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PUK
Yesterday I was in town in a Subway sandwhich shop, now I am weary that  
they use microwaves to heat the food, but I keep well back from the counter,
but  yesterday all was fine I turned to leave the shop and as I did my heart
went  into what I would call fibrilation/arythmia (nearly 2 minutes)and I
felt  all drained and tired all of a sudden, within the seconds that I
realized this  was happening a young man is walking toward me with his smart phone
held infront  of him (he was approx 1meter by this time) he was looking at
the  screen.  This has happened to me before and same thing someone coming  
toward me with and active smart phone - I wonder wether as they walk toward
me  the near felid plume on the mobile hits me but has added peculiar results
due to  them moving - what ever the cause that IS AN ASSUALT on my life I
should  threaten to sue the person for assualt, but in the real world !!
 
puk

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Elizabeth thode

 Totally agree. It is assault.I did find using a pure therapeutic grade Lavender essential oil, 2 dropson my daughter's heart, helped her with this very same heart symptom.Very scary though! Collateral Damage: Speaking Out Against Wireless Harm www.emfnews.org/Collateral-Damage-Speaking-Out-Against-Wireles...
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      Yesterday I was in town in a Subway sandwhich shop, now I am weary that  

they use microwaves to heat the food, but I keep well back from the counter,

but  yesterday all was fine I turned to leave the shop and as I did my heart

went  into what I would call fibrilation/arythmia (nearly 2 minutes)and I

felt  all drained and tired all of a sudden, within the seconds that I

realized this  was happening a young man is walking toward me with his smart phone

held infront  of him (he was approx 1meter by this time) he was looking at

the  screen.  This has happened to me before and same thing someone coming  

toward me with and active smart phone - I wonder wether as they walk toward

me  the near felid plume on the mobile hits me but has added peculiar results

due to  them moving - what ever the cause that IS AN ASSUALT on my life I

should  threaten to sue the person for assualt, but in the real world !!

 

puk



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Auntie Patricia
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fascinating.  my roommate has an iPhone and i ordered
a land line so that he doesn't have to use the iPhone
here, since i could feel it as cramps in my ankles and legs.  

i have wondered if many heart attacks might be the
body's response to intense EMF.  

i went to the utility company board meeting here and only
one board member showed any concern about smart
meters.  when we pointed out that they don't allow cell
phones on heart wards in hospitals, he GOT it because he
had major heart surgery.  he looked VERY worried when
he realized that smart meters were like using cell phones
EVERYWHERE - and he would be in danger EVERYWHERE.  

patricia  


On Oct 12, 2012, at 4:03 AM, [hidden email] wrote:

> Yesterday I was in town in a Subway sandwhich shop, now I am weary that  
> they use microwaves to heat the food, but I keep well back from the counter,
> but  yesterday all was fine I turned to leave the shop and as I did my heart
> went  into what I would call fibrilation/arythmia (nearly 2 minutes)and I
> felt  all drained and tired all of a sudden, within the seconds that I
> realized this  was happening a young man is walking toward me with his smart phone
> held infront  of him (he was approx 1meter by this time) he was looking at
> the  screen.  This has happened to me before and same thing someone coming  
> toward me with and active smart phone - I wonder wether as they walk toward
> me  the near felid plume on the mobile hits me but has added peculiar results
> due to  them moving - what ever the cause that IS AN ASSUALT on my life I
> should  threaten to sue the person for assualt, but in the real world !!
>
> puk


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judyl_nev
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Hi all

I'm new posting... I am severely EMF sensitive, spend almost no time on computer or tablet I'm on now.  Very bad reaction to fluorescents, computers, kindle fire, plus.

I use a trifield meter to check things. I have a T-Mobile HTC phone that hasn't bothered me much, unless I'm on it too long. I picked up a new phone for my sister, can't think of the phone name at the moment.  The trifield meter reading on my phone was low. My sister's phone, on the other hand, spiked at irregular intervals. This is on the magnetic setting. It would go from about 2 to about 15 and was unstable.

The microwave reading goes up past 100! Whether it is on or off! I rarely use the microwave, and now have it plugged into a surge protector. As long as the surge protector is off, the reading is zero.

