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> What books are you talking about Sue?  I missed that somehow.
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> I wondered too about water because my daughter graduated from HS in 09 & they had a cell tower on the football field where the grad took place. Plusa tower next door at the lilbrary. I couldn't tolerate being over there atall. But ..... .it rained the day of her grad. & I was able to go and sit in the rain in the stands and see her graduate.  Amazing!  Some kind of divine intervention! 
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> --- On Sun, 7/4/10, lolahunt3 <marydelamer@...> wrote:
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> From: lolahunt3 <marydelamer@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 12:13 PM
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> The authors are well aware of Electrical Hypersensitivity. There are 2 rivetting stories in the book about people with severe Electrical Hypersensitivity, who got their lives back, after introducing body grounding (sleepinggrounded all night, working in front of the computer grounded, etc....). Perhaps it is more effective at healing people with EHS who are super-sensitive to powerlines/electrical wiring rather than wi-fi technologies? I stilldon't understand these distinctions. I also just found out that some people are intolerant of the earth's electrical energies?
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> It sounds like grounding oneself in the water is most powerful. They alsosay to wet the soil, if you are grounding yourself on dirt -- it makes theconduction better.
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> I am finding that I can deeply relax, when I do my daily "grounding" (sitting with my feet on wettened dirt), and I can feel more clear-minded and energized. It's supposed to be great for inflammation (positive free radicals of inflammation are "doused out" by electrons from the earth's surface). At the very least, it is the only time of day in Berkeley -- when I am grounding myself -- where I feel more relaxed and present. It seems to be having a dramatic positive effect on me. (Even as I sit among 32 nearby Smart Meters and all Berkeley's electropollution.)
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> -Sue
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> --- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@> wrote:
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> > Hi again, Sue,
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> > Was the book written from the perspective of a person with ES, or was it written from the perspective of people who practice Eastern philosophies,etc?  I find alot of info on grounding never mentions ES and sothe writer is not writing according to what we can feel.  If I go to the beach these days, I will find many people using wifi gadgets which I can "feel", but what I find is I cannot feel themin the water at all.  I would like to hear, tho, if this is thecase with all people with ES.  I am no longer very (ES) sensitive.  I can usually tell where there are frequencies, but they usually do not affect me (I had bp plummeting, chills, headaches, etc, etc, near wireless and digital emfs in the past).  I still do get electrical charging--taking on electricity in my body.  However, I can easily keep that under control by "grounding" myself regularly. 
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> > Diane/Evie
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> > --- On Sun, 7/4/10, lolahunt3 <marydelamer@> wrote:
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> > From: lolahunt3 <marydelamer@>
> > Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 12:16 PM
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> > Thank you, Evie. I have just read an entire book on grounding one's body (Earthing by Clinton Ober, et al.).
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> > They didn't mention the large-body-of-water effect?
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> > Always more to understand and learn.
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> > Thank you for the 2 book titles. They sound great.
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> > All best,
> > Sue
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> > --- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@> wrote:
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> > > Hi, Sue,
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> > > Yes, rocks do conduct frequencies.  The problem is they can conduct to you or away from you.  So, you must determine which is happening when you hang out on a rock.  If you are next to a large body of water, it ismost likely always conducting to the large body of water, since your body is much smaller and water is what attracts the emfs.
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> > > Sorry I was not home again all week and I didn't get to answer your email asking for the name of the 2 books I have on house wiring.  FINALLY, here they are:  ;)
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> > > "Silencing the Fields" by Edward Leeper
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> > > "Tracing EMFs in Building Wiring and Grounding" by Karl Riley
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> > > I hope these help you get a leg up on electricity.  They did help me very much, but I can't say I am still a whiz in the area.  lol  I did figure out that my house had plenty of "ground loops" and was not grounded properly, etc, from these books.  They can both be bought online.  Just google them and you will get a site pop up.
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> > > I wish you the best,
> > > Diane/Evie
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> > > --- On Sun, 7/4/10, lolahunt3 <marydelamer@> wrote:
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> > > From: lolahunt3 <marydelamer@>
> > > Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 11:13 AM
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> > > Do rocks conduct electricity? If one is standing on a big rock, that is resting on the ground/dirt/earth, will one's body be grounded? -Sue
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> > > --- In [hidden email], "giorgiocinci" <CINCIRIPINI@> wrote:
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> > > > Hi
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> > > > the experience we had (the EHS is my wife) is TO LEAVE as far as possible EMF sources as soon as possible.
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> > > > We didn't trust in any of these gadgets that are good only for the producers.
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> > > > Immediately, a long showers and staining in a water + plus salt areusefull to discharge. Ti discharge is essential to touch the feet with ground that is connected to the rock at 100%. A 'walking' in the river was usufell.
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> > > > Faraday cage is usefull when you'll be discarhed ... not now ! We tested it!
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> > > > But again and agin the most important is to ecape !
> > > > It costs less ... than the life ! I don't yoke
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> > > > Good luck
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> > > > Giorgio
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> > > > --- In [hidden email], "lindameetoo" <lindameetoo@> wrote:
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> > > > > I have tried earth calm, safe space, Q-link. I just sent back thegraham filters.They did nothing, except cost a lot. I have a little crystal with a diode in it the use to help. Not much anymore. I guess I need a stronger one. Has anyone use a device to protect from wifi and cell towers? Ijust found out I have 70 cell towers within 4 miles of my house and 40 antennas. I also have a transformer in my driveway right next to my house. I just found out my house is flip flopped so I won't be able to move. I feel like I'm getting more sensitive every day. I just started the MMS detox. I'mgoing really s l o w. In the past detoxing make me really sick.I felt likeI had acid running through my veins instead of blood. Not a good feeling. I need to build the immune system. Working on it. I hope all have a great day.
