eSens friends,
I think it will help our discussion to make a distinction when talking about "dairy" if you are talking about dairy products that have hormones, antibiotics, pesticides/herbicides, etc. and have been homogenized, pasteurized, etc. vs. organic (no chemicals, hormones, antibiotics, etc.) and raw (unpasteurized, unhomogenized, etc.) There is a huge difference in how a body will react to such wildly different products. How about (when talking about commercial dairy products that are made from sick cows need deep in manure and pumped up with all kinds of chemicals and full of toxins) we refer to them as "MonSatan dairy" (Mansanto plus Satan) and Raw and Organic dairy as "RO dairy." I just made this up so if someone has a better term, feel free to chime in. If you haven't tried RO dairy products, please do before lumping it together with a dairy comment. And, I am a biased observer, being the younger brother of the largest RO dairy provider in California and possibly the US. http://organicpastures.com/ I attribute drinking RO colostrum as one of the biggest factors in my ES recovery. Thank you! Andrew |
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> If you haven't tried RO dairy products, please do before lumping it
> together with a dairy comment. For what it's worth, I find both types of dairy products extremely fattening... :-) (and that milk sold by Andrew's brother is very tasty!) Marc |
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hey, Andrew,
I agree. And I have also a recent study which mentions guernsey cow milk as usually being ok. In US, dairies pool their milk and it is notjust milk from one farm when you buy it. If you can buy dairy products from full-blood guernseys, you will be able to tolerate the milk. I keep meaning to send this study but things come up. And I also agree with what you say re un-fooled-around-with milk. Iused to be totally df, but can now digest it. (However, those starting on gf diets should refrain from dairy products for the 8 months or so, due to df helping the gut heal). Thanks, Andrew, Diane --- On Wed, 2/24/10, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] dairy vs. organic raw dairy To: "eSens" <[hidden email]> Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 9:53 AM eSens friends, I think it will help our discussion to make a distinction when talking about "dairy" if you are talking about dairy products that have hormones, antibiotics, pesticides/herbicid es, etc. and have been homogenized, pasteurized, etc. vs. organic (no chemicals, hormones, antibiotics, etc.) and raw (unpasteurized, unhomogenized, etc.) There is a huge difference in how a body will react to such wildly different products. How about (when talking about commercial dairy products that are made from sick cows need deep in manure and pumped up with all kinds of chemicals and full of toxins) we refer to them as "MonSatan dairy" (Mansanto plus Satan) and Raw and Organic dairy as "RO dairy." I just made this up so if someone has a better term, feel free to chime in. If you haven't tried RO dairy products, please do before lumping it together with a dairy comment. And, I am a biased observer, being the younger brother of the largest RO dairy provider in California and possibly the US. http://organicpastu res.com/ I attribute drinking RO colostrum as one of the biggest factors in my ES recovery. Thank you! Andrew [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Andrew, Well I don't know really but I was tested for dairy & I had intolerance to it. Don't know what type of dairy they used. Loni
--- On Wed, 2/24/10, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] dairy vs. organic raw dairy To: "eSens" <[hidden email]> Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 7:53 AM eSens friends, I think it will help our discussion to make a distinction when talking about "dairy" if you are talking about dairy products that have hormones, antibiotics, pesticides/herbicid es, etc. and have been homogenized, pasteurized, etc. vs. organic (no chemicals, hormones, antibiotics, etc.) and raw (unpasteurized, unhomogenized, etc.) There is a huge difference in how a body will react to such wildly different products. How about (when talking about commercial dairy products that are made from sick cows need deep in manure and pumped up with all kinds of chemicals and full of toxins) we refer to them as "MonSatan dairy" (Mansanto plus Satan) and Raw and Organic dairy as "RO dairy." I just made this up so if someone has a better term, feel free to chime in. If you haven't tried RO dairy products, please do before lumping it together with a dairy comment. And, I am a biased observer, being the younger brother of the largest RO dairy provider in California and possibly the US. http://organicpastu res.com/ I attribute drinking RO colostrum as one of the biggest factors in my ES recovery. Thank you! Andrew [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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We are the only mammal that drinks milk beyond infancy. Many NMD's believe that we cannot metabolize dairy correctly. Dr. Mark Hyman "Ultra Mind Solution" made himself well from being very sick by cutting out Dairy & Gluten. I know when I do eat dairy I develop mucus. Not right.