Something I've found weird is that in the summer the meter shows a magnetic reading of 5-8 ish. When it's cooler, the reading goes down to 2-3 ish. It improves with rain. (Should be well under 3)

I, too am looking for tablets or something like an e-ink reader that will also be able to use the internet.

I also have experienced irregular - mostly somewhat high heart rate with the EMF problems.  This is helped somewhat with magnesium, and with normalizing ph balance. Something that really bothers me is the odd, abnormal weather, atmosphere, crap out there... CTs...

On Magda Havas' site, she talks about wifi and smart meters, and what they're doing to children, and now some schools have defibrillators in schools, in case some child's heart goes into defib...

***
Things to look at: the book "EARTHING" as well as their site. See page 78 in the book... It is necessary to earth or ground on non-geopathic stressed ground...

Also look at the subject of paramagnetic stones. Paramagnetic Lime takes noxious energies in a downward spiral. Silica is supposed to work on power lines..

Good luck to every one!

Judy



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>
> Yesterday I was in town in a Subway sandwhich shop, now I am weary that  
> they use microwaves to heat the food, but I keep well back from the counter,
> but  yesterday all was fine I turned to leave the shop and as I did my heart
> went  into what I would call fibrilation/arythmia (nearly 2 minutes)and I
> felt  all drained and tired all of a sudden, within the seconds that I
> realized this  was happening a young man is walking toward me with his smart phone
> held infront  of him (he was approx 1meter by this time) he was looking at
> the  screen.  This has happened to me before and same thing someone coming  
> toward me with and active smart phone - I wonder wether as they walk toward
> me  the near felid plume on the mobile hits me but has added peculiar results
> due to  them moving - what ever the cause that IS AN ASSUALT on my life I
> should  threaten to sue the person for assualt, but in the real world !!
>  
> puk
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>


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Kumara
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It could be that he's watching a video being streamed. Maybe you
should consider "Sarah-gear". Since you can't change the world, might
as well change yourself. Then the world, your world, changes on its own. :-)

[hidden email] wrote thus at 07:03 PM 12-10-12:

>Yesterday I was in town in a Subway sandwhich shop, now I am weary that
>they use microwaves to heat the food, but I keep well back from the counter,
>but  yesterday all was fine I turned to leave the shop and as I did my heart
>went  into what I would call fibrilation/arythmia (nearly 2 minutes)and I
>felt  all drained and tired all of a sudden, within the seconds that I
>realized this  was happening a young man is walking toward me with
>his smart phone
>held infront  of him (he was approx 1meter by this time) he was looking at
>the  screen.  This has happened to me before and same thing someone coming
>toward me with and active smart phone - I wonder wether as they walk toward
>me  the near felid plume on the mobile hits me but has added peculiar results
>due to  them moving - what ever the cause that IS AN ASSUALT on my life I
>should  threaten to sue the person for assualt, but in the real world !!

PUK
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PUK
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yes you would really have to have the corage of your convictions to wear  
the full EMF veil in public, that said I dont think that this attire is  
altogether practical or necessarily effective for general wear for the  esser.  
I once wore a undergarments which were lined out with silver  threads, but I
in recall I felt worse wearing them.  They would be fine in  a very low EMR
environment but in an office or shopping centre they probably  catch and
accumulate EMR and would need constant earthing plus a much greater  air gap
between the skin and the fabric.  What I have done in the past with  regards
to individual mobiles causing me problems is to approach the person/user  
and explain what just happened, the response is usually fair, as I expain  to
the person that there mobile may be a rogue model putting out excessive RF  
and that they might consider getting it checked over, this can plant a seed
for  the good.
 
other than that I just continue to run the EMF guantlet !
 
puk
 
 
In a message dated 13/10/2012 09:57:24 GMT Daylight Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

 
 
 
It could be that he's watching a video being streamed. Maybe you
should  consider "Sarah-gear". Since you can't change the world, might
as well  change yourself. Then the world, your world, changes on its own.
:-)