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> Hi, Linda,
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> Or you can learn how to help yourself get better!  It *does* happen sometimes!  I was bed-bound for 13 years and ill all my life (and some of the all my life illness WAS the type of ES you mention thatyou have).  I decided to quit waiting on doctors to help me (inmy early 40s) and started to try to figure it out myself.  It took a decade just to get to the point where I could figure out where to begin.  Today I still have problems, but I can live a relatively normal life.  I am out of bed, I have energyagain, and my ES is minor. 
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> I sent you all sorts of info on what I did when you first joined the group and you didn't even ask a question about it, Linda.  I know itis hard to know who to believe, but sometimes you are so far down, you need to reach out and look at just what the freebies are!  There isalot you can do for free or almost free!  You have found one thing--hang around as much as possible near the ocean or in the forest.  And while there, take info to read on how to heal your body!  We get no kudos for feeling sorry for ourselves.  We, infact, don't have the LUXURY of feeling sorry for ourselves.  It is a waste of our days and health to go there, because while we are doing it, our bodies are just getting more fried by the electrics and more toxifiedby all the chemical crap around us. 
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> What most people are actually upset about having to "give up", when they find they are ES, wasn't even in the Creator's plans for us to begin with!  We are living on the edge of a precipice here: humanity is at a cross roads.  We have one real option... dial back modern living or end the planet.  Some of us here are some of the only people who have figured this out yet.  But, mark my words, there will be a whole lot more people joining us in this thought after all the crap from the oil spill in the Gulf settles in!  Look at what has been changed and in the amount of time it was changed.  People talk about evolving.... come on, give me a break!  Do you really think people were EVER meant to evolve thismuch, this fast???  And what about the stress to the planet?  THAT is even worse than what people are having to endure.  So, yes, you ARE blessed!  You have the blessing of beingone
> of the very few on this planet who is getting a crash course on nature's REALITY.  We are, at our core, not evolved creatures, but natural beings, meant to live in natural surroundings.  We are currently trashing our Earth faster than you know.  But nature has gotten your attention!  I bet you are going to pay more attention tothat aspect now!
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> My 2 cents.  I don't mean this harshly, Linda.  I mean it as a true help.  Truly...
> Bless you, Dear,
> Diane/Evie
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> --- On Sat, 7/3/10, lindameetoo <lindameetoo@...> wrote:
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> From: lindameetoo <lindameetoo@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Saturday, July 3, 2010, 10:24 PM
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> Earth calm has to be introduced slowly. I did the protocal to the letter.It didn't do anything. I felt no different. Q-Link seemed to help at first, I still where it sometimes, hoping it will help me feel better. Not really. Safe space made me sicker. The necklace from Ener-G Polari-T, works a little. Getting away from electricity work! I thought I was terminal until I went camping for a couple days. I felt about 75% better. I think I could get better if I could live in a field or by the beach. Not in Southern California. I have 5 more years before I can retire. Then I can take my $500. A month and live in a field. That will be all I can afford. Ain't life grand. :-)
> I am Blessed
> Linda
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> --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@> wrote:
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> > What did you think of
> earth calm & the QLink?  LOni
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> > --- On Sat, 7/3/10, lindameetoo <lindameetoo@> wrote:
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> > From: lindameetoo <lindameetoo@>
> > Subject: [eSens] emf protection devices
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> > Date: Saturday, July 3, 2010, 9:19 AM
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> > I have tried earth calm, safe space, Q-link. I just sent back the graham filters.They did nothing, except cost a lot. I have a little crystal witha diode in it the use to help. Not much anymore. I guess I need a strongerone. Has anyone use a device to protect from wifi and cell towers? I just found out I have 70 cell towers within 4 miles of my house and 40 antennas.I also have a transformer in my driveway right next to
> my house. I just found out my house is flip flopped so I won't be able tomove. I feel like I'm getting more sensitive every day. I just started theMMS detox. I'm going really s l o w. In the past detoxing make me really sick.I felt like I had acid running through my veins instead of blood. Not agood feeling. I need to build the immune system. Working on it. I hope allhave a great day.
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> What books are you talking about Sue?  I missed that somehow.
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> I wondered too about water because my daughter graduated from HS in 09 & they had a cell tower on the football field where the grad took place. Plusa tower next door at the lilbrary. I couldn't tolerate being over there atall. But ..... .it rained the day of her grad. & I was able to go and sit in the rain in the stands and see her graduate.  Amazing!  Some kind of divine intervention! 
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> --- On Sun, 7/4/10, lolahunt3 <marydelamer@...> wrote:
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> From: lolahunt3 <marydelamer@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 12:13 PM
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> The authors are well aware of Electrical Hypersensitivity. There are 2 rivetting stories in the book about people with severe Electrical Hypersensitivity, who got their lives back, after introducing body grounding (sleepinggrounded all night, working in front of the computer grounded, etc....). Perhaps it is more effective at healing people with EHS who are super-sensitive to powerlines/electrical wiring rather than wi-fi technologies? I stilldon't understand these distinctions. I also just found out that some people are intolerant of the earth's electrical energies?
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> It sounds like grounding oneself in the water is most powerful. They alsosay to wet the soil, if you are grounding yourself on dirt -- it makes theconduction better.
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> I am finding that I can deeply relax, when I do my daily "grounding" (sitting with my feet on wettened dirt), and I can feel more clear-minded and energized. It's supposed to be great for inflammation (positive free radicals of inflammation are "doused out" by electrons from the earth's surface). At the very least, it is the only time of day in Berkeley -- when I am grounding myself -- where I feel more relaxed and present. It seems to be having a dramatic positive effect on me. (Even as I sit among 32 nearby Smart Meters and all Berkeley's electropollution.)
