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Yes, x-rays are harmful. However, there are times when they are
needed. A jaw cavitation needs to be cleaned out and you have to know where it is. My dentist has me wear a lead shield that covers my body when he x-rays. What about the Cavitat? I only remember the name. Is that some kind of radiation, too? Are those the 2 options? Regards, Shivani [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> Yes, x-rays are harmful. However, there are times when they are
> needed. Also note that some dentists are using the newer "low radiation" X-Rays, which are supposed to have 90% less radiation than usual. This may be the same thing as "digital X-Rays". I've had both these and the normal kind in the past few years, but again, like I said before, I noticed nothing. Marc |
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Shivani, I found the info below at http://www.dentalhelp.org/index.cfm?
fuseaction=readscan. It explains a little about Cavitat machines, e.g. that it uses sound waves rather than radiation. (We are looking into this ourselves, although in my husband's case a root canal is the most urgent dental issue. Cavitations will be dealt with afterwards.) ~ Cara -- CAVITAT Generation 4 Ultrasonograph The Cavitat is used to image jawbone necrosis (blood dead bone). It uses sound waves similar to an ultrasound fetal scan to show the interior (marrow) of a persons jawbone. The major difference between the Cavitat and a fetal scan is that the Cavitat sends sound waves through the bone to a receiver on the inside of the jaw, between the tongue and gum. It then displays a 3-dimensional, color image about a half an inch square on a computer screen. This is repeated 32 times or once for each tooth site. A normal scan only takes about 20-30 minutes and is relatively painless. The use of sound waves is far safer and more effective than radiology (x-rays). Repeated scans will not harm the body and are recommended on a regular basis to ascertain the ongoing health of your jawbone. The Cavitat scan does not show the teeth but shows the bone that the tooth root resides in. The quality of the bone marrow affects the health of the tooth. Lots of dental restorative work on dead teeth can be avoided by getting a scan first. It doesn't make a lot of sense to spend thousands of dollars on restoring dead teeth when the bone beneath them is infected and dying. The toxins produced from dead and decaying (gangrenous) bone can do great bodily harm. --- In [hidden email], SArjuna@a... wrote: > What about the Cavitat? I only remember the name. Is that some > kind of radiation, too? > > Regards, > Shivani > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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The dentist we will be going to for the treatment actually has a Cavitat.
However, when we talked it through with him, he wasn't sure that it would be free from side-effects for someone with ES. It is ultrasound rather than radiation, but this is generated as an ultra-high-frequency vibration against the bone for several minutes. That was worryingly similar to the Oberon system that triggered Sue's ES in the first place (although in a quite different frequency range), and of course her major manifestation is as tinnitus which again raises question marks. In the absence of any definite data on whether the Cavitat could affect an ES sufferer, he preferred to err on the side of caution and not use it, which I think shows a very proper concern for safety. Ian _____ From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Cara Sent: 17 November 2005 20:28 To: [hidden email] Subject: [eSens] Re: cavitation diagnostics Shivani, I found the info below at http://www.dentalhelp.org/index.cfm? fuseaction=readscan. It explains a little about Cavitat machines, e.g. that it uses sound waves rather than radiation. (We are looking into this ourselves, although in my husband's case a root canal is the most urgent dental issue. Cavitations will be dealt with afterwards.) ~ Cara -- CAVITAT Generation 4 Ultrasonograph The Cavitat is used to image jawbone necrosis (blood dead bone). It uses sound waves similar to an ultrasound fetal scan to show the interior (marrow) of a persons jawbone. The major difference between the Cavitat and a fetal scan is that the Cavitat sends sound waves through the bone to a receiver on the inside of the jaw, between the tongue and gum. It then displays a 3-dimensional, color image about a half an inch square on a computer screen. This is repeated 32 times or once for each tooth site. A normal scan only takes about 20-30 minutes and is relatively painless. The use of sound waves is far safer and more effective than radiology (x-rays). Repeated scans will not harm the body and are recommended on a regular basis to ascertain the ongoing health of your jawbone. The Cavitat scan does not show the teeth but shows the bone that the tooth root resides in. The quality of the bone marrow affects the health of the tooth. Lots of dental restorative work on dead teeth can be avoided by getting a scan first. It doesn't make a lot of sense to spend thousands of dollars on restoring dead teeth when the bone beneath them is infected and dying. The toxins produced from dead and decaying (gangrenous) bone can do great bodily harm. --- In [hidden email], SArjuna@a... wrote: > What about the Cavitat? I only remember the name. Is that some > kind of radiation, too? > > Regards, > Shivani > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > SPONSORED LINKS Health <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Health+and+wellness&w1=Health+and+welln ess&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness+program&w4=Health+prom otion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business+health+welln ess&c=6&s=187&.sig=lYI8B8UF6O4ROok_KpWbMQ> and wellness Health <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Health+wellness+product&w1=Health+and+w ellness&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness+program&w4=Health+ promotion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business+health+w ellness&c=6&s=187&.sig=7FG7KpKu_ab8sI-sfGXbBw> wellness product Health <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Health+and+wellness+program&w1=Health+a nd+wellness&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness+program&w4=Hea lth+promotion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business+heal th+wellness&c=6&s=187&.sig=SdRoxwZKC3KlEgk4EdZDpQ> and wellness program Health <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Health+promotion+and+wellness&w1=Health +and+wellness&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness+program&w4=H ealth+promotion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business+he alth+wellness&c=6&s=187&.sig=2N5rUTc4fwFZmwqyTa-mLw> promotion and wellness Health <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w1=Health +and+wellness&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness+program&w4=H ealth+promotion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business+he alth+wellness&c=6&s=187&.sig=TWFLmBa9J_P4FmW0xiOmnw> and wellness promotion Business <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Business+health+wellness&w1=Health+and+ wellness&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness+program&w4=Health +promotion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business+health+ wellness&c=6&s=187&.sig=cq8JlfksEGFMRzKQ0DoSOA> health wellness _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "eSens <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Ian, can you say more about how your dentist plans to find Sue's cavitations without a
Cavitat? I assume there are tradeoffs. Thanks. Cara --- In [hidden email], "Ian Kemp" <ianandsue.kemp@u...> wrote: > > The dentist we will be going to for the treatment actually has a Cavitat. > However, when we talked it through with him, he wasn't sure that it wouldbe > free from side-effects for someone with ES. It is ultrasound rather than > radiation, but this is generated as an ultra-high-frequency vibration > against the bone for several minutes. That was worryingly similar to the > Oberon system that triggered Sue's ES in the first place (although in a > quite different frequency range), and of course her major manifestation is > as tinnitus which again raises question marks. In the absence of any > definite data on whether the Cavitat could affect an ES sufferer, he > preferred to err on the side of caution and not use it, which I think shows > a very proper concern for safety. > > > > Ian > > |
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Cara
Yes, you are absolutely right, there are considerable tradeoffs. Because we didn't want to risk the Cavitat, nor even a panoramic X-ray if there was in fact no strong evidence, the dentist suggested doing some local exploratory surgery. Sue's four wisdom teeth sites are the suspected problem area (she had them all extracted together 6 years ago) and he looked at the lower left jaw site, which was giving most symptoms. If healthy regrown bone and tissue had been found, nothing further would have been needed, but if there was a small cavity, the intention was to do a biopsy to see if there were signs of infection. However, he found a large unhealed cavity which he felt was so blatant that no biopsy was necessary (although in retrospect it might have been useful, to find out exactly which bacteria were present). It would be possible to do similar exploratory surgery on the other 3 sites but, as a local anaesthetic is needed each time and Sue has reacted badly to it, a single panoramic X-ray seems a less damaging way of comparing how the four suspect sites look, now that we have pretty firm evidence that there seems to be at least one cavitation. Ian _____ From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Cara Sent: 18 November 2005 02:01 To: [hidden email] Subject: [eSens] Re: cavitation diagnostics Ian, can you say more about how your dentist plans to find Sue's cavitations without a Cavitat? I assume there are tradeoffs. Thanks. Cara --- In [hidden email], "Ian Kemp" <ianandsue.kemp@u...> wrote: > > The dentist we will be going to for the treatment actually has a Cavitat. > However, when we talked it through with him, he wasn't sure that it would be > free from side-effects for someone with ES. It is ultrasound rather than > radiation, but this is generated as an ultra-high-frequency vibration > against the bone for several minutes. That was worryingly similar to the > Oberon system that triggered Sue's ES in the first place (although in a > quite different frequency range), and of course her major manifestation is > as tinnitus which again raises question marks. In the absence of any > definite data on whether the Cavitat could affect an ES sufferer, he > preferred to err on the side of caution and not use it, which I think shows > a very proper concern for safety. > > > > Ian > > SPONSORED LINKS Health <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Health+and+wellness&w1=Health+and+welln ess&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness+program&w4=Health+prom otion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business+health+welln ess&c=6&s=187&.sig=lYI8B8UF6O4ROok_KpWbMQ> and wellness Health <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Health+wellness+product&w1=Health+and+w ellness&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness+program&w4=Health+ promotion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business+health+w ellness&c=6&s=187&.sig=7FG7KpKu_ab8sI-sfGXbBw> wellness product Health <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Health+and+wellness+program&w1=Health+a nd+wellness&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness+program&w4=Hea lth+promotion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business+heal th+wellness&c=6&s=187&.sig=SdRoxwZKC3KlEgk4EdZDpQ> and wellness program Health <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Health+promotion+and+wellness&w1=Health +and+wellness&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness+program&w4=H ealth+promotion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business+he alth+wellness&c=6&s=187&.sig=2N5rUTc4fwFZmwqyTa-mLw> promotion and wellness Health <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w1=Health +and+wellness&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness+program&w4=H ealth+promotion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business+he alth+wellness&c=6&s=187&.sig=TWFLmBa9J_P4FmW0xiOmnw> and wellness promotion Business <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Business+health+wellness&w1=Health+and+ wellness&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness+program&w4=Health +promotion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business+health+ wellness&c=6&s=187&.sig=cq8JlfksEGFMRzKQ0DoSOA> health wellness _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "eSens <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Thank you, Ian and Sue. More questions:
1. What symptoms was Sue experiencing at that site that made you and your dentist suspect cavitation? 2. From your message it sounds as if all wisdom tooth sites were exhibitingsymptoms of cavitation; will your dentist be exploring/treating only the most troublesome site, or all four? 3. What sort of treatment protocol will your dentist be using? (e.g. Huggins?) Cara --- In [hidden email], "Ian Kemp" <ianandsue.kemp@u...> wrote: > > Cara > > Yes, you are absolutely right, there are considerable tradeoffs. Becausewe > didn't want to risk the Cavitat, nor even a panoramic X-ray if there was in > fact no strong evidence, the dentist suggested doing some local exploratory > surgery. Sue's four wisdom teeth sites are the suspected problem area (she > had them all extracted together 6 years ago) and he looked at the lower left > jaw site, which was giving most symptoms. If healthy regrown bone and > tissue had been found, nothing further would have been needed, but if there > was a small cavity, the intention was to do a biopsy to see if there were > signs of infection. However, he found a large unhealed cavity which he felt > was so blatant that no biopsy was necessary (although in retrospect it might > have been useful, to find out exactly which bacteria were present). > > > > It would be possible to do similar exploratory surgery on the other 3 sites > but, as a local anaesthetic is needed each time and Sue has reacted badlyto > it, a single panoramic X-ray seems a less damaging way of comparing how the > four suspect sites look, now that we have pretty firm evidence that there > seems to be at least one cavitation. > > > > Ian > > > > _____ > > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Cara > Sent: 18 November 2005 02:01 > To: [hidden email] > Subject: [eSens] Re: cavitation diagnostics > > > > Ian, can you say more about how your dentist plans to find Sue's cavitations > without a > Cavitat? I assume there are tradeoffs. Thanks. > > Cara > > --- In [hidden email], "Ian Kemp" <ianandsue.kemp@u...> wrote: > > > > The dentist we will be going to for the treatment actually has a Cavitat. > > However, when we talked it through with him, he wasn't sure that it would > be > > free from side-effects for someone with ES. It is ultrasound rather than > > radiation, but this is generated as an ultra-high-frequency vibration > > against the bone for several minutes. That was worryingly similar to the > > Oberon system that triggered Sue's ES in the first place (although in a > > quite different frequency range), and of course her major manifestationis > > as tinnitus which again raises question marks. In the absence of any > > definite data on whether the Cavitat could affect an ES sufferer, he > > preferred to err on the side of caution and not use it, which I think > shows > > a very proper concern for safety. > > > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > Health > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Health+and+wellness&w1=Health+and > ess&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness+program&w4=Health +prom > otion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business+health +welln > ess&c=6&s=187&.sig=lYI8B8UF6O4ROok_KpWbMQ> and wellness > > Health > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Health+wellness+product&w1=Health+and +w > ellness&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness +program&w4=Health+ > promotion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business+health +w > ellness&c=6&s=187&.sig=7FG7KpKu_ab8sI-sfGXbBw> wellness product > > Health > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Health+and+wellness+program&w1=Health +a > nd+wellness&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness +program&w4=Hea > lth+promotion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business +heal > th+wellness&c=6&s=187&.sig=SdRoxwZKC3KlEgk4EdZDpQ> and wellness program > > > Health > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Health+promotion+and +wellness&w1=Health > +and+wellness&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness +program&w4=H > ealth+promotion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business +he > alth+wellness&c=6&s=187&.sig=2N5rUTc4fwFZmwqyTa-mLw> promotion and wellness > > > Health > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Health+and+wellness +promotion&w1=Health > +and+wellness&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness +program&w4=H > ealth+promotion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business +he > alth+wellness&c=6&s=187&.sig=TWFLmBa9J_P4FmW0xiOmnw> and wellness promotion > > > Business > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Business+health+wellness&w1=Health+and + > wellness&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness +program&w4=Health > +promotion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business +health+ > wellness&c=6&s=187&.sig=cq8JlfksEGFMRzKQ0DoSOA> health wellness > > > > _____ > > YAHOO! 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