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Patricia
ok.  i found it.  
this is the link to the video... 
and the interesting statements begin after the 30-minute mark... marc.  :) 
love, patricia 

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marc, have you considered the possibility that 
"Chemtrails and electromagnetic fields are synergistically linked." ???  

that is a line from 
the host of the conference about chemtrails.

i sent that link because someone in that conference 
mentioned how the metals in chemtrails - aluminum/barium 
make us especially good antennae and therefore susceptible to 
electromagnetic fields.  

unfortunately, i did not take note of who said it and where in the 
video it could be found and if i hear it again, i will send the exact 
location.  

i do believe that the metals being sprayed by the planes that 
leave persistent trails - internalized through breathing, drinking 
and eating those things that have been tainted by aluminum, 
barium and strontium - make us antennae and therefore, 
sensitive to EMF... and HAARP.  as we detox the heavy metals 
from our bodies, the less EMS we become.  

this is why i think it is important to understand the link between 
the two: chemtrails and EMS.  

love, patricia 



On Sep 19, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Marc Martin [via ES] wrote:

My problem with discussing chemtrails on an electrical sensitivity group is that it's off-topic.  On the Facebook ES group I run, I've banned people for going on and on about chemtrails...

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Fog Top
My now deceased father was a pilot who had a life-long love affair with airplanes and constantly watch the skies.  Later in his life as he watched the planes go over he would say, "something is not right" and would point out trail left behind the plane which he said did not look like a contrail.  I didn't follow what he was saying.
 
It wasn't until 2012 when I became ES, that I began to notice the rabid criss-cross patterns in the sky which would spread out and blend together to dim the sun and turn the sky  a whitish blue instead of a beautiful clear blue.  One day a weird trail was left over my house that appeared to be falling towards the earth instead of spreading out.  What looked like soap suds began to land on my lawn.  What in the world?  I looked it up on the internet and found that a man, I think he was in Arizona, had the same thing happen at his home and he gathered some "suds" in a jar. He sent the  "suds" to a lab for analysis.  The results included the toxic metals aluminum and barium. 
 
My father later developed Alzheimers.  I did an antennasearch.com which showed 86 cell towers and 700 antennas within a 4 mile radius of his Florida home. 
 
Pulsed microwave radiation has been shown to break down the blood-brain barrier thus allowing toxins into the brain and high levels of aluminum are reported in the autopsied brains of Alzheimer patients. It isn't surprising to me that reports of Alzheimers, which used to be considered an elderly disease is now appearing in people in their 40's and 50's being called 'early onset' Alzheimers.

 


 

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Subject: [ES] found the reference to EMF in the conference video...

ok.  i found it.  
this is the link to the video... 
and the interesting statements begin after the 30-minute mark... marc.  :) 
love, patricia 

--------

marc, have you considered the possibility that 
"Chemtrails and electromagnetic fields are synergistically linked." ???  

that is a line from 
the host of the conference about chemtrails.

i sent that link because someone in that conference 
mentioned how the metals in chemtrails - aluminum/barium 
make us especially good antennae and therefore susceptible to 
electromagnetic fields.  

unfortunately, i did not take note of who said it and where in the 
video it could be found and if i hear it again, i will send the exact 
location.  

i do believe that the metals being sprayed by the planes that 
leave persistent trails - internalized through breathing, drinking 
and eating those things that have been tainted by aluminum, 
barium and strontium - make us antennae and therefore, 
sensitive to EMF... and HAARP.  as we detox the heavy metals 
from our bodies, the less EMS we become.  

this is why i think it is important to understand the link between 
the two: chemtrails and EMS.  

love, patricia 



On Sep 19, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Marc Martin [via ES] wrote:

My problem with discussing chemtrails on an electrical sensitivity group is that it's off-topic.  On the Facebook ES group I run, I've banned people for going on and on about chemtrails...

Marc



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> i sent that link because someone in that conference
> mentioned how the metals in chemtrails - aluminum/barium
> make us especially good antennae and therefore susceptible to
> electromagnetic fields.  

Yes, although I've been tested for heavy metals on several occasions over the years, and I don't recall aluminum or barium ever showing up as a concern.

Also, I have to wonder how much aluminum exposure you would really get with a chemtrail, when many people get direct daily exposure to aluminum with things they make contact with or apply to their body (e.g. antiperspirants, soda cans, laptop computers)

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Aluminum is the third most abundant element in the Earth's crust, falling behind oxygen and silicon.

Read more: http://www.chemistryexplained.com/elements/A-C/Aluminum.html#ixzz3mJKHTIBV


The body is electric, screw it up with other electricity and it goes haywire. Dr Klinghardt has tested many patients and has mentioned that copper levels increase also. Does this mean we are being sprayed with copper? No.

 Jet engines are quite large and there is no catalytic converter to mop up their pollution, so yes the sky may seem a little more polluted at times.
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Patricia
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those are good questions, marc.  
where 'bouts do you live?  
do you see many of the persistent trails
where you live?  when you first became
ES, were you living/working under
persistent trails?  yet many people don't
notice the skies... they are so busy
watching the road, hurrying to work or
school, etc.

in your first paragraph, i'm
not altogether certain what you are saying...
not sure if you are saying that aluminum
and barium did or did not show up as a
problem in your heavy metals tests.  ???  
i am thinking you are saying they did not.  

as for the second paragraph:  
problem is that nano aluminum is small
enough to be breathed into the lungs and
is even small enough to be absorbed by
the skin, while aluminum in deodorants,
pots and pans and cans can be a problem,
but not as much of a problem as nano
particles.  larger sized particles are not as
readily absorbed as nano sized particles.  

you might find this interesting... i did.  