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> -Sue
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> --- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@> wrote:
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> > Hi again, Sue,
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> > Was the book written from the perspective of a person with ES, or was it written from the perspective of people who practice Eastern philosophies,etc?  I find alot of info on grounding never mentions ES and so the writer is not writing according to what we can feel.  If I go to the beach these days, I will find many people using wifi gadgets which I can "feel", but what I find is I cannot feel them in the water at all.  I would like to hear, tho, if this is thecase with all people with ES.  I am no longer very (ES) sensitive.  I can usually tell where there are frequencies, but they usually do not affectme (I had bp plummeting, chills, headaches, etc, etc, near wireless and digital emfs in the past).  I still do get electrical charging--taking on electricity in my body.  However, I can easily keep that under control by "grounding" myself regularly. 
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> > Diane/Evie
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> > --- On Sun, 7/4/10, lolahunt3 <marydelamer@> wrote:
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> > From: lolahunt3 <marydelamer@>
> > Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 12:16 PM
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> > Thank you, Evie. I have just read an entire book on grounding one's body (Earthing by Clinton Ober, et al.).
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> > They didn't mention the large-body-of-water effect?
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> > Always more to understand and learn.
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> > Thank you for the 2 book titles. They sound great.
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> > All best,
> > Sue
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> > --- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@> wrote:
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> > > Hi, Sue,
> > >  
> > > Yes, rocks do conduct frequencies.  The problem is they can conduct to you or away from you.  So, you must determine which is happening when you hang out on a rock.  If you are next to a large body of water, it is most likely always conducting to the large body ofwater, since your body is much smaller and water is what attracts the emfs.
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> > > Sorry I was not home again all week and I didn't get to answer your email asking for the name of the 2 books I have on house wiring.  FINALLY, here they are:  ;)
> > >  
> > > "Silencing the Fields" by Edward Leeper
> > >  
> > > "Tracing EMFs in Building Wiring and Grounding" by Karl Riley
> > >  
> > > I hope these help you get a leg up on electricity.  They did help me very much, but I can't say I am still a whiz in the area.  lol  I did figure out that my house had plenty of "ground loops" and was not grounded properly, etc, from these books.  They can both be bought online.  Just google them and you willget a site pop up.
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> > > I wish you the best,
> > > Diane/Evie
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> > > --- On Sun, 7/4/10, lolahunt3 <marydelamer@> wrote:
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> > > From: lolahunt3 <marydelamer@>
> > > Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
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> > > Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 11:13 AM
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> > > Do rocks conduct electricity? If one is standing on a big rock, that is resting on the ground/dirt/earth, will one's body be grounded? -Sue
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> > > --- In [hidden email], "giorgiocinci" <CINCIRIPINI@> wrote:
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> > > > Hi
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> > > > the experience we had (the EHS is my wife) is TO LEAVE as far as possible EMF sources as soon as possible.
> > > >
> > > > We didn't trust in any of these gadgets that are good only for the producers.
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> > > > Immediately, a long showers and staining in a water + plus salt areusefull to discharge. Ti discharge is essential to touch the feet with ground that is connected to the rock at 100%. A 'walking' in the river was usufell.
> > > >
> > > > Faraday cage is usefull when you'll be discarhed ... not now ! We tested it!
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> > > > But again and agin the most important is to ecape !
> > > > It costs less ... than the life ! I don't yoke
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> > > > Good luck
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> > > > Giorgio
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> > > > --- In [hidden email], "lindameetoo" <lindameetoo@> wrote:
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> Hi, Linda,
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> Or you can learn how to help yourself get better!  It *does* happen sometimes!  I was bed-bound for 13 years and ill all my life (and some of the all my life illness WAS the type of ES you mention thatyou have).  I decided to quit waiting on doctors to help me (inmy early 40s) and started to try to figure it out myself.  It took a decade just to get to the point where I could figure out where to begin.  Today I still have problems, but I can live a relatively normal life.  I am out of bed, I have energyagain, and my ES is minor. 
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> I sent you all sorts of info on what I did when you first joined the group and you didn't even ask a question about it, Linda.  I know itis hard to know who to believe, but sometimes you are so far down, you need to reach out and look at just what the freebies are!  There isalot you can do for free or almost free!  You have found one thing--hang around as much as possible near the ocean or in the forest.  And while there, take info to read on how to heal your body!  We get no kudos for feeling sorry for ourselves.  We, infact, don't have the LUXURY of feeling sorry for ourselves.  It is a waste of our days and health to go there, because while we are doing it, our bodies are just getting more fried by the electrics and more toxifiedby all the chemical crap around us. 
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> What most people are actually upset about having to "give up", when they find they are ES, wasn't even in the Creator's plans for us to begin with!  We are living on the edge of a precipice here: humanity is at a cross roads.  We have one real option... dial back modern living or end the planet.  Some of us here are some of the only people who have figured this out yet.  But, mark my words, there will be a whole lot more people joining us in this thought after all the crap from the oil spill in the Gulf settles in!  Look at what has been changed and in the amount of time it was changed.  People talk about evolving.... come on, give me a break!  Do you really think people were EVER meant to evolve thismuch, this fast???  And what about the stress to the planet?  THAT is even worse than what people are having to endure.  So, yes, you ARE blessed!  You have the blessing of beingone
> of the very few on this planet who is getting a crash course on nature's REALITY.  We are, at our core, not evolved creatures, but natural beings, meant to live in natural surroundings.  We are currently trashing our Earth faster than you know.  But nature has gotten your attention!  I bet you are going to pay more attention tothat aspect now!
>  
> My 2 cents.  I don't mean this harshly, Linda.  I mean it as a true help.  Truly...
