Hi Charles:
Thanks for your note. Briefly, the challenge to which I alluded was largely related to frequency response, not only for EMF, but particulalry for magnetic fields and electric fields, and specifically, the lack of full and meaningful broaband frequency response in most meters on the market. This does not mean that they are "bad" meters, but rather it simply means that they can, in reality, only display a portion of the actual EMF, magnetic and electrical fields present. And, then there is the issue of also needing to measure ionizing radiation (i.e., alpha, beta, gamma, etc.) if one wants a complete picture, if one is interested in that part of the spectrum as well! And, as we all know, there are no meters yet which can accurately measure and display subtle energies, aka "scalar" energies, aka non-Hertzian fields or non-classical fields, and yet such fields are considered by many experts to be the primary fields present in geopathic stress zones, and area also considered by many experts to be even present as the most harmful component of most incident EMF. with care, --Vinny At 09:40 AM 9/4/2006, you wrote: >Hello Vinny, > >I disagree with you here. > >A Trifieldmeter is a very rough meter, not suitable for building biological >surveys. >Especially the Standard baubiologische Messtechnik 2003. >(To meet those requirements, a special trifield meter was developed) > >However, I do posses several meters, which can just do that, and can detect >even very small amounts of radiation of elektrosmog, which persons may harm. > >Greetings, >Charles Claessens >member Verband Baubiologie >www.milieuziektes.nl >www.milieuziektes.be >www.hetbitje.nl >checked by Norton Antivirus > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Vinny Pinto" <[hidden email]> >To: <[hidden email]> >Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 15:28 >Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: coherent space website > > > > Hi Jean and folks: > > > > And, it might be worthwhile at this point to reiterate what I have > > written before: the fact of the matter is that no so-called EMF > > meter, even if it is billed as a trifield meter or portable EMF > > survey spectrum analyzer, can realy measure more than a tiny > > percentage of the manmade EM fields, magnetic fields, and electrical > > fields present in an environment. This is not due to some kind of > > conspiracy, nor is it due to deception or penny-pinching on the part > > of the manufacturers and vendors, but rather due to the incredible > > engineering feat it would take to sense and measure acurately even > > 60% of such fields, particularly in a portable meter, and, if it > > could be done, such a meter would, of necessity, likely cost upwards > > of $90,000 and would likely weight six pounds! > > > > with care, > > --Vinny > > > > At 08:49 AM 9/4/2006, you wrote: > >>--- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote: > >>... > >> > > >> > But mark, electrosensibles may react starting at levels if 1 uW/m2; > >>some > >> > even at 0,1 uW/m2. > >> > When they encounter 100 uW/m2, life is hell for them. > >> > And recovery of illnesses is nearly impossible. > >> > >> > >>I agree with that. I have a spectran (I know it's not that reliable). > >>And I ended up to the conclusion that as long as it is higher than > >>1uW/m2 this is a problem for me, and better if it is below 0.5uW/m2. > >>20 to 40 uW/m2 is already a difficult area for me. > >> > >>I want to move out of this place, but not possible at the moment. And > >>then there are so many places with EMF smog nowadays, it's getting > >>difficult. > >> > >>Also I read the post about memory problems. It rings a bell. > >> > >>jean. > > > > Vinny Pinto [hidden email] phone 301-694-1249 To see my informational websites and e-mail list groups, please go to: http://www.vinnypinto.us |
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Marc,
I don't know a thing about those other things you mentioned...ALA, etc. I have never heard of any of them. I just know that I had no negative effects from the Cilantro, (liquid cilantro made up by my Homeopathic physican), eggs an Chorella. I am known for my phenomanil memory, so I don't think I have any mercury in me affecting that. After I see the results of my blood test for heavy metals, I might consider something else if there is still a mercury problem. Thanks for the information. Phylliciah Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: > Some people in other groups that I subscribe to would say never to use > the chorella because it has only one thiol and two are need to remove > the mercury from the body. Chorella is something that typically does give me a bad reaction, although NDF (which contains chlorella) seems okay if I'm very careful not to take too much. > They