new here, hello......i just recieved two harmonic protectors

i have two harmonic protectors and i am trying to choose which one to
keep, the other is a gift.

one of them i feel a smooth sensation from and it is very nice to wear
all day and all night.

the other i cant wear for more then a few hours before i cant stand it
anymore and must take it off for a while. it seem to give me more of
an alert type of energy, but also i am very anxious with it on (the
other i can still feel lethargic a bit).

note i have at least 15 mercury fillings and i live about fifteen
yards from a cellphone tower.

is the more aggressiv pendit the more theriputic and benificial for
me? or should i stay with the other pendit that has a smooth and non
aggitating energy to it?

p.s. i have done extensive searches and readings of the past posts
already regarding such a problem as the agitation..

thanks

kace

xkace wrote:
> i have two harmonic protectors and i am trying to choose which one to
> keep, the other is a gift.

Are these 2 harmonic protectors supposed to be the same item, and
yet they give 2 completely different reactions? Interesting...

Was one made at a different time than the other?

Personally, anything that makes me anxious and agitated, I get rid
of. Anything that makes me fatigued, nauseous, or gives me a headache,
I keep. Call me silly, but that's what I do! I suspect that they
are all some sort of "detox" effect, but the anxious/agitated
effect is really quite alarming to me, while the other symptoms
are more tolerable. And those latter symptoms usually go away
in a few days anyway. Note that I've never tried to see if the
anxious/agitated symptoms go away, as I always get rid of the
cause rather quickly.

Note that I had a harmonic protector once, and I had the anxious/
anxiety/energetic reaction as well. I got rid of it. That does
leave me more lethargic than I might be otherwise, but I try
to increase my energy with something more tolerable, like
coconut oil (which can cause headaches & nausea if I take too much)

> note i have at least 15 mercury fillings and i live about fifteen
> yards from a cellphone tower.

Note that I had these sort of reactions even after my mercury fillings
were long gone... although 15 mercury fillings could indicate a
mercury/ES connection...

Marc

> Personally, anything that makes me anxious and agitated, I get rid
> of. Anything that makes me fatigued, nauseous, or gives me a headache,
> I keep.

Oh, I should mention one more thing -- things which make me anxious/
agitated/energetic also INCREASE my senstivity to EMF, so they
don't seem to be EMF protectors to me at all -- the make my
problem worse!

Note that I've had the same reaction to the Harmonic Protector
as I did to taking capsules of the supplement "Modifilan"
(concentrated seaweed for radiation/heavy metal detox) or
eating chia seeds (supposed to super-healthy).

Marc

Another thought... you could email the inventors of the
Harmonic Protector and ask them what they think of your
different reactions to the different pendants.

This is their page for the Harmonic Protector:

http://worldwithoutparasites.com/The_Harmonic_Protector.html

And this is the email address listed for their "Contact Us"
information:

[hidden email]

I suspect the inventors would know more about this than
anyone, and I'd be interested in hearing what they have
to say about this subject.

Marc

yes they are both the same item, but the one that is agitating to me
is actually a bit heavier. you can see in the design of it that there
is a little more metal shavings in it.

i think the indiscrepencies in manufacturing these items may give
people who are very sensitive a different reaction. note my father
feels no difference from either device and actually cant sense any
effect of wearing them. we have had them for four days though.
>
> Are these 2 harmonic protectors supposed to be the same item, and
> yet they give 2 completely different reactions? Interesting...
>

i am not sure if they were created at the same time or not.

but thank you for your input..

> Was one made at a different time than the other?
>

kace

Hi,

as far as i know there is just one crystal that transmutes negativity (gonna have to look up which one again and get me some) and the rest just take it on and then need clearing, you might wanna try to put that agitating one in the sun for some time and see if there is a change!!

Love and Light

xkace <[hidden email]> wrote:
yes they are both the same item, but the one that is agitating to me
is actually a bit heavier. you can see in the design of it that there
is a little more metal shavings in it.

i think the indiscrepencies in manufacturing these items may give
people who are very sensitive a different reaction. note my father
feels no difference from either device and actually cant sense any
effect of wearing them. we have had them for four days though.
>
> Are these 2 harmonic protectors supposed to be the same item, and
> yet they give 2 completely different reactions? Interesting...
>

i am not sure if they were created at the same time or not.

but thank you for your input..

> Was one made at a different time than the other?
>

kace







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Marc,
Do you have any root canal still in your mouth?

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> Do you have any root canal still in your mouth?

I have no root canals. I did once have 20 mercury amalgam
fillings, but these are now all replaced with composite
fillings and a metal-free crown.

Marc

Marc, it's rather unusual that with 20 amalgames you had none dead tooth
(the canal filled)!? Probably the amalgames were not heavy ones?!
I am concerned with the issue as I removed many teeth just for the reason
the dead teeth kept going on my nerves, and I felt unloaded after getting
rid of some... In fact I have't shared that with anybody as most people
already think I am weird (not to mention the dentists who even refused to
remove "sane" dead tooth).

I don't find this issue fully related to ES (except as a part of a general
irritability possibly underlying ES), but it's not me who started :-).


Drasko

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> I don't find this issue fully related to ES (except as a part of a
> general irritability possibly underlying ES), but it's not me who started :-).

Some people blame root canals on impairing their immune system due to
possible low-level infections at the root canal.

So, if one thinks of ES as being an immune system problem, then root
canals could be a contributing factor.

Marc

On Aug 1, 2005, at 18:30, Marc Martin wrote:

> Some people blame root canals on impairing their immune system due to
> possible low-level infections at the root canal.
>
> So, if one thinks of ES as being an immune system problem, then root
> canals could be a contributing factor.

I don't have the data points to comment on an immune system source for
ES, but I do know that some of the symptoms I associate with ES
(particularly tinnitus and nerve pain) are worse for inflammation,
which of course is immune-related. So there could be a correlative
relationship if not causal.

The two primary sources of inflammation for me are synthetic chemicals,
especially those derived from petroleum -- which unfortunately includes
the ubiquitous 'parfum' and 'fragrance' -- and weather changes. So
Scotland is fine for me, but only if I can avoid the chems.

Emma