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carazzz
My husband has been having a flu-like reaction, apparently to raw milk and colostrum for
several days now, but following his intuition he has continued to drink thestuff and very little
else. Then, last night he drank some whey protein at our naturopath's recommendation, to
prepare for a root canal extraction next week. His reaction to the whey protein was a striking
contrast to his reaction to the colostrum. He describes the difference as good sick vs bad
sick, good pain vs. bad pain. Before he was feeling "regular pain" like someone might who
had the flu, and incidentally has slept better in the last few nights than he had in a very long
time, perhaps years. But when he drank the whey protein, he actually felt the chemical
reaction that the colostrum was promoting in his body stopped cold. His blood once again
feels "burning/stinging" (my word is "poisoned") the way it has throughoutmost of his long
illness. He was too ill and miserable to sleep at all last night.

We don't think our doctors ever mean any harm, but this is why we have learned to be
skeptical of dietary and other expert medical advice. My husband says he sensed his body
rejecting the whey protein before he even took it, but his concern about next week's dental
procedure overruled his intuition in this case. So, the moral of the story,I guess, is to trust
our own bodies over the so-called experts. We'll be going back to a mostly raw milk and
colostrum fast (which was began inadvertently, by the way) and see how thatgoes. We do feel
that some important ground was lost last night, which is frustrating.

Cara

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RE: colostrum update (bad reaction to whey protein)

Ian Kemp
I think what this shows, again, is that we are all individuals and that we
can all have individual reactions. I know that whey protein has helped a
good number of people. On the other hand, others don't get on with it at
all (I think Sue had an adverse reaction).



"Experts" are OK as long as they, and we, recognize that general principles
may be overruled for a particular person's metabolism. In the case of
deep-seated chronic illness, it seems to me that too many doctors and
nutritionists have been happy to peddle the drugs, supplements or herbs that
help 90-95% of people, without doing tests to see whether the patient's
problems have a more deep-rooted underlying cause. It always seemed
illogical to me to blame Sue's health problems on diet and to say she should
take lots of extra supplements, when she had always eaten very healthily -
more so than most people, including me!



I guess the parallel I would suggest is - if a fuse in your car keeps
blowing, you don't just keep replacing it by thicker and thicker fuses (like
high-dose supplements) - you try to find out the short-circuit that makes it
blow in the first place. Unfortunately we are even more complex than cars
when it comes to trying to trace problems!



Ian



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My husband has been having a flu-like reaction, apparently to raw milk and
colostrum for
several days now, but following his intuition he has continued to drink the
stuff and very little
else. Then, last night he drank some whey protein at our naturopath's
recommendation, to
prepare for a root canal extraction next week. His reaction to the whey
protein was a striking
contrast to his reaction to the colostrum. He describes the difference as
good sick vs bad
sick, good pain vs. bad pain. Before he was feeling "regular pain" like
someone might who
had the flu, and incidentally has slept better in the last few nights than
he had in a very long
time, perhaps years. But when he drank the whey protein, he actually felt
the chemical
reaction that the colostrum was promoting in his body stopped cold. His
blood once again
feels "burning/stinging" (my word is "poisoned") the way it has throughout
most of his long
illness. He was too ill and miserable to sleep at all last night.

We don't think our doctors ever mean any harm, but this is why we have
learned to be
skeptical of dietary and other expert medical advice. My husband says he
sensed his body
rejecting the whey protein before he even took it, but his concern about
next week's dental
procedure overruled his intuition in this case. So, the moral of the story,
I guess, is to trust
our own bodies over the so-called experts. We'll be going back to a mostly
raw milk and
colostrum fast (which was began inadvertently, by the way) and see how that
goes. We do feel
that some important ground was lost last night, which is frustrating.

