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is electronic rife device & magnetic pulser bad for EMF??

muii20
Do anyone here use any rife devices or magnetic pulsers ??

Are they bad for EMF?

I have GB4000 & SR4 device & Sota magnetic pulser; I hardly use them, now especially knowing I have EMF problems because of my easily inverted spin.

As my rife device can run therapeutic freqs, it's a shame if they induce EMF to the body.

Does anybody use any bio-resonance to help EMF sensitivity?

Also I am interested in trying the Russian Lyapko applicator to help with  balancing meridians, any comment about these products since they are using metal needles??

http://www.applicatorlyapko.com/


blessings
alice

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Elizabeth thode




Hi Alice,

 

To your question:

any comment
about these products since they are using metal needles??

 

I read somewhere that metal
needles cause blockages in the body's electrical system.

My intuition tells me this
is true. Whether its true for everyone, I can't say.

 

But it seems to me, if a
person already has a lot of electrical blockages,

and they receive some kind
of treatment, using metal needles,

they'd end up with
"more" blockages.

There is a member on here, I
think her name is Amanda, who is an Accupunture PRactitioner;

 

I seem to recall her saying
that the needles "they" used, were plastc coated, for the reasons

I stated above.

 

I'll try to find it the
original source where I first read this, about metal needles causing

electrical blockages.

 

My own experience has taught
me, that both dirty electricity and emfs from wireless

radiation, DO cause
electrical blockages. So for me, I have found using Accupressure/

Reflexology treatments, work
quite well.

 

I found a great book on the
above: "Healing With Pressure Point Therapy" by Jack Forem

and Steve Shimer.
(amazon.com was where I bought it.)

 

Blessings,

Lizzie

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      Do anyone here use any rife devices or magnetic pulsers ??



Are they bad for EMF?



I have GB4000 & SR4 device & Sota magnetic pulser; I hardly use them, now especially knowing I have EMF problems because of my easily inverted spin.



As my rife device can run therapeutic freqs, it's a shame if they induce EMF to the body.



Does anybody use any bio-resonance to help EMF sensitivity?



Also I am interested in trying the Russian Lyapko applicator to help with  balancing meridians, any comment about these products since they are using metal needles??



http://www.applicatorlyapko.com/



blessings

alice





   
     

   
   






       

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muii20
Hi Lizzie

Thanks for your comments! This is the first time I heard about plastic coating on acupuncture needles!! It's most intriguing! All the time I thought acupuncture is best done or has to be done with metal needles to get good 'chi' effect. Regarding metal needling would cause blockages; there are so many things, new concepts that are not known!
If you can locate the source on metal needles & blockages, please let me know.

I had dozens of acupunture treatments before & they had helped tremenduously to relieve severe pain in my whole hand & back & improved my hormones. Since accupunture are not cheap, I can't afford to get treatments continuously for longer period.  

I had bought couple of acupressure books, but my laziness & lack of perseverance stops me trying them. If I don't see result very quick, I give up very easily or would not even bother to try. So I am trying to find some methods which may work very quick & easy to do.

It seems Russia is much advanced in alternative therapies because of govt policy & support, that's why I am keen to try  Russian methods.

I think I will get one of the Lyapko roller to try as it's not expensive & easy to use.

blessings
alice


--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote:

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> Hi Alice,
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>
> To your question:
>
> any comment
> about these products since they are using metal needles??
>
>  
>
> I read somewhere that metal
> needles cause blockages in the body's electrical system.
>
> My intuition tells me this
> is true. Whether its true for everyone, I can't say.
>
>  
>
> But it seems to me, if a
> person already has a lot of electrical blockages,
>
> and they receive some kind
> of treatment, using metal needles,
>
> they'd end up with
> "more" blockages.
>
> There is a member on here, I
> think her name is Amanda, who is an Accupunture PRactitioner;
>
>  
>
> I seem to recall her saying
> that the needles "they" used, were plastc coated, for the reasons
>
> I stated above.
>
>  
>
> I'll try to find it the
> original source where I first read this, about metal needles causing
>
> electrical blockages.
>
>  
>
> My own experience has taught
> me, that both dirty electricity and emfs from wireless
>
> radiation, DO cause
> electrical blockages. So for me, I have found using Accupressure/
>
> Reflexology treatments, work
> quite well.
>
>  
>
> I found a great book on the
> above: "Healing With Pressure Point Therapy" by Jack Forem
>
> and Steve Shimer.
> (amazon.com was where I bought it.)
>
>  
>
> Blessings,
>
> Lizzie
>
> To: [hidden email]
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> As my rife device can run therapeutic freqs, it's a shame if they induce EMF to the body.
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> Does anybody use any bio-resonance to help EMF sensitivity?
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> Also I am interested in trying the Russian Lyapko applicator to help with  balancing meridians, any comment about these products since they are using metal needles??
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> http://www.applicatorlyapko.com/
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Alice,

I went to a doc. who uses a Rife for mos to help detox.  & it didn't bother me.

 Rife machines actually give you energy to fight ES. Help w ATP energy.

I don't know anything about a magnetic pulser to comment.

Kathy





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[eSens] is electronic rife device & magnetic pulser  bad for EMF??



Do anyone here use any rife devices or magnetic pulsers ??



Are they bad for EMF?



I have GB4000 & SR4 device & Sota magnetic pulser; I hardly use them, now especially knowing I have EMF problems because of my easily inverted spin.



As my rife device can run therapeutic freqs, it's a shame if they induce EMF to the body.



Does anybody use any bio-resonance to help EMF sensitivity?



Also I am interested in trying the Russian Lyapko applicator to help with  balancing meridians, any comment about these products since they are using metal needles??



http://www.applicatorlyapko.com/



blessings



alice



                     



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Aimee-2
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Hi Alice,
where will you get the roller from?  I would like to try one of them too but the site I found just tells about them, and no place to order.
thanks
Aimee

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From: muii20 <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: is electronic rife device & magnetic pulser bad for EMF??
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, August 27, 2012, 9:02 PM


Hi Lizzie

Thanks for your comments! This is the first time I heard about plastic coating on acupuncture needles!! It's most intriguing! All the time I thought acupuncture is best done or has to be done with metal needles to get good 'chi' effect. Regarding metal needling would cause blockages; there are so many things, new concepts that are not known!
If you can locate the source on metal needles & blockages, please let me know.

I had dozens of acupunture treatments before & they had helped tremenduously to relieve severe pain in my whole hand & back & improved my hormones. Since accupunture are not cheap, I can't afford to get treatments continuously for longer period. 

