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lindameetoo
I have tried earth calm, safe space, Q-link. I just sent back the graham filters.They did nothing, except cost a lot. I have a little crystal with a diode in it the use to help. Not much anymore. I guess I need a stronger one. Has anyone use a device to protect from wifi and cell towers? I just found out I have 70 cell towers within 4 miles of my house and 40 antennas. I also have a transformer in my driveway right next to my house. I just found out my house is flip flopped so I won't be able to move. I feel like I'm getting more sensitive every day. I just started the MMS detox. I'm going really s l o w. In the past detoxing make me really sick.I felt like I had acid running through my veins instead of blood. Not a good feeling. I need to build the immune system. Working on it. I hope all have a great day.

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Marc Martin
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> I have tried earth calm, safe space, Q-link. I just sent back the graham
> filters. They did nothing, except cost a lot.

Hmmm, I've noticed ALL of those devices doing something, although I
didn't necessarily think that they were doing GOOD things for me...

> Has anyone use a device to protect from wifi and cell
> towers?

Have you tried anything from quantumproducts.com? I'd try the cheapest
item they have first (~$30 power conditioner) and if you don't notice
that helping, don't bother with their more expensive items.

> In the past detoxing make me
> really sick.I felt like I had acid running through my veins instead of
> blood.

Have you tried things to help alkalize your body? I use "H-Minus"
from e3Live to relieve acidity, although you may find that
simply using baking soda mixed in water helpful.

Marc

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Loni Rosser
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What did you think of earth calm & the QLink?  LOni

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From: lindameetoo <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] emf protection devices
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, July 3, 2010, 9:19 AM


 



I have tried earth calm, safe space, Q-link. I just sent back the graham filters.They did nothing, except cost a lot. I have a little crystal with a diode in it the use to help. Not much anymore. I guess I need a stronger one. Has anyone use a device to protect from wifi and cell towers? I just found out I have 70 cell towers within 4 miles of my house and 40 antennas. I also have a transformer in my driveway right next to my house. I just found out my house is flip flopped so I won't be able to move. I feel like I'm getting more sensitive every day. I just started the MMS detox. I'm going really s l o w. In the past detoxing make me really sick.I felt like I had acid running through my veins instead of blood. Not a good feeling. I need to build the immune system. Working on it. I hope all have a great day.









     

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lindameetoo
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Thanks, I have not heard of these products. I will look them up. I really don't think I'm from this planet. all the gadgets make me sick. I need to buy some property is the forest or on the beach, and live in a tent. That might not be soooo bad. :)

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

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> > I have tried earth calm, safe space, Q-link. I just sent back the graham
> > filters. They did nothing, except cost a lot.
>
> Hmmm, I've noticed ALL of those devices doing something, although I
> didn't necessarily think that they were doing GOOD things for me...
>
> > Has anyone use a device to protect from wifi and cell
> > towers?
>
> Have you tried anything from quantumproducts.com? I'd try the cheapest
> item they have first (~$30 power conditioner) and if you don't notice
> that helping, don't bother with their more expensive items.
>
> > In the past detoxing make me
> > really sick.I felt like I had acid running through my veins instead of
> > blood.
>
> Have you tried things to help alkalize your body? I use "H-Minus"
> from e3Live to relieve acidity, although you may find that
> simply using baking soda mixed in water helpful.
>
> Marc
>

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lindameetoo
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Earth calm has to be introduced slowly. I did the protocal to the letter. It didn't do anything. I felt no different. Q-Link seemed to help at first, I still where it sometimes, hoping it will help me feel better. Not really.Safe space made me sicker. The necklace from Ener-G Polari-T, works a little. Getting away from electricity work! I thought I was terminal until I went camping for a couple days. I felt about 75% better. I think I could get better if I could live in a field or by the beach. Not in Southern California. I have 5 more years before I can retire. Then I can take my $500. A month and live in a field. That will be all I can afford. Ain't life grand. :-)
I am Blessed
Linda

--- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote:

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> What did you think of earth calm & the QLink?  LOni
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> --- On Sat, 7/3/10, lindameetoo <lindameetoo@...> wrote:
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> Subject: [eSens] emf protection devices
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Saturday, July 3, 2010, 9:19 AM
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cinciripini
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Hi

the experience we had (the EHS is my wife) is TO LEAVE as far as possible EMF sources as soon as possible.

We didn't trust in any of these gadgets that are good only for the producers.

Immediately, a long showers and staining in a water + plus salt are usefullto discharge. Ti discharge is essential to touch the feet with ground that is connected to the rock at 100%. A 'walking' in the river was usufell.

Faraday cage is usefull when you'll be discarhed ... not now ! We tested it!

But again and agin the most important is to ecape !
It costs less ... than the life ! I don't yoke

Good luck


Giorgio

--- In [hidden email], "lindameetoo" <lindameetoo@...> wrote:
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> I have tried earth calm, safe space, Q-link. I just sent back the graham filters.They did nothing, except cost a lot. I have a little crystal with adiode in it the use to help. Not much anymore. I guess I need a stronger one. Has anyone use a device to protect from wifi and cell towers? I just found out I have 70 cell towers within 4 miles of my house and 40 antennas. Ialso have a transformer in my driveway right next to my house. I just found out my house is flip flopped so I won't be able to move. I feel like I'm getting more sensitive every day. I just started the MMS detox. I'm going really s l o w. In the past detoxing make me really sick.I felt like I had acid running through my veins instead of blood. Not a good feeling. I need to build the immune system. Working on it. I hope all have a great day.
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lolahunt3
Do rocks conduct electricity? If one is standing on a big rock, that is resting on the ground/dirt/earth, will one's body be grounded? -Sue

--- In [hidden email], "giorgiocinci" <CINCIRIPINI@...> wrote:

>
> Hi
>
> the experience we had (the EHS is my wife) is TO LEAVE as far as possibleEMF sources as soon as possible.
>
> We didn't trust in any of these gadgets that are good only for the producers.
>
> Immediately, a long showers and staining in a water + plus salt are usefull to discharge. Ti discharge is essential to touch the feet with ground that is connected to the rock at 100%. A 'walking' in the river was usufell.
>
> Faraday cage is usefull when you'll be discarhed ... not now ! We tested it!
>
> But again and agin the most important is to ecape !
> It costs less ... than the life ! I don't yoke
>
> Good luck
>
>
> Giorgio
>
> --- In [hidden email], "lindameetoo" <lindameetoo@> wrote:
> >
> > I have tried earth calm, safe space, Q-link. I just sent back the graham filters.They did nothing, except cost a lot. I have a little crystal witha diode in it the use to help. Not much anymore. I guess I need a strongerone. Has anyone use a device to protect from wifi and cell towers? I just found out I have 70 cell towers within 4 miles of my house and 40 antennas.I also have a transformer in my driveway right next to my house. I just found out my house is flip flopped so I won't be able to move. I feel like I'm getting more sensitive every day. I just started the MMS detox. I'm goingreally s l o w. In the past detoxing make me really sick.I felt like I hadacid running through my veins instead of blood. Not a good feeling. I needto build the immune system. Working on it. I hope all have a great day.
> >
>

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evie15422
Hi, Sue,
 
Yes, rocks do conduct frequencies.  The problem is they can conduct toyou or away from you.  So, you must determine which is happening whenyou hang out on a rock.  If you are next to a large body of water, itis most likely always conducting to the large body of water, since your body is much smaller and water is what attracts the emfs.

