Dear Richard, and others who responded to my survey regarding feeling better after dawn, thank you very much for your kind contribution! I agree with Michelle and Stewart regarding possible relationship with ionosphere, just before explaining, I am concerned at the moment with attempts to collect and match other similar experiences, as I don´t fully trust myself... Richard´s observation suggests that an ancient wisdom could be based on similar observations, despite (apparently) not having much to do with the EMF issue... Likely, when I had a bakery, it was well known that the toughest part of the night shift was the hour just before dawn, independently on whether dawn happened at 4 (summer) or 6.30 (winter)... Also, some believe that hour is responsible for statistically higher possibility of machine failures, independently on human error, but I did´t make such statistics... By the way, possibly, there are more such observations hidden in the world,but whenever I search the net for something such mysterious (including Electrosensitivity), I keep encountering either scientific simplifications or ¨astral hallucinations¨... If you get what I mean, I would appreciate your suggestions for further research, not only regarding ES, as I think we have to look broader for understanding ES... For example as I consider Richard´s contribution regarding dawn precious for my survey, I would like toinvestigate further the ancient wisdom he presented, just I don´t know where to start... I mean - who does care for such stuff any more!? Drasko [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Hello Drasko,
we also do have a biological clock in our body. The Germans call that Organuhr. If you Google for that you wiill find some sites with information. F.i. http://www.naturheilpraxis-voigt.de/organuhr.htm Be aware that electrosensitivity is just an illness, which houses in some organs and immune system. First the liver, than the stomach, etc. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drasko Cvijovic" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 1:47 PM Subject: [eSens] dawn Dear Richard, and others who responded to my survey regarding feeling better after dawn, thank you very much for your kind contribution! I agree with Michelle and Stewart regarding possible relationship with ionosphere, just before explaining, I am concerned at the moment with attempts to collect and match other similar experiences, as I don´t fully trust myself... Richard´s observation suggests that an ancient wisdom could be based on similar observations, despite (apparently) not having much to do with the EMF issue... Likely, when I had a bakery, it was well known that the toughest part of the night shift was the hour just before dawn, independently on whether dawn happened at 4 (summer) or 6.30 (winter)... Also, some believe that hour is responsible for statistically higher possibility of machine failures, independently on human error, but I did´t make such statistics... By the way, possibly, there are more such observations hidden in the world, but whenever I search the net for something such mysterious (including Electrosensitivity), I keep encountering either scientific simplifications or ¨astral hallucinations¨... If you get what I mean, I would appreciate your suggestions for further research, not only regarding ES, as I think we have to look broader for understanding ES... For example as I consider Richard´s contribution regarding dawn precious for my survey, I would like to investigate further the ancient wisdom he presented, just I don´t know where to start... I mean - who does care for such stuff any more!? Drasko [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links |
Hello, Charles! Good to be in a communication with you again, after all those years! Thank you for your concern regarding my inquiry! Please note that I consider my observations related to appearance of Sun (dawn) and not related to time! Sun rises earlier at summer, also by traveling to South or North biological clocks would have got disturbed... Thereforebiological clocks I don´t see of much relevance... But most interesting is your statement regarding ES being sited in immune organs... Maybe I missed some previous postings, so please give me more reference on the issue! Regards, Drasko --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote: > > Hello Drasko, > > we also do have a biological clock in our body. > > The Germans call that Organuhr. > > If you Google for that you wiill find some sites with information. > F.i. http://www.naturheilpraxis-voigt.de/organuhr.htm > > Be aware that electrosensitivity is just an illness, which houses in some > organs and immune system. > First the liver, than the stomach, etc. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Norton > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Drasko Cvijovic" <cvijovic@...> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 1:47 PM > Subject: [eSens] dawn > > > > Dear Richard, and others who responded to my survey regarding feeling better > after dawn, thank you very much for your kind contribution! > I agree with Michelle and Stewart regarding possible relationship with > ionosphere, just before explaining, I am concerned at the moment with > attempts to collect and match other similar experiences, as I don´t fully > trust myself... > > Richard´s observation suggests that an ancient wisdom could be based on > similar observations, despite (apparently) not having much to do with the > EMF issue... > Likely, when I had a bakery, it was well known that the toughest part of the > night shift was the hour just before dawn, independently on whether dawn > happened at 4 (summer) or 6.30 (winter)... Also, some believe that hour is > responsible for statistically higher possibility of machine failures, > independently on human error, but I did´t make such statistics... > > By the way, possibly, there are more such observations hidden in the world, > but whenever I search the net for something such mysterious (including > Electrosensitivity), I keep encountering either scientific simplifications > or ¨astral hallucinations¨... If you get what I mean, I would appreciate > your suggestions for further research, not only regarding ES, as I think we > have to look broader for understanding ES... For example as I consider > Richard´s contribution regarding dawn precious for my survey, I would like > to investigate further the ancient wisdom he presented, just I don´t know > where to start... I mean - who does care for such stuff any more!? > > Drasko > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > |
Hello Drasko,
it is really quite simple. Electrosensitivity ist just an illness. And illnesses can be treated. This illness ist strongly related to a damaged immune system. Boosting the immune system will get rid of the sensibility for EMF. I am running a pilot project at the moment. Some very heavy electrosensible people already have gotten rid of they sensibility for 99.8 %. My schematics consist of a number of 22 points which have to be followed all. I now wait for the results of the ongoing project. And I am working on some refinements of it. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: "cvijovic" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 5:42 PM Subject: [eSens] ES residing in liver? Hello, Charles! Good to be in a communication with you again, after all those years! Thank you for your concern regarding my inquiry! Please note that I consider my observations related to appearance of Sun (dawn) and not related to time! Sun rises earlier at summer, also by traveling to South or North biological clocks would have got disturbed... Therefore biological clocks I don´t see of much relevance... But most interesting is your statement regarding ES being sited in immune organs... Maybe I missed some previous postings, so please give me more reference on the issue! Regards, Drasko --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote: > > Hello Drasko, > > we also do have a biological clock in our body. > > The Germans call that Organuhr. > > If you Google for that you wiill find some sites with information. > F.i. http://www.naturheilpraxis-voigt.de/organuhr.htm > > Be aware that electrosensitivity is just an illness, which houses in some > organs and immune system. > First the liver, than the stomach, etc. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Norton > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Drasko Cvijovic" <cvijovic@...> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 1:47 PM > Subject: [eSens] dawn > > > > Dear Richard, and others who responded to my survey regarding feeling > better > after dawn, thank you very much for your kind contribution! > I agree with Michelle and Stewart regarding possible relationship with > ionosphere, just before explaining, I am concerned at the moment with > attempts to collect and match other similar experiences, as I don´t fully > trust myself... > > Richard´s observation suggests that an ancient wisdom could be based on > similar observations, despite (apparently) not having much to do with the > EMF issue... > Likely, when I had a bakery, it was well known that the toughest part of > the > night shift was the hour just before dawn, independently on whether dawn > happened at 4 (summer) or 6.30 (winter)... Also, some believe that hour is > responsible for statistically higher possibility of machine failures, > independently on human error, but I did´t make such statistics... > > By the way, possibly, there are more such observations hidden in the > world, > but whenever I search the net for something such mysterious (including > Electrosensitivity), I keep encountering either scientific simplifications > or ¨astral hallucinations¨... If you get what I mean, I would appreciate > your suggestions for further research, not only regarding ES, as I think > we > have to look broader for understanding ES... For example as I consider > Richard´s contribution regarding dawn precious for my survey, I would like > to investigate further the ancient wisdom he presented, just I don´t know > where to start... I mean - who does care for such stuff any more!? > > Drasko > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Hello Charles,
