how did you get your EMS diagnosis?

I was just wondering how you people have found out that EMS is what
makes you so sick. Are there any people who got this diagnosis from a
mainstream doctor? Or were you told by an alternative healer? Or did you
diagnose yourself (like I did), after all other doctors said you were
perfectly healthy?
Just wondering.

Cheers,
Rixta

Well, it's not really an officially-recognized condition, so
I doubt there are many doctors around who would be willing to
diagnose it.  I self-diagnosed myself after eliminating
all of the more commonly known conditions.  It's pretty
simple, really -- if you react to a computer, a laptop,
a TV, a telephone, florescent lights, and power lines
in the middle of nowhere, but are fine at a park or
at the beach, then that's EMF sensitivity!

Marc

On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:02:12 +1100, "Rixta Francis" <[hidden email]> said:
> I was just wondering how you people have found out that EMS is what
> makes you so sick. Are there any people who got this diagnosis from a
> mainstream doctor? Or were you told by an alternative healer? Or did you
> diagnose yourself (like I did), after all other doctors said you were
> perfectly healthy?
> Just wondering.
>
> Cheers,
> Rixta

 
I diagnoses myself after many docs told me I needed psychiatric help. Husband put me in the psychiatric hospital too. I thought ok the psychiatrists will see that I am not crazy & validate what I am saying. Not even close. Labeled me delusional & have been fighting the stigma ever since.
 I didn't understand it until a friend with CHS (MCS) hooked me up with a friend of hers that also had EHS. She pointed out that it could be electrical. I was in this new house & removed all chemicals. Had no mold.  I was so distraught because I didn't know what I was reacting to.
 
Had a Building Biologist come to the house & tested the house & told me of all the cell antennas I could see from my back window only about a quarter of a mile away. Not even. At the high school.  Said the RF was 1,000 times higher than a body should be absorbing.
 
In a nutshell!  Loni
 
 


--- On Mon, 11/29/10, Rixta Francis <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Rixta Francis <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] how did you get your EMS diagnosis?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, November 29, 2010, 6:02 PM


 



I was just wondering how you people have found out that EMS is what
makes you so sick. Are there any people who got this diagnosis from a
mainstream doctor? Or were you told by an alternative healer? Or did you
diagnose yourself (like I did), after all other doctors said you were
perfectly healthy?
Just wondering.

Cheers,
Rixta








     

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A neurologist I saw also wanted to send me to a psychiatrist. I would
have given it a try if that psychiatrist was close by. But it was more
than 20 miles from here, too far for me to drive anyway. Not that I
thought I needed a psychiatrist. With hindsight I'm glad I didn't go,
for just as you I might have been diagnosed with all kinds of things
that just aren't true. And you never get rid of that stigma.

Rixta
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Yes it was best you didn't go. Wish I hadn't. Stuck with lots of old friends (aquaintances really) looking at me like I have 3 heads. Really am sick of it all. Loni

--- On Mon, 11/29/10, Rixta Francis <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Rixta Francis <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] how did you get your EMS diagnosis?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, November 29, 2010, 7:35 PM


 



A neurologist I saw also wanted to send me to a psychiatrist. I would
have given it a try if that psychiatrist was close by. But it was more
than 20 miles from here, too far for me to drive anyway. Not that I
thought I needed a psychiatrist. With hindsight I'm glad I didn't go,
for just as you I might have been diagnosed with all kinds of things
that just aren't true. And you never get rid of that stigma.

Rixta
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It took me a while to figure out I was ES...

At my first job I did notice I always had a lot of stress, I thought well that's normal, you want to do well... In the evening when most people had left and shut off their pc I started feeling better, I thought well Stephen you're more relaxed with less people around you...

Then one day in the morning, suddenly electricity went off in the entire office building for at least 30 minutes, and immediately I felt much better/relaxed in the same location and with the colleagues I normally was stressed with! That made me think a bit.

One year later, I had to move out of my house (I moved to the city close to the police). I'm still not sure I got sick there because of paint or because of emf (from the police closeby).

Later I was noticing differences I was better on some places... And it was only then that I started googling on something I almost had never heard of sth like electrical sensitivity...

When 3G was launched it was pretty obvious I got even sick when driving in the Netherlands for a short while, immediately feeling better here in Belgium...

With bio-resonance and kinesiology tests my ES was also confirmed later...

I can imagine if you're less ES then it will take you longer to find out you're ES... Well we're all ES in some degree...

I guess at first you don't want to know it, you're in denial, I think our mind is "too powerful" to give in that our health could be harmed by sth ridiculous as emf!