Sorry I was not home again all week and I didn't get to answer your email asking for the name of the 2 books I have on house wiring.  FINALLY, here they are:  ;)
 
"Silencing the Fields" by Edward Leeper
 
"Tracing EMFs in Building Wiring and Grounding" by Karl Riley
 
I hope these help you get a leg up on electricity.  They did help me very much, but I can't say I am still a whiz in the area.  lol  I did figure out that my house had plenty of "ground loops" and was not grounded properly, etc, from these books.  They can both be bought online.  Just google them and you will get a site pop up.
 
I wish you the best,
Diane/Evie
 

--- On Sun, 7/4/10, lolahunt3 <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: lolahunt3 <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 11:13 AM


 



Do rocks conduct electricity? If one is standing on a big rock, that is resting on the ground/dirt/earth, will one's body be grounded? -Sue

--- In [hidden email], "giorgiocinci" <CINCIRIPINI@...> wrote:

>
> Hi
>
> the experience we had (the EHS is my wife) is TO LEAVE as far as possibleEMF sources as soon as possible.
>
> We didn't trust in any of these gadgets that are good only for the producers.
>
> Immediately, a long showers and staining in a water + plus salt are usefull to discharge. Ti discharge is essential to touch the feet with ground that is connected to the rock at 100%. A 'walking' in the river was usufell.
>
> Faraday cage is usefull when you'll be discarhed ... not now ! We tested it!
>
> But again and agin the most important is to ecape !
> It costs less ... than the life ! I don't yoke
>
> Good luck
>
>
> Giorgio
>
> --- In [hidden email], "lindameetoo" <lindameetoo@> wrote:
> >
> > I have tried earth calm, safe space, Q-link. I just sent back the graham filters.They did nothing, except cost a lot. I have a little crystal witha diode in it the use to help. Not much anymore. I guess I need a strongerone. Has anyone use a device to protect from wifi and cell towers? I just found out I have 70 cell towers within 4 miles of my house and 40 antennas.I also have a transformer in my driveway right next to my house. I just found out my house is flip flopped so I won't be able to move. I feel like I'm getting more sensitive every day. I just started the MMS detox. I'm goingreally s l o w. In the past detoxing make me really sick.I felt like I hadacid running through my veins instead of blood. Not a good feeling. I needto build the immune system. Working on it. I hope all have a great day.
> >
>










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lolahunt3
Thank you, Evie. I have just read an entire book on grounding one's body (Earthing by Clinton Ober, et al.).

They didn't mention the large-body-of-water effect?

Always more to understand and learn.

Thank you for the 2 book titles. They sound great.

All best,
Sue

--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:

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> Hi, Sue,
>  
> Yes, rocks do conduct frequencies.  The problem is they can conduct to you or away from you.  So, you must determine which is happening when you hang out on a rock.  If you are next to a large body of water, it is most likely always conducting to the large body of water, since your body is much smaller and water is what attracts the emfs.
>
> Sorry I was not home again all week and I didn't get to answer your emailasking for the name of the 2 books I have on house wiring.  FINALLY, here they are:  ;)
>  
> "Silencing the Fields" by Edward Leeper
>  
> "Tracing EMFs in Building Wiring and Grounding" by Karl Riley
>  
> I hope these help you get a leg up on electricity.  They did help mevery much, but I can't say I am still a whiz in the area.  lol  I did figure out that my house had plenty of "ground loops" and was not grounded properly, etc, from these books.  They can both be bought online.  Just google them and you will get a site pop up.
>  
> I wish you the best,
> Diane/Evie
>  
>
> --- On Sun, 7/4/10, lolahunt3 <marydelamer@...> wrote:
>
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> From: lolahunt3 <marydelamer@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 11:13 AM
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>  
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> Do rocks conduct electricity? If one is standing on a big rock, that is resting on the ground/dirt/earth, will one's body be grounded? -Sue
>
> --- In [hidden email], "giorgiocinci" <CINCIRIPINI@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > the experience we had (the EHS is my wife) is TO LEAVE as far as possible EMF sources as soon as possible.
> >
> > We didn't trust in any of these gadgets that are good only for the producers.
> >
> > Immediately, a long showers and staining in a water + plus salt are usefull to discharge. Ti discharge is essential to touch the feet with ground that is connected to the rock at 100%. A 'walking' in the river was usufell.
> >
> > Faraday cage is usefull when you'll be discarhed ... not now ! We tested it!
> >
> > But again and agin the most important is to ecape !
> > It costs less ... than the life ! I don't yoke
> >
> > Good luck
> >
> >
> > Giorgio
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "lindameetoo" <lindameetoo@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have tried earth calm, safe space, Q-link. I just sent back the graham filters.They did nothing, except cost a lot. I have a little crystal with a diode in it the use to help. Not much anymore. I guess I need a stronger one. Has anyone use a device to protect from wifi and cell towers? I just found out I have 70 cell towers within 4 miles of my house and 40 antennas. I also have a transformer in my driveway right next to my house. I just found out my house is flip flopped so I won't be able to move. I feel like I'm getting more sensitive every day. I just started the MMS detox. I'm going really s l o w. In the past detoxing make me really sick.I felt like I had acid running through my veins instead of blood. Not a good feeling. I need to build the immune system. Working on it. I hope all have a great day.
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lazaro
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Hi, there are many way to correct the emf's in a home.
I have a Green-energy-product.com partner, that I work woth in homes with to save energy and make efficient the home.
I have found that EMF's do store in stones, and walls do store energy and electrical wiring do produces EMF,s from inside the tubing.
There are two factors to consider when you are doing the midigation of the EMF's.
1) The device producing the EMF's is most likely not working effiecient, and they are dumping into the wire the extra harmonics( multiple factor of 60hz.) This can be helped by special device I have installed for my customers.
2) Identify the device and change the product to an efficient one. I find that normal dryers produce on my computer survey up to 250 amps of power forone second, this is disturbing because it will cost a dollar to start every time. The electric oven by GE produce in the front were the knobs are very high EMf's when off. An so on, there are many other devices that are very inefficient.
There are devices to help mitigate, and they work well. I use mylar film for energies, and make my personal devices for water softening which also helps control EMF's, 13,000 guass trap systems and other products.
I use a computer to detect the Harmonics and unbalances in the electrical system, and work from this data. Reducing the extra harmonics will allow your home to be EMF's balanced not free.
This them will allow your to midigate the other issues.
The final issue is to allow good energies through and attract forces that allow you to be grounded and balanced.
Water does store energy due to the mono-pole atomic stucture that hold highspin state atom in the hidden pocket between the h2O affected by EMF's.
Hope this helps.
Lazaro
Lazaro's Green Service, llc.
Green-Energy-Products.com
kombuchapower.com


