how meditation etc. helps ES

The more stressed one is, the less skin resistance one has. The more
relaxed one is, the higher skin resistance one has. This means that
meditation or any technique or practice that helps one be more relaxed definitely
reduces the ability of electricity to pass into that person.
"Lie detectors" work because of this. When a person lies they are a
bit more stressed, and more current runs through them from the monitoring
equipment.
Conversely, exposure to RF creates stress, which then allows more
current to enter the body, in a downward spiral. I have a small Galvanic Skin
Response meter that Dave Stetzer made for me. If I take a shower upstsairs with
the power off, my GSR is unchanged before/after. If I take a shower with
the power on, there is current in our water and my GSR level goes from 5 before
to .6 after! This is a dismal level. 3 shows quite a bit of stress
already. (Our downstairs bathroom has current in the water even with the main off.
Just mentioning that so no one will presume that main off necessarily takes
care of this problem.)
The more ES people are exposed or stressed, the more sensitive they will
be. Meditation and other techniques that lead to relaxation are definitely
useful!

Shivani



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Thanks Shivani. Meditation does seem to help with my husband's ES
(for no apparent faith-based reason in our case) *and* my husband's
ES is always much worse after a shower (takes at least 30 minutes to
recover). Yours is as good an explanation for both phenomena as any
I've come across. I realize turning the power circuits off may not
consistently make a difference in the case of showering, but it may
be worth experimenting. I'll report back with our results.

Cara

--- In [hidden email], SArjuna@a... wrote:
> The more stressed one is, the less skin resistance one has.
The more
> relaxed one is, the higher skin resistance one has. This means
that
> meditation or any technique or practice that helps one be more
relaxed definitely
> reduces the ability of electricity to pass into that person.
> "Lie detectors" work because of this. When a person lies
they are a
> bit more stressed, and more current runs through them from the
monitoring
> equipment.
> Conversely, exposure to RF creates stress, which then allows
more
> current to enter the body, in a downward spiral. I have a small
Galvanic Skin
> Response meter that Dave Stetzer made for me. If I take a shower
upstsairs with
> the power off, my GSR is unchanged before/after. If I take a
shower with
> the power on, there is current in our water and my GSR level goes
from 5 before
> to .6 after! This is a dismal level. 3 shows quite a bit of
stress
> already. (Our downstairs bathroom has current in the water even
with the main off.
> Just mentioning that so no one will presume that main off
necessarily takes
> care of this problem.)
> The more ES people are exposed or stressed, the more sensitive
they will
> be. Meditation and other techniques that lead to relaxation are
definitely
> useful!
>
> Shivani
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Maybe skin resistance goes up through meditation. For some reason I am really taken with the line 'THERE IS NO METAPHYSICS, THERE IS ONLY PHYSICS' .So yeah there are gonna be processes that can be analized by science.. When you operate from the Heart Chakra instead of being ruled by the ego-mind you will have no more toxic thoughts that could make you sick.

Why meditation works in my opinion. It shuts up the mind and the ego has no place in meditation.. Not thinking is step one. Shift to the Heart will set you free. I feel this is true, the moment I slay the dragon of the ego-mind I will be free, and I already have been face to face with that dragon. I think the health angel of Amsterdam has the same theories, the tachyon people think along these lines, this is also the Toltec philosophy (not a religion) and the basis for all religions (and I blamed Don Miguel Ruizes the four agreements for this condition I am in, but probably just pick up the sequel, The Path of Love. You probably wondered why I mention the candles I bought in Panama, they depicted a couple of Saints, well Jesus and Mary, and they depicted them with open Hearts. This is the goal Breath in Love, breath out Love, open chakra nr 13, in front of you at heart level, so Heart chakra is Green and Pink. Ask for the impediments to be removed and it will come to pass). Love will
help you out of this, someone told me. This I now feel to be true. Uncondional Love is the answer to any question.

Many kundalites analize their problems as due to a mind-body imbalance. I think most of us here are close to opening that Heart chakra, making that shift to the heart is hard and that our ego and the part of the mind that is its tool do everything they can to prevent this. I am gonna give a link for those who are not afraid of the word God (rather I will send it to who wants it, just ask me) and I guess other people that are still reading could check out the Health Angel, that i believe manages this theory without too much religious aaahh something rather.

