I've read about how emotions can 'burn out' your nervous system and cause
these problems. I know for myself my life has had alot of problems and i've been unhappy about things not related to my environment. I was just curious - is there 1 person on this list who believes they had a happy childhood and were relatively happy without major emotional issues BEFORE they had ES symptoms? Thanks. -- Paul Coffman [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
I've read about how emotions can 'burn out' your nervous system and cause
these problems. I know for myself my life has had alot of problems and i've been unhappy about things not related to my environment. I was just curious - is there 1 person on this list who believes they had a happy childhood and were relatively happy without major emotional issues BEFORE they had ES symptoms? Thanks. That's a very interesting question. There is loads of evidence dating back 50+ years about how stress can cause all sorts of physical illness, including nervous system but also other things. Sue certainly had an unhappy childhood. She did not develop MCS and ES till she was past 40 but it is significant that her two biggest "slumps" came immediately after severe stress episodes. I wonder if this is a contributory reason why MCS/ES is so often misdiagnosed as "psychological" - doctors might assume "this person is likely to have past traumas so this is the cause", particularly if they have already had treatment for depression or anxiety. In passing, another contributory factor for MCS for some is if their bodies can't metabolise the antidepressant drugs given as treatment. In fact that might be another valid question; are there people on this list who have never taken SSRI's or similar antidepressants? Ian _____ From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Paul Coffman Sent: 12 March 2007 19:13 To: [hidden email] Subject: [eSens] happy childhood and ES I've read about how emotions can 'burn out' your nervous system and cause these problems. I know for myself my life has had alot of problems and i've been unhappy about things not related to my environment. I was just curious - is there 1 person on this list who believes they had a happy childhood and were relatively happy without major emotional issues BEFORE they had ES symptoms? Thanks. -- Paul Coffman [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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PAUL UK REPLIES TO PAUL COFFMAN - I can catagorically say that I had a very
interesting and happy childhood, and indeed today despite being a very sensitive ESser I remain optomistic, that is if I can manage to earn money and avoid large doses of ES, if I overdo it I am a different person, and there in lyes the frustration and anger for me becuase I tottally recognise the symptoms and the agresor ! Its also hits me in the pocket badly so that brings other stresses, but with this can come a gteater wisdom and perspective in the struggle that we face. This is a "real" problem for the human anatomy, dont beat yourself up here, its a common scenario the same for all persons who develop diseases,syndromes etc.. different phases are totally predictable, self examining,....you cant divorce the phychology from the person else you will have a cardboard cut out left ! You are correct that the best method is to work around the problem as much as you can, perhaps by being co-ersed to change your lifestyle may help your spiritual development on the way that cant be bad in the overall scheme of things. Keep faith in yourself, dont dougbt yourself ES is a direct biological response to a technology that has litterally swamped domestic society in such a short time. You might be the lucky one if living longer is your thing, but you must geta handle on the stress in whateverway you can by doing what is right for you as much as possible. This site gives you support/freinds who can mutually help each other. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Ian -
When I was younger I did take prozac for a few months, but stopped because of the side affects. I tried this new one recently 'lexapro' to see if would do anything for my ES but I couldn't tolerate it and stopped after a few days - stomach problems. I would like to pose the question has anyone else on this list tried SRRIs for their ES? On 3/12/07, Ian Kemp <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I've read about how emotions can 'burn out' your nervous system and > cause > these problems. I know for myself my life has had alot of problems and > i've > been unhappy about things not related to my environment. I was just > curious > - is there 1 person on this list who believes they had a happy childhood > and > were relatively happy without major emotional issues BEFORE they had ES > symptoms? Thanks. > > That's a very interesting question. There is loads of evidence dating back > 50+ years about how stress can cause all sorts of physical illness, > including nervous system but also other things. Sue certainly had an > unhappy > childhood. She did not develop MCS and ES till she was past 40 but it is > significant that her two biggest "slumps" came immediately after severe > stress episodes. > > I wonder if this is a contributory reason why MCS/ES is so often > misdiagnosed as "psychological" - doctors might assume "this person is > likely to have past traumas so this is the cause", particularly if they > have > already had treatment for depression or anxiety. In passing, another > contributory factor for MCS for some is if their bodies can't metabolise > the > antidepressant drugs given as treatment. In fact that might be another > valid question; are there people on this list who have never taken SSRI's > or > similar antidepressants? > > Ian > > _____ > > From: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: > [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Paul > Coffman > Sent: 12 March 2007 19:13 > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [eSens] happy childhood and ES > > I've read about how emotions can 'burn out' your nervous system and cause > these problems. I know for myself my life has had alot of problems and > i've > been unhappy about things not related to my environment. I was just > curious > - is there 1 person on this list who believes they had a happy childhood > and > were relatively happy without major emotional issues BEFORE they had ES > symptoms? Thanks. > > -- > Paul Coffman > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- Paul Coffman [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I can also say my childhood was normal. I was very happy to ride my