Stephen.



--- In [hidden email], Rixta Francis <rixta.francis@...> wrote:

Psychiatrists, yes well they can find and explain anything if they start digging!

Neurologists are very busy here in Belgium. I think some of them are happy to send you to psychiatrists to take off the workload... There was sth on the tv (ES documentary) about so many people recently going to neurologists with migraine, tinnitis,... I'm certain this is at least partially caused because of more and more emf...

Stephen.



--- In [hidden email], Rixta Francis <rixta.francis@...> wrote:

My story is a long one so I will make it as short as possible. I first was sick with ES 20 years ago when so little was said about it. I started looking more and more at the power tower that was only 30 yards from my house and began wondering if that had anything to do with all my strange symptoms that I was suffering. I was in denial at first as I really didn't want to have to move in order to feel better. Everyone back then just thought I was nuts to think that power lines could harm you. Finally about 10 years ago I discovered the book by Lucienda Grant that described this strange illness that I had as "Electrical Sensitivity" That was the turning point. I could hardly put the book down. I had all the strange symptoms she described! It became clear to me why I felt better while at work at a very stressful job than I did in my own home! Now the puzzle was solved!

I enjoyed reading other shares on this topic. Interesting one.

Thanks,

Cheryl

--- On Mon, 11/29/10, Rixta Francis <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Rixta Francis <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] how did you get your EMS diagnosis?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, November 29, 2010, 5:02 PM







 



 


   
     
     
      I was just wondering how you people have found out that EMS is what

makes you so sick. Are there any people who got this diagnosis from a

mainstream doctor? Or were you told by an alternative healer? Or did you

diagnose yourself (like I did), after all other doctors said you were

perfectly healthy?

Just wondering.



Cheers,

Rixta



   
     

   
   


 



 






     

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So 3G is strength & the it technology keeps adding strength like then 4G. Loni

--- On Mon, 11/29/10, stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: how did you get your EMS diagnosis?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, November 29, 2010, 9:59 PM


 



It took me a while to figure out I was ES...

At my first job I did notice I always had a lot of stress, I thought well that's normal, you want to do well... In the evening when most people had left and shut off their pc I started feeling better, I thought well Stephen you're more relaxed with less people around you...

Then one day in the morning, suddenly electricity went off in the entire office building for at least 30 minutes, and immediately I felt much better/relaxed in the same location and with the colleagues I normally was stressed with! That made me think a bit.

One year later, I had to move out of my house (I moved to the city close to the police). I'm still not sure I got sick there because of paint or because of emf (from the police closeby).

Later I was noticing differences I was better on some places... And it was only then that I started googling on something I almost had never heard of sth like electrical sensitivity...

When 3G was launched it was pretty obvious I got even sick when driving in the Netherlands for a short while, immediately feeling better here in Belgium...

With bio-resonance and kinesiology tests my ES was also confirmed later...

I can imagine if you're less ES then it will take you longer to find out you're ES... Well we're all ES in some degree...

I guess at first you don't want to know it, you're in denial, I think our mind is "too powerful" to give in that our health could be harmed by sth ridiculous as emf!

Stephen.

--- In [hidden email], Rixta Francis <rixta.francis@...> wrote:








     

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That's so interesting that you immediately connected the power lines with your health. It took me sooooo long to figure things out it seems. Loni

--- On Mon, 11/29/10, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] how did you get your EMS diagnosis?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, November 29, 2010, 11:57 PM


 



My story is a long one so I will make it as short as possible. I first was sick with ES 20 years ago when so little was said about it. I started looking more and more at the power tower that was only 30 yards from my house and began wondering if that had anything to do with all my strange symptoms that I was suffering. I was in denial at first as I really didn't want to have to move in order to feel better. Everyone back then just thought I was nuts to think that power lines could harm you. Finally about 10 years ago I discovered the book by Lucienda Grant that described this strange illness that I had as "Electrical Sensitivity" That was the turning point. I could hardly put the book down. I had all the strange symptoms she described! It became clear to me why I felt better while at work at a very stressful job than I did in my own home! Now the puzzle was solved!

I enjoyed reading other shares on this topic. Interesting one.

Thanks,

Cheryl

--- On Mon, 11/29/10, Rixta Francis <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Rixta Francis <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] how did you get your EMS diagnosis?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, November 29, 2010, 5:02 PM

 

I was just wondering how you people have found out that EMS is what

makes you so sick. Are there any people who got this diagnosis from a

mainstream doctor? Or were you told by an alternative healer? Or did you

diagnose yourself (like I did), after all other doctors said you were

perfectly healthy?