I had bought couple of acupressure books, but my laziness & lack of perseverance stops me trying them. If I don't see result very quick, I give up very easily or would not even bother to try. So I am trying to find some methods which may work very quick & easy to do.

It seems Russia is much advanced in alternative therapies because of govt policy & support, that's why I am keen to try  Russian methods.

I think I will get one of the Lyapko roller to try as it's not expensive & easy to use.

blessings
alice


--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Alice,
>

>
> To your question:
>
> any comment
> about these products since they are using metal needles??
>

>
> I read somewhere that metal
> needles cause blockages in the body's electrical system.
>
> My intuition tells me this
> is true. Whether its true for everyone, I can't say.
>

>
> But it seems to me, if a
> person already has a lot of electrical blockages,
>
> and they receive some kind
> of treatment, using metal needles,
>
> they'd end up with
> "more" blockages.
>
> There is a member on here, I
> think her name is Amanda, who is an Accupunture PRactitioner;
>

>
> I seem to recall her saying
> that the needles "they" used, were plastc coated, for the reasons
>
> I stated above.
>

>
> I'll try to find it the
> original source where I first read this, about metal needles causing
>
> electrical blockages.
>

>
> My own experience has taught
> me, that both dirty electricity and emfs from wireless
>
> radiation, DO cause
> electrical blockages. So for me, I have found using Accupressure/
>
> Reflexology treatments, work
> quite well.
>

>
> I found a great book on the
> above: "Healing With Pressure Point Therapy" by Jack Forem
>
> and Steve Shimer.
> (amazon.com was where I bought it.)
>

>
> Blessings,
>
> Lizzie
>
> To: [hidden email]
> From: mayflower700@...
> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 22:47:35 +0000
> Subject: [eSens] is electronic rife device & magnetic pulser  bad for EMF??
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>       Do anyone here use any rife devices or magnetic pulsers ??
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> Are they bad for EMF?
>
>
>
> I have GB4000 & SR4 device & Sota magnetic pulser; I hardly use them, now especially knowing I have EMF problems because of my easily inverted spin.
>
>
>
> As my rife device can run therapeutic freqs, it's a shame if they induce EMF to the body.
>
>
>
> Does anybody use any bio-resonance to help EMF sensitivity?
>
>
>
> Also I am interested in trying the Russian Lyapko applicator to help with  balancing meridians, any comment about these products since they are using metal needles??
>
>
>
> http://www.applicatorlyapko.com/
>
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>
> blessings
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> alice
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Elizabeth thode




 Try here.www.abundanthealth4u.com




9803 - Vita Flex Foot
Roller Lizzie
 









 
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      Hi Alice,

where will you get the roller from?  I would like to try one of them too but the site I found just tells about them, and no place to order.

thanks

Aimee



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From: muii20 <[hidden email]>

Subject: [eSens] Re: is electronic rife device & magnetic pulser bad for EMF??

To: [hidden email]

Date: Monday, August 27, 2012, 9:02 PM



Hi Lizzie



Thanks for your comments! This is the first time I heard about plastic coating on acupuncture needles!! It's most intriguing! All the time I thought acupuncture is best done or has to be done with metal needles to get good 'chi' effect. Regarding metal needling would cause blockages; there are so many things, new concepts that are not known!

If you can locate the source on metal needles & blockages, please let me know.



I had dozens of acupunture treatments before & they had helped tremenduously to relieve severe pain in my whole hand & back & improved my hormones. Since accupunture are not cheap, I can't afford to get treatments continuously for longer period.  



I had bought couple of acupressure books, but my laziness & lack of perseverance stops me trying them. If I don't see result very quick, I give up very easily or would not even bother to try. So I am trying to find some methods which may work very quick & easy to do.



It seems Russia is much advanced in alternative therapies because of govt policy & support, that's why I am keen to try  Russian methods.



I think I will get one of the Lyapko roller to try as it's not expensive & easy to use.



blessings

alice



--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi Alice,

>

>  

>

> To your question:

>

> any comment

> about these products since they are using metal needles??

>

>  

>

> I read somewhere that metal

> needles cause blockages in the body's electrical system.

>

> My intuition tells me this

> is true. Whether its true for everyone, I can't say.

>

>  

>

> But it seems to me, if a

> person already has a lot of electrical blockages,

>

> and they receive some kind

> of treatment, using metal needles,

>

> they'd end up with

> "more" blockages.

>

> There is a member on here, I

> think her name is Amanda, who is an Accupunture PRactitioner;

>

>  

>

> I seem to recall her saying

> that the needles "they" used, were plastc coated, for the reasons

>

> I stated above.

>

>  

>

> I'll try to find it the

> original source where I first read this, about metal needles causing

>

> electrical blockages.

>

>  

>

> My own experience has taught

> me, that both dirty electricity and emfs from wireless

>

> radiation, DO cause

> electrical blockages. So for me, I have found using Accupressure/

>

> Reflexology treatments, work

> quite well.

>

>  

>

> I found a great book on the

> above: "Healing With Pressure Point Therapy" by Jack Forem

>

> and Steve Shimer.

> (amazon.com was where I bought it.)

>

>  

>

> Blessings,

>

> Lizzie

>

> To: [hidden email]

> From: mayflower700@...

> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 22:47:35 +0000

> Subject: [eSens] is electronic rife device & magnetic pulser  bad for EMF??

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>       Do anyone here use any rife devices or magnetic pulsers ??

>

>

>

> Are they bad for EMF?

>

>

>

> I have GB4000 & SR4 device & Sota magnetic pulser; I hardly use them, now especially knowing I have EMF problems because of my easily inverted spin.

>

>

>

> As my rife device can run therapeutic freqs, it's a shame if they induce EMF to the body.

>

>

>

> Does anybody use any bio-resonance to help EMF sensitivity?

>

>

>

> Also I am interested in trying the Russian Lyapko applicator to help with  balancing meridians, any comment about these products since they are using metal needles??

>

>

>

> http://www.applicatorlyapko.com/

>

>

>

> blessings

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> alice

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Aimee-2
Thanks Lizzie, but I'm not sure this is what she was talking about.  It's called Lyapko roller from Russia. It has 'needles'  that are beneficial.  On the site I saw there is a phone number and it's in the Ukraine.
http://www.lyapko.ua/en/using.html
Maybe I'm just not seeing a cart/order form?
 
