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Russ

effective way to block internet broadband signal

I am very sensitive to the signal from broadband internet (not wifi, just regular cabled internet). Even when I unplug the internet cable from the wall outlet I can still feel the signal coming into the room from that area. I want to shield the outlet to block the signal/emfs from coming into the room when the cable is unplugged and I'm not using the internet, but I want to do so in a way that allows me to remove the shield or sneak a cable behind it when I do need to get online. Any thoughts on how to do this? Anyone know whether it is likely magnetic or electrical fields that are bothering me? Thanks so much.

James

RE: effective way to block internet broadband signal

Hi Russ,

Some internet modems continue to send out wifi “here I am” messages, even when wifi is supposedly turned off. Are you sure it’s not the modem that’s bothering you?

James

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Russ

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The modem is more than 50 yards away. So I don't think it is the modem.

Fog Top

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Are you sure that in your computer's internet connection settings that the wireless connection option has been disabled? If it not it may be putting out a 2.4 GHz or higher pulse every 30 seconds trying to connect wirelessly.

I had a laptop in which I was connecting with an Ethernet cable but forgot to disable the wireless connection setup. Soon after I was the disabled one.

Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 06:27:15 -0700
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Subject: [ES] effective way to block internet broadband signal

I am very sensitive to the signal from broadband internet (not wifi, just regular cabled internet). Even when I unplug the internet cable from the wall outlet I can still feel the signal coming into the room from that area. I want to shield the outlet to block the signal/emfs from coming into the room when the cable is unplugged and I'm not using the internet, but I want to do so in a way that allows me to remove the shield or sneak a cable behind it when I do need to get online. Any thoughts on how to do this? Anyone know whether it is likely magnetic or electrical fields that are bothering me? Thanks so much.

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Patricia

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russ, by 'outlet' do you mean you have one of

those systems that uses the electrical system

to send the internet connection all through

your house? something like this?...

http://www.amazon.com/Netgear-85Mbps-Powerline-Network-Adapter/dp/B001AZUTCS

love, patricia

On Dec 8, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Russ [via ES] wrote:

The modem is more than 50 yards away. So I don't think it is the modem.

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Russ

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FogTop - I am using a desktop, not a laptop. It does not have any built in wireless connectivity.

Patricia - No, I do not have one of those devices that sends the internet signal thru the electrical wiring of the house. I have a satellite internet provider. The satellite signal comes into a utility shed located about 50-60 yards from my house/cottage. The modem and/or router is located in the utility shed (I did not set all this up so not sure exactly what is configured in there). There is then wiring that runs to my cottage and I have a jack, similar to a phone jack for a landline phone, but which takes an internet cable. That is how I connect to the internet, by plugging a cable into that jack or outlet as I called it before. The other end of that cable is plugged into my desktop computer.

Hope that makes things clearer. Important to note, this problem is not specific to this setup. I have been sensitive to the internet signal in several places I have lived. There is something about the internet signal that really bothers me. I am surprised others do not have this problem.

Patricia

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yes! my laptop does that.

when i have had a miserable sleep,

in the morning i find that the laptop

was not completely shut down and

was searching for a wireless connection,

even tho it's set to 'ethernet'.

we ARE sensitive, aren't we?

but so were the native Americans...

and so are most people who live in

more natural conditions.

we are overwhelmed by technology

and don't notice it much until we are

FLOORED by it.

i'd rather be aware of it than to die,

oblivious of why.

when i know what's going on, i can

DO something about it.... like turn my

computer OFF and unplug the desktop

computer and flip breakers around my

bed, etc.

love, patricia

On Dec 8, 2014, at 10:24 AM, Fog Top [via ES] wrote:

Are you sure that in your computer's internet connection settings that the wireless connection option has been disabled? If it not it may be putting out a 2.4 GHz or higher pulse every 30 seconds trying to connect wirelessly.

I had a laptop in which I was connecting with an Ethernet cable but forgot to disable the wireless connection setup. Soon after I was the disabled one.

Fog Top

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I use broadband DSL internet through a dedicated telephone line and wrap my modem in heavy duty foil.  The modem gets hot but there has been no problem after a couple of years of use. I live in the boonies so it's a slow 1.5 mbps connection.  A RF meter shows that even on a wired connection, at startup it will briefly put out some signals over 700 MHz.

I am very affected by the signal coming off computer monitors.  The sound of this signal can be picked up with an AM battery operated radio on off-station mode. I can feel it farther beyond where the signal can be heard with the radio.

If using the Windows "shut-down" button to turn off, it will still remain on in standby mode and continue to send out RF. It has to be unplugged or put on a power strip with a turn-off button to really shut it down.

We have satellite TV at our house - unfortunately, but hubby would be sitting in bars watching football if we didn't. The satellite dish is far away from the house but a cable from it enters the house and puts out a tremendous amount of dirty electricity (again the AM radio test). An ES engineer showed us how to eliminate this problem with special cables.

Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 09:37:13 -0700
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FogTop - I am using a desktop, not a laptop. It does not have any built in wireless connectivity.

Patricia - No, I do not have one of those devices that sends the internet signal thru the electrical wiring of the house. I have a satellite internet provider. The satellite signal comes into a utility shed located about 50-60 yards from my house/cottage. The modem and/or router is located in the utility shed (I did not set all this up so not sure exactly what is configured in there). There is then wiring that runs to my cottage and I have a jack, similar to a phone jack for a landline phone, but which takes an internet cable. That is how I connect to the internet, by plugging a cable into that jack or outlet as I called it before. The other end of that cable is plugged into my desktop computer.