Just wondering.

Cheers,

Rixta

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> That's so interesting that you immediately connected the power lines with
> your health. It took me sooooo long to figure things out it seems.

Immediately?  Sounds like it took 10 years...

With me it took about 6 months to figure out I was reacting to
computers, and then another 6 months to learn that the
condition had a name (Electrical Sensitivity)

Marc

I didn't react to anything specific, which made it very hard to find out
why I got so sick. I think that I get sick much more of RF than
electricity. But I'm still in the stage that I'm trying to figure out
the details. But I don't notice any more symptoms when I'm at the
computer or cooking at the electric stove. Still grounding myself makes
a difference, so electricity does play a role in it.
I had never heard of EMS, but searched the Internet for many hours to
find something that explained all the physical problems I had. EMS not
only matched all the symptoms, but also the time line. It just can't be
anything else. Now I still need to find things that help protecting me.

Rixta
--
Our website: http://members.westnet.com.au/rixta.francis

> Then one day in the morning, suddenly electricity went off in the entire
> office building for at least 30 minutes, and immediately I felt much
> better/relaxed in the same location and with the colleagues I normally
> was stressed with! That made me think a bit.

Yes, I've the power go out at work too -- feels great!

I already knew I was ES at that point, so feeling great didn't
surprise me.  :-)

Marc

That is correct - it did take me almost 10 years to figure it all out. I feel so dumb looking back but back then there was so little info on this and I didn't have internet access. I didn't want to believe that it was the power lines that were causing it. However, once I admitted it it gave me new hope. I figured if I moved I would get better.

Cheryl

--- On Tue, 11/30/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] how did you get your EMS diagnosis?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 10:59 AM







 



 


   
     
     
      > That's so interesting that you immediately connected the power lines with

> your health. It took me sooooo long to figure things out it seems.



Immediately?  Sounds like it took 10 years...



With me it took about 6 months to figure out I was reacting to

computers, and then another 6 months to learn that the

condition had a name (Electrical Sensitivity)



Marc



   
     

   
   


 



 






     

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That is so interesting because several years ago I suddenly felt 100% better for about 2-3 days. I thought that I was "cured". We did have power at the house. However, it is possible that for those 2-3 days the power tower near my home wasn't generating electricity for some reason and that it was being re-routed. Any thoughts on this? Has anyone else experienced sudden relief without any obvious explanation? Curious...

Cheryl

--- On Tue, 11/30/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

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Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: how did you get your EMS diagnosis?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 11:38 AM







 



 


   
     
     
      > Then one day in the morning, suddenly electricity went off in the entire

> office building for at least 30 minutes, and immediately I felt much

> better/relaxed in the same location and with the colleagues I normally

> was stressed with! That made me think a bit.



Yes, I've the power go out at work too -- feels great!



I already knew I was ES at that point, so feeling great didn't

surprise me.  :-)



Marc



   
     

   
   


 



 






     

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You are probably not the only person who suffered that long before
finding out what's the problem. I attributed many of my symptoms to my
CFS for several years. Till I got such bad muscle spasms that I couldn't
deny any longer that there was something else going on. Then it still
took me about a year of many tests and many doctors' visits before I
started to search on line and found what I needed to know. Still it
seems that my body reacts quite differently to these things than with
most of you. It seems that one of the first symptoms is ususally
headache, but I rarely have a headache... But my body has always done
things differently. I'm a doctor's nightmare, because my body doesn't
make any sense.

Rixta
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Our website: http://members.westnet.com.au/rixta.francis

Hi Rixta,

Actually, like you, I am not one to have headaches. My head does feel funny after being on the computer for a long time. But this just started recently and it isn't really a headache. My first symptom was non-stop, severe colds for the first 1 1/2 years I was sick with ES. This was no doubt due to a comprised immune system from metal poisoning which I later discovered that I had. But I couldn't figure out why I had this.

I can sure relate to what you said about having a body that does things differently!

Thanks for your response.

Cheryl 

--- On Tue, 11/30/10, Rixta Francis <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Rixta Francis <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] how did you get your EMS diagnosis?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 1:03 PM







 



 


   
     
     
      You are probably not the only person who suffered that long before

finding out what's the problem. I attributed many of my symptoms to my

CFS for several years. Till I got such bad muscle spasms that I couldn't

deny any longer that there was something else going on. Then it still

took me about a year of many tests and many doctors' visits before I

started to search on line and found what I needed to know. Still it

seems that my body reacts quite differently to these things than with

most of you. It seems that one of the first symptoms is ususally

headache, but I rarely have a headache... But my body has always done

things differently. I'm a doctor's nightmare, because my body doesn't

make any sense.