I do not think meditation is a requirement to get free and you can go snorkeling or diving and get in the state, or gardening everything can become meditation... It does help me, not sure about skin resisistance, it helps me to gain personal power I need to fight my second mind. I will slay it and make it work for me, not againsts me anymore. In my opinion this IS necesarry. Stalk your thoughts, check your mind and still it. "Look ego, you had your time, now it is my turn". So yeah i think it is mental, the universe is mental. But not in the way the shrink or society sees it, they can come tell me that when they have slain their dragon. And yeah the lie detector analogy, yes, there must be something I still lie to myself about, although i strive to be impeccable, and the ego still likes to put doubt in my mind. But I will make that shift to my Heart. So yeah only the goal of Life to fulfill, makes it less of a waste of time..

Love and Light


Cara <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks Shivani. Meditation does seem to help with my husband's ES
(for no apparent faith-based reason in our case) *and* my husband's
ES is always much worse after a shower (takes at least 30 minutes to
recover). Yours is as good an explanation for both phenomena as any
I've come across. I realize turning the power circuits off may not
consistently make a difference in the case of showering, but it may
be worth experimenting. I'll report back with our results.

Cara

--- In [hidden email], SArjuna@a... wrote:
> The more stressed one is, the less skin resistance one has.
The more
> relaxed one is, the higher skin resistance one has. This means
that
> meditation or any technique or practice that helps one be more
relaxed definitely
> reduces the ability of electricity to pass into that person.
> "Lie detectors" work because of this. When a person lies
they are a
> bit more stressed, and more current runs through them from the
monitoring
> equipment.
> Conversely, exposure to RF creates stress, which then allows
more
> current to enter the body, in a downward spiral. I have a small
Galvanic Skin
> Response meter that Dave Stetzer made for me. If I take a shower
upstsairs with
> the power off, my GSR is unchanged before/after. If I take a
shower with
> the power on, there is current in our water and my GSR level goes
from 5 before
> to .6 after! This is a dismal level. 3 shows quite a bit of
stress
> already. (Our downstairs bathroom has current in the water even
with the main off.
> Just mentioning that so no one will presume that main off
necessarily takes
> care of this problem.)
> The more ES people are exposed or stressed, the more sensitive
they will
> be. Meditation and other techniques that lead to relaxation are
definitely
> useful!
>
> Shivani
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





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Thanks for your advice ,

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"Meditation and other techniques that lead to relaxation are definitely
useful!"

Yes - I always feel better after a glass of red wine! :-)

Cheers
Pete

shivaram aluri wrote:

Yeah, pete, so do I, less worry and ego-stuff more heart.

By the way there is more than us and epileptics, there is the 'other' illnesses classiefied as mental as well including parkinson s disease. Have been observing a friend with that one for a while and the other day on a trip to the city and his symptoms occur worse were mine are!!!! (kundalini-related diseases if you aske me, but that s another story)

Love

pete <[hidden email]> wrote:
"Meditation and other techniques that lead to relaxation are definitely
useful!"

Yes - I always feel better after a glass of red wine! :-)

Cheers
Pete

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I'm replying on this old message from Shivani, because I think the topic isstill up-to-date ;-)

It's an example on how biofeedback-tools can give you a better view on whatgets you better and what gets you worse...

Actually I have the same thing, after a shower I feel EMF I normally don't feel... Maybe showering with fuse box off will help here too...

Stephen.




--- In [hidden email], SArjuna@... wrote:

Hi, Stephen,
 
Only a few minutes here, so this was an easy post to answer.  You write:
 
"after a shower I feel EMF I normally don't feel... Maybe showering with fuse box off will help here too..."
 
I sometimes feel downright electric--full of static--after a shower.  Showering (or bathing)breaks bonds between positive and negative ions and therefore leaves spaces for new ions to attach to.  That is most likelywhy we feel like we are picking up dirt or frequencies after a shower or bath.  Something is going to be attracted to those spaces no matter what you do; it is just how life works.  But perhaps you *can* choose your atmospheric "dirt" better so that what is attracted is more natural.  (Shutting off your fuse box might helpaccomplish this, tho I had never thought of it till you mentioned it, Stephen!)
 
I love going out in nature after a bath--and that might be why.  And often just getting there I feel bombarded by crap.  But I think the water mist off of the waterfall and moist rocks and freshness of the trees cleanses me again and then I pick up new ions there which I like better.  Experiment and see if this works for you sometime, Stephen.  I think this is also why some days I am worse than others when I am reacting to ES--I just have more ions free to attract frequencies.
 
My 2 cents, for what it is worth,
Diane


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From: stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: how meditation etc. helps ES
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Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 11:08 PM


 



I'm replying on this old message from Shivani, because I think the topic isstill up-to-date ;-)

It's an example on how biofeedback-tools can give you a better view on whatgets you better and what gets you worse...

Actually I have the same thing, after a shower I feel EMF I normally don't feel... Maybe showering with fuse box off will help here too...

Stephen.

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