amalgams

My wife was told to replace her amalgams because of metal toxicity. Is there a down side to this procedure and is it worth it. She suffers from mcs, es and metal sensitvity. Mike



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> My wife was told to replace her amalgams because of metal toxicity. Is
> there a down side to this procedure and is it worth it. She suffers from
> mcs, es and metal sensitivity. Mike

Any attempt to get better does carry some risks. For example, I've heard
from more than one person that their ES began after having their amalgams
removed! That said, I think the potential benefits outweigh the potential
risks, although one might want to try to improve liver function,
adrenal function, etc. prior to doing this.

I would suggest that you find a dentist who attempts to minimize mercury
exposure during the removals -- rubber dam, alternate air source for
breathing, water-cooled drill, etc. I think it's also best to go slow --
remove only a couple (max) at each appointment, and have an adequate
interval between appointment to "recover" from the previous appointment
(as no matter how many precautions you take, there will be some
mercury exposure). Also a good idea would be to take an effective
antioxidant after the appointment, or some charcoal. And before
the appointment, you should verify that the antioxidant actually
helps, and figure out what level of tolerance you have for taking
any supplement (max dosage without bad side effects).

Heck, I even changed clothes and took a shower after my appointments,
but I suspect that is overkill... :-)

Marc

> I would suggest that you find a dentist who attempts to minimize mercury
> exposure during the removals -- rubber dam, alternate air source for
> breathing, water-cooled drill, etc.

Oh, and if possible, you should have the amalgam removal done by a
holistic or biological dentist. These types of dentists realize
that some of their clients are super-sensitive, and for folks with
ES they may be willing to turn off the overhead florescent lights,
or a nearby computer monitor...

Marc

This is excellent advice Marc

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From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] amalgams
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, 19 November, 2008, 8:07 PM






> I would suggest that you find a dentist who attempts to minimize mercury
> exposure during the removals -- rubber dam, alternate air source for
> breathing, water-cooled drill, etc.

Oh, and if possible, you should have the amalgam removal done by a
holistic or biological dentist. These types of dentists realize
that some of their clients are super-sensitive, and for folks with
ES they may be willing to turn off the overhead florescent lights,
or a nearby computer monitor...

Marc
 














     

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One other point (covered elsewhere in the archives as well) - please make
sure you are taking a suitable protocol of supplements, infusions etc to
metabolise and neutralise any mercury released and absorbed - before, during
and after the treatment. Amalgam removal is actually one of the commonest
triggers for ES (as shown by the Swedish epidemiological study Black on
White), so by implication if not properly done it is likely to give worse
problems for those with ES already. If at any stage you feel uncomfortable
or that the rubber dam is not fully in place, tell the dentist to STOP at
once!

Ian

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Stephanie Smith
Sent: 22 November 2008 23:49
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [eSens] amalgams



This is excellent advice Marc

--- On Wed, 19/11/08, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries.
<mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com> com> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. <mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com> com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] amalgams
To: eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com
Date: Wednesday, 19 November, 2008, 8:07 PM

> I would suggest that you find a dentist who attempts to minimize mercury
> exposure during the removals -- rubber dam, alternate air source for
> breathing, water-cooled drill, etc.

Oh, and if possible, you should have the amalgam removal done by a
holistic or biological dentist. These types of dentists realize
that some of their clients are super-sensitive, and for folks with
ES they may be willing to turn off the overhead florescent lights,
or a nearby computer monitor...

Marc


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Ian--What would you sugggest as suitable protocol of supplements or infusions to neutralize mercury? Mike

Ian Kemp <[hidden email]> wrote: One other point (covered elsewhere in the archives as well) - please make
sure you are taking a suitable protocol of supplements, infusions etc to
metabolise and neutralise any mercury released and absorbed - before, during
and after the treatment. Amalgam removal is actually one of the commonest
triggers for ES (as shown by the Swedish epidemiological study Black on
White), so by implication if not properly done it is likely to give worse
problems for those with ES already. If at any stage you feel uncomfortable
or that the rubber dam is not fully in place, tell the dentist to STOP at
once!

Ian

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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Stephanie Smith
Sent: 22 November 2008 23:49
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [eSens] amalgams

This is excellent advice Marc

--- On Wed, 19/11/08, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries.
<mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com> com> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. <mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com> com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] amalgams
To: eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com
Date: Wednesday, 19 November, 2008, 8:07 PM

> I would suggest that you find a dentist who attempts to minimize mercury
> exposure during the removals -- rubber dam, alternate air source for
> breathing, water-cooled drill, etc.