> Bless you, Dear,
> Diane/Evie
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> --- On Sat, 7/3/10, lindameetoo <lindameetoo@...> wrote:
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> From: lindameetoo <lindameetoo@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Saturday, July 3, 2010, 10:24 PM
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> Earth calm has to be introduced slowly. I did the protocal to the letter.It didn't do anything. I felt no different. Q-Link seemed to help at first, I still where it sometimes, hoping it will help me feel better. Not really. Safe space made me sicker. The necklace from Ener-G Polari-T, works a little. Getting away from electricity work! I thought I was terminal until I went camping for a couple days. I felt about 75% better. I think I could get better if I could live in a field or by the beach. Not in Southern California. I have 5 more years before I can retire. Then I can take my $500. A month and live in a field. That will be all I can afford. Ain't life grand. :-)
> I am Blessed
> Linda
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> --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@> wrote:
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> > What did you think of
> earth calm & the QLink?  LOni
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> > --- On Sat, 7/3/10, lindameetoo <lindameetoo@> wrote:
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> > From: lindameetoo <lindameetoo@>
> > Subject: [eSens] emf protection devices
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Saturday, July 3, 2010, 9:19 AM
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> > I have tried earth calm, safe space, Q-link. I just sent back the graham filters.They did nothing, except cost a lot. I have a little crystal witha diode in it the use to help. Not much anymore. I guess I need a strongerone. Has anyone use a device to protect from wifi and cell towers? I just found out I have 70 cell towers within 4 miles of my house and 40 antennas.I also have a transformer in my driveway right next to
> my house. I just found out my house is flip flopped so I won't be able tomove. I feel like I'm getting more sensitive every day. I just started theMMS detox. I'm going really s l o w. In the past detoxing make me really sick.I felt like I had acid running through my veins instead of blood. Not agood feeling. I need to build the immune system. Working on it. I hope allhave a great day.
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> Hi Linda
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> I attended a conference here in the UK by a doc called Sarah Myhill. She primarily treats CFS patients, but she recognises ES and is really an environmental illness medical practicioner - you might get some benefit from going to her website where there is a lot of excellent information available for free. She says that most of us who eat a western diet - no matter how healthy we try to be - probably have fermentation of grains and sugars in thegut which then feed bacteria in our gut which consume the vitamins and minerals we put in leading to deficiencies etc - she suggests counteracting this in the short term by applying vitamins and minerals to the skin via mixing them in powdered form into moistursing lotion which means that they bypass the gut and get to directly where they are needed. She has done this with great success in her practice and it sounds like a good idea to me. Although her conference talk was on treating chronically fatigued patients,
> a lot of what she was saying [which is also on her site] would engender good health and a fighting immune system so there could be a lot there which would be of benefit to us ESSERs.
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> Her site is www.drmyhill.co.uk
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> Hope things improve for you and become more bearable.
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> best wishes
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> Steph
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> --- On Sun, 4/7/10, lindameetoo <lindameetoo@...> wrote:
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> From: lindameetoo <lindameetoo@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Sunday, 4 July, 2010, 18:01
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> Hi Diane, I remember that you sent a lot of information. I read it and have been implementing some thing into my life. I deleted the email instead of saving it. I have done that with a few things I wanted to save. The brainfog has been bad lately.
> I have been fighting this thing for about 13 years. I have recently been finding it harder to do so. I have found keeping busy has helped me. It's when I relax that I notice the symptoms the most. I walk barefoot more thesedays. Grounding is important. I'm working on my immune system. I'm lookingfor a supplement that has all the amino acids I need. I prefer liquid vitamins and minerals. Pills get stuck in the throat sometimes. I started a MMSdetox a few days ago. I'm going slow, but so far no bad effects.
> My Doctor just wrote me a prescription to move from this house. We tried to get pre-approved to go looking for another house. Found out my house hasno equity right now. I have to sell this house first. then get a new loan.I'm not going to stress myself out, worrying about what I can't do right now. I doing what I can do right now. Detox, eat right, exercise and pray.
> This world is screwed up. Most people haven't a clue what we are doing tothis planet. They don't have a clue what they are doing to their health. Trying to educate people on health issues and EMF is like preaching to them about God. They just don't want to hear it.
> I'm going to keep spreading the news about both issues.
> I hope you have a great day
> Be Blessed
> Linda
>
> --- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Linda,
> >  
> > Or you can learn how to help yourself get better!  It *does*happen sometimes!  I was bed-bound for 13 years and ill all my life (and some of the all my life illness WAS the type of ES you mention that you have).  I decided to quit waiting on doctors to help me (in my early 40s) and started to try to figure it out myself.  Ittook a decade just to get to the point where I could figure out where to begin.  Today I still have problems, but I can live a relatively normal life.  I am out of bed, I have energy again, and my ES is minor. 
> >  
> > I sent you all sorts of info on what I did when you first joined the group and you didn't even ask a question about it, Linda.  I know it is hard to know who to believe, but sometimes you are so far down, you need to reach out and look at just what the freebies are!  There is alot you can do for free or almost free!  You have found one thing--hang around as much as possible near the ocean or in the forest.  And while there, take info to read on how to heal your body!  We get no kudos for feeling sorry for ourselves.  We, infact, don't have the LUXURY of feeling sorry for ourselves.  It is a waste of our days and health to go there, because while we are doingit, our bodies are just getting more fried by the electrics and more toxified by all the chemical crap around us. 