--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:
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> Hi, Sue,
>  
> Yes, rocks do conduct frequencies.  The problem is they can conduct to you or away from you.  So, you must determine which is happening when you hang out on a rock.  If you are next to a large body of water, it is most likely always conducting to the large body of water, since your body is much smaller and water is what attracts the emfs.

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evie15422
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Hi again, Sue,
 
Was the book written from the perspective of a person with ES, or was it written from the perspective of people who practice Eastern philosophies, etc?  I find alot of info on grounding never mentions ES and so the writer is not writing according to what we can feel.  If I go to the beach these days, I will find many people using wifi gadgets which I can "feel", but what I find is I cannot feel them in the water at all.  I would like to hear, tho, if this is the case with all people with ES.  I am no longer very (ES) sensitive.  I can usually tell wherethere are frequencies, but they usually do not affect me (I had bp plummeting, chills, headaches, etc, etc, near wireless and digital emfs in the past).  I still do get electrical charging--taking on electricity in my body.  However, I can easily keep that under control by "grounding" myself regularly. 
 
Diane/Evie

--- On Sun, 7/4/10, lolahunt3 <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: lolahunt3 <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 12:16 PM


 



Thank you, Evie. I have just read an entire book on grounding one's body (Earthing by Clinton Ober, et al.).

They didn't mention the large-body-of-water effect?

Always more to understand and learn.

Thank you for the 2 book titles. They sound great.

All best,
Sue

--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:

>
> Hi, Sue,
>  
> Yes, rocks do conduct frequencies.  The problem is they can conduct to you or away from you.  So, you must determine which is happening when you hang out on a rock.  If you are next to a large body of water, it is most likely always conducting to the large body of water, since your body is much smaller and water is what attracts the emfs.
>
> Sorry I was not home again all week and I didn't get to answer your emailasking for the name of the 2 books I have on house wiring.  FINALLY, here they are:  ;)
>  
> "Silencing the Fields" by Edward Leeper
>  
> "Tracing EMFs in Building Wiring and Grounding" by Karl Riley
>  
> I hope these help you get a leg up on electricity.  They did help me very much, but I can't say I am still a whiz in the area.  lol  I did figure out that my house had plenty of "ground loops" and was not grounded properly, etc, from these books.  They can both be bought online.  Just google them and youwill get a site pop up.
>  
> I wish you the best,
> Diane/Evie
>  
>
> --- On Sun, 7/4/10, lolahunt3 <marydelamer@...> wrote:
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> From: lolahunt3 <marydelamer@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 11:13 AM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Do rocks conduct electricity? If one is standing on a big rock, that is resting on the ground/dirt/earth, will one's body be grounded? -Sue
>
> --- In [hidden email], "giorgiocinci" <CINCIRIPINI@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > the experience we had (the EHS is my wife) is TO LEAVE as far as possible EMF sources as soon as possible.
> >
> > We didn't trust in any of these gadgets that are good only for the producers.
> >
> > Immediately, a long showers and staining in a water + plus salt are usefull to discharge. Ti discharge is essential to touch the feet with ground that is connected to the rock at 100%. A 'walking' in the river was usufell.
> >
> > Faraday cage is usefull when you'll be discarhed ... not now ! We tested it!
> >
> > But again and agin the most important is to ecape !
> > It costs less ... than the life ! I don't yoke
> >
> > Good luck
> >
> >
> > Giorgio
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "lindameetoo" <lindameetoo@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have tried earth calm, safe space, Q-link. I just sent back the graham filters.They did nothing, except cost a lot. I have a little crystal with a diode in it the use to help. Not much anymore. I guess I need a stronger one. Has anyone use a device to protect from wifi and cell towers? I just found out I have 70 cell towers within 4 miles of my house and 40 antennas. I also have a transformer in my driveway right next to my house. I just found out my house is flip flopped so I won't be able to move. I feel like I'm getting more sensitive every day. I just started the MMS detox. I'm going really s l o w. In the past detoxing make me really sick.I felt like I had acid running through my veins instead of blood. Not a good feeling. I need to build the immune system. Working on it. I hope all have a great day.
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evie15422
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Hi, Linda,
 
Or you can learn how to help yourself get better!  It *does* happen sometimes!  I was bed-bound for 13 years and ill all my life (and some of the all my life illness WAS the type of ES you mention that you have).  I decided to quit waiting on doctors to help me (in my early 40s) and started to try to figure it out myself.  It took a decade just to get to the point where I could figure out where to begin.  Today I still have problems, but I can live a relatively normal life.  I am out of bed, I have energy again, and my ES is minor. 
 
I sent you all sorts of info on what I did when you first joined the group and you didn't even ask a question about it, Linda.  I know it is hardto know who to believe, but sometimes you are so far down, you need to reach out and look at just what the freebies are!  There is alot you can do for free or almost free!  You have found one thing--hang around as much as possible near the ocean or in the forest.  And while there, take info to read on how to heal your body!  We get no kudos for feelingsorry for ourselves.  We, infact, don't have the LUXURY of feeling sorry for ourselves.  It is a waste of our days and health to go there, because while we are doing it, our bodies are just getting more fried by the electrics and more toxified by all the chemical crap around us. 
 