also say not to use cilantro because they don't know how it > works That's kind of silly reason -- I think there are many things in the world that "we don't know how it works", but neverless they work, which is good enough for me. > It definitely did a lot for me but it doesn't compare to taking ALA. If > the mercury has impared your brain functioning like memory and the > ability to recall and find the right words you want then ALA is the way > to go. from what I've read in the past, ALA is simply an mercury mobilizer. That is, it doesn't bind to mercury and guarantee elimination from the body. Is that your understanding as well? If this is the case, then it would have to be combined with something to get the mercury out of the body (chlorella, algin, pectin, etc.). My favorite binder of mercury is Mega-H, although there seems to be little to no supporting research that it actually binds and removes mercury from the body (it's just my impression that it does!) If ALA does indeed bind and eliminate mercury from the body (and not simply mobilizes it into the bloodstream), then somebody please confirm that for me, and I'll purchase a bottle! Marc --------------------------------- All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hello Vinny,
if you take the trouble in reading the SBM2003 (there is even an english version on my website), you could see, that all fields are measured, including radioactivity (mostly gamma rays), radon gas, formaldehyde, etc. So let us first concentrate on what is measurable. Nowadays I also measure radio and television waves, with special antennas, and determine *hotspots* inside houses. Nobody can measure *skalar* waves. Subtle energies like underground water flows are very small energies, which are often exaggerated in effect. The static magnetic fields in metals parts in beds, are measurable, and do have a much higher impact on people. By avoiding those, many symptoms disappear. Despite water flows. Many therapists speak about *geopathic stress*. But that is the only chapter in their book for the widespread elektrosmog. Their *geopathic stress* should be called *elektrosmog*. Many people with a divining rod cannot make a difference between alternating electrical- or magnetic fields, between static electrical- or magnetic fields and the electromagnetic fields. That is a big mouth full of elektrosmog. A DECT phone or a wireless internet modem is much more devastating than an earth beam. So first things first. And the tiny parts of elektrosmog are also much more devastating. A 9V battery may have en enormous impact on certain people. A mobile phone in your pocket may have an enormous impact on a person within 2 meters. Those are the dangers we are confronted with everyday. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vinny Pinto" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 16:13 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: coherent space website > Hi Charles: > > Thanks for your note. Briefly, the challenge to which I alluded was > largely related to frequency response, not only for EMF, but > particulalry for magnetic fields and electric fields, and > specifically, the lack of full and meaningful broaband frequency > response in most meters on the market. This does not mean that they > are "bad" meters, but rather it simply means that they can, in > reality, only display a portion of the actual EMF, magnetic and > electrical fields present. And, then there is the issue of also > needing to measure ionizing radiation (i.e., alpha, beta, gamma, > etc.) if one wants a complete picture, if one is interested in that > part of the spectrum as well! > > And, as we all know, there are no meters yet which can accurately > measure and display subtle energies, aka "scalar" energies, aka > non-Hertzian fields or non-classical fields, and yet such fields are > considered by many experts to be the primary fields present in > geopathic stress zones, and area also considered by many experts to > be even present as the most harmful component of most incident EMF. > > with care, > --Vinny > > At 09:40 AM 9/4/2006, you wrote: >>Hello Vinny, >> >>I disagree with you here. >> >>A Trifieldmeter is a very rough meter, not suitable for building >>biological >>surveys. >>Especially the Standard baubiologische Messtechnik 2003. >>(To meet those requirements, a special trifield meter was developed) >> >>However, I do posses several meters, which can just do that, and can >>detect >>even very small amounts of radiation of elektrosmog, which persons may >>harm. >> >>Greetings, >>Charles Claessens >>member Verband Baubiologie >>www.milieuziektes.nl >>www.milieuziektes.be >>www.hetbitje.nl >>checked by Norton Antivirus >> >> |
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Ho, ho, not so fast.