Oh, and if possible, you should have the amalgam removal done by a
holistic or biological dentist. These types of dentists realize
that some of their clients are super-sensitive, and for folks with
ES they may be willing to turn off the overhead florescent lights,
or a nearby computer monitor...

Marc

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--- In [hidden email], angela england <mariaaengland@...>
wrote:
>
> Ian--What would you sugggest as suitable protocol of supplements or
infusions to neutralize mercury? Mike
>

Hi

I'm interested too ...
I planned to eliminate any mercury but I still have some doubts.

Giorgio
> Ian Kemp <ianandsue.kemp@...> wrote: One other point
(covered elsewhere in the archives as well) - please make
> sure you are taking a suitable protocol of supplements, infusions
etc to
> metabolise and neutralise any mercury released and absorbed -
before, during
> and after the treatment. Amalgam removal is actually one of the
commonest
> triggers for ES (as shown by the Swedish epidemiological study
Black on
> White), so by implication if not properly done it is likely to give
worse
> problems for those with ES already. If at any stage you feel
uncomfortable
> or that the rubber dam is not fully in place, tell the dentist to
STOP at
> once!
>
> Ian
>
> _____
>
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On
Behalf Of com>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] amalgams
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com
> Date: Wednesday, 19 November, 2008, 8:07 PM
>
> > I would suggest that you find a dentist who attempts to minimize
mercury
> > exposure during the removals -- rubber dam, alternate air source
for

Hi,
regarding mercury in amalgam-fillings: I personally believe that
many are sensitive to EMFs due to a buildup of mercury (and other
heavy metals) in their bodies.
Even if you don't believe this, it is a fact that mercury (Hg) is
one of the worst nerve-poisons out there. If you have a chronic
disease, I wouldn't hesitate removing the fillings. But as many has
pointed out: It has to be done as safely as possible.
This means (minimum requirements):
1)Using a dentist with the experience and equipment to do it as
safely as possible.
2)Taking antioxidants a month before the first dental appointment. A
minimum would be vitamins A, C and E, B-complex and Selenium.
(Continue with these also after removal.)
3)Taking activated charcoal half an hour before the appointment and
24 hours after the appointment (to bind with any amalgam that is
swallowed during removal).

Some people recommend to remove only one filling at each
appointment, and take about 2-4 weeks between each removal.
If you are very sick, you should work with a holistic medical doctor
or a naturopath who could guide you with respect to what supplements
to take etc. (But find a good one! Many say they know (all) about
mercury-toxicity, but don't have a clue.)
If you can find a really good holistic dentist you could get this
kind of guidance from him/her as well.

Good luck,
John O.

--- In [hidden email], "giorgio" <CINCIRIPINI@...> wrote:
>
> --- In [hidden email], angela england <mariaaengland@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Ian--What would you sugggest as suitable protocol of supplements
or infusions
> etc to
> > metabolise and neutralise any mercury released and absorbed -
> before, during
> > and after the treatment. Amalgam removal is actually one of the
> commonest
> > triggers for ES (as shown by the Swedish epidemiological study
> Black on
> > White), so by implication if not properly done it is likely to
give
> worse
> > problems for those with ES already. If at any stage you feel
> uncomfortable
> > or that the rubber dam is not fully in place, tell the dentist
to minimize
> mercury
> > > exposure during the removals -- rubber dam, alternate air
source
> for
> > > breathing, water-cooled drill, etc.
> >
> > Oh, and if possible, you should have the amalgam removal done by
a
> > holistic or biological dentist. These types of dentists realize
> > that some of their clients are super-sensitive, and for folks
with
> > ES they may be willing to turn off the overhead florescent
lights,

> If you are very sick, you should work with a holistic medical doctor
> or a naturopath who could guide you with respect to what supplements
> to take etc. (But find a good one! Many say they know (all) about
> mercury-toxicity, but don't have a clue.)

This is a good point. Most of the holistic doctors I've been to
claim to know how to treat heavy metal poisoning, but in actuality
their knowledge is pretty superficial, and a lot of them use
methods that could cause far more damage than good. So if you
think they are making you worse and offer no good alternatives,
then you're going to have to find another doctor (or do your
own research and figure it out on your own)

Marc

Big question I'm afraid. Several different protocols and approaches have
been suggested by various groups. Typically they include things like Vitamin
C or glutathione as antioxidants or to boost liver function, and chlorella
or activated charcoal to try to absorb mercury and take it out of your body.
I'm sure there's lots more in the group archives, but not sure if there's
any easy way to find it ...