What most people are actually upset about having to "give up", when they find they are ES, wasn't even in the Creator's plans for us to begin with!  We are living on the edge of a precipice here: humanity is ata cross roads.  We have one real option... dial back modern living orend the planet.  Some of us here are some of the only people who havefigured this out yet.  But, mark my words, there will be a whole lot more people joining us in this thought after all the crap from the oilspill in the Gulf settles in!  Look at what has been changed and in the amount of time it was changed.  People talk about evolving.... comeon, give me a break!  Do you really think people were EVER meant to evolve this much, this fast???  And what about the stress to the planet?  THAT is even worse than what people are having to endure.  So,yes, you ARE blessed!  You have the blessing of being one
of the very few on this planet who is getting a crash course on nature's REALITY.  We are, at our core, not evolved creatures, but natural beings, meant to live in natural surroundings.  We are currently trashing our Earth faster than you know.  But nature has gotten your attention!  I bet you are going to pay more attention to that aspect now!
 
My 2 cents.  I don't mean this harshly, Linda.  I mean it as a true help.  Truly...
Bless you, Dear,
Diane/Evie

--- On Sat, 7/3/10, lindameetoo <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: lindameetoo <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, July 3, 2010, 10:24 PM


 



Earth calm has to be introduced slowly. I did the protocal to the letter. It didn't do anything. I felt no different. Q-Link seemed to help at first, I still where it sometimes, hoping it will help me feel better. Not really.Safe space made me sicker. The necklace from Ener-G Polari-T, works a little. Getting away from electricity work! I thought I was terminal until I went camping for a couple days. I felt about 75% better. I think I could get better if I could live in a field or by the beach. Not in Southern California. I have 5 more years before I can retire. Then I can take my $500. A month and live in a field. That will be all I can afford. Ain't life grand. :-)
I am Blessed
Linda

--- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote:
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> What did you think of
earth calm & the QLink?  LOni

>
> --- On Sat, 7/3/10, lindameetoo <lindameetoo@...> wrote:
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> From: lindameetoo <lindameetoo@...>
> Subject: [eSens] emf protection devices
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Saturday, July 3, 2010, 9:19 AM
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my house. I just found out my house is flip flopped so I won't be able to move. I feel like I'm getting more sensitive every day. I just started the MMS detox. I'm going really s l o w. In the past detoxing make me really sick.I felt like I had acid running through my veins instead of blood. Not a good feeling. I need to build the immune system. Working on it. I hope all have a great day.

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Hey Diane!
 
Which book is better in layman's terms & most informative on guiding one with their home?
 
How do you find out if your house is grounded? Is through those outlet testers? 
 
I'm pretty clueless.
 
Loni

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From: Evie <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 8:49 AM


 



Hi, Sue,
 
Yes, rocks do conduct frequencies.  The problem is they can conduct toyou or away from you.  So, you must determine which is happening whenyou hang out on a rock.  If you are next to a large body of water, itis most likely always conducting to the large body of water, since your body is much smaller and water is what attracts the emfs.

Sorry I was not home again all week and I didn't get to answer your email asking for the name of the 2 books I have on house wiring.  FINALLY, here they are:  ;)
 
"Silencing the Fields" by Edward Leeper
 
"Tracing EMFs in Building Wiring and Grounding" by Karl Riley
 
I hope these help you get a leg up on electricity.  They did help me very much, but I can't say I am still a whiz in the area.  lol  I did figure out that my house had plenty of "ground loops" and was not grounded properly, etc, from these books.  They can both be bought online.  Just google them and you will get a site pop up.
 
I wish you the best,
Diane/Evie
 

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From: lolahunt3 <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 11:13 AM

 

Do rocks conduct electricity? If one is standing on a big rock, that is resting on the ground/dirt/earth, will one's body be grounded? -Sue

--- In [hidden email], "giorgiocinci" <CINCIRIPINI@...> wrote:

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> Hi
>
> the experience we had (the EHS is my wife) is TO LEAVE as far as possibleEMF sources as soon as possible.
>
> We didn't trust in any of these gadgets that are good only for the producers.
>
> Immediately, a long showers and staining in a water + plus salt are usefull to discharge. Ti discharge is essential to touch the feet with ground that is connected to the rock at 100%. A 'walking' in the river was usufell.
>
> Faraday cage is usefull when you'll be discarhed ... not now ! We tested it!
>
> But again and agin the most important is to ecape !
> It costs less ... than the life ! I don't yoke
>
> Good luck
>
>
> Giorgio
>
> --- In [hidden email], "lindameetoo" <lindameetoo@> wrote:
> >
> > I have tried earth calm, safe space, Q-link. I just sent back the graham filters.They did nothing, except cost a lot. I have a little crystal witha diode in it the use to help. Not much anymore. I guess I need a strongerone. Has anyone use a device to protect from wifi and cell towers? I just found out I have 70 cell towers within 4 miles of my house and 40 antennas.I also have a transformer in my driveway right next to my house. I just found out my house is flip flopped so I won't be able to move. I feel like I'm getting more sensitive every day. I just started the MMS detox. I'm goingreally s l o w. In the past detoxing make me really sick.I felt like I hadacid running through my veins instead of blood. Not a good feeling. I needto build the immune system. Working on it. I hope all have a great day.
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Loni Rosser
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Diane, I loved this! thank you. Loni

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Hi, Linda,
 
Or you can learn how to help yourself get better!  It *does* happen sometimes!  I was bed-bound for 13 years and ill all my life (and some of the all my life illness WAS the type of ES you mention that you have).  I decided to quit waiting on doctors to help me (in my early 40s) and started to try to figure it out myself.  It took a decade just to get to the point where I could figure out where to begin.  Today I still have problems, but I can live a relatively normal life.  I am out of bed, I have energy again, and my ES is minor. 
 
I sent you all sorts of info on what I did when you first joined the group and you didn't even ask a question about it, Linda.  I know it is hardto know who to believe, but sometimes you are so far down, you need to reach out and look at just what the freebies are!  There is alot you can do for free or almost free!  You have found one thing--hang around as much as possible near the ocean or in the forest.  And while there, take info to read on how to heal your body!  We get no kudos for feelingsorry for ourselves.  We, infact, don't have the LUXURY of feeling sorry for ourselves.  It is a waste of our days and health to go there, because while we are doing it, our bodies are just getting more fried by the electrics and more toxified by all the chemical crap around us. 
 