It is not the mercury that has an effect on your phenominal memory. It is the elektrosmog, that thanks to the mercury attacks your brains, and that is the reason why your memory is going down the drain. Not the memory of the past, but the short-term memory of the present. You are sitting in a chair, and want to get a glass of milk from the kitchen. You stand up, but when you are halfway through the room, you are forgotten what you wanted to do in the kitchen. But you remember everything from you youth. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phyllicia Hutchinson" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 16:24 Subject: Re: [eSens] mercury, cilantro, chlorella, ALA > Marc, > > I don't know a thing about those other things you mentioned...ALA, etc. > I have never heard of any of them. I just know that I had no negative > effects from the Cilantro, (liquid cilantro made up by my Homeopathic > physican), eggs an Chorella. I am known for my phenomanil memory, so I > don't think I have any mercury in me affecting that. > > After I see the results of my blood test for heavy metals, I might > consider something else if there is still a mercury problem. Thanks for > the information. > Phylliciah > |
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--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
> Marc, This is a follow up to my last note to you. denom asked if ALA referred to alpha lipoic acid. If that is what it means, then, I am familiar with it. I do take that from time to time. However, I don't take any supplements unless I muscle check them first. What works for me one day may not check strong the next. Sometimes it is just because I have already had all that I need of that particular supplement at that particular time. Alpha Lipoc Acid has not checked strong for me in quite a while. Please explain other abbreviations that you used in your note to me, because I am not familiar with them. Thanks, Phyllicia P.S. I do not, as a rule, listen to the food Natzis or "They say," I listen to my own inner guidance for what is right for me. I find that is much more reliable for me. Even my acupuncturist says I am not wired like most people she works on. I respect everyone's right to choose for themselves. When I tell what has worked for me, in any area, I expect others to see if that speaks to them. That is what I do whenever anyone says what has worked or not worked for them. I have never wanted to be a Guru or have any followers. For example: I have only had one person that the D battery on the TV didn't work for. I quickly realized that the traditions of her religious affliation caused her to be spooked by information about energy fields in and around the human body, even though I explained the Science behind what I was doing. The whole concept switched her off. Therefore, I quickly dismissed the whole thing by saying, "Well this obviously isn't something that works for you." She was visably relieved that we didn't continue it. [hidden email] > > Some people in other groups that I subscribe to would say never to use > > the chorella because it has only one thiol and two are need to remove > > the mercury from the body. > > Chorella is something that typically does give me a bad reaction, > although NDF (which contains chlorella) seems okay if I'm very > careful not to take too much. > > > They also say not to use cilantro because they don't know how it > > works > > That's kind of silly reason -- I think there are many things > in the world that "we don't know how it works", but neverless > they work, which is good enough for me. > > It definitely did a lot for me but it doesn't compare to taking > > the mercury has impared your brain functioning like memory and the > > ability to recall and find the right words you want then ALA is the way > > to go. > > From what I've read in the past, ALA is simply an mercury mobilizer. > That is, it doesn't bind to mercury and guarantee elimination from > the body. Is that your understanding as well? If this is the case, > then it would have to be combined with something to get the mercury > out of the body (chlorella, algin, pectin, etc.). My favorite > binder of mercury is Mega-H, although there seems to be little > to no supporting research that it actually binds and removes > mercury from the body (it's just my impression that it does!) > > If ALA does indeed bind and eliminate mercury from the body (and > not simply mobilizes it into the bloodstream), then somebody > please confirm that for me, and I'll purchase a bottle! > > Marc > |
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> This is a follow up to my last note to you. denom asked if ALA > referred to alpha lipoic acid. Yes, that is what I meant -- alpha lipoic acid. It appears that people subscribed to the frequent dose chelation group believe that ALA will form a strong attachment with mercury and remove it from the body. However, it appears that every other article I've read on the Internet says that this is not true -- that it merely liberates mercury from your cells, then something else will have to do the job of removing it from the body. > Please explain other abbreviations that you used in your note to me, > because I am not familiar with them. NDF stands for Nanocolloidal Detox Factors, and is a liquid supplement containing chlorella and cilantro, and is used to help remove heavy metals from the body: http://www.purehealthsystems.com/ndf-moreinfo.html > However, I don't take any supplements unless I muscle check them first. Yes, I am generally the same way, although on most days, it is more or less the same group of supplements that test well, and seems to mostly consist of fatty acids and probiotics. > For example: I have only had one person that the D battery on > the TV didn't work for. I just muscle tested myself with a D battery on top of my 17" CRT computer monitor. I tested weak with the monitor by itself. I tested weak with the monitor plus the D battery. I tested strong with the Quantum Companion. This may however be due to my own personal bias, so I'd have to actually try the D battery and see if I notice any difference. Marc |
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Charles,
Thanks for the input. However, my phenomenal memory happens to include my short term memory as well as my long term memory. I recently discovered why I have such a memory. Without realizing it until recently, I still learn as a child does, that is, I have this automatic tendency to repeat things over and over in my mind. This is how a child learns. Apparently Inever outgrew this way of learning. It has always served me well, so I think I will continue it. Occasionally, my memory for names starts to slip. I believe this is biological or chemical in nature. Whenever this happens I take Bacopa and that fixes it in two or three days. Phyllicia [hidden email] charles <[hidden email]> wrote: Ho, ho, not so fast. It is not the mercury that has an effect on your phenominal memory. It is the elektrosmog, that thanks to the mercury attacks your brains, and that is the reason why your memory is going down the drain. Not the memory of the past, but the short-term memory of the present. You are sitting in a chair, and want to get a glass of milk from the kitchen. You stand up, but when you are halfway through the room, you are forgotten what you wanted to do in the kitchen. But you remember everything from you youth. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phyllicia Hutchinson" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 16:24 Subject: Re: [eSens] mercury, cilantro, chlorella, ALA > Marc, > > I don't know a thing about those other things you mentioned...ALA, etc. > I have never heard of any of them. I just know that I had no negative > effects from the Cilantro, (liquid cilantro made up by my Homeopathic > physican), eggs an Chorella. I am known for my phenomanil memory, so I > don't think I have any mercury in me affecting that. > > After I see the results of my blood test for heavy metals, I might > consider something else if there is still a mercury problem. Thanks for > the information. > Phylliciah > --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Oh, Phyllicia, one more abbreviation I used was "Mega-H".