bicycle, hundreds of miles, down the roads with power lines along them, and play in the small forest right next to the Big power lines. I was also very happy to get GPA in high school for several semesters of 4.0, and was ahead of my class with computers when they came out. Right about then, I could "hear" some of the Apple monitors were "noisy", and painful. That was 8 years before my ES bloomed exponentially. I didn't have any emotional problems until my symptoms caused trouble. And to answer Ian's question, I have never tried any of the mentioned pharmeutical treatments. In fact, I have always avoided drugs, even painkillers until it got serious. And have returned to an organic diet, meaning I ate well as a child. Only when I worked long hours in the computer field, and the microwave oven became available, did I eat the modern diet. I consider that one factor in my downhill slide. Does that cover your question? Stewart Paul Coffman wrote: > I've read about how emotions can 'burn out' your nervous system and cause > these problems. I know for myself my life has had alot of problems and i've > been unhappy about things not related to my environment. I was just curious > - is there 1 person on this list who believes they had a happy childhood and > were relatively happy without major emotional issues BEFORE they had ES > symptoms? Thanks. > > > |
Thanks, Stuart and Paul UK provided the 'evidence' for emotional problems
not being a requirement for this problem. Thanks for sharing. On 3/13/07, S. Andreason <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I can also say my childhood was normal. I was very happy to ride my > bicycle, hundreds of miles, down the roads with power lines along them, > and play in the small forest right next to the Big power lines. I was > also very happy to get GPA in high school for several semesters of 4.0, > and was ahead of my class with computers when they came out. > > Right about then, I could "hear" some of the Apple monitors were > "noisy", and painful. > That was 8 years before my ES bloomed exponentially. > > I didn't have any emotional problems until my symptoms caused trouble. > > And to answer Ian's question, I have never tried any of the mentioned > pharmeutical treatments. > In fact, I have always avoided drugs, even painkillers until it got > serious. And have returned to an organic diet, meaning I ate well as a > child. > Only when I worked long hours in the computer field, and the microwave > oven became available, did I eat the modern diet. I consider that one > factor in my downhill slide. > > Does that cover your question? > > Stewart > > > Paul Coffman wrote: > > I've read about how emotions can 'burn out' your nervous system and > cause > > these problems. I know for myself my life has had alot of problems and > i've > > been unhappy about things not related to my environment. I was just > curious > > - is there 1 person on this list who believes they had a happy childhood > and > > were relatively happy without major emotional issues BEFORE they had ES > > symptoms? Thanks. > > > > > > > > > -- Paul Coffman [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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--- In [hidden email], "Paul Coffman" <pkcoff@...> wrote:
> > Ian - > > When I was younger I did take prozac for a few months, but stopped because > of the side affects. I tried this new one recently 'lexapro' to see if > would do anything for my ES but I couldn't tolerate it and stopped after a > few days - stomach problems. I would like to pose the question has anyone > else on this list tried SRRIs for their ES? > > On 3/12/07, Ian Kemp <ianandsue.kemp@...> wrote: > > > > I've read about how emotions can 'burn out' your nervous system and > > cause > > these problems. I know for myself my life has had alot of problems and > > i've > > been unhappy about things not related to my environment. I was just > > curious > > - is there 1 person on this list who believes they had a happy childhood > > and > > were relatively happy without major emotional issues BEFORE they had ES > > symptoms? Thanks. > > > > That's a very interesting question. There is loads of evidence dating back > > 50+ years about how stress can cause all sorts of physical illness, > > including nervous system but also other things. Sue certainly had an > > unhappy > > childhood. She did not develop MCS and ES till she was past 40 but it is > > significant that her two biggest "slumps" came immediately after severe > > stress episodes. > > > > I wonder if this is a contributory reason why MCS/ES is so often > > misdiagnosed as "psychological" - doctors might assume "this person is > > likely to have past traumas so this is the cause", particularly if they > > have > > already had treatment for depression or anxiety. In passing, another > > contributory factor for MCS for some is if their bodies can't metabolise > > the > > antidepressant drugs given as treatment. In fact that might be another > > valid question; are there people on this list who have never taken SSRI's > > or > > similar antidepressants? > > > > Ian > > > > _____ > > > > From: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: > > [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Paul > > Coffman > > Sent: 12 March 2007 19:13 > > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com> > > Subject: [eSens] happy childhood and ES > > > > I've read about how emotions can 'burn out' your nervous system and cause > > these problems. I know for myself my life has had alot of problems and > > i've > > been unhappy about things not related to my environment. I was just > > curious > > - is there 1 person on this list who believes they had a happy childhood > > and > > were relatively happy without major emotional issues BEFORE they had ES > > symptoms? Thanks. > > > > -- > > Paul Coffman > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > -- > Paul Coffman > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >I had polio as a toddler and took the Salk vaccine. I was placed shocked me each and every time I was placed into it. I could not breath without it til I got better mom said. As I look back with my family history of sensitivity, (I have an aunt that could not tolerate a radio on in her presence or machines close) it has been enlightening to realize just how my sensitivity has influenced my choices. I also was prescribed the medications mentioned or some that were for the same thing, I cannot recall the name of them. It did not help my ES. The extreme pain, nausea, burning, distress was still in my life and those doctors that prescribed the meds were mislead in thinking that it was psychological. We battle that today. As for emotional stress, my life is full of that still. I deal with it every day. My family is a handful. I had a semi happy childhood, so I cannot see the connection to that. |
im on lexapro due to severe depression and ocd, but to be honest i
think a lot of these meds exasperate photo sensitivity from which i suffer badly from its all a catch 22 to me pete On 17 Mar 2007, at 16:40, pegpare9 wrote: > --- In [hidden email], "Paul Coffman" <pkcoff@...> wrote: > > > > Ian - > > > > When I was younger I did take prozac for a few months, but stopped > because > > of the side affects. I tried this new one recently 'lexapro' to > see if > > would do anything for my ES but I couldn't tolerate it and stopped > after a > > few days - stomach problems. I would like to pose the question > has anyone > > else on this list tried SRRIs for their ES? > > > > On 3/12/07, Ian Kemp <ianandsue.kemp@...> wrote: > > > > > > I've read about how emotions can 'burn out' your nervous > system and > > > cause > > > these problems. I know for myself my life has had alot of > problems and > > > i've > > > been unhappy about things not related to my environment. I was > just > > > curious > > > - is there 1 person on this list who believes they had a happy > childhood > > > and > > > were relatively happy without major emotional issues BEFORE they > had ES > > > symptoms? Thanks. > > > > > > That's a very interesting question. There is loads of evidence > dating back > > > 50+ years about how stress can cause all sorts of physical > illness, > > > including nervous system but also other things. Sue certainly > had an > > > unhappy > > > childhood. She did not develop MCS and ES till she was past 40 > but it is > > > significant that her two biggest "slumps" came immediately after > severe > > > stress episodes. > > > > > > I wonder if this is a contributory reason why MCS/ES is so often > > > misdiagnosed as "psychological" - doctors might assume "this > person is > > > likely to have past traumas so this is the cause", particularly > if they > > > have > > > already had treatment for depression or anxiety. In passing, > another > > > contributory factor for MCS for some is if their bodies can't > metabolise > > > the > > > antidepressant drugs given as treatment. In fact that might be > another > > > valid question; are there people on this list who have never > taken SSRI's > > > or > > > similar antidepressants? > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: > > > [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of > Paul > > > Coffman > > > Sent: 12 March 2007 19:13 > > > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Subject: [eSens] happy childhood and ES > > > > > > I've read about how emotions can 'burn out' your nervous system > and cause > > > these problems. I know for myself my life has had alot of > problems and > > > i've > > > been unhappy about things not related to my environment. I was > just > > > curious > > > - is there 1 person on this list who believes they had a happy > childhood > > > and > > > were relatively happy without major emotional issues BEFORE they > had ES > > > symptoms? Thanks. > > > > > > -- > > > Paul Coffman > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Paul Coffman > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >I had polio as a toddler and took the Salk vaccine. I was placed > into an iron lung and with regression hypnosis, recalled that it > shocked me each and every time I was placed into it. I could not > breath without it til I got better mom said. As I look back with my > family history of sensitivity, (I have an aunt that could not > tolerate a radio on in her presence or machines close) it has been > enlightening to realize just how my sensitivity has influenced my > choices. I also was prescribed the medications mentioned or some > that were for the same thing, I cannot recall the name of them. It > did not help my ES. The extreme pain, nausea, burning, distress was > still in my life and those doctors that prescribed the meds were > mislead in thinking that it was psychological. We battle that today. > As for emotional stress, my life is full of that still. I deal with > it every day. My family is a handful. I had a semi happy childhood, > so I cannot see the connection to that. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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