dirty electricity meter

All:

For those of you tired of judging kHz frequencies by sound alone, you can get a Grundig G8 from Radio Shack under 30-day return policy.  It's not just a radio but it also has a signal level indicator for the kHz frequencies.  Check monitors, keyboards, wires, dimmer switches, projectors, and all sorts of things, e.g., at 520 kHz frequency or other kHz frequency of your choice.

See http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/detection.php

Using the Grundig G8 signal level meter from Radio Shack, at ~520 kHz, I found a projector to be quite high in kHz frequencies plugged in, even if it is powered off-- maybe 100x higher than my monitor.  Not good for someone with ES, unless you keep greater distance from your projector.

Would be interesting now to compare
* plasma TV to conventional LCD TV
* Switching vs. non-switching power supplies.
and so forth...


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> All:
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> For those of you tired of judging kHz frequencies by sound alone, you can get a Grundig G8 from Radio Shack under 30-day return policy.  It's not just a radio but it also has a signal level indicator for the kHz frequencies.  Check monitors, keyboards, wires, dimmer switches, projectors, and all sorts of things, e.g., at 520 kHz frequency or other kHz frequency of your choice.
>
> See http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/detection.php
>

 The meter for metering dirty electricity is the Stetzerizer,which you can read about on my site, www.LifeEnergies.com.

It costs only $100 and you just plug it into any outlet to get a digital reading.  Those who are very sensitive need a level not above 20.  Personally, I'm now OK at up to 50.

To lower the level of electricl pollution in your home, you install a sufficient number of Stetzerizer filters to bring the reading down.

The pollution on your substation line will vary depending on what others on the same line are doing that's adding pollution to the electricity, so many people leave the meter plugged in (It does not use electricity that you will pay for.) to monitor what their situation is.   (Superbowl, or high military alterts, for instance, result in higher readings.)

Installing filters deals nicely with what's on the circuits.  You will still have do deal with what's on phone lines, water pipes, metal ductwork, etc.  And with airborne communications signals, including that from radio wave broadcasting utility meters.

Shivani Arjuna
www.LifeEnergies.com

 




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A cheap $15 radio can show that the Stetzerizer filter actually increases your exposure to digital kHz frequencies.  A body voltage meter also shows it increases body voltage.  Though possibly it fixes one thing, it harms another.

If $100 sounds little to you, consider the Grundig G8 from Radio Shack is only $50 or less.  Grundig is a famous radio brand.

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>  The meter for metering dirty electricity is the Stetzerizer,which you can read about on my site, www.LifeEnergies.com.
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> It costs only $100 and you just plug it into any outlet to get a digital reading.  Those who are very sensitive need a level not above 20.  Personally, I'm now OK at up to 50.

As I mentioned before, The Stetzer stuff is not adequate enough.

Stetzer goes only up to 150 kHz.
But above that, there are also very mean and nasty frequencies, which should be treated also.

The Entech Wideband Powerline Noise Analyzer measures up to ca 800 kHz.

My Spectran NF 5035, with a Differential Probe measures up to 30 MHz.

The Grundig G8 looks fine to me.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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  A cheap $15 radio can show that the Stetzerizer filter actually increases your exposure to digital kHz frequencies.  A body voltage meter also shows it increases body voltage.  Though possibly it fixes one thing, it harms another.

  If $100 sounds little to you, consider the Grundig G8 from Radio Shack is only $50 or less.  Grundig is a famous radio brand.

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  >  The meter for metering dirty electricity is the Stetzerizer,which you can read about on my site, www.LifeEnergies.com.
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  > It costs only $100 and you just plug it into any outlet to get a digital reading.  Those who are very sensitive need a level not above 20.  Personally, I'm now OK at up to 50.




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 Charles posted:

"Stetzer goes only up to 150 kHz.
But above that, there are also very mean and nasty frequencies, which should be treated also.

The Entech Wideband Powerline Noise Analyzer measures up to ca 800 kHz.