> >  
> > What most people are actually upset about having to "give up", when they find they are ES, wasn't even in the Creator's plans for us to begin with!  We are living on the edge of a precipice here: humanity is at a cross roads.  We have one real option... dial back modern living or end the planet.  Some of us here are some of the only people who have figured this out yet.  But, mark my words, there will be a whole lot more people joining us in this thought after all the crap from the oil spill in the Gulf settles in!  Look at what has been changed and in the amount of time it was changed.  People talk about evolving.... come on, give me a break!  Do you really think people were EVER meant to evolve thismuch, this fast???  And what about the stress to the planet?  THAT is even worse than what people are having to endure.  So, yes, you ARE blessed!  You have the blessing of beingone
> > of the very few on this planet who is getting a crash course on nature's REALITY.  We are, at our core, not evolved creatures, but natural beings, meant to live in natural surroundings.  We are currently trashing our Earth faster than you know.  But nature has gotten your attention!  I bet you are going to pay more attention to that aspect now!
> >  
> > My 2 cents.  I don't mean this harshly, Linda.  Imean it as a true help.  Truly...
> > Bless you, Dear,
> > Diane/Evie
> >
> > --- On Sat, 7/3/10, lindameetoo <lindameetoo@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: lindameetoo <lindameetoo@>
> > Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Saturday, July 3, 2010, 10:24 PM
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> > Earth calm has to be introduced slowly. I did the protocal to the letter. It didn't do anything. I felt no different. Q-Link seemed to help at first, I still where it sometimes, hoping it will help me feel better. Not really. Safe space made me sicker. The necklace from Ener-G Polari-T, works a little. Getting away from electricity work! I thought I was terminal until I went camping for a couple days. I felt about 75% better. I think I could get better if I could live in a field or by the beach. Not in Southern California. I have 5 more years before I can retire. Then I can take my $500. Amonth and live in a field. That will be all I can afford. Ain't life grand. :-)
> > I am Blessed
> > Linda
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@> wrote:
> > >
> > > What did you think of
> > earth calm & the QLink?  LOni
> > >
> > > --- On Sat, 7/3/10, lindameetoo <lindameetoo@> wrote:
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> > > From: lindameetoo <lindameetoo@>
> > > Subject: [eSens] emf protection devices
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > Date: Saturday, July 3, 2010, 9:19 AM
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> > > I have tried earth calm, safe space, Q-link. I just sent back the graham filters.They did nothing, except cost a lot. I have a little crystal with a diode in it the use to help. Not much anymore. I guess I need a stronger one. Has anyone use a device to protect from wifi and cell towers? I just found out I have 70 cell towers within 4 miles of my house and 40 antennas. I also have a transformer in my driveway right next to
> > my house. I just found out my house is flip flopped so I won't be able to move. I feel like I'm getting more sensitive every day. I just started the MMS detox. I'm going really s l o w. In the past detoxing make me reallysick.I felt like I had acid running through my veins instead of blood. Nota good feeling. I need to build the immune system. Working on it. I hope all have a great day.
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> Hi Sue
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> What a coincidence - Dr Myhill [I mentioned her website in my previous post ] mentioned a book by Steven Sinatra in her conference talk.!!!  i must check that book out. I have been  trying to do as much gounding as i can now that the weather is warmer but didn't know that the earth had to be wet. So I will water the grass before walking on it. Great tip. Keep us posted re the indoor grounding - if it works it would solve a lot ofproblems. Does the equipment you can get for indoor grounding only work inthe US or would it also work in the UK where our electrical system is different, and does anyone now where you can buy similar stuff which would workin the UK?
>  
> best wishes
>  
> Steph
>  
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>
> --- On Mon, 5/7/10, lolahunt3 <marydelamer@...> wrote:
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> From: lolahunt3 <marydelamer@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Earthing book (was Re: emf protection devices)
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Monday, 5 July, 2010, 17:06
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>  
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> Loni,
>
> The book I am referring to is Earthing: The Most Important Health Discovery Ever? by Clinton Ober, Stephen T. Sinatra, M.D., and Martin Zucker, justpublished this year.
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> Since beginning the book, I have spent a minimum of 30 minutes each day, outdoors, barefoot, on the dirt or grass. At about the 30 minute point, my body often feels deeply relaxed, and I feel relatively calm and present inside myself, in this very electropolluted area. So far, it has made it more psychologically bearable for me to be here (while I desperately search for other housing), because I know I can get some relief if I go outside, barefoot.
>
> I did just contact the Barefoot Connections store that is associated withthe book, which sells equipment to ground your body while sleeping, while at the computer, etc. They sell it to plug into your outlets, but you can also use a grounding rod, which they sell as well. I asked them about the electropollution protection issue, and they said grounding the body protects you from both the indoor electrical wiring pollution, and from the outdoor RF pollution from cell phone towers, Smart Meters, etc. The person who answered my question did not know the physics of that, though.
>
> There is increased conductivity, if your grounding rod is in wet soil (for instance, a garden area that you water daily). Otherwise, you should "water your grounding rod" daily. When you walk barefoot, if the grass or soil is not moist, you should water it first, as well. (There is no conductivitythrough the soles of normal shoes, and conductive shoes are not yet being made and sold.)
>
> I have been helped by the barefoot idea; now I'm going to try the indoor grounding idea.
>
> What Charles said about 70% of the current in America going back to the substation via the ground -- that is not true of the state of California. Itis the only state in the U.S. where it is illegal to send current back through the ground. It must be cabled. So I got lucky on that one!
>
> This book, Earthing, is a rivetting read. It makes a lot of sense. We spent millenia barefoot, or wearing hide shoes, and sleeping on the earth -- always in its electrical field, with our bodies always grounded, and always getting a constant supply of electrons (which damp out free radicals in thebody). As people return to grounding their bodies, they are seeing radicalshifts in health. The book gives case study after case study, as well as alot of scientific research.
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> I'm going to try it and see...