 
I think she will have to tell us :)
Aimee

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From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
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Try here.www.abundanthealth4u.com




9803 - Vita Flex Foot
Roller Lizzie











To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 21:10:51 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: is electronic rife device & magnetic pulser  bad for EMF??




















 


   
     
     
      Hi Alice,

where will you get the roller from?  I would like to try one of them too but the site I found just tells about them, and no place to order.

thanks

Aimee



--- On Mon, 8/27/12, muii20 <[hidden email]> wrote:



From: muii20 <[hidden email]>

Subject: [eSens] Re: is electronic rife device & magnetic pulser bad for EMF??

To: [hidden email]

Date: Monday, August 27, 2012, 9:02 PM



Hi Lizzie



Thanks for your comments! This is the first time I heard about plastic coating on acupuncture needles!! It's most intriguing! All the time I thought acupuncture is best done or has to be done with metal needles to get good 'chi' effect. Regarding metal needling would cause blockages; there are so many things, new concepts that are not known!

If you can locate the source on metal needles & blockages, please let me know.



I had dozens of acupunture treatments before & they had helped tremenduously to relieve severe pain in my whole hand & back & improved my hormones. Since accupunture are not cheap, I can't afford to get treatments continuously for longer period. 



I had bought couple of acupressure books, but my laziness & lack of perseverance stops me trying them. If I don't see result very quick, I give up very easily or would not even bother to try. So I am trying to find some methods which may work very quick & easy to do.



It seems Russia is much advanced in alternative therapies because of govt policy & support, that's why I am keen to try  Russian methods.



I think I will get one of the Lyapko roller to try as it's not expensive & easy to use.



blessings

alice



--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi Alice,

>



>

> To your question:

>

> any comment

> about these products since they are using metal needles??

>



>

> I read somewhere that metal

> needles cause blockages in the body's electrical system.

>

> My intuition tells me this

> is true. Whether its true for everyone, I can't say.

>



>

> But it seems to me, if a

> person already has a lot of electrical blockages,

>

> and they receive some kind

> of treatment, using metal needles,

>

> they'd end up with

> "more" blockages.

>

> There is a member on here, I

> think her name is Amanda, who is an Accupunture PRactitioner;

>



>

> I seem to recall her saying

> that the needles "they" used, were plastc coated, for the reasons

>

> I stated above.

>



>

> I'll try to find it the

> original source where I first read this, about metal needles causing

>

> electrical blockages.

>



>

> My own experience has taught

> me, that both dirty electricity and emfs from wireless

>

> radiation, DO cause

> electrical blockages. So for me, I have found using Accupressure/

>

> Reflexology treatments, work

> quite well.

>



>

> I found a great book on the

> above: "Healing With Pressure Point Therapy" by Jack Forem

>

> and Steve Shimer.

> (amazon.com was where I bought it.)

>



>

> Blessings,

>

> Lizzie

>

> To: [hidden email]

> From: mayflower700@...

> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 22:47:35 +0000

> Subject: [eSens] is electronic rife device & magnetic pulser  bad for EMF??

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>       Do anyone here use any rife devices or magnetic pulsers ??

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> Are they bad for EMF?

>

>

>

> I have GB4000 & SR4 device & Sota magnetic pulser; I hardly use them, now especially knowing I have EMF problems because of my easily inverted spin.

>

>

>

> As my rife device can run therapeutic freqs, it's a shame if they induce EMF to the body.

>

>

>

> Does anybody use any bio-resonance to help EMF sensitivity?

>

>

>

> Also I am interested in trying the Russian Lyapko applicator to help with  balancing meridians, any comment about these products since they are using metal needles??

>

>

>

> http://www.applicatorlyapko.com/

>

>

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> blessings

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> alice

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muii20
Hiya

I originally want to try the bed of needles mat for relaxation & pain relieve ( I don't have any but want to try for friends who have muscle pain) then I come across the russian applicator & rollers. They are used in hospitals & clinics & have lots of medical awards.

Here I just copied pasted what I saved in my files; it's 7am in morning I haven't slept yet, need to go to bed now.


Tibetan pad    http://www.ecrater.co.uk/p/2884713/tibetan-acupressure-mat-deluxe-kuznetsov?gps=1  £38

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Discussion of facial roller  http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=43058&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0
Non metal facial roller   http://www.sourcingmap.com/pink-roller-beauty-facial-face-massage-tool-with-plastic-handle-p-42894.html
Discussion of High Freq device  http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=43525


Lyapko Nikolay Grigoryevich Links


http://www.applicatorlyapko.com/gallery.htm#  Ukraine shop & info


http://victressinall.hubpages.com/hub/Safe-and-Natural-Way-To-Relieve-Pain  further links


massage tools how to
http://www.lyapko.ua/en/indications-to-using-masseurs.html

cheaperest Ukraine web site ( I am going to order from this site as their's cheapest price)
https://soda173.com/Lyapko?page=1

talk later
alice



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> Thanks Lizzie, but I'm not sure this is what she was talking about.  It's called Lyapko roller from Russia. It has 'needles'  that are beneficial.  On the site I saw there is a phone number and it's in the Ukraine.
> http://www.lyapko.ua/en/using.html
> Maybe I'm just not seeing a cart/order form?
>  
>  
> I think she will have to tell us :)
> Aimee
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surpriseshan2
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     I  was just wondering if you understood that low level lasers can be used and  are used in place of needles for acupuncture??

You might be interested in this article --
Biological Effects Of Painless Laser Needle
Acupuncture
http://www.medicalacupuncture.org/aama_marf/journal/vol16_1/article5.html

    In fact, though I have never done acupuncture with needles , my understanding is that it can be quite difficult to do this and be accurate  -- however with low level lasers this is not a problem -- in fact is so much easier that they have found that it can be done at home just as effectively if done using low level lasers.  For me, I have found this a lot cheaper and just as effective.

    This video shows how to use the low level laser on the acupuncture points in the ear
 Meridian Laser Technique DVD/VIDEO
Free download-- download links for Windows & one for Macs - http://www.allergyantidotes.com/Thank_You.html 
 
  This health professional in this video uses the low level laser and acupuncture points mostly for allergies, sensitivities and blockages but the principles are the same for pain etc too.