_paulpjc@aol.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])  wrote thus at 07:03 PM  
12-10-12:
>Yesterday I was in town in a Subway sandwhich shop, now I am  weary that
>they use microwaves to heat the food, but I keep well back  from the
counter,
>but yesterday all was fine I turned to leave the shop  and as I did my
heart
>went into what I would call fibrilation/arythmia  (nearly 2 minutes)and I
>felt all drained and tired all of a sudden,  within the seconds that I
>realized this was happening a young man is  walking toward me with
>his smart phone
>held infront of him (he  was approx 1meter by this time) he was looking at
>the screen. This has  happened to me before and same thing someone coming
>toward me with and  active smart phone - I wonder wether as they walk
toward
>me the near  felid plume on the mobile hits me but has added peculiar
results
>due to  them moving - what ever the cause that IS AN ASSUALT on my life  I
>should threaten to sue the person for assualt, but in the real world  !!






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PUK
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funny you should say that the HTC phones seem quite tame in my experience  
too
 
puk
 
 
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I have  a T-Mobile HTC phone


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PUK
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yes and we are seeing fit sports people having heart attacks on field in  
stadiums, these stadiums must be awash with signals, not to mention the new  
electronic advertising boards that curtail the pitches, many of these sport  
persons probably max out their mobiles and are constantly in high emr  
environments.  Working on the basis of anomalous events, lets just say that  our
hearts get hit it the peak or trough of a their major electrical cycle (all
 in milliseconds) by a rogue/stray signal and boom.  Many mobiles are  
defective in terms of their RF output, and also can be effected by prevailing  
environmental/topographical etc landscape.
so just like if you keep on pulling the arm of a gamling machine sooner or  
later you will hit the jackpot good or bad
 
puk
 
 
In a message dated 12/10/2012 20:32:11 GMT Daylight Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

 
 
 
fascinating. my roommate has an iPhone and i ordered
a land line so  that he doesn't have to use the iPhone
here, since i could feel it as  cramps in my ankles and legs.

i have wondered if many heart attacks  might be the
body's response to intense EMF.

i went to the utility  company board meeting here and only
one board member showed any concern  about smart
meters. when we pointed out that they don't allow cell  
phones on heart wards in hospitals, he GOT it because he
had major  heart surgery. he looked VERY worried when
he realized that smart meters  were like using cell phones
EVERYWHERE - and he would be in danger  EVERYWHERE.

patricia

On Oct 12, 2012, at 4:03 AM, _paulpjc@aol.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])  
wrote:

>  Yesterday I was in town in a Subway sandwhich shop, now I am weary that  
> they use microwaves to heat the food, but I keep well back from the  
counter,
> but yesterday all was fine I turned to leave the shop and as  I did my
heart
> went into what I would call fibrilation/arythmia  (nearly 2 minutes)and I
> felt all drained and tired all of a sudden,  within the seconds that I
> realized this was happening a young man is  walking toward me with his
smart phone
> held infront of him (he was  approx 1meter by this time) he was looking
at
> the screen. This has  happened to me before and same thing someone coming
> toward me with  and active smart phone - I wonder wether as they walk
toward
> me the  near felid plume on the mobile hits me but has added peculiar
results
>  due to them moving - what ever the cause that IS AN ASSUALT on my life I
 
> should threaten to sue the person for assualt, but in the real world  !!
>
> puk






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KathyB

Patricia,

That is excellent, that 1 board member of your utility co. now gets it.
On smart meters harming the heart.

He'll tell someone else. One step at a time. And on no cell phones being allowed in heart wards. It's ironic though, hospitals have wi-fi. They need to understand they are hurting & in many cases killing people.

Does anyone have good article on no cell phone allowed iin heart section of the hospital?

I"m trying to convince someone to get the smart meters off their relative's house w a heart condition. They may kill him if this person doesn't listen.