>
> All best,
> Sue
>
> --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@> wrote:
> >
> > What books are you talking about Sue?  I missed that somehow.
> >  
> > I wondered too about water because my daughter graduated from HS in 09 & they had a cell tower on the football field where the grad took place. Plus a tower next door at the lilbrary. I couldn't tolerate being over there at all. But ..... .it rained the day of her grad. & I was able to go and sit in the rain in the stands and see her graduate.  Amazing!  Some kind of divine intervention! 
> >  
> > Loni
> >
> > --- On Sun, 7/4/10, lolahunt3 <marydelamer@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: lolahunt3 <marydelamer@>
> > Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 12:13 PM
> >
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> >  
> >
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> >
> > The authors are well aware of Electrical Hypersensitivity. There are 2 rivetting stories in the book about people with severe Electrical Hypersensitivity, who got their lives back, after introducing body grounding (sleeping grounded all night, working in front of the computer grounded, etc....).Perhaps it is more effective at healing people with EHS who are super-sensitive to powerlines/electrical wiring rather than wi-fi technologies? I still don't understand these distinctions. I also just found out that some people are intolerant of the earth's electrical energies?
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> > It sounds like grounding oneself in the water is most powerful. They also say to wet the soil, if you are grounding yourself on dirt -- it makes the conduction better.
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> > I am finding that I can deeply relax, when I do my daily "grounding" (sitting with my feet on wettened dirt), and I can feel more clear-minded andenergized. It's supposed to be great for inflammation (positive free radicals of inflammation are "doused out" by electrons from the earth's surface). At the very least, it is the only time of day in Berkeley -- when I am grounding myself -- where I feel more relaxed and present. It seems to be having a dramatic positive effect on me. (Even as I sit among 32 nearby Smart Meters and all Berkeley's electropollution.)
> >
> > -Sue
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi again, Sue,
> > >  
> > > Was the book written from the perspective of a person with ES, or wasit written from the perspective of people who practice Eastern philosophies, etc?  I find alot of info on grounding never mentions ES and so the writer is not writing according to what we can feel.  If I go to the beach these days, I will find many people using wifi gadgets which I can "feel", but what I find is I cannot feel them in the water at all.  I would like to hear, tho, if this is the case with all people with ES.  I am no longer very (ES) sensitive.  I can usually tell where there are frequencies, but they usually do not affect me (I had bp plummeting, chills, headaches, etc, etc, near wireless anddigital emfs in the past).  I still do get electrical charging--taking on electricity in my body.  However, I can easily keep that under control by "grounding" myself regularly. 
> > >  
> > > Diane/Evie
> > >
> > > --- On Sun, 7/4/10, lolahunt3 <marydelamer@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: lolahunt3 <marydelamer@>
> > > Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 12:16 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >
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> > > Thank you, Evie. I have just read an entire book on grounding one's body (Earthing by Clinton Ober, et al.).
> > >
> > > They didn't mention the large-body-of-water effect?
> > >
> > > Always more to understand and learn.
> > >
> > > Thank you for the 2 book titles. They sound great.
> > >
> > > All best,
> > > Sue
> > >
> > > --- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi, Sue,
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > Yes, rocks do conduct frequencies.ÃÆ'‚  The problem is they can conduct to you or away from you.ÃÆ'‚  So, youmust determine which is happening when you hang out on a rock.ÃÆ'‚  If you are next to a largebody of water, it is most likely always conducting to the large body of water, since your body is much smaller and water is what attracts the emfs.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry I was not home again all week and I didn't get to answer youremail asking for the name of the 2 books I have on house wiring.ÃÆ'‚  FINALLY, here they are:ÃÆ'‚  ;)
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > "Silencing the Fields" by Edward Leeper
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > "Tracing EMFs in Building Wiring and Grounding" by Karl Riley
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > I hope these help you get a leg up on electricity.ÃÆ'‚  They did help me very much, but I can't say I am still a whiz in the area.ÃÆ'‚  lolÃÆ'‚  I did figure out that my house had plenty of "ground loops"and was not grounded properly, etc,ÃÆ'‚ from these books.ÃÆ'‚  They can both be bought online.ÃÆ'‚  Just google them and you will get a site pop up.
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > I wish you the best,
> > > > Diane/Evie
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > >
> > > > --- On Sun, 7/4/10, lolahunt3 <marydelamer@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: lolahunt3 <marydelamer@>
> > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
> > > > To: [hidden email]
> > > > Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 11:13 AM
> > > >
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> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Do rocks conduct electricity? If one is standing on a big rock, that is resting on the ground/dirt/earth, will one's body be grounded? -Sue
> > > >
> > > > --- In [hidden email], "giorgiocinci" <CINCIRIPINI@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi
> > > > >
> > > > > the experience we had (the EHS is my wife) is TO LEAVE as far as possible EMF sources as soon as possible.
> > > > >
> > > > > We didn't trust in any of these gadgets that are good only for the producers.
> > > > >
> > > > > Immediately, a long showers and staining in a water + plus salt are usefull to discharge. Ti discharge is essential to touch the feet with ground that is connected to the rock at 100%. A 'walking' in the river was usufell.
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> > > > > Faraday cage is usefull when you'll be discarhed ... not now ! Wetested it!
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> > > > > But again and agin the most important is to ecape !
> > > > > It costs less ... than the life ! I don't yoke
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Giorgio
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [hidden email], "lindameetoo" <lindameetoo@> wrote:
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> Steph,
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> Am I remembering right, that Dr. Myhill is a famous UK doctor for Multiple Chemical Sensitivities?
>
> I don't know if the Barefoot Connections equipment can be used in the UK.I had thought I had seen some sort of conversion accessory on their website, but I don't see it this morning.