This is an antioxidant that I've found very helpful when feeling the effects of mercury mobilization symptoms (metallic mouth, headache, fatigue). I take a little Mega-H powder in a glass of water and feel better almost immediately. Note that this product has several variations and names in the marketplace, including Microhydrin, Active H-, Megahydrin, Megahydrate, and Ultimate Mega-H. The manufacturer's website doesn't seem to be working properly right now, so here is a link from someone who sells it: http://healthequip-store.stores.yahoo.net/mipl.html Marc |
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You have to realize that mercury poisoning/toxicity does not present
with the same set of symptoms on two different people. So while one may have memory dysfunction another may have heart murmurs and yet another may have a GI disorder. Mercury is a very aggressive element and it binds with virtually any organic tissue it comes in contact with. One main way nutrients are transported within the body from the GI tract is through the circulatory system. The result is that where ever there is increased bloodflow (through usage or injury) that is the more likely place for the toxins (in this case mercury) to accumulate. In the case for mercury poisoning there are a myriad of symptoms many of which mimic other diseases. For this reason, physicians have difficulty in diagnosing mercury poisoning. They often follow the protocols for diagnosing based on the symptoms without considering testing for mercury toxicity. Generally among physicians, it is considered a rare condition these days. Ligure Phyllicia Hutchinson wrote: > > Marc, > > I don't know a thing about those other things you mentioned... ALA, > etc. I have never heard of any of them. I just know that I had no > negative effects from the Cilantro, (liquid cilantro made up by my > Homeopathic physican), eggs an Chorella. I am known for my phenomanil > memory, so I don't think I have any mercury in me affecting that. > > After I see the results of my blood test for heavy metals, I might > consider something else if there is still a mercury problem. Thanks > for the information. > Phylliciah > > Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com <mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com>> wrote: > > Some people in other groups that I subscribe to would say never to use > > the chorella because it has only one thiol and two are need to remove > > the mercury from the body. > > Chorella is something that typically does give me a bad reaction, > although NDF (which contains chlorella) seems okay if I'm very > careful not to take too much. > > > They also say not to use cilantro because they don't know how it > > works > > That's kind of silly reason -- I think there are many things > in the world that "we don't know how it works", but neverless > they work, which is good enough for me. > > It definitely did a lot for me but it doesn't compare to taking ALA. If > > the mercury has impared your brain functioning like memory and the > > ability to recall and find the right words you want then ALA is the way > > to go. > > From what I've read in the past, ALA is simply an mercury mobilizer. > That is, it doesn't bind to mercury and guarantee elimination from > the body. Is that your understanding as well? If this is the case, > then it would have to be combined with something to get the mercury > out of the body (chlorella, algin, pectin, etc.). My favorite > binder of mercury is Mega-H, although there seems to be little > to no supporting research that it actually binds and removes > mercury from the body (it's just my impression that it does!) > > If ALA does indeed bind and eliminate mercury from the body (and > not simply mobilizes it into the bloodstream) , then somebody > please confirm that for me, and I'll purchase a bottle! > > Marc > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things > done faster. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > |
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Hi Vinny,