My Spectran NF 5035, with a Differential Probe measures up to 30 MHz. "

The Stetzer meter was designed to meter the frequencies most common in dirty electricity created by household electronics.  The Stetzer filters remove 4 to 100 KHz.  No point in the meter metering what the filters do not filter.  Most of the pollution is within that range.  

Yes, there are now other frequencies that are harmful.  How do you treat those, Charles?

At any rate, installing the filters makes a tremendous difference for sensitive people and they have saved many lives.  Removing a great portion a person's stress is obviously a good thing.

Now we need filters for Rf-broadcasting meter frequencies, etc. that can remove these from buildilng wiring.

Shivani Arjuna
www.lifeEnergies.com



 




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There are many other filters on planet Earth
other than $5 bypass capacitors. They can
be designed to filter in the mega hertz range
that Charles is referring to, and address common
mode as well as differential noise.

Eli

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I used the stezter filters but seemed to make things worse for me. Not sure why. The stetzer meter did read that it brought the Dirty E. down but still my skin stung & I had worse fatigue?
 
So I sent them back. The RF is a problem but I thought at least it would make things better for me. Disapointed! 
 
Loni

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Charles posted:

"Stetzer goes only up to 150 kHz.
But above that, there are also very mean and nasty frequencies, which should be treated also.

The Entech Wideband Powerline Noise Analyzer measures up to ca 800 kHz.

My Spectran NF 5035, with a Differential Probe measures up to 30 MHz. "

The Stetzer meter was designed to meter the frequencies most common in dirty electricity created by household electronics. The Stetzer filters remove 4 to 100 KHz. No point in the meter metering what the filters do not filter. Most of the pollution is within that range.

Yes, there are now other frequencies that are harmful. How do you treat those, Charles?

At any rate, installing the filters makes a tremendous difference for sensitive people and they have saved many lives. Removing a great portion a person's stress is obviously a good thing.

Now we need filters for Rf-broadcasting meter frequencies, etc. that can remove these from buildilng wiring.

Shivani Arjuna
www.lifeEnergies.com

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Same here..
I think that if there are wiring errors, the steizer's makes things worse.
I have read this and will dig up the articles and post, when I get a chance.
I have stressed this point to many. CHECK to make sure there are NO wiring
errors BEFORE using steizers filters.
Lizzie

 



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I used the stezter filters but seemed to make things worse for me. Not sure why. The stetzer meter did read that it brought the Dirty E. down but still my skin stung & I had worse fatigue?
 
So I sent them back. The RF is a problem but I thought at least it would make things better for me. Disapointed!  
 
Loni

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Charles posted:

"Stetzer goes only up to 150 kHz.
But above that, there are also very mean and nasty frequencies, which should be treated also.

The Entech Wideband Powerline Noise Analyzer measures up to ca 800 kHz.

My Spectran NF 5035, with a Differential Probe measures up to 30 MHz. "

The Stetzer meter was designed to meter the frequencies most common in dirty electricity created by household electronics. The Stetzer filters remove 4 to 100 KHz. No point in the meter metering what the filters do not filter. Most of the pollution is within that range.

Yes, there are now other frequencies that are harmful. How do you treat those, Charles?

At any rate, installing the filters makes a tremendous difference for sensitive people and they have saved many lives. Removing a great portion a person's stress is obviously a good thing.

Now we need filters for Rf-broadcasting meter frequencies, etc. that can remove these from buildilng wiring.

Shivani Arjuna
www.lifeEnergies.com

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What is a wiring error? Would I call an electrician & ask him to check for wiring errors?  Loni

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Same here..
I think that if there are wiring errors, the steizer's makes things worse.
I have read this and will dig up the articles and post, when I get a chance.
I have stressed this point to many. CHECK to make sure there are NO wiring
errors BEFORE using steizers filters.
Lizzie

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From: [hidden email]
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 08:29:02 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: dirty electricity meter

I used the stezter filters but seemed to make things worse for me. Not sure why. The stetzer meter did read that it brought the Dirty E. down but still my skin stung & I had worse fatigue?

So I sent them back. The RF is a problem but I thought at least it would make things better for me. Disapointed!