I am very interested in your work especially what you had to say about the Liver. When I am exposed to EMF from my cordless phone and my computer mouse I can feel the effect on my liver. I get swollen in that area. Looking forward to more information from you. Thanks, Estelle BTW, a bau biologist came to my house a few years ago when I was living under high powered lines, towers. He told me to move immediately and I did but the damage was already done. Before living there I was not sensitive. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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In a message dated 25/12/2009 16:55:23 GMT Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: Good to be in a communication with you again, after all those years! Thank you for your concern regarding my inquiry! Please note that I consider my observations related to appearance of Sun (dawn) and not related to time! Sun rises earlier at summer, also by traveling to South or North biological clocks would have got disturbed... Therefore biological clocks I don´t see of much relevance PUK replies - perhaps as the sun rises there is a massive surge in natural ion activity which helps to momintarily block the effects of the man made emf, litterally the light drives away the dark but not for long [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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In a message dated 25/12/2009 13:39:35 GMT Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: Be aware that electrosensitivity is just an illness, which houses in some organs and immune system. First the liver, than the stomach, etc. Charles sounds good, but waht about the millions of other illness`s that are immune system related, they simply cant just be cured mostly they are treated ongoing with medication, that said cant wait to hear your results in more detail. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Can't wait to hear of your results Charles! Loni
--- On Fri, 12/25/09, charles <[hidden email]> wrote: From: charles <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] ES residing in liver? To: [hidden email] Date: Friday, December 25, 2009, 9:54 AM Hello Drasko, it is really quite simple. Electrosensitivity ist just an illness. And illnesses can be treated. This illness ist strongly related to a damaged immune system. Boosting the immune system will get rid of the sensibility for EMF. I am running a pilot project at the moment. Some very heavy electrosensible people already have gotten rid of they sensibility for 99.8 %. My schematics consist of a number of 22 points which have to be followed all. I now wait for the results of the ongoing project. And I am working on some refinements of it. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes. nl www.milieuziektes. be www.hetbitje. nl checked by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: "cvijovic" <cvijovic@yahoo. com> To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com> Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 5:42 PM Subject: [eSens] ES residing in liver? Hello, Charles! Good to be in a communication with you again, after all those years! Thank you for your concern regarding my inquiry! Please note that I consider my observations related to appearance of Sun (dawn) and not related to time! Sun rises earlier at summer, also by traveling to South or North biological clocks would have got disturbed... Therefore biological clocks I don´t see of much relevance... But most interesting is your statement regarding ES being sited in immune organs... Maybe I missed some previous postings, so please give me more reference on the issue! Regards, Drasko --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "charles" <charles@... > wrote: > > Hello Drasko, > > we also do have a biological clock in our body. > > The Germans call that Organuhr. > > If you Google for that you wiill find some sites with information. > F.i. http://www.naturhei lpraxis-voigt. de/organuhr. htm > > Be aware that electrosensitivity is just an illness, which houses in some > organs and immune system. > First the liver, than the stomach, etc. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes. nl > www.milieuziektes. be > www.hetbitje. nl > checked by Norton > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Drasko Cvijovic" <cvijovic@.. .> > To: <eSens@yahoogroups. com> > Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 1:47 PM > Subject: [eSens] dawn > > > > Dear Richard, and others who responded to my survey regarding feeling > better > after dawn, thank you very much for your kind contribution! > I agree with Michelle and Stewart regarding possible relationship with > ionosphere, just before explaining, I am concerned at the moment with > attempts to collect and match other similar experiences, as I don´t fully > trust myself... > > Richard´s observation suggests that an ancient wisdom could be basedon > similar observations, despite (apparently) not having much to do with the > EMF issue... > Likely, when I had a bakery, it was well known that the toughest part of > the > night shift was the hour just before dawn, independently on whether dawn > happened at 4 (summer) or 6.30 (winter)... Also, some believe that hour is > responsible for statistically higher possibility