Yesterday I was in town in a Subway sandwhich shop, now I am weary that
they use microwaves to heat the food, but I keep well back from the counter, but yesterday all was fine I turned to leave the shop and as I did my heart went into what I would call fibrilation/arythmia (nearly 2 minutes)and I felt all drained and tired all of a sudden, within the seconds that I realized this was happening a young man is walking toward me with his smart phone held infront of him (he was approx 1meter by this time) he was looking at the screen. This has happened to me before and same thing someone coming toward me with and active smart phone - I wonder wether as they walk toward me the near felid plume on the mobile hits me but has added peculiar results due to them moving - what ever the cause that IS AN ASSUALT on my life I should threaten to sue the person for assualt, but in the real world !! puk [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Totally agree. It is assault.I did find using a pure therapeutic grade Lavender essential oil, 2 dropson my daughter's heart, helped her with this very same heart symptom.Very scary though! Collateral Damage: Speaking Out Against Wireless Harm www.emfnews.org/Collateral-Damage-Speaking-Out-Against-Wireles... LizzieTo: [hidden email] CC: [hidden email]; [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 07:03:13 -0400 Subject: [eSens] heart troubles near mobiles Yesterday I was in town in a Subway sandwhich shop, now I am weary that they use microwaves to heat the food, but I keep well back from the counter, but yesterday all was fine I turned to leave the shop and as I did my heart went into what I would call fibrilation/arythmia (nearly 2 minutes)and I felt all drained and tired all of a sudden, within the seconds that I realized this was happening a young man is walking toward me with his smart phone held infront of him (he was approx 1meter by this time) he was looking at the screen. This has happened to me before and same thing someone coming toward me with and active smart phone - I wonder wether as they walk toward me the near felid plume on the mobile hits me but has added peculiar results due to them moving - what ever the cause that IS AN ASSUALT on my life I should threaten to sue the person for assualt, but in the real world !! puk [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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fascinating. my roommate has an iPhone and i ordered
a land line so that he doesn't have to use the iPhone here, since i could feel it as cramps in my ankles and legs. i have wondered if many heart attacks might be the body's response to intense EMF. i went to the utility company board meeting here and only one board member showed any concern about smart meters. when we pointed out that they don't allow cell phones on heart wards in hospitals, he GOT it because he had major heart surgery. he looked VERY worried when he realized that smart meters were like using cell phones EVERYWHERE - and he would be in danger EVERYWHERE. patricia On Oct 12, 2012, at 4:03 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > Yesterday I was in town in a Subway sandwhich shop, now I am weary that > they use microwaves to heat the food, but I keep well back from the counter, > but yesterday all was fine I turned to leave the shop and as I did my heart > went into what I would call fibrilation/arythmia (nearly 2 minutes)and I > felt all drained and tired all of a sudden, within the seconds that I > realized this was happening a young man is walking toward me with his smart phone > held infront of him (he was approx 1meter by this time) he was looking at > the screen. This has happened to me before and same thing someone coming > toward me with and active smart phone - I wonder wether as they walk toward > me the near felid plume on the mobile hits me but has added peculiar results > due to them moving - what ever the cause that IS AN ASSUALT on my life I > should threaten to sue the person for assualt, but in the real world !! > > puk |
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Hi all
I'm new posting... I am severely EMF sensitive, spend almost no time on computer or tablet I'm on now. Very bad reaction to fluorescents, computers, kindle fire, plus. I use a trifield meter to check things. I have a T-Mobile HTC phone that hasn't bothered me much, unless I'm on it too long. I picked up a new phone for my sister, can't think of the phone name at the moment. The trifield meter reading on my phone was low. My sister's phone, on the other hand, spiked at irregular intervals. This is on the magnetic setting. It would go from about 2 to about 15 and was unstable. The microwave reading goes up past 100! Whether it is on or off! I rarely use the microwave, and now have it plugged into a surge protector. As long as the surge protector is off, the reading is zero. Something I've found weird is that in the summer the meter shows a magnetic reading of 5-8 ish. When it's cooler, the reading goes down to 2-3 ish. It improves with rain. (Should be well under 3) I, too am looking for tablets or something like an e-ink reader that will also be able to use the internet. I also have experienced irregular - mostly somewhat high heart rate with the EMF problems. This is helped somewhat with magnesium, and with normalizing ph balance. Something that really bothers me is the odd, abnormal weather, atmosphere, crap out there... CTs... On Magda Havas' site, she talks about wifi and smart meters, and what they're doing to children, and now some schools have defibrillators in schools, in case some child's heart goes into defib... *** Things to look at: the book "EARTHING" as well as their site. See page 78 in the book... It is necessary to earth or ground on non-geopathic stressed ground... Also look at the subject of paramagnetic stones. Paramagnetic Lime takes noxious energies in a downward spiral. Silica is supposed to work on power lines.. Good luck to every one! Judy --- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote: > > Yesterday I was in town in a Subway sandwhich shop, now I am weary that > they use microwaves to heat the food, but I keep well back from the counter, > but yesterday all was fine I turned to leave the shop and as I did my heart > went into what I would call fibrilation/arythmia (nearly 2 minutes)and I > felt all drained and tired all of a sudden, within the seconds that I > realized this was happening a young man is walking toward me with his smart phone > held infront of him (he was approx 1meter by this time) he was looking at > the screen. This has happened to me before and same thing someone coming > toward me with and active smart phone - I wonder wether as they walk toward > me the near felid plume on the mobile hits me but has added peculiar results > due to them moving - what ever the cause that IS AN ASSUALT on my life I > should threaten to sue the person for assualt, but in the real world !! > > puk > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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It could be that he's watching a video being streamed. Maybe you
should consider "Sarah-gear". Since you can't change the world, might as well change yourself. Then the world, your world, changes on its own. :-) [hidden email] wrote thus at 07:03 PM 12-10-12: >Yesterday I was in town in a Subway sandwhich shop, now I am weary that >they use microwaves to heat the food, but I keep well back from the counter, >but yesterday all was fine I turned to leave the shop and as I did my heart >went into what I would call fibrilation/arythmia (nearly 2 minutes)and I >felt all drained and tired all of a sudden, within the seconds that I >realized this was happening a young man is walking toward me with >his smart phone >held infront of him (he was approx 1meter by this time) he was looking at >the screen. This has happened to me before and same thing someone coming >toward me with and active smart phone - I wonder wether as they walk toward >me the near felid plume on the mobile hits me but has added peculiar results >due to them moving - what ever the cause that IS AN ASSUALT on my life I >should threaten to sue the person for assualt, but in the real world !! |
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yes you would really have to have the corage of your convictions to wear
the full EMF veil in public, that said I dont think that this attire is altogether practical or necessarily effective for general wear for the esser. I once wore a undergarments which were lined out with silver threads, but I in recall I felt worse wearing them. They would be fine in a very low EMR environment but in an office or shopping centre they probably catch and accumulate EMR and would need constant earthing plus a much greater air gap between the skin and the fabric. What I have done in the past with regards to individual mobiles causing me problems is to approach the person/user and explain what just happened, the response is usually fair, as I expain to the person that there mobile may be a rogue model putting out excessive RF and that they might consider getting it checked over, this can plant a seed for the good. other than that I just continue to run the EMF guantlet ! puk In a message dated 13/10/2012 09:57:24 GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: It could be that he's watching a video being streamed. Maybe you should consider "Sarah-gear". Since you can't change the world, might as well change yourself. Then the world, your world, changes on its own. :-) _paulpjc@aol.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) wrote thus at 07:03 PM 12-10-12: >Yesterday I was in town in a Subway sandwhich shop, now I am weary that >they use microwaves to heat the food, but I keep well back from the counter, >but yesterday all was fine I turned to leave the shop and as I did my heart >went into what I would call fibrilation/arythmia (nearly 2 minutes)and I >felt all drained and tired all of a sudden, within the seconds that I >realized this was happening a young man is walking toward me with >his smart phone >held infront of him (he was approx 1meter by this time) he was looking at >the screen. This has happened to me before and same thing someone coming >toward me with and active smart phone - I wonder wether as they walk toward >me the near felid plume on the mobile hits me but has added peculiar results >due to them moving - what ever the cause that IS AN ASSUALT on my life I >should threaten to sue the person for assualt, but in the real world !! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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funny you should say that the HTC phones seem quite tame in my experience
too puk In a message dated 12/10/2012 22:41:23 GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: I have a T-Mobile HTC phone [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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yes and we are seeing fit sports people having heart attacks on field in
stadiums, these stadiums must be awash with signals, not to mention the new electronic advertising boards that curtail the pitches, many of these sport persons probably max out their mobiles and are constantly in high emr environments. Working on the basis of anomalous events, lets just say that our hearts get hit it the peak or trough of a their major electrical cycle (all in milliseconds) by a rogue/stray signal and boom. Many mobiles are defective in terms of their RF output, and also can be effected by prevailing environmental/topographical etc landscape. so just like if you keep on pulling the arm of a gamling machine sooner or later you will hit the jackpot good or bad puk In a message dated 12/10/2012 20:32:11 GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: fascinating. my roommate has an iPhone and i ordered a land line so that he doesn't have to use the iPhone here, since i could feel it as cramps in my ankles and legs. i have wondered if many heart attacks might be the body's response to intense EMF. i went to the utility company board meeting here and only one board member showed any concern about smart meters. when we pointed out that they don't allow cell phones on heart wards in hospitals, he GOT it because he had major heart surgery. he looked VERY worried when he realized that smart meters were like using cell phones EVERYWHERE - and he would be in danger EVERYWHERE. patricia On Oct 12, 2012, at 4:03 AM, _paulpjc@aol.