What most people are actually upset about having to "give up", when they find they are ES, wasn't even in the Creator's plans for us to begin with!  We are living on the edge of a precipice here: humanity is ata cross roads.  We have one real option... dial back modern living orend the planet.  Some of us here are some of the only people who havefigured this out yet.  But, mark my words, there will be a whole lot more people joining us in this thought after all the crap from the oilspill in the Gulf settles in!  Look at what has been changed and in the amount of time it was changed.  People talk about evolving.... comeon, give me a break!  Do you really think people were EVER meant to evolve this much, this fast???  And what about the stress to the planet?  THAT is even worse than what people are having to endure.  So,yes, you ARE blessed!  You have the blessing of being one
of the very few on this planet who is getting a crash course on nature's REALITY.  We are, at our core, not evolved creatures, but natural beings, meant to live in natural surroundings.  We are currently trashing our Earth faster than you know.  But nature has gotten your attention!  I bet you are going to pay more attention to that aspect now!
 
My 2 cents.  I don't mean this harshly, Linda.  I mean it as a true help.  Truly...
Bless you, Dear,
Diane/Evie

--- On Sat, 7/3/10, lindameetoo <[hidden email]> wrote:

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Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, July 3, 2010, 10:24 PM

 

Earth calm has to be introduced slowly. I did the protocal to the letter. It didn't do anything. I felt no different. Q-Link seemed to help at first, I still where it sometimes, hoping it will help me feel better. Not really.Safe space made me sicker. The necklace from Ener-G Polari-T, works a little. Getting away from electricity work! I thought I was terminal until I went camping for a couple days. I felt about 75% better. I think I could get better if I could live in a field or by the beach. Not in Southern California. I have 5 more years before I can retire. Then I can take my $500. A month and live in a field. That will be all I can afford. Ain't life grand. :-)
I am Blessed
Linda

--- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote:
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> What did you think of
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my house. I just found out my house is flip flopped so I won't be able to move. I feel like I'm getting more sensitive every day. I just started the MMS detox. I'm going really s l o w. In the past detoxing make me really sick.I felt like I had acid running through my veins instead of blood. Not a good feeling. I need to build the immune system. Working on it. I hope all have a great day.

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Hi Diane, I remember that you sent a lot of information. I read it and havebeen implementing some thing into my life. I deleted the email instead of saving it. I have done that with a few things I wanted to save. The brain fog has been bad lately.
I have been fighting this thing for about 13 years. I have recently been finding it harder to do so. I have found keeping busy has helped me. It's when I relax that I notice the symptoms the most. I walk barefoot more these days. Grounding is important. I'm working on my immune system. I'm looking for a supplement that has all the amino acids I need. I prefer liquid vitamins and minerals. Pills get stuck in the throat sometimes. I started a MMS detox a few days ago. I'm going slow, but so far no bad effects.
My Doctor just wrote me a prescription to move from this house. We tried toget pre-approved to go looking for another house. Found out my house has no equity right now. I have to sell this house first. then get a new loan. I'm not going to stress myself out, worrying about what I can't do right now. I doing what I can do right now. Detox, eat right, exercise and pray.
This world is screwed up. Most people haven't a clue what we are doing to this planet. They don't have a clue what they are doing to their health. Trying to educate people on health issues and EMF is like preaching to them about God. They just don't want to hear it.
I'm going to keep spreading the news about both issues.
I hope you have a great day
Be Blessed
Linda

--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:

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> Hi, Linda,
>  
> Or you can learn how to help yourself get better!  It *does* happen sometimes!  I was bed-bound for 13 years and ill all my life (and someof the all my life illness WAS the type of ES you mention that you have).  I decided to quit waiting on doctors to help me (in my early 40s) and started to try to figure it out myself.  It took a decade just to get to the point where I could figure out where to begin.  Today I still have problems, but I can live a relatively normal life.  I am out of bed, I have energy again, and my ES is minor. 
>  
> I sent you all sorts of info on what I did when you first joined the group and you didn't even ask a question about it, Linda.  I know it is hard to know who to believe, but sometimes you are so far down, you need to reach out and look at just what the freebies are!  There is alot you can do for free or almost free!  You have found one thing--hang around as much as possible near the ocean or in the forest.  And while there, take info to read on how to heal your body!  We get no kudos for feeling sorry for ourselves.  We, infact, don't have the LUXURY of feeling sorry for ourselves.  It is a waste of our days and health to go there, because while we are doing it, our bodies are just getting more fried by the electrics and more toxified by all the chemical crap around us. 
>  
> What most people are actually upset about having to "give up", when they find they are ES, wasn't even in the Creator's plans for us to begin with!  We are living on the edge of a precipice here: humanity isat a cross roads.  We have one real option... dial back modern livingor end the planet.  Some of us here are some of the only people who have figured this out yet.  But, mark my words, there will be a whole lot more people joining us in this thought after all the crap from the oil spill in the Gulf settles in!  Look at what has been changed and in the amount of time it was changed.  People talk about evolving.... come on, give me a break!  Do you really think people were EVER meant to evolve this much, this fast???  And what about the stress to the planet?  THAT is even worse than what people are having to endure.  So, yes, you ARE blessed!  You have the blessing of being one
> of the very few on this planet who is getting a crash course on nature'sREALITY.  We are, at our core, not evolved creatures, but natural beings, meant to live in natural surroundings.  We are currently trashingour Earth faster than you know.  But nature has gotten your attention!  I bet you are going to pay more attention to that aspect now!
>  
> My 2 cents.  I don't mean this harshly, Linda.  I mean it as a true help.  Truly...
> Bless you, Dear,
> Diane/Evie
>
> --- On Sat, 7/3/10, lindameetoo <lindameetoo@...> wrote:
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> From: lindameetoo <lindameetoo@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Saturday, July 3, 2010, 10:24 PM
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> Earth calm has to be introduced slowly. I did the protocal to the letter.It didn't do anything. I felt no different. Q-Link seemed to help at first, I still where it sometimes, hoping it will help me feel better. Not really. Safe space made me sicker. The necklace from Ener-G Polari-T, works a little. Getting away from electricity work! I thought I was terminal until I went camping for a couple days. I felt about 75% better. I think I could get better if I could live in a field or by the beach. Not in Southern California. I have 5 more years before I can retire. Then I can take my $500. A month and live in a field. That will be all I can afford. Ain't life grand. :-)
> I am Blessed
> Linda
>
> --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@> wrote:
> >
> > What did you think of
> earth calm & the QLink?  LOni
> >
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> my house. I just found out my house is flip flopped so I won't be able to move. I feel like I'm getting more sensitive every day. I just started the MMS detox. I'm going really s l o w. In the past detoxing make me really sick.I felt like I had acid running through my veins instead of blood. Not a good feeling. I need to build the immune system. Working on it. I hope all have a great day.
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The authors are well aware of Electrical Hypersensitivity. There are 2 rivetting stories in the book about people with severe Electrical Hypersensitivity, who got their lives back, after introducing body grounding (sleeping grounded all night, working in front of the computer grounded, etc....). Perhaps it is more effective at healing people with EHS who are super-sensitive to powerlines/electrical wiring rather than wi-fi technologies? I still don't understand these distinctions. I also just found out that some people are intolerant of the earth's electrical energies?