I'm giving it a try. Loni --- On Wed, 2/24/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] dairy vs. organic raw dairy To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 8:44 AM > If you haven't tried RO dairy products, please do before lumping it > together with a dairy comment. For what it's worth, I find both types of dairy products extremely fattening... :-) (and that milk sold by Andrew's brother is very tasty!) Marc __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Yes, NON organic, Pasteurized and otherwise treated milk common to the
supermarket WILL cause flem and digestion problems, cancer from the hormones, bacterial infections, and on and on. Tuberculosis and other bad bugs can survive the pasteurization/heating process and will thrive in milk because the good bacteria has been killed. Antibiotics have encouraged superbugs and BGH (bovine growth hormones) by our lovely Monsanto :( causes all kinds of health problems. Pesticides and other toxins sprayed on the alfalfa and genetically modified corn/soy/ grains feed to the cows wreaks havoc with our DNA. I do NOT suggest having these milk or dairy products or any processed food/cheese product. I do recommend RAW and ORGANIC dairy. I especially like goat milk because it encourages a more alkaline system response. There are a number of different societal cultures around the world (at least in Mongolia and Africa) that live primarily on milk products and they are perfectly healthy. They often get immediately sick when they eat a western diet of processed and contaminated food. Most every major society has a cultured food that is an essential part to healthy probiotic gut and often it is milk based (kefir, yogurt, cottage cheese, etc.) Without enough good bacteria in your gut, you can't produce enough B12 to give yourself a bright, sunny disposition. The bacteria actually produces it. I think the issue is more related to the crap that is done to milk, not the milk itself. Sure, milk is maybe not for everyone so don't drink/eat dairy if you don't want to. But make sure you know the difference between the products because you may be missing a critical nutrient and probiotic base in your diet. I just want this list to be conscious of the difference between MonSatan Milk and Raw/Organic Milk/Dairy. Thank you, Andrew On Feb 24, 2010, at 10:03 PM, Loni wrote: > We are the only mammal that drinks milk beyond infancy. Many NMD's > believe that we cannot metabolize dairy correctly. Dr. Mark Hyman > "Ultra Mind Solution" made himself well from being very sick by > cutting out Dairy & Gluten. I know when I do eat dairy I develop > mucus. Not right. > > I'm giving it a try. Loni > > --- On Wed, 2/24/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [eSens] dairy vs. organic raw dairy > To: [hidden email] > Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 8:44 AM > > > > > > >> If you haven't tried RO dairy products, please do before lumping it >> together with a dairy comment. > > For what it's worth, I find both types of dairy products extremely > fattening... :-) > > (and that milk sold by Andrew's brother is very tasty!) > > Marc > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > |
Andrew,
Thanks for the info. I didn't know that about B12. I have been buying the injectable methylcobalamine & it is expensive. I am on probiotic so hopefully I'll start making some of it with this GF/dairy free diet. What do you think of the premise that we are the only mammals that consume dairy after infancy suggesting that we shouldn't be???? Loni --- On Thu, 2/25/10, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] dairy vs. organic raw dairy To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 7:55 AM Yes, NON organic, Pasteurized and otherwise treated milk common to the supermarket WILL cause flem and digestion problems, cancer from the hormones, bacterial infections, and on and on. Tuberculosis and other bad bugs can survive the pasteurization/ heating process and will thrive in milk because the good bacteria has been killed. Antibiotics have encouraged superbugs and BGH (bovine growth hormones) by our lovely Monsanto :( causes all kinds of health problems. Pesticides and other toxins sprayed on the alfalfa and genetically modified corn/soy/ grains feed to the cows wreaks havoc with our DNA. I do NOT suggest having these milk or dairy products or any processed food/cheese product. I do recommend RAW and ORGANIC dairy. I especially like goat milk because it encourages a more alkaline system response. There are a number of different societal cultures around the world (at least in Mongolia and Africa) that live primarily on milk products and they are perfectly healthy. They often get immediately sick when they eat a western diet of processed and contaminated food. Most every major society has a cultured food that is an essential part to healthy probiotic gut and often it is milk based (kefir, yogurt, cottage cheese, etc.) Without enough good bacteria in your gut, you can't produce enough B12 to give yourself a bright, sunny disposition. The bacteria actually produces it. I think the issue is more related to the crap that is done to milk, not the milk itself. Sure, milk is maybe not for everyone so don't drink/eat dairy if you don't want to. But make sure you know the difference between the products because you may be missing a critical nutrient and probiotic base in your diet. I just want this list to be conscious of the difference between MonSatan Milk and Raw/Organic Milk/Dairy. Thank you, Andrew On Feb 24, 2010, at 10:03 PM, Loni wrote: > We are the only mammal that drinks milk beyond infancy. Many NMD's > believe that we cannot metabolize dairy correctly. Dr. Mark Hyman > "Ultra Mind Solution" made himself well from being very sick by > cutting out Dairy & Gluten. I know when I do eat dairy I develop > mucus. Not right. > > I'm giving it a try. Loni > > --- On Wed, 2/24/10, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote: > > > From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> > Subject: Re: [eSens] dairy vs. organic raw dairy > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 8:44 AM > > > > > > >> If you haven't tried RO dairy products, please do before lumping it >> together with a dairy comment. > > For what it's worth, I find both types of dairy products extremely > fattening... :-) > > (and that milk sold by Andrew's brother is very tasty!) > > Marc > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail. yahoo.