suppose
if its way up in loft and sheilded I would be ok. Have you ay experience on
this approach ?

Regarding the stables and burning manure - In connection with MCS It is
highly possible that a contributory factor to me developing ES was and still is
exposure to acrid burning horse manure, this obviously releases loads of
chemicals into the atmosphere, and at the time I experienced the onset of ES me
and my family were literaaly in the thick of it !!

PAUL


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Marc Martin
Administrator
> I have toyed with idea of getting a whole house
> ventilation system to pressurise the house so smoke does not drift in.
> Of cours as a ES person I have stalled this due to emfs from the fan
> motor, but I suppose if its way up in loft and sheilded I would be ok.
> Have you ay experience on this approach ?

My previous house had a whole-house ventilation system. The fan was
so far away from where I would ever go that it was never a concern for
me. However, I didn't find this particularly effective at anything,
and since it draws its fresh air from the outside, you're still going
to get any odors from the outside brought into the house. Again, odors
are best dealt with using air purifiers that use oxidation, but there
is of course the trade-off that these all are electrical devices.

Marc

PUK
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PUK
Thanks for your advice - Yeah elec devices such as purifiers are a problem
for me, and as you say you can never tell the efficiency of the ventilation
systems, of course the salesman is bound to sing thier praises. I will do som
research perhaps ther is an oxidation house vent system om market ?

cheers

Paul


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Emma Tailleir
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> I would suggest barrier cloth to contain chemicals in a mattress
> bluebonnet
>
>> I have my mattress lined with foil to try & prevent out gassing ,
>>

>
> Offgassing can be dealt with by air purifiers. A relatively
> inexpensive
> brand that would be helpful is Biozone Scientific:

Barrier cloth doesn't contain chemicals, the molecules are too small.
That's why foil is used by many CS/CI for containment -- no warp and
weft to allow anything through.

Air purifiers will reduce the levels of ambient VOCs but do not deal
with offgassing. The VOCs still have to get from the mattress to the
air purifier, giving a sleeper plenty of opportunity to breathe them
in. Different from ES devices that work in more of a field basis.

Anything that emits ozone is potentially dangerous for those of us with
CS/CI. Biozone says that their levels are safe, but CS/CI means that we
react to smaller amounts than most people. Are their levels low enough?
Are any levels low enough for those of us who are already compromised?

(Sorry for the brevity, brain's overstressed, but these needed to be
clarified.)

Emma

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Marc Martin
Administrator
> Air purifiers will reduce the levels of ambient VOCs but do not deal
> with offgassing. The VOCs still have to get from the mattress to the
> air purifier, giving a sleeper plenty of opportunity to breathe them
> in.

The ozone-type air purifiers saturate the room that they are in with
some level of ozone, so they go to the source of the VOCs... the VOCs
don't need to go to wherever the air purifer is located.

> Anything that emits ozone is potentially dangerous for those of us with
> CS/CI. Biozone says that their levels are safe, but CS/CI means that we
> react to smaller amounts than most people. Are their levels low enough?

The ozone levels output by the Biozone purifiers is much lower than some
of the other brands. And yes, I do seem to be more sensitive to ozone
than others around me, so it is my tolerance that determines the amount
that I have in a room. This is usually found by experimentation with
different size models in different locations throughout the house, and
also someone could put a timer on them so they are only on for parts of
the day, or put the generator next to a fan to spread it around more
evenly, etc.

Marc

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denom
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I have a couple Ionic Breezes. I get readings on all three scales on my Trifield Meter. I can only leave them on when I'm not in the room.
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Thanks for your advice - Yeah elec devices such as purifiers are a problem
for me, and as you say you can never tell the efficiency of the ventilation
systems, of course the salesman is bound to sing thier praises. I will do som
research perhaps ther is an oxidation house vent system om market ?

cheers

Paul

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