Ceriodaphnia dubia as a Potential Bio-Indicator
for Assessing Acute Aluminum Oxide Nanoparticle Toxicity in Fresh Water Environment

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0074003

"With increasing proliferation in the usage it is certain that aluminum oxide nanoparticles will ultimately find a way into the biosphere [17], chemtrails left by jet fuel have already raised concerns over their role increased incidences of Alzheimer disease [18]. Several relevant studies concerning aluminum oxide nanoparticles toxicity include its detrimental effects on prokaryotic microorganisms [19], microalgae species [20], aquatic cladocerans [21], earthworms [22], nematodes [23], zebra fish [24] and cell lines [25]. Despite the growing market size of aluminum oxide and its proven toxicity record we feel that there is a dearth of available literature concerning its toxicity in the aquatic environment and a significant knowledge gap exists between time dependent monitoring of bioavailability and resulting toxicity of nanoparticles [26]."

Neurosurgeon Russell Blaylock is another
good source of information.  here,
https://youtu.be/57dySwITpkE?t=1m42s
he talks about nano-Al and the blood-brain
barrier.  

as far as i can tell, EMS is a neurological
disorder due to heavy metal toxicity.  we
truly are acting as antenna for cell phone
towers, wifi, smart meters, etc.  at least
that's how my connect-the-dots mentality
sees it.    

love, patricia



On Sep 20, 2015, at 1:45 PM, Marc Martin [via ES] wrote:

> > i sent that link because someone in that conference
> > mentioned how the metals in chemtrails - aluminum/barium
> > make us especially good antennae and therefore susceptible to
> > electromagnetic fields.  
>
> Yes, although I've been tested for heavy metals on several occasions over the years, and I don't aluminum or barium have showed up as being a concern.
>
> Also, I have to wonder how much aluminum exposure you would really get with a chemtrail, when many people get direct daily exposure to aluminum with things they make contact with or apply to their body (e.g. antiperspirants, soda cans)
>
> Marc
>
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Patricia
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nano-aluminum is quite different.  
can you provide a link for the copper factor?  
i asked before if your skies are sprayed.  
i know that not all areas are. 
where do you live? 
patricia 
  


On Sep 20, 2015, at 2:59 PM, Cured of EHS [via ES] wrote:


Aluminum is the third most abundant element in the Earth's crust, falling behind oxygen and silicon.

Read more: http://www.chemistryexplained.com/elements/A-C/Aluminum.html#ixzz3mJKHTIBV


The body is electric, screw it up with other electricity and it goes haywire. Dr Klinghardt has tested many patients and has mentioned that copper levels increase also. Does this mean we are being sprayed with copper? No.

 Jet engines are quite large and there is no catalytic converter to mop up their pollution, so yes the sky may seem a little more polluted at times.
Everything can be a poison, it all depends on the dose.



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> those are good questions, marc.  
> where 'bouts do you live?  
> do you see many of the persistent trails
> where you live?  when you first became
> ES, were you living/working under
> persistent trails?

Washington state... yes, I've seen those for over 10 years, although they aren't there every day... can't say that I spent a whole lot of time outside, then or now...

Marc
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Patricia
I use negative ion generators to reduce the 
particulate matter in my house.  when i lived 
in eugene, OR, i had a NIG in every room.  
I can really tell the difference in air quality 
when they are or are not working.  
love, patricia 


On Sep 21, 2015, at 12:25 AM, Marc Martin [via ES] wrote:

> those are good questions, marc.  
> where 'bouts do you live?  
> do you see many of the persistent trails
> where you live?  when you first became
> ES, were you living/working under
> persistent trails?

Washington state... yes, I've seen those for over 10 years, although they aren't there every day... can't say that I spent a whole lot of time outside, then or now...

Marc



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Hawk
i heard an interesting podcast where a man called in and said that he suffered after being exposed to agent orange. and asked the doctor if they knew any treatment. and he said: there was basicly two chemicals in this stuff they sprayed that made trouble. and they have cured it with intravenus( ? ;) C vitamin/ascorbic acid.  !!
i also read about metal detox using c vit. and this stuff is cheap and very natural for the body. and the only thing that happens if you take to much... you go to toilet, so sudden.

other things.
hot baths!... with epsom salt, claybaths.  ive not done so much research on this since i dont have a bathtub. all kind of things can be added to baths to pull metal/toxins out of the system.  probably better and more effective than trough the kidney bladder way.
zeolite which i am currently on i think is a expensive alternative. i could have bought ten to twenty kilo of c-vit for the amount i spent.
i plan on upping my c vit. 4-5gram a day. i dont wanna be no antenna again.. ever! PEACE
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Patricia
thanks for the info and inspiration, hawk!  
love, patricia


On Sep 25, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Hawk [via ES] wrote:

i heard an interesting podcast where a man called in and said that he suffered after being exposed to agent orange. and asked the doctor if they knew any treatment. and he said: there was basicly two chemicals in this stuff they sprayed that made trouble. and they have cured it with intravenus( ? ;) C vitamin/ascorbic acid.  !!
i also read about metal detox using c vit. and this stuff is cheap and very natural for the body. and the only thing that happens if you take to much... you go to toilet, so sudden.

other things.
hot baths!... with epsom salt, claybaths.  ive not done so much research on this since i dont have a bathtub. all kind of things can be added to baths to pull metal/toxins out of the system.  probably better and more effective than trough the kidney bladder way.
zeolite which i am currently on i think is a expensive alternative. i could have bought ten to twenty kilo of c-vit for the amount i spent.
i plan on upping my c vit. 4-5gram a day. i dont wanna be no antenna again.. ever! PEACE


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I've found that ascorbic acid can put you into acidosis, if you're prone to that... so one may need to counteract that with whatever you've found that works to alkalize yourself.

Marc