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
I would prefer not to engage in belief system topics because of the
emotional component and blow back. But since you have opened the door and I have a few minutes to rant... Arguments have been made about meat and should we be meat eating or not. My research shows that the homo sapien sapien species is a blend of various ancient Earth hominid DNA indigenous to planet earth and combined with DNA from off world, specifically the Planet Nibiru and a host of other locations in the galaxy (from the Pleiades, Sirius binary system, Orion system, etc.). We have reptilian brain stem and DNA as well as mammalian AND off world DNA to boot. Why would our body require so much of certain minerals that are not found in abundance on Earth? We cannot be compared to only mammals or animals from this world as we are not entirely from this world. I could go on for too long but my answer is eat what you want. I think the no milk campaign is run by NAZI UN Trade globalists (see Codex Alimentarius) who what us to be vegetarians so we will become stupid and weak. That is why our water supplies have Fluoride, our teeth have mercury (and fluoride treatments), the 3rd world countries are vaccinated to become infertile, and our food supply is being systematically taken over by large corporations and destroyed. Believe what you want and do what makes you healthy. I believe in supporting your neighbor to use/smoke and grow pot in his home as long as he doesn't give it to your kids. That me. with love, Andrew On Feb 25, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Loni wrote: > Andrew, > > Thanks for the info. I didn't know that about B12. I have been > buying the injectable methylcobalamine & it is expensive. I am on > probiotic so hopefully I'll start making some of it with this GF/ > dairy free diet. > > What do you think of the premise that we are the only mammals that > consume dairy after infancy suggesting that we shouldn't be???? Loni > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [eSens] dairy vs. organic raw dairy > To: [hidden email] > Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 7:55 AM > > > > > > > Yes, NON organic, Pasteurized and otherwise treated milk common to the > supermarket WILL cause flem and digestion problems, cancer from the > hormones, bacterial infections, and on and on. Tuberculosis and other > bad bugs can survive the pasteurization/ heating process and will > thrive in milk because the good bacteria has been killed. Antibiotics > have encouraged superbugs and BGH (bovine growth hormones) by our > lovely Monsanto :( causes all kinds of health problems. Pesticides and > other toxins sprayed on the alfalfa and genetically modified corn/soy/ > grains feed to the cows wreaks havoc with our DNA. > > I do NOT suggest having these milk or dairy products or any processed > food/cheese product. > > I do recommend RAW and ORGANIC dairy. I especially like goat milk > because it encourages a more alkaline system response. > > There are a number of different societal cultures around the world (at > least in Mongolia and Africa) that live primarily on milk products and > they are perfectly healthy. They often get immediately sick when they > eat a western diet of processed and contaminated food. > > Most every major society has a cultured food that is an essential part > to healthy probiotic gut and often it is milk based (kefir, yogurt, > cottage cheese, etc.) > > Without enough good bacteria in your gut, you can't produce enough > B12 to give yourself a bright, sunny disposition. The bacteria > actually produces it. > > I think the issue is more related to the crap that is done to milk, > not the milk itself. > > Sure, milk is maybe not for everyone so don't drink/eat dairy if you > don't want to. But make sure you know the difference between the > products because you may be missing a critical nutrient and probiotic > base in your diet. > > I just want this list to be conscious of the difference between > MonSatan Milk and Raw/Organic Milk/Dairy. > > Thank you, > Andrew > > On Feb 24, 2010, at 10:03 PM, Loni wrote: > >> We are the only mammal that drinks milk beyond infancy. Many NMD's >> believe that we cannot metabolize dairy correctly. Dr. Mark Hyman >> "Ultra Mind Solution" made himself well from being very sick by >> cutting out Dairy & Gluten. I know when I do eat dairy I develop >> mucus. Not right. >> >> I'm giving it a try. Loni >> >> --- On Wed, 2/24/10, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote: >> >> >> From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> >> Subject: Re: [eSens] dairy vs. organic raw dairy >> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com >> Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 8:44 AM >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> If you haven't tried RO dairy products, please do before lumping it >>> together with a dairy comment. >> >> For what it's worth, I find both types of dairy products extremely >> fattening... :-) >> >> (and that milk sold by Andrew's brother is very tasty!) >> >> Marc >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail. yahoo.com >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> ------------ --------- --------- ------ >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > |