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) wrote: > Yesterday I was in town in a Subway sandwhich shop, now I am weary that > they use microwaves to heat the food, but I keep well back from the counter, > but yesterday all was fine I turned to leave the shop and as I did my heart > went into what I would call fibrilation/arythmia (nearly 2 minutes)and I > felt all drained and tired all of a sudden, within the seconds that I > realized this was happening a young man is walking toward me with his smart phone > held infront of him (he was approx 1meter by this time) he was looking at > the screen. This has happened to me before and same thing someone coming > toward me with and active smart phone - I wonder wether as they walk toward > me the near felid plume on the mobile hits me but has added peculiar results > due to them moving - what ever the cause that IS AN ASSUALT on my life I > should threaten to sue the person for assualt, but in the real world !! > > puk [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Patricia, That is excellent, that 1 board member of your utility co. now gets it. On smart meters harming the heart. He'll tell someone else. One step at a time. And on no cell phones being allowed in heart wards. It's ironic though, hospitals have wi-fi. They need to understand they are hurting & in many cases killing people. Does anyone have good article on no cell phone allowed iin heart section of the hospital? I"m trying to convince someone to get the smart meters off their relative's house w a heart condition. They may kill him if this person doesn't listen. Kathy In a message dated 12/10/2012 20:32:11 GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: fascinating. my roommate has an iPhone and i ordered a land line so that he doesn't have to use the iPhone here, since i could feel it as cramps in my ankles and legs. i have wondered if many heart attacks might be the body's response to intense EMF. i went to the utility company board meeting here and only one board member showed any concern about smart meters. when we pointed out that they don't allow cell phones on heart wards in hospitals, he GOT it because he had major heart surgery. he looked VERY worried when he realized that smart meters were like using cell phones EVERYWHERE - and he would be in danger EVERYWHERE. patricia [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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there's also a story about a man who was delivering
a 'controversial' lecture in a conference setting. he collapsed at the podium and died on the spot. a man was seen quickly leaving the room and speaking on the phone... "it's done" he said. the military has had EMR weapons for decades. patricia On Oct 13, 2012, at 3:27 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > yes and we are seeing fit sports people having heart attacks on field in > stadiums, these stadiums must be awash with signals, not to mention the new > electronic advertising boards that curtail the pitches, many of these sport > persons probably max out their mobiles and are constantly in high emr > environments. Working on the basis of anomalous events, lets just say that our > hearts get hit it the peak or trough of a their major electrical cycle (all > in milliseconds) by a rogue/stray signal and boom. Many mobiles are > defective in terms of their RF output, and also can be effected by prevailing > environmental/topographical etc landscape. > so just like if you keep on pulling the arm of a gamling machine sooner or > later you will hit the jackpot good or bad > > puk > > > In a message dated 12/10/2012 20:32:11 GMT Daylight Time, > [hidden email] writes: > > > > > fascinating. my roommate has an iPhone and i ordered > a land line so that he doesn't have to use the iPhone > here, since i could feel it as cramps in my ankles and legs. > > i have wondered if many heart attacks might be the > body's response to intense EMF. > > i went to the utility company board meeting here and only > one board member showed any concern about smart > meters. when we pointed out that they don't allow cell > phones on heart wards in hospitals, he GOT it because he > had major heart surgery. he looked VERY worried when > he realized that smart meters were like using cell phones > EVERYWHERE - and he would be in danger EVERYWHERE. > > patricia > > On Oct 12, 2012, at 4:03 AM, _paulpjc@aol.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) > wrote: > >> Yesterday I was in town in a Subway sandwhich shop, now I am weary that >> they use microwaves to heat the food, but I keep well back from the > counter, >> but yesterday all was fine I turned to leave the shop and as I did my > heart >> went into what I would call fibrilation/arythmia (nearly 2 minutes)and I >> felt all drained and tired all of a sudden, within the seconds that I >> realized this was happening a young man is walking toward me with his > smart phone >> held infront of him (he was approx 1meter by this time) he was looking > at >> the screen. This has happened to me before and same thing someone coming >> toward me with and active smart phone - I wonder wether as they walk > toward >> me the near felid plume on the mobile hits me but has added peculiar > results >> due to them moving - what ever the cause that IS AN ASSUALT on my life I > >> should threaten to sue the person for assualt, but in the real world !! >> >> puk > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > |
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Yup, courage to let others have their opinion about us. That's why I