of machine failures, > independently on human error, but I did´t make such statistics.. . > > By the way, possibly, there are more such observations hidden in the > world, > but whenever I search the net for something such mysterious (including > Electrosensitivity) , I keep encountering either scientific simplifications > or ¨astral hallucinations¨ ... If you get what I mean, I would appreciate > your suggestions for further research, not only regarding ES, as I think > we > have to look broader for understanding ES... For example as I consider > Richard´s contribution regarding dawn precious for my survey, I would like > to investigate further the ancient wisdom he presented, just I don´tknow > where to start... I mean - who does care for such stuff any more!? > > Drasko > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > ------------ --------- --------- ------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hej Chales
your post looks very interesting. Pls give us afollow up as soon as you'll reach a conclusion. Thanks Giorgio --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote: > > Hello Drasko, > > it is really quite simple. > > Electrosensitivity ist just an illness. > And illnesses can be treated. > > This illness ist strongly related to a damaged immune system. > > Boosting the immune system will get rid of the sensibility for EMF. > > I am running a pilot project at the moment. > Some very heavy electrosensible people already have gotten rid of they > sensibility for 99.8 %. > > My schematics consist of a number of 22 points which have to be followed > all. > I now wait for the results of the ongoing project. > And I am working on some refinements of it. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Norton > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "cvijovic" <cvijovic@...> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 5:42 PM > Subject: [eSens] ES residing in liver? > > > > Hello, Charles! > Good to be in a communication with you again, after all those years! Thank > you for your concern regarding my inquiry! > > Please note that I consider my observations related to appearance of Sun > (dawn) and not related to time! Sun rises earlier at summer, also by > traveling to South or North biological clocks would have got disturbed... > Therefore biological clocks I don´t see of much relevance... > > But most interesting is your statement regarding ES being sited in immune > organs... Maybe I missed some previous postings, so please give me more > reference on the issue! > > Regards, > > Drasko > > --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@> wrote: > > > > Hello Drasko, > > > > we also do have a biological clock in our body. > > > > The Germans call that Organuhr. > > > > If you Google for that you wiill find some sites with information. > > F.i. http://www.naturheilpraxis-voigt.de/organuhr.htm > > > > Be aware that electrosensitivity is just an illness, which houses in some > > organs and immune system. > > First the liver, than the stomach, etc. > > > > Greetings, > > Charles Claessens > > member Verband Baubiologie > > www.milieuziektes.nl > > www.milieuziektes.be > > www.hetbitje.nl > > checked by Norton > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Drasko Cvijovic" <cvijovic@> > > To: <[hidden email]> > > Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 1:47 PM > > Subject: [eSens] dawn > > > > > > > > Dear Richard, and others who responded to my survey regarding feeling > > better > > after dawn, thank you very much for your kind contribution! > > I agree with Michelle and Stewart regarding possible relationship with > > ionosphere, just before explaining, I am concerned at the moment with > > attempts to collect and match other similar experiences, as I don´t fully > > trust myself... > > > > Richard´s observation suggests that an ancient wisdom could be based on > > similar observations, despite (apparently) not having much to do with the > > EMF issue... > > Likely, when I had a bakery, it was well known that the toughest part of > > the > > night shift was the hour just before dawn, independently on whether dawn > > happened at 4 (summer) or 6.30 (winter)... Also, some believe that houris > > responsible for statistically higher possibility of machine failures, > > independently on human error, but I did´t make such statistics... > > > > By the way, possibly, there are more such observations hidden in the > > world, > > but whenever I search the net for something such mysterious (including > > Electrosensitivity), I keep encountering either scientific simplifications > > or ¨astral hallucinations¨... If you get what I mean, I would appreciate > > your suggestions for further research, not only regarding ES, as I think > > we > > have to look broader for understanding ES... For example as I consider > > Richard´s contribution regarding dawn precious for my survey, I wouldlike > > to investigate further the ancient wisdom he presented, just I don´t know > > where to start... I mean - who does care for such stuff any more!? > > > > Drasko > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > |
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