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Loni,
Rich Anderson, author of Cleanse & Purify Thyself says that we can produce B12 in the gut when it is no longer lined with mucoid plaque, (undigested protein etc.) Need to do a bit of cleansing to achieve this though. Helen (Oz) On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:03 AM, Loni <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Andrew, > > Thanks for the info. I didn't know that about B12. I have been buying the > injectable methylcobalamine & it is expensive. I am on probiotic so > hopefully I'll start making some of it with this GF/dairy free diet. > > What do you think of the premise that we are the only mammals that consume > dairy after infancy suggesting that we shouldn't be???? Loni > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]<amcafeerr%40nc.rr.com>> > wrote: > > From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email] <amcafeerr%40nc.rr.com>> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] dairy vs. organic raw dairy > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com> > Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 7:55 AM > > > > > Yes, NON organic, Pasteurized and otherwise treated milk common to the > supermarket WILL cause flem and digestion problems, cancer from the > hormones, bacterial infections, and on and on. Tuberculosis and other > bad bugs can survive the pasteurization/ heating process and will > thrive in milk because the good bacteria has been killed. Antibiotics > have encouraged superbugs and BGH (bovine growth hormones) by our > lovely Monsanto :( causes all kinds of health problems. Pesticides and > other toxins sprayed on the alfalfa and genetically modified corn/soy/ > grains feed to the cows wreaks havoc with our DNA. > > I do NOT suggest having these milk or dairy products or any processed > food/cheese product. > > I do recommend RAW and ORGANIC dairy. I especially like goat milk > because it encourages a more alkaline system response. > > There are a number of different societal cultures around the world (at > least in Mongolia and Africa) that live primarily on milk products and > they are perfectly healthy. They often get immediately sick when they > eat a western diet of processed and contaminated food. > > Most every major society has a cultured food that is an essential part > to healthy probiotic gut and often it is milk based (kefir, yogurt, > cottage cheese, etc.) > > Without enough good bacteria in your gut, you can't produce enough > B12 to give yourself a bright, sunny disposition. The bacteria > actually produces it. > > I think the issue is more related to the crap that is done to milk, > not the milk itself. > > Sure, milk is maybe not for everyone so don't drink/eat dairy if you > don't want to. But make sure you know the difference between the > products because you may be missing a critical nutrient and probiotic > base in your diet. > > I just want this list to be conscious of the difference between > MonSatan Milk and Raw/Organic Milk/Dairy. > > Thank you, > Andrew > > On Feb 24, 2010, at 10:03 PM, Loni wrote: > > > We are the only mammal that drinks milk beyond infancy. Many NMD's > > believe that we cannot metabolize dairy correctly. Dr. Mark Hyman > > "Ultra Mind Solution" made himself well from being very sick by > > cutting out Dairy & Gluten. I know when I do eat dairy I develop > > mucus. Not right. > > > > I'm giving it a try. Loni > > > > --- On Wed, 2/24/10, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote: > > > > > > From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] dairy vs. organic raw dairy > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 8:44 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> If you haven't tried RO dairy products, please do before lumping it > >> together with a dairy comment. > > > > For what it's worth, I find both types of dairy products extremely > > fattening... :-) > > > > (and that milk sold by Andrew's brother is very tasty!) > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail. yahoo.com > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- Helen A Murphy Environomics.com.au 0448 877 384 03 9372 3217 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Mercola says that Magnesium Stearate creates a biofilm in the gut and
prevents absorption and creates a haven for bad bugs. Mag Stearate is in almost every vitamin supplement. You have to look hard to find products without it but they are out there. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/04/17/Why-Taking-Supplements-Could-be-Hazardous-to-Your-Health.aspx Andrew On Feb 28, 2010, at 5:29 AM, Helen Murphy wrote: > Loni, > > Rich Anderson, author of Cleanse & Purify Thyself says that we can > produce > B12 in the gut when it is no longer lined with mucoid plaque, > (undigested > protein etc.) Need to do a bit of cleansing to achieve this though. > > Helen (Oz) > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:03 AM, Loni <[hidden email]> wrote: > > |
Thanks for posting this; I'm going to read it. I've heard that mag. stearate isn't good before, but had not heard specifics why. And me, with possible gut issues!