It sounds like grounding oneself in the water is most powerful. They also say to wet the soil, if you are grounding yourself on dirt -- it makes the conduction better.

I am finding that I can deeply relax, when I do my daily "grounding" (sitting with my feet on wettened dirt), and I can feel more clear-minded and energized. It's supposed to be great for inflammation (positive free radicalsof inflammation are "doused out" by electrons from the earth's surface). At the very least, it is the only time of day in Berkeley -- when I am grounding myself -- where I feel more relaxed and present. It seems to be having a dramatic positive effect on me. (Even as I sit among 32 nearby Smart Meters and all Berkeley's electropollution.)

-Sue

--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:

>
> Hi again, Sue,
>  
> Was the book written from the perspective of a person with ES, or was it written from the perspective of people who practice Eastern philosophies, etc?  I find alot of info on grounding never mentions ES and so the writer is not writing according to what we can feel.  If I go to thebeach these days, I will find many people using wifi gadgets which I can "feel", but what I find is I cannot feel them in the water at all.  I would like to hear, tho, if this is the case with all people with ES.  I am no longer very (ES) sensitive.  I can usually tell where there are frequencies, but they usually do not affect me (I had bp plummeting, chills, headaches, etc, etc, near wireless and digital emfs in the past).  I still do get electrical charging--taking on electricity in my body.  However, I can easily keep that under control by "grounding" myself regularly. 
>  
> Diane/Evie
>
> --- On Sun, 7/4/10, lolahunt3 <marydelamer@...> wrote:
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> From: lolahunt3 <marydelamer@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 12:16 PM
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> Thank you, Evie. I have just read an entire book on grounding one's body (Earthing by Clinton Ober, et al.).
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> They didn't mention the large-body-of-water effect?
>
> Always more to understand and learn.
>
> Thank you for the 2 book titles. They sound great.
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> All best,
> Sue
>
> --- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Sue,
> >  
> > Yes, rocks do conduct frequencies.  The problem is they can conduct to you or away from you.  So, you must determine which is happening when you hang out on a rock.  If you are next to a large body of water, it is most likely always conducting to the large body of water, since your body is much smaller and water is what attracts the emfs.
> >
> > Sorry I was not home again all week and I didn't get to answer your email asking for the name of the 2 books I have on house wiring.  FINALLY, here they are:  ;)
> >  
> > "Silencing the Fields" by Edward Leeper
> >  
> > "Tracing EMFs in Building Wiring and Grounding" by Karl Riley
> >  
> > I hope these help you get a leg up on electricity.  They didhelp me very much, but I can't say I am still a whiz in the area.  lol  I did figure out that my house had plenty of "ground loops" and was not grounded properly, etc, from these books.  They can both be bought online.  Just google them and youwill get a site pop up.
> >  
> > I wish you the best,
> > Diane/Evie
> >  
> >
> > --- On Sun, 7/4/10, lolahunt3 <marydelamer@> wrote:
> >
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> > From: lolahunt3 <marydelamer@>
> > Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 11:13 AM
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> > Do rocks conduct electricity? If one is standing on a big rock, that isresting on the ground/dirt/earth, will one's body be grounded? -Sue
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "giorgiocinci" <CINCIRIPINI@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > the experience we had (the EHS is my wife) is TO LEAVE as far as possible EMF sources as soon as possible.
> > >
> > > We didn't trust in any of these gadgets that are good only for the producers.
> > >
> > > Immediately, a long showers and staining in a water + plus salt are usefull to discharge. Ti discharge is essential to touch the feet with ground that is connected to the rock at 100%. A 'walking' in the river was usufell.
> > >
> > > Faraday cage is usefull when you'll be discarhed ... not now ! We tested it!
> > >
> > > But again and agin the most important is to ecape !
> > > It costs less ... than the life ! I don't yoke
> > >
> > > Good luck
> > >
> > >
> > > Giorgio
> > >
> > > --- In [hidden email], "lindameetoo" <lindameetoo@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have tried earth calm, safe space, Q-link. I just sent back the graham filters.They did nothing, except cost a lot. I have a little crystal with a diode in it the use to help. Not much anymore. I guess I need a stronger one. Has anyone use a device to protect from wifi and cell towers? I just found out I have 70 cell towers within 4 miles of my house and 40 antennas. I also have a transformer in my driveway right next to my house. I just found out my house is flip flopped so I won't be able to move. I feel like I'm getting more sensitive every day. I just started the MMS detox. I'm going really s l o w. In the past detoxing make me really sick.I felt like Ihad acid running through my veins instead of blood. Not a good feeling. I need to build the immune system. Working on it. I hope all have a great day.
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I am quite sensitive and I feel nothing bad if I am in the water. We've gone to the beach every weekend for the last couple years because of that. The effect lasts for awhile afterwards -- for the next few hours, I do better on the cell phone or in fast food restaurants. UNFORTUNATELY, I live on the gulf coast and now get to gamble on the impact of the oil mess if I want to get in the water....it's not too bad in my area yet. Ironic huh?

Amy



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From: Evie <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Sun, July 4, 2010 11:36:51 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices

Hi again, Sue,
 
Was the book written from the perspective of a person with ES, or was it written from the perspective of people who practice Eastern philosophies, etc? I find alot of info on grounding never mentions ES and so the writer is not writing according to what we can feel. If I go to the beach these days, I will find many people using wifi gadgets which I can "feel", but what Ifind is I cannot feel them in the water at all. I would like to hear, tho, if this is the case with all people with ES. I am no longer very (ES) sensitive. I can usually tell where there are frequencies, but they usually do not affect me (I had bp plummeting, chills, headaches, etc, etc, near wireless and digital emfs in the past). I still do get electrical charging--taking on electricity in my body. However, I can easily keep that under control by "grounding" myself regularly.
 
Diane/Evie

--- On Sun, 7/4/10, lolahunt3 <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: lolahunt3 <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 12:16 PM


 



Thank you, Evie. I have just read an entire book on grounding one's body (Earthing by Clinton Ober, et al.).

They didn't mention the large-body-of-water effect?

Always more to understand and learn.

Thank you for the 2 book titles. They sound great.