I understand your answer. You mean there might be more than just the field caused by the phone mast I can measure with the spectran. For example I think things got a bit worse when they installed metal bareer on the roof, cause it's mandatory now. And I live on the last floor, so there's metal rods all over the roof. Plus reflection, etc, even electrical wires in the walls might be like antenna. jean. --- In [hidden email], Vinny Pinto <vinny@...> wrote: > > Hi Jean and folks: > > And, it might be worthwhile at this point to reiterate what I have > written before: the fact of the matter is that no so-called EMF > meter, even if it is billed as a trifield meter or portable EMF > survey spectrum analyzer, can realy measure more than a tiny > percentage of the manmade EM fields, magnetic fields, and electrical > fields present in an environment. This is not due to some kind of > conspiracy, nor is it due to deception or penny-pinching on the part > of the manufacturers and vendors, but rather due to the incredible > engineering feat it would take to sense and measure acurately even > 60% of such fields, particularly in a portable meter, and, if it > could be done, such a meter would, of necessity, likely cost upwards > of $90,000 and would likely weight six pounds! > > with care, > --Vinny > > At 08:49 AM 9/4/2006, you wrote: > >--- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@> wrote: > >... > > > > > > But mark, electrosensibles may react starting at levels if 1 > >some > > > even at 0,1 uW/m2. > > > When they encounter 100 uW/m2, life is hell for them. > > > And recovery of illnesses is nearly impossible. > > > > > >I agree with that. I have a spectran (I know it's not that reliable). > >And I ended up to the conclusion that as long as it is higher than > >1uW/m2 this is a problem for me, and better if it is below 0.5uW/m2. > >20 to 40 uW/m2 is already a difficult area for me. > > > >I want to move out of this place, but not possible at the moment. And > >then there are so many places with EMF smog nowadays, it's getting > >difficult. > > > >Also I read the post about memory problems. It rings a bell. > > > >jean. > > > Vinny Pinto > vinny@... > > phone 301-694-1249 > > To see my informational websites and e-mail list groups, please go > http://www.vinnypinto.us > |
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That could explain why when I was still mercury toxic and had not done any chelation yet at all and had such a lousy memory I noticed that when I tookone of those Clarius clocks and placed on a certain spot on my body that my memory would improve.
----- Original Message ----- From: charles To: [hidden email] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] mercury, cilantro, chlorella, ALA Ho, ho, not so fast. It is not the mercury that has an effect on your phenominal memory. It is the elektrosmog, that thanks to the mercury attacks your brains, and that is the reason why your memory is going down the drain. Not the memory of the past, but the short-term memory of the present. You are sitting in a chair, and want to get a glass of milk from the kitchen. You stand up, but when you are halfway through the room, you are forgotten what you wanted to do in the kitchen. But you remember everything from you youth. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phyllicia Hutchinson" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 16:24 Subject: Re: [eSens] mercury, cilantro, chlorella, ALA > Marc, > > I don't know a thing about those other things you mentioned...ALA, etc. > I have never heard of any of them. I just know that I had no negative > effects from the Cilantro, (liquid cilantro made up by my Homeopathic > physican), eggs an Chorella. I am known for my phenomanil memory, so I > don't think I have any mercury in me affecting that. > > After I see the results of my blood test for heavy metals, I might > consider something else if there is still a mercury problem. Thanks for > the information. > Phylliciah > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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You know that is what they say in that frequent dose chelation group. However, they do also recommend DMPS or DMSA to mop up the mercury. In my own case I know I would get really bad symptoms when doing rounds until I started using clays at the same time as doing a round and also during the week when not doing a round. In no time at all I had no symptoms anymore when doing a round. At least not nearly as severe as before. It could be it tooksomething like the clay to completely remove it from the body.