I do try finding supps without it, but you're right; it's ubiquitous. Unfortunately, even with supplements in gelatin capsules (which you can open and empty), the stearate's not a part of the capsule, as far as I know, but mixed within the supplement as a lubricant to help it slide into the capsule...or so the health food store told me. R. --- On Sun, 2/28/10, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] gut lining - Magnesium Stearate bad To: [hidden email] Received: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 3:50 PM Mercola says that Magnesium Stearate creates a biofilm in the gut and prevents absorption and creates a haven for bad bugs. Mag Stearate is in almost every vitamin supplement. You have to look hard to find products without it but they are out there. http://articles. mercola.com/ sites/articles/ archive/2009/ 04/17/Why- Taking-Supplemen ts-Could- be-Hazardous- to-Your-Health. aspx Andrew On Feb 28, 2010, at 5:29 AM, Helen Murphy wrote: > Loni, > > Rich Anderson, author of Cleanse & Purify Thyself says that we can > produce > B12 in the gut when it is no longer lined with mucoid plaque, > (undigested > protein etc.) Need to do a bit of cleansing to achieve this though. > > Helen (Oz) > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:03 AM, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote: > > __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Helen: That's a great point. Didn't realize. Thanks, Loni
--- On Sun, 2/28/10, Helen Murphy <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Helen Murphy <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] dairy vs. organic raw dairy To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 3:29 AM Loni, Rich Anderson, author of Cleanse & Purify Thyself says that we can produce B12 in the gut when it is no longer lined with mucoid plaque, (undigested protein etc.) Need to do a bit of cleansing to achieve this though. Helen (Oz) On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:03 AM, Loni <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Andrew, > > Thanks for the info. I didn't know that about B12. I have been buying the > injectable methylcobalamine & it is expensive. I am on probiotic so > hopefully I'll start making some of it with this GF/dairy free diet. > > What do you think of the premise that we are the only mammals that consume > dairy after infancy suggesting that we shouldn't be???? Loni > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]<amcafeerr%40nc.rr.com>> > wrote: > > From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email] <amcafeerr%40nc.rr.com>> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] dairy vs. organic raw dairy > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com> > Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 7:55 AM > > > > > Yes, NON organic, Pasteurized and otherwise treated milk common to the > supermarket WILL cause flem and digestion problems, cancer from the > hormones, bacterial infections, and on and on. Tuberculosis and other > bad bugs can survive the pasteurization/ heating process and will > thrive in milk because the good bacteria has been killed. Antibiotics > have encouraged superbugs and BGH (bovine growth hormones) by our > lovely Monsanto :( causes all kinds of health problems. Pesticides and > other toxins sprayed on the alfalfa and genetically modified corn/soy/ > grains feed to the cows wreaks havoc with our DNA. > > I do NOT suggest having these milk or dairy products or any processed > food/cheese product. > > I do recommend RAW and ORGANIC dairy. I especially like goat milk > because it encourages a more alkaline system response. > > There are a number of different societal cultures around the world (at > least in Mongolia and Africa) that live primarily on milk products and > they are perfectly healthy. They often get immediately sick when they > eat a western diet of processed and contaminated food. > > Most every major society has a cultured food that is an essential part > to healthy probiotic gut and often it is milk based (kefir, yogurt, > cottage cheese, etc.) > > Without enough good bacteria in your gut, you can't produce enough > B12 to give yourself a bright, sunny disposition. The bacteria > actually produces it. > > I think the issue is more related to the crap that is done to milk, > not the milk itself. > > Sure, milk is maybe not for everyone so don't drink/eat dairy if you > don't want to. But make sure you know the difference between the > products because you may be missing a critical nutrient and probiotic > base in your diet. > > I just want this list to be conscious of the difference between > MonSatan Milk and Raw/Organic Milk/Dairy. > > Thank you, > Andrew > > On Feb 24, 2010, at 10:03 PM, Loni wrote: > > > We are the only mammal that drinks milk beyond infancy. Many NMD's > > believe that we cannot metabolize dairy correctly. Dr. Mark Hyman > > "Ultra Mind Solution" made himself well from being very sick by > > cutting out Dairy & Gluten. I know when I do eat dairy I develop > > mucus. Not right. > > > > I'm giving it a try. Loni > > > > --- On Wed, 2/24/10, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote: > > > > > > From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] dairy vs. organic raw dairy > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > > Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 8:44 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> If you haven't tried RO dairy products, please do before lumping it > >> together with a dairy comment. > > > > For what it's worth, I find both types of dairy products extremely > > fattening... :-) > > > > (and that milk sold by Andrew's brother is very tasty!) > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail. yahoo.com > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- Helen A Murphy Environomics.com.au 0448 877 384 03 9372 3217 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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