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SArjuna

effect of neighbors' tv, etc.

In a message dated 1/18/10 Eli wrote:

> In my case a neighbor's TV is rocking me - up to
> 30 ft away I get tinnitus and other symptoms. After
> many hours of inspecting our power (with an oscilloscope)
> I've found very little correlation. Sometimes the
> power gets particularly dirty, but I'm unable to
> reproducibly associate it with their TV.
> My conclusion therefore is radiation rather than
> conduction on the lines.
>
I'm not sure I understand your scenario. What makes you think it's
their tv that's bothering you, then? Can you see when they have it on and
does that correlate in time with your symptoms?
The times that your electricity gets particularly dirty depend on
what everyone on your substation line is doing, not just what your immediate
neighbors are up to. When the electricity is particularly dirty, how do
you feel?
Shivani Arjuna
www.LifeEnergies.com

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charles-4

Re: effect of neighbors' tv, etc.

Hello,

I think that here we do not have a matter of *dirty power* but *dirty air*.

If you do not have a special VLF detector, one may use a HAM radio as a
detector.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton

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Subject: [eSens] effect of neighbors' tv, etc.

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> In a message dated 1/18/10 Eli wrote:
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>> In my case a neighbor's TV is rocking me - up to
>> 30 ft away I get tinnitus and other symptoms. After
>> many hours of inspecting our power (with an oscilloscope)
>> I've found very little correlation. Sometimes the
>> power gets particularly dirty, but I'm unable to
>> reproducibly associate it with their TV.
>> My conclusion therefore is radiation rather than
>> conduction on the lines.
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> I'm not sure I understand your scenario. What makes you think it's
> their tv that's bothering you, then? Can you see when they have it on
> and
> does that correlate in time with your symptoms?
> The times that your electricity gets particularly dirty depend on
> what everyone on your substation line is doing, not just what your
> immediate
> neighbors are up to. When the electricity is particularly dirty, how do
> you feel?
> Shivani Arjuna
> www.LifeEnergies.com
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BiBrun

Re: effect of neighbors' tv, etc.

Ramsey electronics sells a "passive" airband radio kit for $90
(or preassembled $150). I'm planning to get one. Ideally
it could be modified for even broader reception, and directional
antenna?

I suppose the neighbor's TV could be radiating through
their power lines, and those radiate through air to your
place. So it might be worth trying a filter
(Tripp Lite makes some consumer oriented ones that are worth trying) at the
TV.

What kind of TV is it? A lot of the big flat panels can make
an AM radio buzz several feet away.

When you test your power, do you have a clean ground to
measure against?

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 3:15 PM, charles <[hidden email]> wrote:

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>
> Hello,
>
> I think that here we do not have a matter of *dirty power* but *dirty air*.
>
> If you do not have a special VLF detector, one may use a HAM radio as a
> detector.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Norton
>
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:10 PM
> Subject: [eSens] effect of neighbors' tv, etc.
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> > In a message dated 1/18/10 Eli wrote:
> >
> >> In my case a neighbor's TV is rocking me - up to
> >> 30 ft away I get tinnitus and other symptoms. After
> >> many hours of inspecting our power (with an oscilloscope)
> >> I've found very little correlation. Sometimes the
> >> power gets particularly dirty, but I'm unable to
> >> reproducibly associate it with their TV.
> >> My conclusion therefore is radiation rather than
> >> conduction on the lines.
> >>
> > I'm not sure I understand your scenario. What makes you think it's
> > their tv that's bothering you, then? Can you see when they have it on
> > and
> > does that correlate in time with your symptoms?
> > The times that your electricity gets particularly dirty depend on
> > what everyone on your substation line is doing, not just what your
> > immediate
> > neighbors are up to. When the electricity is particularly dirty, how do
> > you feel?
> > Shivani Arjuna
> > www.LifeEnergies.com
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Marc Martin

Re: effect of neighbors' tv, etc.

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> I suppose the neighbor's TV could be radiating through their power
> lines, and those radiate through air to your place. So it might be
> worth trying a filter (Tripp Lite makes some consumer oriented ones
> that are worth trying) at the TV.

Yes, but wouldn't you have to get your neighbor to use the filter on
their TV? Good luck with that... :-)

Marc

PUK

Re: effect of neighbors' tv, etc.

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In a message dated 18/02/2010 19:30:59 GMT Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

I suppose the neighbor's TV could be radiating through their power
> lines, and those radiate through air to your place. So it might be
> worth trying a filter (Tripp Lite makes some consumer oriented ones
> that are worth trying) at the TV.

Yes, but wouldn't you have to get your neighbor to use the filter on
their TV? Good luck with that... :-)

Marc

PUK replies - yes poor emc design in some tvs and consumer electronics
leads to just this ie conducted emissions which will also lead to radiated
emissions along their path, the length Of the cables or should i saY unintended
antennas will change frequncy of input and so on its complcated, imagine a
hose pipe with loads of small holes - a leaky feader well thats what we
have, but if the conduceted emissions find their way into your house cables
then you have a concentrated burst of signals, you might as well be sitting
in front of the neighbours TV and when I say neighbour I mean anyone within
100m or more on the same phase as the offending TV, like me you are
getting a power driven modulated conducted signal form a bad Plasma TV into you
home then the only way you can stop it is to smoke the TV ! I have told
the people who have the TV 18 months ago ( and in a letter) that the
emissions make me very unwell and that it should be incumbant upon them to stop
them emissions from leaving their property via the mains and telecoms cables,
essentially they are electronically torturing and assualting me on a daily
basis !

puk

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PUK

Re: effect of neighbors' tv, etc.

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Take some cat poo next time it snows and wrap it up in a snow ball and
start throwing, then watch and wait while it thawas - good therapy

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PUK

Re: effect of neighbors' tv, etc.

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In a message dated 18/02/2010 16:13:45 GMT Standard Time, [hidden email]
writes:

In my case a neighbor's TV is rocking me - up to
> >> 30 ft away I get tinnitus and other symptoms. After
> >> many hours of inspecting our power (with an oscilloscope)
> >> I've found very little correlation. Sometimes the
> >> power gets particularly dirty, but I'm unable to
> >> reproducibly associate it with their TV.
> >> My conclusion therefore is radiation rather than

PUK replies - In my case the Pioneer 42 inch Plasma TV, is sending out a
unmistakable signal via the mains and telecoms from over 100ft straight into
my house and others in the vicinity, you would know if this was happening
by using an AM radio placed near your breaker box, wait and listen, I
initially found the problem on my telecoms cables and quickly realised that it
was swamping everything conductive, it makes a sound like a agressive fax
machine via the radio. Would it help if I youtubed this ?

puk

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PUK

Re: effect of neighbors' tv, etc.

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In a message dated 17/02/2010 22:31:44 GMT Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

Hello,

I think that here we do not have a matter of *dirty power* but *dirty air*.

PUK replies - dirty power will become dirty air and to some extent vicere
verser, if its in the wires it in the air !

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