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Elizabeth Mumper

have you had these test results?

Hi,
I recently tested positive for heterozygous MTHFR. Upon research I found out that this is part of my dna and can effect folic acid metabolism. Although according to the web, many people have this and are healthy.

Long story short, I was wondering if anyone else on here has tested positive for this and found other problems in connection to this, or did other tests that revealed possible causes for digestive/detox problems. If so, Iwould love to hear from you.

Thanks.
zil

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Ian Kemp

RE: have you had these test results?

Sue recently did a genetic profiling test which showed up a defect in her
glutathione metabolism. This certainly correlates with the way she
developed MCS and then ES, and it has been improved by glutathione infusions
(amongst other treatment). Just a shame we didn't know it several years
earlier.

The other angle is that she had been healthy for 40 years. Her other
metabolic pathways were able to carry the extra load until something
happened to overload them (in her case, firstly a prolonged dose of
antibiotics, and later, a combination of severe stress and an SSRI intended
as treatment). This may link to your first point below. The body seems to
have lots of backup systems which often cope with all sorts of problems
without us noticing it - including the ability to metabolise lots of
hydrocarbon-type chemcials which weren't around in humankind's past. To
borrow a phrase, we are "fearfully and wonderfully made"!

Ian

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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Elizabeth Mumper
Sent: 21 March 2009 17:38
To: Esens
Subject: [eSens] have you had these test results?

Hi,
I recently tested positive for heterozygous MTHFR. Upon research I found out
that this is part of my dna and can effect folic acid metabolism. Although
according to the web, many people have this and are healthy.

Long story short, I was wondering if anyone else on here has tested positive
for this and found other problems in connection to this, or did other tests
that revealed possible causes for digestive/detox problems. If so, I would
love to hear from you.

Thanks.
zil

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pete robinson

Re: have you had these test results?

In reply to this post by Elizabeth Mumper

ian

did she have the detox profile test

--- In [hidden email], "Ian Kemp" <ianandsue.kemp@...> wrote:

>
> Sue recently did a genetic profiling test which showed up a defect in her
> glutathione metabolism. This certainly correlates with the way she
> developed MCS and then ES, and it has been improved by glutathione infusions
> (amongst other treatment). Just a shame we didn't know it several years
> earlier.
>
> The other angle is that she had been healthy for 40 years. Her other
> metabolic pathways were able to carry the extra load until something
> happened to overload them (in her case, firstly a prolonged dose of
> antibiotics, and later, a combination of severe stress and an SSRI intended
> as treatment). This may link to your first point below. The body seems to
> have lots of backup systems which often cope with all sorts of problems
> without us noticing it - including the ability to metabolise lots of
> hydrocarbon-type chemcials which weren't around in humankind's past. To
> borrow a phrase, we are "fearfully and wonderfully made"!
>
> Ian
>
> _____
>
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> Elizabeth Mumper
> Sent: 21 March 2009 17:38
> To: Esens
> Subject: [eSens] have you had these test results?
>
>
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>
> Hi,
> I recently tested positive for heterozygous MTHFR. Upon research I found out
> that this is part of my dna and can effect folic acid metabolism. Although
> according to the web, many people have this and are healthy.
>
> Long story short, I was wondering if anyone else on here has tested positive
> for this and found other problems in connection to this, or did other tests
> that revealed possible causes for digestive/detox problems. If so, I would
> love to hear from you.
>
> Thanks.
> zil
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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evie15422

Re: have you had these test results?

In reply to this post by Elizabeth Mumper

Hi, Zil,

I haven't had the test you mention. I went to look it up and it said this was relatively common tho (44% test positive, according to the one site). I do have higher than normal levels of homocyteine sometimes when tested tho, and have a history of folic acid deficit (probably my problem is due to celiac disease, tho, as that is common for cd.) My homocysteine fluctuates quite a bit--I was told this has to do with the amount of bodily stress I am under at any given time. Higher homocysteine is also common for cd, as well as digestive and detox problems. Not saying this isyour problem; these are all relatively common problems these days due to toxin proliferation (and toxins in your food finding their way thru holes in your digestive tract--that can be caused by gluten, dairy intolerance,or proliferation of bad gut flora, such as candida, and toxic bacteria, such as fish toxins, etc.)

My 2 cents,
Diane

--- On Sat, 3/21/09, Elizabeth Mumper <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Elizabeth Mumper <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] have you had these test results?
To: "Esens" <[hidden email]>
Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 1:37 PM

Hi,
I recently tested positive for heterozygous MTHFR. Upon research I found out that this is part of my dna and can effect folic acid metabolism. Although according to the web, many people have this and are healthy.

Long story short, I was wondering if anyone else on here has tested positive for this and found other problems in connection to this, or did other tests that revealed possible causes for digestive/detox problems. If so, Iwould love to hear from you.