    I have copied this into a pdf file for easier reading for myself - if you would like it ,send me your email address and I will email it to you.

             blessings
                Shan

--- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Alice,
>
>  
>
> To your question:
>
> any comment
> about these products since they are using metal needles??
>
>  
>
> I read somewhere that metal
> needles cause blockages in the body's electrical system.
>
> My intuition tells me this
> is true. Whether its true for everyone, I can't say.
>
>  
>
> But it seems to me, if a
> person already has a lot of electrical blockages,
>
> and they receive some kind
> of treatment, using metal needles,
>
> they'd end up with
> "more" blockages.
>
> There is a member on here, I
> think her name is Amanda, who is an Accupunture PRactitioner;
>
>  
>
> I seem to recall her saying
> that the needles "they" used, were plastc coated, for the reasons
>
> I stated above.
>
>  
>
> I'll try to find it the
> original source where I first read this, about metal needles causing
>
> electrical blockages.
>
>  
>
> My own experience has taught
> me, that both dirty electricity and emfs from wireless
>
> radiation, DO cause
> electrical blockages. So for me, I have found using Accupressure/
>
> Reflexology treatments, work
> quite well.
>
>  
>
> I found a great book on the
> above: "Healing With Pressure Point Therapy" by Jack Forem
>
> and Steve Shimer.
> (amazon.com was where I bought it.)
>
>  
>
> Blessings,
>
> Lizzie
>
> To: [hidden email]
> From: mayflower700@...
> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 22:47:35 +0000
> Subject: [eSens] is electronic rife device & magnetic pulser  bad for EMF??
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>       Do anyone here use any rife devices or magnetic pulsers ??
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> Are they bad for EMF?
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>
> I have GB4000 & SR4 device & Sota magnetic pulser; I hardly use them, now especially knowing I have EMF problems because of my easily inverted spin.
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> As my rife device can run therapeutic freqs, it's a shame if they induce EMF to the body.
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>
> Does anybody use any bio-resonance to help EMF sensitivity?
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>
> Also I am interested in trying the Russian Lyapko applicator to help with  balancing meridians, any comment about these products since they are using metal needles??
>
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> http://www.applicatorlyapko.com/
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> blessings
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> alice
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muii20
Hi Shan

Thank you for your infos; sometime ago a lady on rife group has very kindly send me the links & some files on laser which may have cover some same infos of yours. You remind me to explore these methods again  & I think they would be very useful!

I have only tried the lasering the ear for allergy for a friend once; haven't quite experimenting more of that type of technique.

For pain relief, I mostly use CLRT & also lasering directly on problem muscles with quantum wave lasers; but normally I would just try TFT or alphabiotics as they are very quick, several minutes they are all done even for severe pain, if they don't work, I then use CLRT or my big lasers, I have had lots of miracles with these methods; if I have muscle pain myself, I prefer to get my hubby to do chinese cupping on me as I love the sensation of it. As I haven't taken more time to learn & experiment enough into using lasers especially working with meridian points; my methods do not work all the time, I want to use laser more in acupuncture way, but I  have very poor memory in general, & it's very difficult for me to remember accu points; triggers pts anatomy etc. Also my biggest weakness is that if something don't work straight away or have great improvement, I give up very easily & want to try something else. Strangely enough, I find different people with different situation would response to totally different methods & I really have no idea; different method not matter how simple or impossible it is, may work miracles for some persons, on the other hand, there are times I have tried lasering hrs on involved muscles & also on meridians points & CLRT, etc & I just couldn't get any result at all; so I want to explore more different things; but I know I need to take time to learn a subject or technique well in order to have good use of it.

The Lyapko applicator & roller seems to be very simple that doesn't require meridian knowledge & I can just mechanically running the roller on myself or somebody without my brain & attention.

Do you use tesing vials for allergies? How do you use your lasers? I haven't tried the laser spraying method as I don't have testing vials

I hope one day someone would invent a simple lasering method to correct inverted spin which is a major issue with EMF.

blessings
alice



--- In [hidden email], "bestsurprise2" <surpriseshan2@...> wrote:

>
>      I  was just wondering if you understood that low level lasers can be used and  are used in place of needles for acupuncture??
>
> You might be interested in this article --
> Biological Effects Of Painless Laser Needle
> Acupuncture
> http://www.medicalacupuncture.org/aama_marf/journal/vol16_1/article5.html
>
>     In fact, though I have never done acupuncture with needles , my understanding is that it can be quite difficult to do this and be accurate  -- however with low level lasers this is not a problem -- in fact is so much easier that they have found that it can be done at home just as effectively if done using low level lasers.  For me, I have found this a lot cheaper and just as effective.
>
>     This video shows how to use the low level laser on the acupuncture points in the ear
>  Meridian Laser Technique DVD/VIDEO
> Free download-- download links for Windows & one for Macs - http://www.allergyantidotes.com/Thank_You.html 
>  
>   This health professional in this video uses the low level laser and acupuncture points mostly for allergies, sensitivities and blockages but the principles are the same for pain etc too.
>
>     I have copied this into a pdf file for easier reading for myself - if you would like it ,send me your email address and I will email it to you.
>
>              blessings
>                 Shan
>
> --- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Alice,
> >
> >  
> >
> > To your question:
> >
> > any comment
> > about these products since they are using metal needles??
> >
> >  
> >
> > I read somewhere that metal
> > needles cause blockages in the body's electrical system.
> >
> > My intuition tells me this
> > is true. Whether its true for everyone, I can't say.
> >
> >  
> >
> > But it seems to me, if a
> > person already has a lot of electrical blockages,
> >
> > and they receive some kind
> > of treatment, using metal needles,
> >
> > they'd end up with
> > "more" blockages.
> >
> > There is a member on here, I
> > think her name is Amanda, who is an Accupunture PRactitioner;
> >
> >  
> >
> > I seem to recall her saying
> > that the needles "they" used, were plastc coated, for the reasons
> >
> > I stated above.
> >
> >  
> >
> > I'll try to find it the
> > original source where I first read this, about metal needles causing
> >
> > electrical blockages.
> >
> >  
> >
> > My own experience has taught
> > me, that both dirty electricity and emfs from wireless
> >
> > radiation, DO cause
> > electrical blockages. So for me, I have found using Accupressure/
> >
> > Reflexology treatments, work
> > quite well.
> >
> >  
> >
> > I found a great book on the
> > above: "Healing With Pressure Point Therapy" by Jack Forem
> >
> > and Steve Shimer.
> > (amazon.com was where I bought it.)
> >
> >  
> >
> > Blessings,
> >
> > Lizzie
> >
> > To: [hidden email]
> > From: mayflower700@
> > Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 22:47:35 +0000
> > Subject: [eSens] is electronic rife device & magnetic pulser  bad for EMF??
> >
> >
> >
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> >      
> >       Do anyone here use any rife devices or magnetic pulsers ??
> >
> >
> >
> > Are they bad for EMF?
> >
> >
> >
> > I have GB4000 & SR4 device & Sota magnetic pulser; I hardly use them, now especially knowing I have EMF problems because of my easily inverted spin.
> >
> >
> >
> > As my rife device can run therapeutic freqs, it's a shame if they induce EMF to the body.
> >
> >
> >
> > Does anybody use any bio-resonance to help EMF sensitivity?
> >
> >
> >
> > Also I am interested in trying the Russian Lyapko applicator to help with  balancing meridians, any comment about these products since they are using metal needles??
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.applicatorlyapko.com/
> >
> >
> >
> > blessings
> >
> > alice
> >
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surpriseshan2
   Alice you do not need the vials if you use Sandi Radomski's method of laser spraying the ears. She says that all the acupuncture points are on the ear and when lasering for allergies, sensitivities and blockages those are all the acupuncture points you need. I guess you have not watched Sandi's video/DVD at the url that I sent   http://www.allergyantidotes.com/Thank_You.html  - you don't have to download it if you don't want to - you can just watch it on the internet. She does not use vials, in her video/DVD anyhow - you can just hold the item that one is sensitive or allergic to in 'your energy field'.
   When I posted the url to that video I posted it as a free download as most people I have discussed this treatment with wanted to download the video for easy access.