have much respect for Sarah Dacre. She wearing the headgear and letting others have their opinion have led to more news about the dangers of wireless signals. FYI, I'm getting some fabric to make a headgear for myself too. I rarely need it though, as I live in the wilderness most of the time. kb [hidden email] wrote thus at 06:00 PM 13-10-12: >yes you would really have to have the corage of your convictions to wear >the full EMF veil in public, that said I dont think that this attire is >altogether practical or necessarily effective for general wear for >the esser. >I once wore a undergarments which were lined out with silver threads, but I >in recall I felt worse wearing them. They would be fine in a very low EMR >environment but in an office or shopping centre they probably catch and >accumulate EMR and would need constant earthing plus a much greater air gap >between the skin and the fabric. What I have done in the past with regards >to individual mobiles causing me problems is to approach the person/user >and explain what just happened, the response is usually fair, as I expain to >the person that there mobile may be a rogue model putting out excessive RF >and that they might consider getting it checked over, this can plant a seed >for the good. > >other than that I just continue to run the EMF guantlet ! > >puk |
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kathy, i hope they will be able to hear you about your relative's smart meters. it is as if the country is in a deep sleep and few are awake enough to see what is going on. i found this on the internet:
--- The FDA in the USa says there are "potential" risks with Pacemakers and Defibrillators Interference with Pacemakers and Other Medical Devices Potential interference: Radiofrequency energy (RF) from cell phones can interact with some electronic devices. This type of interference is called electromagnetic interference (EMI). For this reason, FDA helped develop a detailed test method to measure EMI of implanted cardiac pacemakers and defibrillators from cell phones. This test method is now part of a standard sponsored by the Association for the Advancement of Medical Instrumentation (AAMI). This standard will allow manufacturers to ensure that cardiac pacemakers and defibrillators are safe from cell phone EMI. FDA continues to monitor the use of cell phones for possible interactions with other medical devices. Should harmful interference be found to occur, FDA will conduct testing to assess the interference and work to resolve the problem. Precautions for pacemaker wearers If EMI were to occur, it could affect a pacemaker in one of three ways: Stopping the pacemaker from delivering the stimulating pulses that regulate the heart's rhythm Causing the pacemaker to deliver the pulses irregularly Causing the pacemaker to ignore the heart's own rhythm and deliver pulses at a fixed rate But based on current research, cell phones would not seem to pose a significant health problem for the vast majority of pacemaker wearers. Still, people with pacemakers may want to take some simple precautions to be sure that their cell phones don't cause a problem. Hold the phone to the ear opposite the side of the body where the pacemaker is implanted to add some extra distance between the pacemaker and the phone Avoid placing a turned-on phone next to the pacemaker implant (e.g. don’t carry the phone in a shirt or jacket pocket directly over the pacemaker) Related Links http://www.fda.gov/Radiation-EmittingProducts/RadiationSafety/ElectromagneticCompatibilityEMC/default.htm --- the board member of the utility company had a pacemaker. he really HEARD it when we compared smart meter output to cell phones... and so on. :) unfortunately, he is no longer on the board... perhaps because of his heart problem. ? i wonder if magnesium would help our hearts even where there is high EMF? the cramps i get when i am asleep in an area where wifi is happening and cell phones are happening, are relieved when i rub magnesium oil on my feet/legs. i make it by mixing 1 part nigari (magnesium chloride flakes that i buy at a health food store) with 1 part water. it lasts forever, is cheap to make, and works!!! i also put it on my chest area when i feel a tightness there - i figure tightness there indicates a cramp in my heart or other inner organs. relief is rapid. patricia On Oct 13, 2012, at 8:16 AM, KathyB wrote: > > Patricia, > > That is excellent, that 1 board member of your utility co. now gets it. > On smart meters harming the heart. > > He'll tell someone else. One step at a time. And on no cell phones being allowed in heart wards. It's ironic though, hospitals have wi-fi. They need to understand they are hurting & in many cases killing people. > > Does anyone have good article on no cell phone allowed iin heart section of the hospital? > > I"m trying to convince someone to get the smart meters off their relative's house w a heart condition. They may kill him if this person doesn't listen. > > > > Kathy > > > > > > In a message dated 12/10/2012 20:32:11 GMT Daylight Time, > > [hidden email] writes: > > > > fascinating. my roommate has an iPhone and i ordered > > a land line so that he doesn't have to use the iPhone > > here, since i could feel it as cramps in my ankles and legs. > > > > i have wondered if many heart attacks might be the > > body's response to intense EMF. > > > > i went to the utility company board meeting here and only > > one board member showed any concern about smart > > meters. when we pointed out that they don't allow cell > > phones on heart wards in hospitals, he GOT it because he > > had major heart surgery. he looked VERY worried when > > he realized that smart meters were like using cell phones > > EVERYWHERE - and he would be in danger EVERYWHERE. > > > > patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [hidden email] [hidden email] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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