Cara






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Re: colostrum update (bad reaction to whey protein)

Marc Martin
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> We don't think our doctors ever mean any harm, but this is why we have
> learned to be skeptical of dietary and other expert medical advice.
> My husband says he sensed his body rejecting the whey protein before he
> even took it

This is pretty much the reason I abandoned doctors that use
standard treatment protocols for their patients. They may work most
of the time, but they certainly weren't working for me! I had much
better luck going to doctors who performed supplement compatibility
testing prior to giving it to me. This can be in the form of
muscle testing, EAV testing, and I'm sure there are a variety
of other variations and names for it. Although this has proven
itself to work a lot better for me, it still is not perfect, and
I have occasionally still had a bad reaction to something that was
energetically tested as being good for me. The most recent occurance
I can think of was a few months ago, when I was tested well for
some high-strength B-Vitamins, but after taking them I developed
horrible allergies which stopped shortly after stopping the vitamins.

By the way, I learned something new the other day on the subject
of muscle testing. One of the first things a practioner should
test for is whether or not you are testable. They often refer
to someone who is untestable as being "switched". Being switched
is a bad thing, and basically a person is never going to recover
from any illness until they can overcome this first hurdle.

What I learned was an easy way to test if you are currently
switched. Standing up, stick your right arm out straight in
front of you. Rotate you hand so that your thumb is pointing
downwards and your palms are facing outward away from you.
Place your left hand over your right hand, and try to pull
down your right arm with your left hand, while your right
arm tries to resist being pulled down. If you right arm
is able to resist, you are okay. If your right arm is weak,
then you are switched.

I have been doing this testing on myself for the past couple
days around EMF sources. Before I use my hair dryer, I test
strong, afterwards, I test weak. If I use a Springlife OM
pendant next to my hairdryer, I stay strong before & after.
Same thing with the TV -- fine before I turn it on, weak
immediately after its turned on. If I place a polarizer on
the TV and a Quantum Companion next to me, I test strong the
whole time the TV is on.

Usually practioners find supplements to "unswitch" people,
but for people with ES, EMF protection devices can work
as well.

Marc

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Re: colostrum update (bad reaction to whey protein)

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Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: What I learned was an easy way to test if you are currently
switched. Standing up, stick your right arm out straight in
front of you. Rotate you hand so that your thumb is pointing
downwards and your palms are facing outward away from you.
Place your left hand over your right hand, and try to pull
down your right arm with your left hand, while your right
arm tries to resist being pulled down. If you right arm
is able to resist, you are okay. If your right arm is weak,
then you are switched.


Yes maybe a year ago there was a yoga group in town and they where jokingly demonstrating this same test with eachother. They would all go weak with a cellphone against their heart!

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Re: colostrum update (bad reaction to whey protein)

snoshoe_2
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That sounds like the kind of reaction I get when exposed to
pesticides and herbicides in food. Like in nonorganic coffee for
example, if it's been accidentally put in the wrong bulk bin.  
Neurotoxins is what they are, and they will cause a burning or
tingling. Don't know if that's it, but I'd bet the whey was not
organic, or may have chemicals that are not in the colostrum you were
using.

~ Snoshoe

--- In [hidden email], "Cara" <cara_evangelista@h...> wrote:
>
> My husband has been having a flu-like reaction, apparently to raw
milk and colostrum for
> several days now, but following his intuition he has continued to
drink the stuff and very little
> else. Then, last night he drank some whey protein at our
naturopath's recommendation, to
> prepare for a root canal extraction next week. His reaction to the
whey protein was a striking
> contrast to his reaction to the colostrum. He describes the
difference as good sick vs bad
> sick, good pain vs. bad pain. Before he was feeling "regular pain"
like someone might who
> had the flu, and incidentally has slept better in the last few
nights than he had in a very long
> time, perhaps years. But when he drank the whey protein, he
actually felt the chemical
> reaction that the colostrum was promoting in his body stopped cold.
His blood once again
> feels "burning/stinging" (my word is "poisoned") the way it has
throughout most of his long
> illness. He was too ill and miserable to sleep at all last night.
>
> We don't think our doctors ever mean any harm, but this is why we
have learned to be
> skeptical of dietary and other expert medical advice. My husband
says he sensed his body
> rejecting the whey protein before he even took it, but his concern
about next week's dental
> procedure overruled his intuition in this case. So, the moral of
the story, I guess, is to trust
> our own bodies over the so-called experts. We'll be going back to a
mostly raw milk and
> colostrum fast (which was began inadvertently, by the way) and see
how that goes. We do feel
> that some important ground was lost last night, which is
frustrating.
>
> Cara
>