In an ideal world you would be tested before doing anything like mercury
removal, to find out where your system is weak and depleted, and what needs
to be added to boost it. Unfortunately, often this isn't done, partly
because there are a lot of possible tests and many are quite expensive.

My wife had 4 amalgams removed, the rubber dam shifted, her MCS got worse in
a few days, and she became ES a month later. It took 6 months before we
found tests which showed she was severely deficient in the key liver
chemicals glutathione and inorganic sulphate, which are part of the
metabolism for detoxifying. It has taken another 4 years before we found a
genetic profile test which has shown a hereditary problem in these (and a
couple of other liver functions), which would have predicted the likely
problems. But, of course, one doesn't take these obscure tests until the
problem happens and one becomes seriously ill :-(

Ian

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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
angela england
Sent: 24 November 2008 15:12
To: [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [eSens] amalgams



Ian--What would you sugggest as suitable protocol of supplements or
infusions to neutralize mercury? Mike

Ian Kemp <ianandsue.kemp@ <mailto:ianandsue.kemp%40ukgateway.net>
ukgateway.net> wrote: One other point (covered elsewhere in the archives as
well) - please make
sure you are taking a suitable protocol of supplements, infusions etc to
metabolise and neutralise any mercury released and absorbed - before, during
and after the treatment. Amalgam removal is actually one of the commonest
triggers for ES (as shown by the Swedish epidemiological study Black on
White), so by implication if not properly done it is likely to give worse
problems for those with ES already. If at any stage you feel uncomfortable
or that the rubber dam is not fully in place, tell the dentist to STOP at
once!

Ian

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From: eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto:eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com] On Behalf
Of
Stephanie Smith
Sent: 22 November 2008 23:49
To: eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: Re: [eSens] amalgams

This is excellent advice Marc

--- On Wed, 19/11/08, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries.
<mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com> com> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. <mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com> com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] amalgams
To: eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com
Date: Wednesday, 19 November, 2008, 8:07 PM

> I would suggest that you find a dentist who attempts to minimize mercury
> exposure during the removals -- rubber dam, alternate air source for
> breathing, water-cooled drill, etc.

Oh, and if possible, you should have the amalgam removal done by a
holistic or biological dentist. These types of dentists realize
that some of their clients are super-sensitive, and for folks with
ES they may be willing to turn off the overhead florescent lights,
or a nearby computer monitor...

Marc

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It came in the news yesterday how apparently Belgian dentists think about amalgam fillings:
(Subtitled in English > click on CC)

https://youtu.be/649ardvJWvo

As usual what they say is a bit true, but seems incomplete and not great information.
Saying it's harmless is not true.

All, I have an appointment in 5 days to remove one amalgam and replace 2 composites on my right side.
Since I have only a few days prep, what is the best plan to do from now til the removal to keep me as healthy as possible.

(It is a natural dentist with 20 years experience removing Mercury using the SMART method.)

I would like to know if I should take higher/lower or stop any of the following supplements I am taking today:

Vitamin C average 1,200 mg/day
Vegan Algae Omega  1,200 mg/day
Glutathione 500 mg/day
Vit D 5,000 I.U./day
Vitamin E 400 I.U/ day
Selenium 200 mcg/day
Zinc Gluconate 50 mg/day
Dandelion Root 1200 mg/ every 2 days
Osha Root tincture 670 mg 1-2x /day about 3 days per week in a row then stop for 3-4 days...  

I have activated charcoal 520 mg but I have not taken it YET.  Not sure when is best time as it can strip nutrients I need and also can't take near RX or vitamins... It says wait 30 min before meals.

Really getting nervous as I have the one amalgam on the right side, then 2 on the left side that will be scheduled within a week or 2 of the first removal coming up.

Final step will be see their recommended oral surgeon to remove the implant.
The holistic dentist wants me to go right back to them post removal so they can clean and do ozone therapy in that area... Then after 4-6 weeks will have a removable (non-metal) partial made for the implant hole.
:(

They recommend since I have such sensitivity to have a blood test called the Clifford test to check my compatibility against dental materials to make sure they order the partial from a place most safe for my body.  Test is about $300.00 US (and there is also one for orthopedic implant compatibility testing, also $300.00 US)

Wondering if I need more time to detox BEFORE any removal or if I am OK to proceed and then follow a strict protocol to remove the stray toxins after the procedures.

Advice please?  Thanks!!!!

I think the activated charcoal, you gotta start the day before removal, then continue some days after.

I would also add spirulina and dulse to help conduct the mercury out of the body...

I would take just ONE amalgam PER MONTH, not in shorter time.