----- Original Message ----- From: Marc Martin To: [hidden email] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: mercury, cilantro, chlorella, ALA phylliciah wrote: > This is a follow up to my last note to you. denom asked if ALA > referred to alpha lipoic acid. Yes, that is what I meant -- alpha lipoic acid. It appears that people subscribed to the frequent dose chelation group believe that ALA will form a strong attachment with mercury and remove it from the body. However, it appears that every other article I've read on the Internet says that this is not true -- that it merely liberates mercury from your cells, then something else will have to do the job of removing it from the body. > Please explain other abbreviations that you used in your note to me, > because I am not familiar with them. NDF stands for Nanocolloidal Detox Factors, and is a liquid supplement containing chlorella and cilantro, and is used to help remove heavy metals from the body: http://www.purehealthsystems.com/ndf-moreinfo.html > However, I don't take any supplements unless I muscle check them first. Yes, I am generally the same way, although on most days, it is more or less the same group of supplements that test well, and seems to mostly consist of fatty acids and probiotics. > For example: I have only had one person that the D battery on > the TV didn't work for. I just muscle tested myself with a D battery on top of my 17" CRT computer monitor. I tested weak with the monitor by itself. I tested weak with the monitor plus the D battery. I tested strong with the Quantum Companion. This may however be due to my own personal bias, so I'd have to actually try the D battery and see if I notice any difference. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
What kind of clay, how much, how often?
Andrew On Sep 4, 2006, at 9:19 PM, denom wrote: > You know that is what they say in that frequent dose chelation group. > However, they do also recommend DMPS or DMSA to mop up the mercury. > In my own case I know I would get really bad symptoms when doing > rounds until I started using clays at the same time as doing a round > and also during the week when not doing a round. In no time at all I > had no symptoms anymore when doing a round. At least not nearly as > severe as before. It could be it took something like the clay to > completely remove it from the body. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Marc Martin > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 10:11 AM > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: mercury, cilantro, chlorella, ALA > > > phylliciah wrote: >> This is a follow up to my last note to you. denom asked if ALA >> referred to alpha lipoic acid. > > Yes, that is what I meant -- alpha lipoic acid. It appears that > people subscribed to the frequent dose chelation group believe > that ALA will form a strong attachment with mercury and remove > it from the body. However, it appears that every other article > I've read on the Internet says that this is not true -- that > it merely liberates mercury from your cells, then something > else will have to do the job of removing it from the body. > >> Please explain other abbreviations that you used in your note to me, >> because I am not familiar with them. > > NDF stands for Nanocolloidal Detox Factors, and is a liquid > supplement > containing chlorella and cilantro, and is used to help remove heavy > metals from the body: > > http://www.purehealthsystems.com/ndf-moreinfo.html > >> However, I don't take any supplements unless I muscle check them >> first. > > Yes, I am generally the same way, although on most days, it is > more or less the same group of supplements that test well, and > seems to mostly consist of fatty acids and probiotics. > >> For example: I have only had one person that the D battery on >> the TV didn't work for. > > I just muscle tested myself with a D battery on top of my 17" > CRT computer monitor. I tested weak with the monitor by itself. > I tested weak with the monitor plus the D battery. I tested > strong with the Quantum Companion. This may however be due to > my own personal bias, so I'd have to actually try the D battery > and see if I notice any difference. > > Marc > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > |
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Marc,
Thanks for the explanation of your abbreviations. It is much appreciated. I haven't heard about any of these things except the Alpha Lipoic Acid. I will check into them in the near future. Best regards, Phyllicia Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: Oh, Phyllicia, one more abbreviation I used was "Mega-H". This is an antioxidant that I've found very helpful when feeling the effects of mercury mobilization symptoms (metallic mouth, headache, fatigue). I take a little Mega-H powder in a glass of water and feel better almost immediately. Note that this product has several variations and names in the marketplace, including Microhydrin, Active H-, Megahydrin, Megahydrate, and Ultimate Mega-H. The manufacturer's website doesn't seem to be working properly right now, so here is a link from someone who sells it: http://healthequip-store.stores.yahoo.net/mipl.html Marc --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Marc, Then you make two! Smile! I do know that belief and intention has a lot to do with it. However, the D battery has worked for some unbelievers also. But Hey, different strokes for different folks, as "they" say! Thanks for the input. Phyllicia http://www.purehealthsystems.com/ndf-moreinfo.html > However, I don't take any supplements unless I muscle check them first. Yes, I am generally the same way, although on most days, it is more or less the same group of supplements that test well, and seems to mostly consist of fatty acids and probiotics. > For example: I have only had one person that the D battery on > the TV didn't work for. I just muscle tested myself with a D battery on top of my 17" CRT computer monitor. I tested weak with the monitor by itself. I tested weak with the monitor plus the D battery. I tested strong with the Quantum Companion. This may however be due to my own personal bias, so I'd have to actually try the D battery and see if I notice any difference. Marc --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi Marc:
I had promised over a week ago to answer your letter more in detail once I managed to steal some time away from my latest project in the lab, and that time has finally arrived (in fact, I even found time the other day to go up in a small helicopter to pull a crazy death-defying stunt in order to finish a project for an extreme adventure sport that I pursue), and so, here goes... Comments inserted interlined below... At 10:40 AM 8/30/2006, you wrote: > > 2) any effects noted due to removal of some or most of the harmful > > effects of EMF should be rather similar to the effects noted from > > moving to an extremely remote forested area which is very far removed > > from the AC power grid and from the vast majority of radio and TV > > transmitting towers and cellular and microwave towers. > >Yes, that certainly would be nice. All of the EMF protection devices >I've ever tried seem to add their own unique energy to the environment, >which is quite different from going to "the middle of nowhere". Yes, and the reality seems to be that NO area treatment device can fully yield this full effect, simply because to do so would probably mean managing to somehow ELIMINATE all EMF fields, magnetic fields and electric fields from ALL manmade sources from the local environment, and as we all know, even a good room-sized Faraday cage cannot do that! >However, in your description of your coherent space devices, I believe >that you said that the devices take incoherent radiation and turn >it into coherent radiation? Yes, to some extent this is true, but is not that the devices turn incoherent Hertzian EMF singals (or electric fields, or magnetic fields) into coherent fields (and the reality is that many Hertzian EMF signals from manmade devices are quite coherent in the first place), but rather that such devices, working on a quantum level (some would say "subtle energy level") somehow smoothe chaotic noise and "jangling" signals created on the quantum level by many manmade devices and systems (including the AC power grid....). So, it is not the classical Hertzian EMF signal itself, nor the classical Hertzian electric field or magnetic field itself which is being cohered by such devices, but rather a kind of incohrent noise created on the quantum level by such Hertzian fields emitted by manmade sources. And gee, if it were true that such quantum smoothing devices COULD actually cohere classical Hertzian EMF signals, well, then I would be rich and famous overnite, as such a device should be able to turn the incoherent white light from an inexpensive incandescent light bulb into a coherent laser beam! This would save humankind a lot of the money spent in building lasers and particularly high-powered lasers! But no, none of the quantum smoothing devices claim to cohere the classical Hertzian component of EMF signals, but rather a quantum "subspace" component. Some cutting-edge physicists invoke superstring theory and spin theory, along with quantum mechanics, at about this point, and talk a bit vaguely about such devices smoothing or cleaning up the "spin" of certain subatomic particles which supposedly accompany Hertzian EMF waves in the "ether". >So if I'm sitting in front of a 21" CRT >monitor with it's elevated radiation levels, I'm now going to be >exposed to elevated levels of coherent radiation, correct? No. See above. >That seems >like it would be a much different experience than being in the >middle of nowhere, which would have minimal levels of incoherent >radiation. Please see above. But yes, you are correct in intuiting that none of thes quantum coherence devices (whether my technology or other brands and models) actually remove the classical Hertzian EMF fields nor electric nor magnetic fields. Of course, even a large Faraday cage cannot completely remove such things, although they can sure lower the levels of many such classical Hertzian fields by a very large magnitude. I will shortly contact you of-list, as I am have some spare devices at this moment of the passive (non-DC-powered) limited area treatment (about 14 to 18 feet) devices (I think the model number is AUTO-21), and I would be happy to send you one as a loaner test device to allow you to play with it for a month or two before returning it. In fact, if you wish me to do that, please feel free to send me, via private email, your shipping address; will likely ship by UPS Ground! You seem to be quite sensitive -- it will be interesting to see how you (and your cats!) react to it, and, of course, you are welcome to share your reports of effects -- whether positive or negative -- on the list group or wherever you wish. with care, --Vinny Vinny Pinto [hidden email] phone 301-694-1249 To see my informational websites and e-mail list groups, please go to: http://www.vinnypinto.us |