All best,
Sue

--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:

>
> Hi, Sue,
> Â
> Yes, rocks do conduct frequencies. The problem is they can conduct toyou or away from you. So, you must determine which is happening when you hang out on a rock. If you are next to a large body of water, it is most likely always conducting to the large body of water, since your body is much smaller and water is what attracts the emfs.
>
> Sorry I was not home again all week and I didn't get to answer your emailasking for the name of the 2 books I have on house wiring. FINALLY, here they are: ;)
> Â
> "Silencing the Fields" by Edward Leeper
> Â
> "Tracing EMFs in Building Wiring and Grounding" by Karl Riley
> Â
> I hope these help you get a leg up on electricity. They did help me very much, but I can't say I am still a whiz in the area. lol I did figure out that my house had plenty of "ground loops" and was not grounded properly, etc, from these books. They can both be bought online. Just google them and you will get a site pop up.
> Â
> I wish you the best,
> Diane/Evie
> Â
>
> --- On Sun, 7/4/10, lolahunt3 <marydelamer@...> wrote:
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> From: lolahunt3 <marydelamer@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 11:13 AM
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>
>
>
> Do rocks conduct electricity? If one is standing on a big rock, that is resting on the ground/dirt/earth, will one's body be grounded? -Sue
>
> --- In [hidden email], "giorgiocinci" <CINCIRIPINI@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > the experience we had (the EHS is my wife) is TO LEAVE as far as possible EMF sources as soon as possible.
> >
> > We didn't trust in any of these gadgets that are good only for the producers.
> >
> > Immediately, a long showers and staining in a water + plus salt are usefull to discharge. Ti discharge is essential to touch the feet with ground that is connected to the rock at 100%. A 'walking' in the river was usufell.
> >
> > Faraday cage is usefull when you'll be discarhed ... not now ! We tested it!
> >
> > But again and agin the most important is to ecape !
> > It costs less ... than the life ! I don't yoke
> >
> > Good luck
> >
> >
> > Giorgio
> >
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Loni Rosser
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What books are you talking about Sue?  I missed that somehow.
 
I wondered too about water because my daughter graduated from HS in 09 & they had a cell tower on the football field where the grad took place. Plus atower next door at the lilbrary. I couldn't tolerate being over there at all. But ..... .it rained the day of her grad. & I was able to go and sit inthe rain in the stands and see her graduate.  Amazing!  Some kind of divine intervention! 
 
Loni

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The authors are well aware of Electrical Hypersensitivity. There are 2 rivetting stories in the book about people with severe Electrical Hypersensitivity, who got their lives back, after introducing body grounding (sleeping grounded all night, working in front of the computer grounded, etc....). Perhaps it is more effective at healing people with EHS who are super-sensitive to powerlines/electrical wiring rather than wi-fi technologies? I still don't understand these distinctions. I also just found out that some people are intolerant of the earth's electrical energies?

It sounds like grounding oneself in the water is most powerful. They also say to wet the soil, if you are grounding yourself on dirt -- it makes the conduction better.

I am finding that I can deeply relax, when I do my daily "grounding" (sitting with my feet on wettened dirt), and I can feel more clear-minded and energized. It's supposed to be great for inflammation (positive free radicals of inflammation are "doused out" by electrons from the earth's surface). Atthe very least, it is the only time of day in Berkeley -- when I am grounding myself -- where I feel more relaxed and present. It seems to be having a dramatic positive effect on me. (Even as I sit among 32 nearby Smart Meters and all Berkeley's electropollution.)

-Sue

--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:

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> Hi again, Sue,
>  
> Was the book written from the perspective of a person with ES, or was it written from the perspective of people who practice Eastern philosophies, etc?  I find alot of info on grounding never mentions ES and so the writer is not writing according to what we can feel.  If I go to the beach these days, I will find many people using wifi gadgets which I can "feel", but what I find is I cannot feel themin the water at all.  I would like to hear, tho, if this is thecase with all people with ES.  I am no longer very (ES) sensitive.  I can usually tell where there are frequencies, but they usually do not affect me (I had bp plummeting, chills, headaches, etc, etc, near wireless and digital emfs in the past).  I still do get electrical charging--taking on electricity in my body.  However, I can easily keep that under control by "grounding" myself regularly. 
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> Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
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> Thank you, Evie. I have just read an entire book on grounding one's body (Earthing by Clinton Ober, et al.).
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> They didn't mention the large-body-of-water effect?
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> Always more to understand and learn.
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> Thank you for the 2 book titles. They sound great.
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> All best,
> Sue
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> > Hi, Sue,
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> > Yes, rocks do conduct frequencies.  The problem is they can conduct to you or away from you.  So, you must determine which is happening when you hang out on a rock.  If you are next to a large body of water, it is most likely always conducting to the large body of water, since your body is much smaller and water is what attracts the emfs.
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> > Sorry I was not home again all week and I didn't get to answer your email asking for the name of the 2 books I have on house wiring.  FINALLY, here they are:  ;)
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> > "Silencing the Fields" by Edward Leeper
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> > "Tracing EMFs in Building Wiring and Grounding" by Karl Riley
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> > I hope these help you get a leg up on electricity.  They did help me very much, but I can't say I am still a whiz in thearea.  lol  I did figure out that my house had plenty of "ground loops" and was not grounded properly, etc, from these books.  They can both be bought online.  Just google them and you will get a site pop up.
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> > I wish you the best,
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> > Do rocks conduct electricity? If one is standing on a big rock, that isresting on the ground/dirt/earth, will one's body be grounded? -Sue
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> > --- In [hidden email], "giorgiocinci" <CINCIRIPINI@> wrote:
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> > > Hi
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> > > the experience we had (the EHS is my wife) is TO LEAVE as far as possible EMF sources as soon as possible.
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> > > We didn't trust in any of these gadgets that are good only for the producers.
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> > > Immediately, a long showers and staining in a water + plus salt are usefull to discharge. Ti discharge is essential to touch the feet with ground that is connected to the rock at 100%. A 'walking' in the river was usufell.
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> > > Faraday cage is usefull when you'll be discarhed ... not now ! We tested it!
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> > > But again and agin the most important is to ecape !
> > > It costs less ... than the life ! I don't yoke
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> > > Good luck
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> > > Giorgio
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I would love to be able to go to the ocean but I get zombie like due to thespores in the air near all of the water.  Any ideas how to overcome that?  Loni

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I am quite sensitive and I feel nothing bad if I am in the water. We've gone to the beach every weekend for the last couple years because of that. Theeffect lasts for awhile afterwards -- for the next few hours, I do better on the cell phone or in fast food restaurants. UNFORTUNATELY, I live on thegulf coast and now get to gamble on the impact of the oil mess if I want to get in the water....it's not too bad in my area yet. Ironic huh?