Kathy

 

 

In a message dated 12/10/2012 20:32:11 GMT Daylight Time,  

[hidden email] writes:



fascinating. my roommate has an iPhone and i ordered

a land line so  that he doesn't have to use the iPhone

here, since i could feel it as  cramps in my ankles and legs.



i have wondered if many heart attacks  might be the

body's response to intense EMF.



i went to the utility  company board meeting here and only

one board member showed any concern  about smart

meters. when we pointed out that they don't allow cell  

phones on heart wards in hospitals, he GOT it because he

had major  heart surgery. he looked VERY worried when

he realized that smart meters  were like using cell phones

EVERYWHERE - and he would be in danger  EVERYWHERE.



patricia








 










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Auntie Patricia
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there's also a story about a man who was delivering
a 'controversial' lecture in a conference setting.  he
collapsed at the podium and died on the spot.  a
man was seen quickly leaving the room and speaking
on the phone... "it's done" he said.  the military has
had EMR weapons for decades.  
patricia

On Oct 13, 2012, at 3:27 AM, [hidden email] wrote:

> yes and we are seeing fit sports people having heart attacks on field in  
> stadiums, these stadiums must be awash with signals, not to mention the new  
> electronic advertising boards that curtail the pitches, many of these sport  
> persons probably max out their mobiles and are constantly in high emr  
> environments.  Working on the basis of anomalous events, lets just say that  our
> hearts get hit it the peak or trough of a their major electrical cycle (all
> in milliseconds) by a rogue/stray signal and boom.  Many mobiles are  
> defective in terms of their RF output, and also can be effected by prevailing  
> environmental/topographical etc landscape.
> so just like if you keep on pulling the arm of a gamling machine sooner or  
> later you will hit the jackpot good or bad
>
> puk
>
>
> In a message dated 12/10/2012 20:32:11 GMT Daylight Time,  
> [hidden email] writes:
>
>
>
>
> fascinating. my roommate has an iPhone and i ordered
> a land line so  that he doesn't have to use the iPhone
> here, since i could feel it as  cramps in my ankles and legs.
>
> i have wondered if many heart attacks  might be the
> body's response to intense EMF.
>
> i went to the utility  company board meeting here and only
> one board member showed any concern  about smart
> meters. when we pointed out that they don't allow cell  
> phones on heart wards in hospitals, he GOT it because he
> had major  heart surgery. he looked VERY worried when
> he realized that smart meters  were like using cell phones
> EVERYWHERE - and he would be in danger  EVERYWHERE.
>
> patricia
>
> On Oct 12, 2012, at 4:03 AM, _paulpjc@aol.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])  
> wrote:
>
>> Yesterday I was in town in a Subway sandwhich shop, now I am weary that  
>> they use microwaves to heat the food, but I keep well back from the  
> counter,
>> but yesterday all was fine I turned to leave the shop and as  I did my
> heart
>> went into what I would call fibrilation/arythmia  (nearly 2 minutes)and I
>> felt all drained and tired all of a sudden,  within the seconds that I
>> realized this was happening a young man is  walking toward me with his
> smart phone
>> held infront of him (he was  approx 1meter by this time) he was looking
> at
>> the screen. This has  happened to me before and same thing someone coming
>> toward me with  and active smart phone - I wonder wether as they walk
> toward
>> me the  near felid plume on the mobile hits me but has added peculiar
> results
>> due to them moving - what ever the cause that IS AN ASSUALT on my life I
>
>> should threaten to sue the person for assualt, but in the real world  !!
>>
>> puk
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>
>
>
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Kumara
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Yup, courage to let others have their opinion about us. That's why I
have much respect for Sarah Dacre. She wearing the headgear and
letting others have their opinion have led to more news about the
dangers of wireless signals.

FYI, I'm getting some fabric to make a headgear for myself too. I
rarely need it though, as I live in the wilderness most of the time.

kb

[hidden email] wrote thus at 06:00 PM 13-10-12:

>yes you would really have to have the corage of your convictions to wear
>the full EMF veil in public, that said I dont think that this attire is
>altogether practical or necessarily effective for general wear for
>the  esser.
>I once wore a undergarments which were lined out with silver  threads, but I
>in recall I felt worse wearing them.  They would be fine in  a very low EMR
>environment but in an office or shopping centre they probably  catch and
>accumulate EMR and would need constant earthing plus a much greater  air gap
>between the skin and the fabric.  What I have done in the past with  regards
>to individual mobiles causing me problems is to approach the person/user
>and explain what just happened, the response is usually fair, as I expain  to
>the person that there mobile may be a rogue model putting out excessive RF
>and that they might consider getting it checked over, this can plant a seed
>for  the good.
>
>other than that I just continue to run the EMF guantlet !
>
>puk