>
> Their website address is:
> http://stores.homestead.com/HughesLtd/StoreFront.bok
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> Their contact phone number is:
> 760-778-1200
> (I think you start with 011, internationally?)
> They also have a contact form that you can fill out at their website and send to them.
> The woman who has answered the 3 times that I have called there has been very helpful, and took her time to answer all my questions.
>
> Best,
> Sue
>
> --- In [hidden email], Stephanie Smith <reader41@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Sue
> >  
> > What a coincidence - Dr Myhill [I mentioned her website in my previous post ] mentioned a book by Steven Sinatra in her conference talk.!!!  i must check that book out. I have been  trying to do as much gounding as i can now that the weather is warmer but didn't know that the earth had to be wet. So I will water the grass before walking on it. Great tip.Keep us posted re the indoor grounding - if it works it would solve a lot of problems. Does the equipment you can get for indoor grounding only work in the US or would it also work in the UK where our electrical system is different, and does anyone now where you can buy similar stuff which would work in the UK?
> >  
> > best wishes
> >  
> > Steph
> >  
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 5/7/10, lolahunt3 <marydelamer@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: lolahunt3 <marydelamer@>
> > Subject: [eSens] Earthing book (was Re: emf protection devices)
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Monday, 5 July, 2010, 17:06
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > Loni,
> >
> > The book I am referring to is Earthing: The Most Important Health Discovery Ever? by Clinton Ober, Stephen T. Sinatra, M.D., and Martin Zucker, just published this year.
> >
> > Since beginning the book, I have spent a minimum of 30 minutes each day, outdoors, barefoot, on the dirt or grass. At about the 30 minute point, my body often feels deeply relaxed, and I feel relatively calm and present inside myself, in this very electropolluted area. So far, it has made it more psychologically bearable for me to be here (while I desperately search for other housing), because I know I can get some relief if I go outside, barefoot.
> >
> > I did just contact the Barefoot Connections store that is associated with the book, which sells equipment to ground your body while sleeping, while at the computer, etc. They sell it to plug into your outlets, but you canalso use a grounding rod, which they sell as well. I asked them about the electropollution protection issue, and they said grounding the body protects you from both the indoor electrical wiring pollution, and from the outdoor RF pollution from cell phone towers, Smart Meters, etc. The person who answered my question did not know the physics of that, though.
> >
> > There is increased conductivity, if your grounding rod is in wet soil (for instance, a garden area that you water daily). Otherwise, you should "water your grounding rod" daily. When you walk barefoot, if the grass or soil is not moist, you should water it first, as well. (There is no conductivity through the soles of normal shoes, and conductive shoes are not yet being made and sold.)
> >
> > I have been helped by the barefoot idea; now I'm going to try the indoor grounding idea.
> >
> > What Charles said about 70% of the current in America going back to thesubstation via the ground -- that is not true of the state of California. It is the only state in the U.S. where it is illegal to send current back through the ground. It must be cabled. So I got lucky on that one!
> >
> > This book, Earthing, is a rivetting read. It makes a lot of sense. We spent millenia barefoot, or wearing hide shoes, and sleeping on the earth --always in its electrical field, with our bodies always grounded, and always getting a constant supply of electrons (which damp out free radicals in the body). As people return to grounding their bodies, they are seeing radical shifts in health. The book gives case study after case study, as well asa lot of scientific research.
> >
> > I'm going to try it and see...
> >
> > All best,
> > Sue
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@> wrote:
> > >
> > > What books are you talking about Sue?  I missed that somehow.
> > >  
> > > I wondered too about water because my daughter graduated from HS in 09 & they had a cell tower on the football field where the grad took place. Plus a tower next door at the lilbrary. I couldn't tolerate being over there at all. But ..... .it rained the day of her grad. & I was able to go and sit in the rain in the stands and see her graduate.  Amazing!  Some kind of divine intervention! 
> > >  
> > > Loni
> > >
> > > --- On Sun, 7/4/10, lolahunt3 <marydelamer@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: lolahunt3 <marydelamer@>
> > > Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 12:13 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The authors are well aware of Electrical Hypersensitivity. There are 2 rivetting stories in the book about people with severe Electrical Hypersensitivity, who got their lives back, after introducing body grounding (sleeping grounded all night, working in front of the computer grounded, etc....). Perhaps it is more effective at healing people with EHS who are super-sensitive to powerlines/electrical wiring rather than wi-fi technologies? I still don't understand these distinctions. I also just found out that some people are intolerant of the earth's electrical energies?
> > >
> > > It sounds like grounding oneself in the water is most powerful. They also say to wet the soil, if you are grounding yourself on dirt -- it makesthe conduction better.
> > >
> > > I am finding that I can deeply relax, when I do my daily "grounding" (sitting with my feet on wettened dirt), and I can feel more clear-minded and energized. It's supposed to be great for inflammation (positive free radicals of inflammation are "doused out" by electrons from the earth's surface). At the very least, it is the only time of day in Berkeley -- when I am grounding myself -- where I feel more relaxed and present. It seems to be having a dramatic positive effect on me. (Even as I sit among 32 nearby Smart Meters and all Berkeley's electropollution.)
> > >
> > > -Sue
> > >
> > > --- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi again, Sue,
> > > >  
> > > > Was the book written from the perspective of a person with ES, or was it written from the perspective of people who practice Eastern philosophies, etc?  I find alot of info on grounding nevermentions ES and so the writer is not writing according to what we can feel.  If I go to the beachthese days, I will find many people using wifi gadgets which I can "feel", but what I find is I cannot feel them in the water at all.  I would like to hear, tho, if this isthe case with all people with ES.  I am no longer very (ES) sensitive. I can usually tell where there are frequencies, but they usually do not affect me (I had bp plummeting, chills, headaches, etc, etc, near wireless and digital emfs in the past).  I still do get electrical charging--taking on electricity in my body.  However, I can easily keep that under control by "grounding" myself regularly. 