   What does CLRT stand for? and what is "TFT or alphabiotics" ?

    I don't know how I would have coped without using the lasers for pain last fall & winter when I became sensitized to microwave radiation - the pain has been terrible. I have had MCS since 1988 and have never had pain even close to that I frequently experienced from microwave radiation. And unfortunately I had no knowledge that  sensitivities caused by frequencies caused pain - not that more knowledge would have stopped the pain but at least I would have been more prepared.

     I have never tried the cupping but have read about it - it certainly sounds as if it would be effective.

  Actually I know very little about meridians too - even after watching Sandi's video a few times and reading her book of the same name ,  I still am no more enlightened. In both her video and her book she uses only the acupuncture points in the ears, hands, & feet which she makes use of  with what she calls "laser spraying". Though in her book she does refer to EFT statements a few times as this can be used with the laser spraying and acupuncture points especially for persistent blockages.

   In the past I have not even tried to use lasers on muscles as I always have had easy success and great results using  transdermal magnesium chloride with muscle pain of any sort for the last 7 years. Lately though I have been combining the transdermal magnesium with   lasering for lower back pain as well as just muscle pain as it seems to require less of the magnesium plus complete results seem to be immediate. Evidently the laser causes the magnesium to be absorbed quicker and deeper.
  I plan on trying the laser with CoQ10 too as I find the coQ10 can also be expensive.

          blessings
          Shan

--- In [hidden email], "muii20" <mayflower700@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Shan
>
> Thank you for your infos; sometime ago a lady on rife group has very kindly send me the links & some files on laser which may have cover some same infos of yours. You remind me to explore these methods again  & I think they would be very useful!
>
> I have only tried the lasering the ear for allergy for a friend once; haven't quite experimenting more of that type of technique.
>
> For pain relief, I mostly use CLRT & also lasering directly on problem muscles with quantum wave lasers; but normally I would just try TFT or alphabiotics as they are very quick, several minutes they are all done even for severe pain, if they don't work, I then use CLRT or my big lasers, I have had lots of miracles with these methods; if I have muscle pain myself, I prefer to get my hubby to do chinese cupping on me as I love the sensation of it. As I haven't taken more time to learn & experiment enough into using lasers especially working with meridian points; my methods do not work all the time, I want to use laser more in acupuncture way, but I  have very poor memory in general, & it's very difficult for me to remember accu points; triggers pts anatomy etc. Also my biggest weakness is that if something don't work straight away or have great improvement, I give up very easily & want to try something else. Strangely enough, I find different people with different situation would response to totally different methods & I really have no idea; different method not matter how simple or impossible it is, may work miracles for some persons, on the other hand, there are times I have tried lasering hrs on involved muscles & also on meridians points & CLRT, etc & I just couldn't get any result at all; so I want to explore more different things; but I know I need to take time to learn a subject or technique well in order to have good use of it.
>
> The Lyapko applicator & roller seems to be very simple that doesn't require meridian knowledge & I can just mechanically running the roller on myself or somebody without my brain & attention.
>
> Do you use tesing vials for allergies? How do you use your lasers? I haven't tried the laser spraying method as I don't have testing vials
>
> I hope one day someone would invent a simple lasering method to correct inverted spin which is a major issue with EMF.
>
> blessings
> alice
>
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "bestsurprise2" <surpriseshan2@> wrote:
> >
> >      I  was just wondering if you understood that low level lasers can be used and  are used in place of needles for acupuncture??
> >
> > You might be interested in this article --
> > Biological Effects Of Painless Laser Needle
> > Acupuncture
> > http://www.medicalacupuncture.org/aama_marf/journal/vol16_1/article5.html
> >
> >     In fact, though I have never done acupuncture with needles , my understanding is that it can be quite difficult to do this and be accurate  -- however with low level lasers this is not a problem -- in fact is so much easier that they have found that it can be done at home just as effectively if done using low level lasers.  For me, I have found this a lot cheaper and just as effective.
> >
> >     This video shows how to use the low level laser on the acupuncture points in the ear
> >  Meridian Laser Technique DVD/VIDEO
> > Free download-- download links for Windows & one for Macs - http://www.allergyantidotes.com/Thank_You.html 
> >  
> >   This health professional in this video uses the low level laser and acupuncture points mostly for allergies, sensitivities and blockages but the principles are the same for pain etc too.
> >
> >     I have copied this into a pdf file for easier reading for myself - if you would like it ,send me your email address and I will email it to you.
> >
> >              blessings
> >                 Shan
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Alice,
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > To your question:
> > >
> > > any comment
> > > about these products since they are using metal needles??
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > I read somewhere that metal
> > > needles cause blockages in the body's electrical system.
> > >
> > > My intuition tells me this
> > > is true. Whether its true for everyone, I can't say.
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > But it seems to me, if a
> > > person already has a lot of electrical blockages,
> > >
> > > and they receive some kind
> > > of treatment, using metal needles,
> > >
> > > they'd end up with
> > > "more" blockages.
> > >
> > > There is a member on here, I
> > > think her name is Amanda, who is an Accupunture PRactitioner;
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > I seem to recall her saying
> > > that the needles "they" used, were plastc coated, for the reasons
> > >
> > > I stated above.
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > I'll try to find it the
> > > original source where I first read this, about metal needles causing
> > >
> > > electrical blockages.
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > My own experience has taught
> > > me, that both dirty electricity and emfs from wireless
> > >
> > > radiation, DO cause
> > > electrical blockages. So for me, I have found using Accupressure/
> > >
> > > Reflexology treatments, work
> > > quite well.
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > I found a great book on the
> > > above: "Healing With Pressure Point Therapy" by Jack Forem
> > >
> > > and Steve Shimer.
> > > (amazon.com was where I bought it.)
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > Blessings,
> > >
> > > Lizzie
> > >
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > From: mayflower700@
> > > Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 22:47:35 +0000
> > > Subject: [eSens] is electronic rife device & magnetic pulser  bad for EMF??
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >
> > >    
> > >      
> > >      
> > >       Do anyone here use any rife devices or magnetic pulsers ??
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Are they bad for EMF?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have GB4000 & SR4 device & Sota magnetic pulser; I hardly use them, now especially knowing I have EMF problems because of my easily inverted spin.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > As my rife device can run therapeutic freqs, it's a shame if they induce EMF to the body.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Does anybody use any bio-resonance to help EMF sensitivity?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Also I am interested in trying the Russian Lyapko applicator to help with  balancing meridians, any comment about these products since they are using metal needles??
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.applicatorlyapko.com/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > blessings
> > >
> > > alice
> > >
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Aimee-2
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Thank you Alice.  I just went to the 'soda' website ..... are you sure its legit?  I always like to know where a product is coming from and I always click on Contact Us.  Their phone number is like..... 123456789....... hmmmm.   It might not have gone all the way to 9 but you should check it out.  I also watched some of the video and again I went.... hmmm.
 