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Auntie Patricia
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kathy, i hope they will be able to hear you about your relative's smart meters.  it is as if the country is in a deep sleep and few are awake enough to see what is going on.  i found this on the internet:  

---
The FDA in the USa says there are "potential" risks with Pacemakers and Defibrillators

Interference with Pacemakers and Other Medical Devices

Potential interference:

Radiofrequency energy (RF) from cell phones can interact with some electronic devices. This type of interference is called electromagnetic interference (EMI). For this reason, FDA helped develop a detailed test method to measure EMI of implanted cardiac pacemakers and defibrillators from cell phones. This test method is now part of a standard sponsored by the Association for the Advancement of Medical Instrumentation (AAMI). This standard will allow manufacturers to ensure that cardiac pacemakers and defibrillators are safe from cell phone EMI.

FDA continues to monitor the use of cell phones for possible interactions with other medical devices. Should harmful interference be found to occur, FDA will conduct testing to assess the interference and work to resolve the problem.

Precautions for pacemaker wearers If EMI were to occur, it could affect a pacemaker in one of three ways: Stopping the pacemaker from delivering the stimulating pulses that regulate the heart's rhythm

Causing the pacemaker to deliver the pulses irregularly

Causing the pacemaker to ignore the heart's own rhythm and deliver pulses at a fixed rate

But based on current research, cell phones would not seem to pose a significant health problem for the vast majority of pacemaker wearers. Still, people with pacemakers may want to take some simple precautions to be sure that their cell phones don't cause a problem. Hold the phone to the ear opposite the side of the body where the pacemaker is implanted to add some extra distance between the pacemaker and the phone Avoid placing a turned-on phone next to the pacemaker implant (e.g. don’t carry the phone in a shirt or jacket pocket directly over the pacemaker)

Related Links

http://www.fda.gov/Radiation-EmittingProducts/RadiationSafety/ElectromagneticCompatibilityEMC/default.htm
---

the board member of the utility company had a pacemaker.  
he really HEARD it when we compared smart meter output
to cell phones... and so on.  :)   unfortunately, he is no longer
on the board... perhaps because of his heart problem.  ?  

i wonder if magnesium would help our hearts even where
there is high EMF?  the cramps i get when i am asleep in an
area where wifi is happening and cell phones are happening,
are relieved when i rub magnesium oil on my feet/legs.  
i make it by mixing 1 part nigari (magnesium chloride flakes
that i buy at a health food store) with 1 part water.  it lasts
forever, is cheap to make, and works!!!  i also put it on my
chest area when i feel a tightness there - i figure tightness
there indicates a cramp in my heart or other inner organs.  
relief is rapid.  

patricia    


On Oct 13, 2012, at 8:16 AM, KathyB wrote:

>
> Patricia,
>
> That is excellent, that 1 board member of your utility co. now gets it.
> On smart meters harming the heart.
>
> He'll tell someone else. One step at a time. And on no cell phones being allowed in heart wards. It's ironic though, hospitals have wi-fi. They need to understand they are hurting & in many cases killing people.
>
> Does anyone have good article on no cell phone allowed iin heart section of the hospital?
>
> I"m trying to convince someone to get the smart meters off their relative's house w a heart condition. They may kill him if this person doesn't listen.
>
>
>
> Kathy
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/10/2012 20:32:11 GMT Daylight Time,  
>
> [hidden email] writes:
>
>
>
> fascinating. my roommate has an iPhone and i ordered
>
> a land line so  that he doesn't have to use the iPhone
>
> here, since i could feel it as  cramps in my ankles and legs.
>
>
>
> i have wondered if many heart attacks  might be the
>
> body's response to intense EMF.
>
>
>
> i went to the utility  company board meeting here and only
>
> one board member showed any concern  about smart
>
> meters. when we pointed out that they don't allow cell  
>
> phones on heart wards in hospitals, he GOT it because he
>
> had major  heart surgery. he looked VERY worried when
>
> he realized that smart meters  were like using cell phones
>
> EVERYWHERE - and he would be in danger  EVERYWHERE.
>
>
>
> patricia
>
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