Thanks.
zil

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Ian Kemp

Re: have you had these test results?

In reply to this post by pete robinson

I must admit I've lost track of all the tests Sue has done over the years!
However if you mean the 3-way one which includes caffeine etc, I don't think
she did, because we knew by then that she was reacting very badly to
caffeine (and lots of other things) so didn't dare try a challenge test.

Ian

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robbojnr27
Sent: 22 March 2009 19:04
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [eSens] Re: have you had these test results?

ian

did she have the detox profile test

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Ian Kemp"
<ianandsue.kemp@...> wrote:
>
> Sue recently did a genetic profiling test which showed up a defect in her
> glutathione metabolism. This certainly correlates with the way she
> developed MCS and then ES, and it has been improved by glutathione
infusions
> (amongst other treatment). Just a shame we didn't know it several years
> earlier.
>
> The other angle is that she had been healthy for 40 years. Her other
> metabolic pathways were able to carry the extra load until something
> happened to overload them (in her case, firstly a prolonged dose of
> antibiotics, and later, a combination of severe stress and an SSRI
intended

> as treatment). This may link to your first point below. The body seems to
> have lots of backup systems which often cope with all sorts of problems
> without us noticing it - including the ability to metabolise lots of
> hydrocarbon-type chemcials which weren't around in humankind's past. To
> borrow a phrase, we are "fearfully and wonderfully made"!
>
> Ian
>
> _____
>
> From: eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com

[mailto:eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com] On Behalf
Of

> Elizabeth Mumper
> Sent: 21 March 2009 17:38
> To: Esens
> Subject: [eSens] have you had these test results?
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
> I recently tested positive for heterozygous MTHFR. Upon research I found

out
> that this is part of my dna and can effect folic acid metabolism. Although
> according to the web, many people have this and are healthy.
>
> Long story short, I was wondering if anyone else on here has tested
positive
> for this and found other problems in connection to this, or did other
tests

> that revealed possible causes for digestive/detox problems. If so, I would
> love to hear from you.
>
> Thanks.
> zil
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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pete robinson

Re: have you had these test results?

In reply to this post by Elizabeth Mumper

no its a blood test ian

looks at phase 1 and 2, to see how your body is detoxing the different pathways

i was interested to know what that test was you had done so i can maybe look into it

thanks

--- In [hidden email], "Ian Kemp" <ianandsue.kemp@...> wrote:

>
> I must admit I've lost track of all the tests Sue has done over the years!
> However if you mean the 3-way one which includes caffeine etc, I don't think
> she did, because we knew by then that she was reacting very badly to
> caffeine (and lots of other things) so didn't dare try a challenge test.
>
> Ian
>
> _____
>
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> robbojnr27
> Sent: 22 March 2009 19:04
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [eSens] Re: have you had these test results?
>
>
>
> ian
>
> did she have the detox profile test
>
> --- In eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Ian Kemp"
> <ianandsue.kemp@> wrote:
> >
> > Sue recently did a genetic profiling test which showed up a defect in her
> > glutathione metabolism. This certainly correlates with the way she
> > developed MCS and then ES, and it has been improved by glutathione
> infusions
> > (amongst other treatment). Just a shame we didn't know it several years
> > earlier.
> >
> > The other angle is that she had been healthy for 40 years. Her other
> > metabolic pathways were able to carry the extra load until something
> > happened to overload them (in her case, firstly a prolonged dose of
> > antibiotics, and later, a combination of severe stress and an SSRI
> intended
> > as treatment). This may link to your first point below. The body seems to
> > have lots of backup systems which often cope with all sorts of problems
> > without us noticing it - including the ability to metabolise lots of
> > hydrocarbon-type chemcials which weren't around in humankind's past. To
> > borrow a phrase, we are "fearfully and wonderfully made"!
> >
> > Ian
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com
> [mailto:eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com] On Behalf
> Of
> > Elizabeth Mumper
> > Sent: 21 March 2009 17:38
> > To: Esens
> > Subject: [eSens] have you had these test results?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> > I recently tested positive for heterozygous MTHFR. Upon research I found
> out
> > that this is part of my dna and can effect folic acid metabolism. Although
> > according to the web, many people have this and are healthy.
> >
> > Long story short, I was wondering if anyone else on here has tested
> positive
> > for this and found other problems in connection to this, or did other
> tests
> > that revealed possible causes for digestive/detox problems. If so, I would
> > love to hear from you.
> >
> > Thanks.
> > zil
> >
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christine_hoch

Re: have you had these test results?

In reply to this post by Elizabeth Mumper

I have moderate ES, and haven't had this genetic test. My son who was originally diagnosed with an autism spectrum disorder, had genetic testing. He is MTHFR +/- or heterogenous. I used his genetic test results to help with atailored detoxification plan. Detoxification has greatly contributed to his progress.

Christine Hoch

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