Loni

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Subject: [eSens] Re: dirty electricity meter
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, June 23, 2011, 8:23 PM

Charles posted:

"Stetzer goes only up to 150 kHz.
But above that, there are also very mean and nasty frequencies, which should be treated also.

The Entech Wideband Powerline Noise Analyzer measures up to ca 800 kHz.

My Spectran NF 5035, with a Differential Probe measures up to 30 MHz. "

The Stetzer meter was designed to meter the frequencies most common in dirty electricity created by household electronics. The Stetzer filters remove 4 to 100 KHz. No point in the meter metering what the filters do not filter. Most of the pollution is within that range.

Yes, there are now other frequencies that are harmful. How do you treat those, Charles?

At any rate, installing the filters makes a tremendous difference for sensitive people and they have saved many lives. Removing a great portion a person's stress is obviously a good thing.

Now we need filters for Rf-broadcasting meter frequencies, etc. that can remove these from buildilng wiring.

Shivani Arjuna
www.lifeEnergies.com

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Loni,
Wiring errors are more common then we like to think.
Yes, have an electrician "that you trust" check the wiring. *But first,
you can go the Home Depot, or local hardware store s/times carries
what is called: "an outlet tester". It's a 3 dollar little yellow box
that one can plug into the outlet. The box has 3 lights on it, and a diagram
that shows you what the lights mean. The outlet tester tells you if
your outlets are wired right, and if they are grounded. Some outlets
are wired wrong and show "HOT/REVERSE". This is BAD!
I would do that first...if it shows you have some outlets that are NOT wired
right, then call in an Electrician. **For those who are very senstive to BAD
wiring, if possible, have a friend plug the outlet tester into the outlets, for you.
Otherwise, if the outlet is NOT wired right, YOU can get current from plugging
it in......STart with the outlets you USE the most...because those will be
the ones that effect you the most.
I had an outlet that was wired HOT/REVERSE that I had plugged a fan into...
because the outlet was wired WRONG, the fan became ENERGIZED. NOt a good
thing for anyone..let alone ES people. Energized means there is live current
on the appliance!
LIzzie

 



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What is a wiring error? Would I call an electrician & ask him to check for wiring errors?  Loni

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Date: Friday, June 24, 2011, 9:57 AM

 

Same here..
I think that if there are wiring errors, the steizer's makes things worse.
I have read this and will dig up the articles and post, when I get a chance.
I have stressed this point to many. CHECK to make sure there are NO wiring
errors BEFORE using steizers filters.
Lizzie

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From: [hidden email]
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 08:29:02 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: dirty electricity meter

I used the stezter filters but seemed to make things worse for me. Not sure why. The stetzer meter did read that it brought the Dirty E. down but still my skin stung & I had worse fatigue?

So I sent them back. The RF is a problem but I thought at least it would make things better for me. Disapointed!

Loni

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From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: dirty electricity meter
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, June 23, 2011, 8:23 PM

Charles posted:

"Stetzer goes only up to 150 kHz.
But above that, there are also very mean and nasty frequencies, which should be treated also.

The Entech Wideband Powerline Noise Analyzer measures up to ca 800 kHz.

My Spectran NF 5035, with a Differential Probe measures up to 30 MHz. "

The Stetzer meter was designed to meter the frequencies most common in dirty electricity created by household electronics. The Stetzer filters remove 4 to 100 KHz. No point in the meter metering what the filters do not filter. Most of the pollution is within that range.

Yes, there are now other frequencies that are harmful. How do you treat those, Charles?

At any rate, installing the filters makes a tremendous difference for sensitive people and they have saved many lives. Removing a great portion a person's stress is obviously a good thing.

Now we need filters for Rf-broadcasting meter frequencies, etc. that can remove these from buildilng wiring.

Shivani Arjuna
www.lifeEnergies.com

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> I used the stezter filters but seemed to make things worse for me.

Yes, the Stetzer filters caused me additional problems that
I did not have before.  And there is nothing wrong with my wiring --
I had it checked and fixed before I even moved into the house.

However, I should not limit this complaint to just the Stetzer filters --
I've tried other filters that also using shunt-capacitor technology,
and these caused me the same problems.

Marc