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> thes quantum coherence devices (whether my technology or other brands > and models) actually remove the classical Hertzian EMF fields nor > electric nor magnetic fields. Of course, even a large Faraday cage > cannot completely remove such things, although they can sure lower > the levels of many such classical Hertzian fields by a very large magnitude. Thanks for the clarifications, Vinny. I suspect than in my own personal case, all of my adverse reactions from being exposed to EMF are really due to interactions between the EMF and the toxins in my body. The Quantum devices certainly increase my tolerance for high EMF environments, but it's still not the same thing as being in the middle of nowhere. > I will shortly contact you of-list, as I am have some spare devices > at this moment of the passive (non-DC-powered) limited area treatment > (about 14 to 18 feet) devices (I think the model number is AUTO-21), > and I would be happy to send you one as a loaner test device to allow > you to play with it for a month or two before returning it. Great, thanks! It seems like ages since I've played with a new EMF protection device... :-) Marc |
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Hi Marc:
I had promised over a week ago to answer your letter more in detail once I managed to steal some time away from my latest project in the lab, and that time has finally arrived (in fact, I even found time the other day to go up in a small helicopter to pull a crazy death-defying stunt in order to finish a project for an extreme adventure sport that I pursue), and so, here goes... Comments inserted interlined below... At 10:40 AM 8/30/2006, you wrote: > > 2) any effects noted due to removal of some or most of the harmful > > effects of EMF should be rather similar to the effects noted from > > moving to an extremely remote forested area which is very far removed > > from the AC power grid and from the vast majority of radio and TV > > transmitting towers and cellular and microwave towers. > >Yes, that certainly would be nice. All of the EMF protection devices >I've ever tried seem to add their own unique energy to the environment, >which is quite different from going to "the middle of nowhere". Yes, and the reality seems to be that NO area treatment device can fully yield this full effect, simply because to do so would probably mean managing to somehow ELIMINATE all EMF fields, magnetic fields and electric fields from ALL manmade sources from the local environment, and as we all know, even a good room-sized Faraday cage cannot do that! >However, in your description of your coherent space devices, I believe >that you said that the devices take incoherent radiation and turn >it into coherent radiation? Yes, to some extent this is true, but is not that the devices turn incoherent Hertzian EMF singals (or electric fields, or magnetic fields) into coherent fields (and the reality is that many Hertzian EMF signals from manmade devices are quite coherent in the first place), but rather that such devices, working on a quantum level (some would say "subtle energy level") somehow smoothe chaotic noise and "jangling" signals created on the quantum level by many manmade devices and systems (including the AC power grid....). So, it is not the classical Hertzian EMF signal itself, nor the classical Hertzian electric field or magnetic field itself which is being cohered by such devices, but rather a kind of incohrent noise created on the quantum level by such Hertzian fields emitted by manmade sources. And gee, if it were true that such quantum smoothing devices COULD actually cohere classical Hertzian EMF signals, well, then I would be rich and famous overnite, as such a device should be able to turn the incoherent white light from an inexpensive incandescent light bulb into a coherent laser beam! This would save humankind a lot of the money spent in building lasers and particularly high-powered lasers! But no, none of the quantum smoothing devices claim to cohere the classical Hertzian component of EMF signals, but rather a quantum "subspace" component. Some cutting-edge physicists invoke superstring theory and spin theory, along with quantum mechanics, at about this point, and talk a bit vaguely about such devices smoothing or cleaning up the "spin" of certain subatomic particles which supposedly accompany Hertzian EMF waves in the "ether". >So if I'm sitting in front of a 21" CRT >monitor with it's elevated radiation levels, I'm now going to be >exposed to elevated levels of coherent radiation, correct? No. See above. >That seems >like it would be a much different experience than being in the >middle of nowhere, which would have minimal levels of incoherent >radiation. Please see above. But yes, you are correct in intuiting that none of thes quantum coherence devices (whether my technology or other brands and models) actually remove the classical Hertzian EMF fields nor electric nor magnetic fields. Of course, even a large Faraday cage cannot completely remove such things, although they can sure lower the levels of many such classical Hertzian fields by a very large magnitude. I will shortly contact you of-list, as I am have some spare devices at this moment of the passive (non-DC-powered) limited area treatment (about 14 to 18 feet) devices (I think the model number is AUTO-21), and I would be happy to send you one as a loaner test device to allow you to play with it for a month or two before returning it. In fact, if you wish me to do that, please feel free to send me, via private email, your shipping address; will likely ship by UPS Ground! You seem to be quite sensitive -- it will be interesting to see how you (and your cats!) react to it, and, of course, you are welcome to share your reports of effects -- whether positive or negative -- on the list group or wherever you wish. with care, --Vinny Vinny Pinto [hidden email] phone 301-694-1249 To see my informational websites and e-mail list groups, please go to: http://www.vinnypinto.us |
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