just a thought
Aimee

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From: muii20 <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: is electronic rife device & magnetic pulser bad for EMF??
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, August 28, 2012, 12:14 AM


Hiya

I originally want to try the bed of needles mat for relaxation & pain relieve ( I don't have any but want to try for friends who have muscle pain) then I come across the russian applicator & rollers. They are used in hospitals & clinics & have lots of medical awards.

Here I just copied pasted what I saved in my files; it's 7am in morning I haven't slept yet, need to go to bed now.


Tibetan pad    http://www.ecrater.co.uk/p/2884713/tibetan-acupressure-mat-deluxe-kuznetsov?gps=1  £38

---------------------------------------------------
Discussion of facial roller  http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=43058&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0
Non metal facial roller   http://www.sourcingmap.com/pink-roller-beauty-facial-face-massage-tool-with-plastic-handle-p-42894.html
Discussion of High Freq device  http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=43525 


Lyapko Nikolay Grigoryevich Links


http://www.applicatorlyapko.com/gallery.htm#  Ukraine shop & info


http://victressinall.hubpages.com/hub/Safe-and-Natural-Way-To-Relieve-Pain  further links


massage tools how to
http://www.lyapko.ua/en/indications-to-using-masseurs.html

cheaperest Ukraine web site ( I am going to order from this site as their's cheapest price)
https://soda173.com/Lyapko?page=1

talk later
alice



--- In [hidden email], Aimee <ohkanaduh@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Lizzie, but I'm not sure this is what she was talking about.  It's called Lyapko roller from Russia. It has 'needles'  that are beneficial.  On the site I saw there is a phone number and it's in the Ukraine.
> http://www.lyapko.ua/en/using.html
> Maybe I'm just not seeing a cart/order form?
>  
>  
> I think she will have to tell us :)
> Aimee


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muii20
Aimee

I didn't checked the web site as I assumed it is the same seller on EBay; great you checked it, I contacted them asking them to provide me  info of their company. I did come across a no of online web sites which gives no contact address or tel no & I did buy things from them; I am not very careful sometimes. On the other hand, from time to time I heard from TV news some convincing web sites with proper address & tel no have turned out to be fraud, taking money & not sending the products!

If the shipping cost of 1 or 2 rollers is not expensive to; I may take a risk to buy from that site & pay by PayPal.
But of course the safer way (but with higher price) is to buy from ebay seller soda173

blessings
alice

--- In [hidden email], Aimee <ohkanaduh@...> wrote:

>
> Thank you Alice.  I just went to the 'soda' website ..... are you sure its legit?  I always like to know where a product is coming from and I always click on Contact Us.  Their phone number is like..... 123456789....... hmmmm.   It might not have gone all the way to 9 but you should check it out.  I also watched some of the video and again I went.... hmmm.
>  
> just a thought
> Aimee
>
> --- On Tue, 8/28/12, muii20 <mayflower700@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: muii20 <mayflower700@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: is electronic rife device & magnetic pulser bad for EMF??
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Tuesday, August 28, 2012, 12:14 AM
>
>
> Hiya
>
> I originally want to try the bed of needles mat for relaxation & pain relieve ( I don't have any but want to try for friends who have muscle pain) then I come across the russian applicator & rollers. They are used in hospitals & clinics & have lots of medical awards.
>
> Here I just copied pasted what I saved in my files; it's 7am in morning I haven't slept yet, need to go to bed now.
>
>
> Tibetan pad    http://www.ecrater.co.uk/p/2884713/tibetan-acupressure-mat-deluxe-kuznetsov?gps=1  £38
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> Discussion of facial roller  http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=43058&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0
> Non metal facial roller   http://www.sourcingmap.com/pink-roller-beauty-facial-face-massage-tool-with-plastic-handle-p-42894.html
> Discussion of High Freq device  http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=43525 
>
>
> Lyapko Nikolay Grigoryevich Links
>
>
> http://www.applicatorlyapko.com/gallery.htm#  Ukraine shop & info
>
>
> http://victressinall.hubpages.com/hub/Safe-and-Natural-Way-To-Relieve-Pain  further links
>
>
> massage tools how to
> http://www.lyapko.ua/en/indications-to-using-masseurs.html
>
> cheaperest Ukraine web site ( I am going to order from this site as their's cheapest price)
> https://soda173.com/Lyapko?page=1
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> talk later
> alice
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> --- In [hidden email], Aimee <ohkanaduh@> wrote:
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> > Thanks Lizzie, but I'm not sure this is what she was talking about.  It's called Lyapko roller from Russia. It has 'needles'  that are beneficial.  On the site I saw there is a phone number and it's in the Ukraine.
> > http://www.lyapko.ua/en/using.html
> > Maybe I'm just not seeing a cart/order form?
> >  
> >  
> > I think she will have to tell us :)
> > Aimee
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Re: is electronic rife device & magnetic pulser bad for EMF??

muii20
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Shan

You are right vials are not always necessary for lasering, I only watched the video couple of times some time ago. I think the vials are useful for detoxing the body of the substances eg pesticide, msg, etc with laser spraying method, dr Klinghardt & some others use these methods. TFT Thought Field Therapy ( the original method where EFT evolved) would often just have the person thinking of the allergy substance if he/she has eaten or contacted with; otherwise the person do the same in the Sandi's video by holding the substance.