Amy

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Hi again, Sue,

Was the book written from the perspective of a person with ES, or was it written from the perspective of people who practice Eastern philosophies, etc? I find alot of info on grounding never mentions ES and so the writer is not writing according to what we can feel. If I go to the beach these days, I will find many people using wifi gadgets which I can "feel", but what I find is I cannot feel them in the water at all. I would like to hear, tho, if this is the case with all people with ES. I am no longer very (ES) sensitive. I can usually tell where there are frequencies, but they usually do not affect me (I had bp plummeting, chills, headaches, etc, etc, near wireless and digital emfs in the past). I still do get electrical charging--takingon electricity in my body. However, I can easily keep that under control by "grounding" myself regularly.

Diane/Evie

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From: lolahunt3 <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 12:16 PM

Thank you, Evie. I have just read an entire book on grounding one's body (Earthing by Clinton Ober, et al.).

They didn't mention the large-body-of-water effect?

Always more to understand and learn.

Thank you for the 2 book titles. They sound great.

All best,
Sue

--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:

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> Hi, Sue,
> Â
> Yes, rocks do conduct frequencies. The problem is they can conduct to you or away from you. So, you must determine which is happening when you hang out on a rock. If you are next to a large body of water, it is most likely always conducting to the large body of water, since your body is much smaller and water is what attracts the emfs.
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> Sorry I was not home again all week and I didn't get to answer your emailasking for the name of the 2 books I have on house wiring. FINALLY, here they are: ;)
> Â
> "Silencing the Fields" by Edward Leeper
> Â
> "Tracing EMFs in Building Wiring and Grounding" by Karl Riley
> Â
> I hope these help you get a leg up on electricity. They did help mevery much, but I can't say I am still a whiz in the area. lol I did figure out that my house had plenty of "ground loops" and was not grounded properly, etc, from these books. They can both be bought online. Just google them and you will get a site pop up.
> Â
> I wish you the best,
> Diane/Evie
> Â
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> --- On Sun, 7/4/10, lolahunt3 <marydelamer@...> wrote:
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> Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
> To: [hidden email]
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> --- In [hidden email], "giorgiocinci" <CINCIRIPINI@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > the experience we had (the EHS is my wife) is TO LEAVE as far as possible EMF sources as soon as possible.
> >
> > We didn't trust in any of these gadgets that are good only for the producers.
> >
> > Immediately, a long showers and staining in a water + plus salt are usefull to discharge. Ti discharge is essential to touch the feet with ground that is connected to the rock at 100%. A 'walking' in the river was usufell.
> >
> > Faraday cage is usefull when you'll be discarhed ... not now ! We tested it!
> >
> > But again and agin the most important is to ecape !
> > It costs less ... than the life ! I don't yoke
> >
> > Good luck
> >
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> > Giorgio
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "lindameetoo" <lindameetoo@> wrote:
> > >
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Hi, Loni,
 
They were both good books, it depends on what you need to know about as to which is the best.  Probably the one "Tracing EMFS in Building wiring and Grounding" by Karl Riley would help most with you understanding your house grounding, tho again, it depends on exactly why you want to know. The "Silencing the Fields" book had great info on the subject of EMFS entering on waterlines. 
 
As to the subject of grounding, you just have to go around your house and look for wires on the outside of your house and investigate where they are going, look for wires inside your house which are attached to  or closeto water pipes, sewerlines, ductwork, gaslines....  SOmetimes you canmiss these due to how the house is constructed or due to the lines being buried, so you need to really inspect closely.  We had 2 grounds at theone house, plus other problems with water pipes/gas pipes carrying emfs from the neighbors. 
 
Good luck,
Diane


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Hey Diane!
 
Which book is better in layman's terms & most informative on guiding one with their home?
 
How do you find out if your house is grounded? Is through those outlet testers? 
 
I'm pretty clueless.
 
Loni

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Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 8:49 AM

 

Hi, Sue,
 
Yes, rocks do conduct frequencies.  The problem is they can conduct toyou or away from you.  So, you must determine which is happening whenyou hang out on a rock.  If you are next to a large body of water, itis most likely always conducting to the large body of water, since your body is much smaller and water is what attracts the emfs.

Sorry I was not home again all week and I didn't get to answer your email asking for the name of the 2 books I have on house wiring.  FINALLY, here they are:  ;)
 
"Silencing the Fields" by Edward Leeper
 
"Tracing EMFs in Building Wiring and Grounding" by Karl Riley
 
I hope these help you get a leg up on electricity.  They did help me very much, but I can't say I am still a whiz in the area.  lol  I did figure out that my house had plenty of "ground loops" and was not grounded properly, etc, from these books.  They can both be bought online.  Just google them and you will get a site pop up.
 
I wish you the best,
Diane/Evie
 

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From: lolahunt3 <[hidden email]>
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Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 11:13 AM

 

Do rocks conduct electricity? If one is standing on a big rock, that is resting on the ground/dirt/earth, will one's body be grounded? -Sue

--- In [hidden email], "giorgiocinci" <CINCIRIPINI@...> wrote:

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> Hi
>
> the experience we had (the EHS is my wife) is TO LEAVE as far as possibleEMF sources as soon as possible.
>
> We didn't trust in any of these gadgets that are good only for the producers.
>
> Immediately, a long showers and staining in a water + plus salt are usefull to discharge. Ti discharge is essential to touch the feet with ground that is connected to the rock at 100%. A 'walking' in the river was usufell.
>
> Faraday cage is usefull when you'll be discarhed ... not now ! We tested it!
>
> But again and agin the most important is to ecape !
> It costs less ... than the life ! I don't yoke
>
> Good luck
>
>
> Giorgio
>
> --- In [hidden email], "lindameetoo" <lindameetoo@> wrote:
> >
> > I have tried earth calm, safe space, Q-link. I just sent back the graham filters.They did nothing, except cost a lot. I have a little crystal witha diode in it the use to help. Not much anymore. I guess I need a strongerone. Has anyone use a device to protect from wifi and cell towers? I just found out I have 70 cell towers within 4 miles of my house and 40 antennas.I also have a transformer in my driveway right next to my house. I just found out my house is flip flopped so I won't be able to move. I feel like I'm getting more sensitive every day. I just started the MMS detox. I'm goingreally s l o w. In the past detoxing make me really sick.I felt like I hadacid running through my veins instead of blood. Not a good feeling. I needto build the immune system. Working on it. I hope all have a great day.
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