> > > >  
> > > > Diane/Evie
> > > >
> > > > --- On Sun, 7/4/10, lolahunt3 <marydelamer@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: lolahunt3 <marydelamer@>
> > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
> > > > To: [hidden email]
> > > > Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 12:16 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thank you, Evie. I have just read an entire book on grounding one'sbody (Earthing by Clinton Ober, et al.).
> > > >
> > > > They didn't mention the large-body-of-water effect?
> > > >
> > > > Always more to understand and learn.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for the 2 book titles. They sound great.
> > > >
> > > > All best,
> > > > Sue
> > > >
> > > > --- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi, Sue,
> > > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > Yes, rocks do conduct frequencies.ÃÆ'‚  The problem is they can conduct to you or away from you.ÃÆ'‚  So, youmust determine which is happening when you hang out on a rock.ÃÆ'‚  If you are next to a largebody of water, it is most likely always conducting to the large body of water, since your body is much smaller and water is what attracts the emfs.
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> > > > > Sorry I was not home again all week and I didn't get to answer your email asking for the name of the 2 books I have on house wiring.ÃÆ'‚  FINALLY, here they are:ÃÆ'‚  ;)
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> > > > > "Silencing the Fields" by Edward Leeper
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> > > > > "Tracing EMFs in Building Wiring and Grounding" by Karl Riley
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> > > > > I hope these help you get a leg up on electricity.ÃÆ'‚  They did help me very much, but I can't say I am still a whiz in the area.ÃÆ'‚  lolÃÆ'‚  I did figure out that my house had plenty of "ground loops" and was not grounded properly, etc,ÃÆ'‚ from these books.ÃÆ'‚  They can both be bought online.ÃÆ'‚  Just google them and you will get asite pop up.
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> > > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
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> > > > > Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 11:13 AM
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> > > > > Do rocks conduct electricity? If one is standing on a big rock, that is resting on the ground/dirt/earth, will one's body be grounded? -Sue
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> > > > > > the experience we had (the EHS is my wife) is TO LEAVE as far as possible EMF sources as soon as possible.
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> > > > > > We didn't trust in any of these gadgets that are good only for the producers.
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> > > > > > Immediately, a long showers and staining in a water + plus saltare usefull to discharge. Ti discharge is essential to touch the feet withground that is connected to the rock at 100%. A 'walking' in the river wasusufell.
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> > > > > > Faraday cage is usefull when you'll be discarhed ... not now ! We tested it!
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> > > > > > It costs less ... than the life ! I don't yoke
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> Or you can learn how to help yourself get better!  It *does* happen sometimes!  I was bed-bound for 13 years and ill all my life (and some of the all my life illness WAS the type of ES you mention thatyou have).  I decided to quit waiting on doctors to help me (inmy early 40s) and started to try to figure it out myself.  It took a decade just to get to the point where I could figure out where to begin.  Today I still have problems, but I can live a relatively normal life.  I am out of bed, I have energyagain, and my ES is minor. 
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> I sent you all sorts of info on what I did when you first joined the group and you didn't even ask a question about it, Linda.  I know itis hard to know who to believe, but sometimes you are so far down, you need to reach out and look at just what the freebies are!  There isalot you can do for free or almost free!  You have found one thing--hang around as much as possible near the ocean or in the forest.  And while there, take info to read on how to heal your body!  We get no kudos for feeling sorry for ourselves.  We, infact, don't have the LUXURY of feeling sorry for ourselves.  It is a waste of our days and health to go there, because while we are doing it, our bodies are just getting more fried by the electrics and more toxifiedby all the chemical crap around us. 
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> What most people are actually upset about having to "give up", when they find they are ES, wasn't even in the Creator's plans for us to begin with!  We are living on the edge of a precipice here: humanity is at a cross roads.  We have one real option... dial back modern living or end the planet.  Some of us here are some of the only people who have figured this out yet.  But, mark my words, there will be a whole lot more people joining us in this thought after all the crap from the oil spill in the Gulf settles in!  Look at what has been changed and in the amount of time it was changed.  People talk about evolving.... come on, give me a break!  Do you really think people were EVER meant to evolve thismuch, this fast???  And what about the stress to the planet?  THAT is even worse than what people are having to endure.  So, yes, you ARE blessed!  You have the blessing of beingone
> of the very few on this planet who is getting a crash course on nature's REALITY.  We are, at our core, not evolved creatures, but natural beings, meant to live in natural surroundings.  We are currently trashing our Earth faster than you know.  But nature has gotten your attention!  I bet you are going to pay more attention tothat aspect now!
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> Bless you, Dear,
> Diane/Evie
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> --- On Sat, 7/3/10, lindameetoo <lindameetoo@...> wrote:
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> From: lindameetoo <lindameetoo@...>
> Subject: [eSens] Re: emf protection devices
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> Date: Saturday, July 3, 2010, 10:24 PM
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> Earth calm has to be introduced slowly. I did the protocal to the letter.It didn't do anything. I felt no different. Q-Link seemed to help at first, I still where it sometimes, hoping it will help me feel better. Not really. Safe space made me sicker. The necklace from Ener-G Polari-T, works a little. Getting away from electricity work! I thought I was terminal until I went camping for a couple days. I felt about 75% better. I think I could get better if I could live in a field or by the beach. Not in Southern California. I have 5 more years before I can retire. Then I can take my $500. A month and live in a field. That will be all I can afford. Ain't life grand. :-)
> I am Blessed
> Linda
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> --- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@> wrote:
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> > Subject: [eSens] emf protection devices
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