TFT ( &  highest level of TFT is VT, Voice technology) treat emotional trauma but many times I found the pain algorithm is very effective with pain ; it can also be used to temporarily neutralize allergic reaction; & can save lives in life threatening serious allergies; many TFTers use it to treat physical illness as well, it basically unblock energies blockage, but they need to be diagnosed (muscle testing) to find the specific algorithm; many times if properly diagnosed, it work magical & so much faster than acupuncture.

You may want to check out TAT or RR Reflective Repatterning which is the most magical tool for emotional traumas & emotional blockages. very easy to do; I think there's a manual you can download from the founder Chris who's a great friend of mine  :  http://www.chrismilbank.com/ 

Chris is a very creative & intuitive person & he adopts many methods into his own & often has great results; he uses laser, rife, freqs, clrt, VT, & many others. He often told me to work on my meridians if I have inverted spin issue, as any inverted spin in body causes  imbalance in meridians. I am too lack of discipline as even using my big lasers, it will take time to work on this & that meridians points! All the time I try to find easiest laziest method!

CLRT is Cranial Laser reflex technique; google youtube, amazing method for muscle pain relief. I self learnt with the Self study package before I did the course when Dr Wise came to London.
 http://www.clrtechnique.com/

Alphabiotics   http://alphabioticinfo.com/  it's very powerful stuff, realigning the spine, & basically reboot the left & right brains & the nervous system.


Do you  rub or spray magnesium oil to pain areas & then laser the area until pain gone? I used magnesium oil briefly for supplemental use but never combine it with laser for pain relief although I thought of this idea from time to time.

I think one of biggest problem with EMF is that it cause inverted electron spin, once you have the spin, few healing will work as it basically keep doing opposite things to healing. Do you still get back pain from EMF these days? I wonder if you try to either visualizing the purple vortex on the pain area ( or whole body) while you do the lasering to see any further help, in TFT; we would often tap the side of hand 10 times (either left or right hand doesn't matter) before we start any treatment to remove the reversed energy. On cancer area, it is suggested that with one hand touching the cancer area, the other hand will tap the side of hand 10 times ( repeat no of times during the day) to correct reversed energies, they are often shown as actual reversed polarity with a voltmeter in cancer area.  

I do believe you can completely sort out the pain if you can find the source of your pain, as it can be bacteria / infection involve, or just energy blockage, or emotional blockage, or allergy or physical misalignment, all of these have solutions.

Do you think the CoQ10 will help directly on pain area? If it's for general supplement, you may want to try laser spraying with it, in that way you are absorbing in energetic way, some say it's more beneficial & effective this way. I  buy CoQ10 from iherb.com because of cheapest shipping to UK. I get Healthy Origin brand, Kaneka QH Ubiquinol, my friend paid 7 times the price for exactly the same stuff in UK for the Solgar brand.

Chinese cupping is very effective if you can get someone to do your back for you as the back has lots of important points, it draws out toxins, damp, heat, wind, blockages deep in tissue out to the surface, then the body can get rid of them. Chinese doctors often use that, we chinese often do it ourselves even though we know nothing about meridians. The kit is not expensive. I sometimes combine the quasha with cupping. You may want to try it, just get a piece of plastic  ( I use a special stone) to gently rub the skin surface with some oil, like sesame seed oil, or olive oil; it has similar effect as cupping. It takes my hubby a few minutes to place all the cups on my whole back & legs; I relaxed, felt asleep, after 20 minutes, it's done, it's very relaxing!

blessings
alice


--- In [hidden email], "bestsurprise2" <surpriseshan2@...> wrote:

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>    Alice you do not need the vials if you use Sandi Radomski's method of laser spraying the ears. She says that all the acupuncture points are on the ear and when lasering for allergies, sensitivities and blockages those are all the acupuncture points you need. I guess you have not watched Sandi's video/DVD at the url that I sent   http://www.allergyantidotes.com/Thank_You.html  - you don't have to download it if you don't want to - you can just watch it on the internet. She does not use vials, in her video/DVD anyhow - you can just hold the item that one is sensitive or allergic to in 'your energy field'.
>    When I posted the url to that video I posted it as a free download as most people I have discussed this treatment with wanted to download the video for easy access.
>
>    What does CLRT stand for? and what is "TFT or alphabiotics" ?
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>     I don't know how I would have coped without using the lasers for pain last fall & winter when I became sensitized to microwave radiation - the pain has been terrible. I have had MCS since 1988 and have never had pain even close to that I frequently experienced from microwave radiation. And unfortunately I had no knowledge that  sensitivities caused by frequencies caused pain - not that more knowledge would have stopped the pain but at least I would have been more prepared.
>
>      I have never tried the cupping but have read about it - it certainly sounds as if it would be effective.
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>   Actually I know very little about meridians too - even after watching Sandi's video a few times and reading her book of the same name ,  I still am no more enlightened. In both her video and her book she uses only the acupuncture points in the ears, hands, & feet which she makes use of  with what she calls "laser spraying". Though in her book she does refer to EFT statements a few times as this can be used with the laser spraying and acupuncture points especially for persistent blockages.
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>    In the past I have not even tried to use lasers on muscles as I always have had easy success and great results using  transdermal magnesium chloride with muscle pain of any sort for the last 7 years. Lately though I have been combining the transdermal magnesium with   lasering for lower back pain as well as just muscle pain as it seems to require less of the magnesium plus complete results seem to be immediate. Evidently the laser causes the magnesium to be absorbed quicker and deeper.
>   I plan on trying the laser with CoQ10 too as I find the coQ10 can also be expensive.
>
>           blessings
>           Shan
>
> --- In [hidden email], "muii20" <mayflower700@> wrote:
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> > Hi Shan
> >
> > Thank you for your infos; sometime ago a lady on rife group has very kindly send me the links & some files on laser which may have cover some same infos of yours. You remind me to explore these methods again  & I think they would be very useful!
> >
> > I have only tried the lasering the ear for allergy for a friend once; haven't quite experimenting more of that type of technique.
> >
> > For pain relief, I mostly use CLRT & also lasering directly on problem muscles with quantum wave lasers; but normally I would just try TFT or alphabiotics as they are very quick, several minutes they are all done even for severe pain, if they don't work, I then use CLRT or my big lasers, I have had lots of miracles with these methods; if I have muscle pain myself, I prefer to get my hubby to do chinese cupping on me as I love the sensation of it. As I haven't taken more time to learn & experiment enough into using lasers especially working with meridian points; my methods do not work all the time, I want to use laser more in acupuncture way, but I  have very poor memory in general, & it's very difficult for me to remember accu points; triggers pts anatomy etc. Also my biggest weakness is that if something don't work straight away or have great improvement, I give up very easily & want to try something else. Strangely enough, I find different people with different situation would response to totally different methods & I really have no idea; different method not matter how simple or impossible it is, may work miracles for some persons, on the other hand, there are times I have tried lasering hrs on involved muscles & also on meridians points & CLRT, etc & I just couldn't get any result at all; so I want to explore more different things; but I know I need to take time to learn a subject or technique well in order to have good use of it.
> >
> > The Lyapko applicator & roller seems to be very simple that doesn't require meridian knowledge & I can just mechanically running the roller on myself or somebody without my brain & attention.
> >
> > Do you use tesing vials for allergies? How do you use your lasers? I haven't tried the laser spraying method as I don't have testing vials
> >
> > I hope one day someone would invent a simple lasering method to correct inverted spin which is a major issue with EMF.
> >
> > blessings
> > alice
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "bestsurprise2" <surpriseshan2@> wrote:
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> > >      I  was just wondering if you understood that low level lasers can be used and  are used in place of needles for acupuncture??
> > >
> > > You might be interested in this article --
> > > Biological Effects Of Painless Laser Needle
> > > Acupuncture
> > > http://www.medicalacupuncture.org/aama_marf/journal/vol16_1/article5.html
> > >
> > >     In fact, though I have never done acupuncture with needles , my understanding is that it can be quite difficult to do this and be accurate  -- however with low level lasers this is not a problem -- in fact is so much easier that they have found that it can be done at home just as effectively if done using low level lasers.  For me, I have found this a lot cheaper and just as effective.
> > >
> > >     This video shows how to use the low level laser on the acupuncture points in the ear
> > >  Meridian Laser Technique DVD/VIDEO
> > > Free download-- download links for Windows & one for Macs - http://www.allergyantidotes.com/Thank_You.html 
> > >  
> > >   This health professional in this video uses the low level laser and acupuncture points mostly for allergies, sensitivities and blockages but the principles are the same for pain etc too.
> > >
> > >     I have copied this into a pdf file for easier reading for myself - if you would like it ,send me your email address and I will email it to you.
> > >
> > >              blessings
> > >                 Shan
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> > > > Hi Alice,
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> > > >  
> > > >
> > > > To your question:
> > > >
> > > > any comment
> > > > about these products since they are using metal needles??
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > > I read somewhere that metal
> > > > needles cause blockages in the body's electrical system.
> > > >
> > > > My intuition tells me this
> > > > is true. Whether its true for everyone, I can't say.
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > > But it seems to me, if a
> > > > person already has a lot of electrical blockages,
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> > > > and they receive some kind
> > > > of treatment, using metal needles,
> > > >
> > > > they'd end up with
> > > > "more" blockages.
> > > >
> > > > There is a member on here, I
> > > > think her name is Amanda, who is an Accupunture PRactitioner;
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > > I seem to recall her saying
> > > > that the needles "they" used, were plastc coated, for the reasons
> > > >
> > > > I stated above.
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > > I'll try to find it the
> > > > original source where I first read this, about metal needles causing
> > > >
> > > > electrical blockages.
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > > My own experience has taught
> > > > me, that both dirty electricity and emfs from wireless
> > > >
> > > > radiation, DO cause
> > > > electrical blockages. So for me, I have found using Accupressure/
> > > >
> > > > Reflexology treatments, work
> > > > quite well.
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > > I found a great book on the
> > > > above: "Healing With Pressure Point Therapy" by Jack Forem
> > > >
> > > > and Steve Shimer.
> > > > (amazon.com was where I bought it.)
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > > Blessings,
> > > >
> > > > Lizzie
> > > >
> > > > To: [hidden email]
> > > > From: mayflower700@
> > > > Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 22:47:35 +0000
> > > > Subject: [eSens] is electronic rife device & magnetic pulser  bad for EMF??
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> > > >       Do anyone here use any rife devices or magnetic pulsers ??
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> > > > Are they bad for EMF?
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> > > > I have GB4000 & SR4 device & Sota magnetic pulser; I hardly use them, now especially knowing I have EMF problems because of my easily inverted spin.
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> > > > As my rife device can run therapeutic freqs, it's a shame if they induce EMF to the body.
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> > > > Does anybody use any bio-resonance to help EMF sensitivity?
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> > > > Also I am interested in trying the Russian Lyapko applicator to help with  balancing meridians, any comment about these products since they are using metal needles??
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> > > > http://www.applicatorlyapko.com/
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Re: is electronic rife device & magnetic pulser bad for EMF??

kikkie2004-2
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HI Alice

I had a GB4000, a zapper and a Godzilla blood electrifier,
I sold them all after becoming ES - and I very
much believe they contributed to my ES.
I met another lady who was rifing for hours every day
and became very, very ES shortly after.
I also read about another person becoming ES after rife therapy
on the internet.
So whilst some here say they're good and not a EMF
problem, I disagree.
Thanks
K


--- In [hidden email], "muii20" <mayflower700@...> wrote:

>
> Do anyone here use any rife devices or magnetic pulsers ??
>
> Are they bad for EMF?
>
> I have GB4000 & SR4 device & Sota magnetic pulser; I hardly use them, now especially knowing I have EMF problems because of my easily inverted spin.
>
> As my rife device can run therapeutic freqs, it's a shame if they induce EMF to the body.
>
> Does anybody use any bio-resonance to help EMF sensitivity?
>
> Also I am interested in trying the Russian Lyapko applicator to help with  balancing meridians, any comment about these products since they are using metal needles??
>
> http://www.applicatorlyapko.com/
>
>
> blessings
> alice
>