Rixta

> That is correct - it did take me almost 10 years to figure it all out. I feel so dumb looking back but back then there was so little info on this and I didn't have internet access. I didn't want to believe that it was the power lines that were causing it. However, once I admitted it it gave me new hope. I figured if I moved I would get better.

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> Cheryl

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Hi, Cheryl,
 
I had sudden relief once after lightning struck nearby.  That lasted several days.  My guess was the lightning hit and knocked out something local that bothers me.  I have also had sudden relief when the power has gone out.
 
Diane

--- On Tue, 11/30/10, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: how did you get your EMS diagnosis?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 3:19 PM


 



That is so interesting because several years ago I suddenly felt 100% better for about 2-3 days. I thought that I was "cured". We did have power at the house. However, it is possible that for those 2-3 days the power tower near my home wasn't generating electricity for some reason and that it was being re-routed. Any thoughts on this? Has anyone else experienced sudden relief without any obvious explanation? Curious...

Cheryl

--- On Tue, 11/30/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: how did you get your EMS diagnosis?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 11:38 AM

 

> Then one day in the morning, suddenly electricity went off in the entire

> office building for at least 30 minutes, and immediately I felt much

> better/relaxed in the same location and with the colleagues I normally

> was stressed with! That made me think a bit.

Yes, I've the power go out at work too -- feels great!

I already knew I was ES at that point, so feeling great didn't

surprise me. :-)

Marc

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Hi Diane,

Wow, that is so interesting about the lightening! Thanks for sharing.

I haven't noticed the sudden relief when power has gone out as you and others mentioned.
I thought I would but I can't honestly say I have. Strange how we are all so different in our symptoms and reactions.

Cheryl

--- On Tue, 11/30/10, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Evie <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: how did you get your EMS diagnosis?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 11:05 PM







 



 


   
     
     
      Hi, Cheryl,

 

I had sudden relief once after lightning struck nearby.  That lasted several days.  My guess was the lightning hit and knocked out something local that bothers me.  I have also had sudden relief when the power has gone out.

 

Diane



--- On Tue, 11/30/10, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote:



From: Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: how did you get your EMS diagnosis?

To: [hidden email]

Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 3:19 PM



 



That is so interesting because several years ago I suddenly felt 100% better for about 2-3 days. I thought that I was "cured". We did have power at the house. However, it is possible that for those 2-3 days the power tower near my home wasn't generating electricity for some reason and that it was being re-routed. Any thoughts on this? Has anyone else experienced sudden relief without any obvious explanation? Curious...



Cheryl



--- On Tue, 11/30/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:



From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>

Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: how did you get your EMS diagnosis?

To: [hidden email]

Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 11:38 AM



 



> Then one day in the morning, suddenly electricity went off in the entire



> office building for at least 30 minutes, and immediately I felt much



> better/relaxed in the same location and with the colleagues I normally



> was stressed with! That made me think a bit.



Yes, I've the power go out at work too -- feels great!



I already knew I was ES at that point, so feeling great didn't



surprise me. :-)



Marc



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I was able to go to my daughter's graduation last year with all the cell antennas at the school & next door lilbrary. But it was raining & I think it had something to do with it.
 
Might not be so lucky for my son's next May. Loni

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From: Evie <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: how did you get your EMS diagnosis?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, December 1, 2010, 12:05 AM


 



Hi, Cheryl,
 
I had sudden relief once after lightning struck nearby.  That lasted several days.  My guess was the lightning hit and knocked out something local that bothers me.  I have also had sudden relief when the power has gone out.
 
Diane

--- On Tue, 11/30/10, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: how did you get your EMS diagnosis?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 3:19 PM

 

That is so interesting because several years ago I suddenly felt 100% better for about 2-3 days. I thought that I was "cured". We did have power at the house. However, it is possible that for those 2-3 days the power tower near my home wasn't generating electricity for some reason and that it was being re-routed. Any thoughts on this? Has anyone else experienced sudden relief without any obvious explanation? Curious...

Cheryl

--- On Tue, 11/30/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: how did you get your EMS diagnosis?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 11:38 AM

 

> Then one day in the morning, suddenly electricity went off in the entire

> office building for at least 30 minutes, and immediately I felt much

> better/relaxed in the same location and with the colleagues I normally

> was stressed with! That made me think a bit.

Yes, I've the power go out at work too -- feels great!

I already knew I was ES at that point, so feeling great didn't

surprise me. :-)

Marc

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