Hope that makes things clearer. Important to note, this problem is not specific to this setup. I have been sensitive to the internet signal in several places I have lived. There is something about the internet signal that really bothers me. I am surprised others do not have this problem.

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Russ

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What you said Fog Top, about the satellite tv bringing in lots of dirty electricity, that may be the problem I'm having...I know I am very sensitive to dirty electricity.

Patricia

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hmm... thanks for explaining, russ.

i wonder if the satellite signal is what

you are experiencing. ?

wow! here is a group that explains a

lot about satellite internet health problems...

http://www.mast-victims.org/forum/index.php?action=vthread&forum=3&topic=4893

love, patricia

On Dec 8, 2014, at 10:37 AM, Russ [via ES] wrote:

FogTop - I am using a desktop, not a laptop. It does not have any built in wireless connectivity.

Patricia - No, I do not have one of those devices that sends the internet signal thru the electrical wiring of the house. I have a satellite internet provider. The satellite signal comes into a utility shed located about 50-60 yards from my house/cottage. The modem and/or router is located in the utility shed (I did not set all this up so not sure exactly what is configured in there). There is then wiring that runs to my cottage and I have a jack, similar to a phone jack for a landline phone, but which takes an internet cable. That is how I connect to the internet, by plugging a cable into that jack or outlet as I called it before. The other end of that cable is plugged into my desktop computer.

Hope that makes things clearer. Important to note, this problem is not specific to this setup. I have been sensitive to the internet signal in several places I have lived. There is something about the internet signal that really bothers me. I am surprised others do not have this problem.

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Marc Martin

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On December 8, "Russ [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hope that makes things clearer. Important to note, this problem is not
> specific to this setup. I have been sensitive to the internet signal in
> several places I have lived. There is something about the internet signal
> that really bothers me. I am surprised others do not have this problem.

I have this problem. :-)

But you're right, most people don't seem to comprehend this, and are
quick to blame wi-fi instead (even though, like you, there is no wi-fi in
my house).

The problem for me is the signal ON THE CABLE (cable coax from the
street to the modem), so the solution was to make sure that I keep my
distance from the cable. For me, that meant putting the cable and the
modem in another room and then using long Ethernet cables to get to
the computer (since the Ethernet cables don't bother me). Also
at the outside splitter, disconnecting the cables to all outlets that
aren't being used. And to top it off, I added an attenuator at the
splitter to reduce the level of the signals in the wires.

Marc

charles

Re: effective way to block internet broadband signal

You should look at the pictures I placed on:
http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina600.html

It is a very simple way of reflecting the longitudinal waves, coming from cables.

Because your RF meter does not show any signals, this does not mean thet the longitudinal waves are not present. They do travel over much longer distances than transversal waves can.

Marc Martin

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On December 17, "charles [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> You should look at the pictures I placed on:
> http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina600.html
>
> It is a very simple way of reflecting the longitudinal waves, coming from
> cables.

Charles, since that page is quite long, and not in English, could you
briefly point out what specifically you are recommending for cables?

Thanks,
Marc

charles

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Hello Marc,

but there is a saying that one image tells more than a thousand words.

The images are not in Dutch, but in color.
One example:
One has to apply that consequently on all cables.

Another example:
The cable, just before the plug is *treated* and the loading trafo of my laptop has a *coat of this Aaronia A2000 glass fiber.
Before, when I charged my laptop, my wife who does not feel any mobile phone masts, nor DECT anymore, still felt it in the other room. With these measures, she sits beside it, without any *feelings*.

Marc Martin

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This post was updated on .

Okay, thanks -- I see that the second photo is obviously of the Aaronia A2000
glass fiber. But is the first photo also using this, or is it using something
else? The photo makes it look like you've wrapped a small amount of aluminum
foil around part of the cable? Maybe that's duct tape?

Marc

Fog Top

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Charles, would this be effective for recharging an iPod? My iPod puts out a huge magnetic field plus microwaves when recharging, so I only recharge when I can promptly leave the house, but I worry about the effects on my dogs who stay behind.

Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 10:14:26 -0700
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Hello Marc,

but there is a saying that one image tells more than a thousand words.

The images are not in Dutch, but in color.
One example:
One has to apply that consequently on all cables.

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charles

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Around the cable is adhesive aluminium film of 50 mm (2") double around the cable near the plug, the incoming side of the electricity.

The grey adhesive tape around the trafo is just to fasten the Aaronia glass fiber.

Here another example.
This is a so-called *Brains machine*. Normally electrosensitives cannot stand it, but adapted like on the image, electrosensitives do work 8 hours a day on it, which is too long, but possible.
I have a very electrosensitive client who consequently applied all my advises, and has a better life now.
The pains of the last 10 years are gone, the back is straighter (1") and overall better health.
I did sent you the english issue of *het bitje* November 2014 about these *Brains Machines*.
Also I have started a special international forum for users of these machines to give some support, which runs well.

Marc Martin

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On December 17, "charles [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Around the cable is adhesive aluminium film of 50 mm (2") double around the
> cable near the plug, the incoming side of the electricity.

Thanks, so that is just regular aluminum tape, that one might find in a common hardware
store?

Marc

charles

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Hello fog top,

sure it can help you with your iPod.

Another example:

Marc Martin

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On December 17, "charles [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hello fog top,
> sure it can help you with your iPod.
> Another example:

It would appear from this example that it's not important to block the
phone, iPad, etc. from all sides, as the top of this enclosure is open.

Marc