I would make the test for metal compatibility.

Do you also know that once you put ONE METAL in your mouth ALL THE OTHER metals have to be the same so that you don't create galvanic currents inside your mouth ?

Yes, only one type of metal is ideal.

I would not put an implant, except if on zirkonium because it reacts more like ceramic than metal.

You know that metals function as antennas, and your teeth, each of them, are connected to one organ / meridian.

It's bad idea to have implants with metals as it's like getting electroacupuncture in your teeth 24h/24h/ 365 days a year....

As for stripping nutrients, I would rather strip nutrients AND MERCURY during amalgam removal, than having nutrients intact AND MERCURY inside my body, nerves, gut etc... Just take the charcoal, and separately dulse/ see weed + spirulina, for example several hours from charcoal.

Ozone is great idea.

I haven't done the compatibility test you mention, but my doctor tested EVERY single metal in the alloy (I use partials) through muscle tests.

So far, so good, it's been more than 10 years with these partials...

Wishing you good luck!

Thanks, Jinna!  I have activated charcoal.  
I will make sure to get the spirulina and dulse.  Is dulse and or seaweed in a capsule form or ??

I buy it bulk, much cheaper and better.
Dulse actually tastes good.

Sea weed, you can also buy bulk.
I like eating, making soups with them.

Jinna, do you find that Dulse actually helps you with heavy metals?  I know that the "Medical Medium" says it does, but I'm wondering what the experiences are of people in this group are.  

Marc  

Jinna,

How much Dulse should I consume in quantity, and per day for optimal detox post amalgam removal?
Are you eating dry whole dulse?

Marc, I don't believe you'll actually 'see' the effects of dulse very fast, not if you take in minimal amounts and separately from other mobilizers.

Anthony does not speak in terms of mobilizers, carriers etc. But Klinghardt does.

The way I understand this heavy metal problem is like this:

these heavy metals have a charge that is sticky to certain areas of the body, such as nerves, brain cells. Dr K said that long ago.

It makes sense, because if you get poisoned by mercury, aluminum etc, what you get is that your neurons die or get VERY harmed, and you start to get neuro symptoms (memory, concentration, headaches, nerve pains, body starts to work less, numbness, cold, lack of blood circulation etc).

that's why you need what dr K calls mobilizers, to try to unstick heavy metals from their sticking places.

Cilantro does that, for example.

but once you get these metals loose, you got to carry them off, and you need OTHER substances (dr K was using chlorella for that, Anthony uses spirulina and dulse).

People have been trying to detox these heavy metals for some time, with huge efforts, several protocols, natural, drugs etc, and there had been a war on the right way to do so. Many people have been harmed.

I have tried many different chelation protocols. They NEVER are that simple like take this injection, you'll get rid of heavy metals easily. Even if on paper, this could be so.

You can see that people may feel better fast, other will get more problems, and that the solution is NEVER definitive - probably because we are constantly exposed to heavy metals.

From all the stuff I tried, simply doing that Heavy Metal Detox Smoothie is by far the easiest of all.

Anthony explains this smoothie works by crossing the blood-brain-barrier (not everything we take crosses the BBB), dislodging heavy metals from its attached places (he also explains heavy metals have a charge that make them stick to certain areas of the body), but still, once dislodged,  they need to be taken and transported OUT of the body through stools or urine.

For that ALL, you need all 5 ingredients: wild blueberries, cilantro leaves and stems, barley grass juice powder, Hawaiian spirulina, and dulse.

The dulse only transports the already dislodged / free heavy metals out of the body, through stools if I remember well.

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Since I started eating this HMDS on and off, I rarely needed chlorella, and same with my daughter.

I haven't bought a single box with chlorella ever since I started the HMDS

And I've consumed chlorella by kilograms for 15 years, never left my house without a chlorella box, never traveled without a full box with chlorella.

My symptoms of heavy metal intoxication were clear: strong stomach aches, anxiety, insomnia, breathing problems, extreme fatigue, extreme brain fog.  

My daughter had the same problem and always went to school with a box of chlorella.
Her friends always made jokes with her because she used to take 8-15 pills of chlorella at once in school.

She feared those heavy metal attacks, because of pain, fatigue etc.

Since a year, we started on the HMDS.
Now I practically do not touch chlorella anymore. Daughter neither.

the HMDS released us from our chlorella 'addiction'.
We don't even carry any chlorella around with us, not even in trips!!!

I think the HMDS is working for us, so we keep eating it.
Not daily, about 2, 3 x a week or so.

Plus you feel your brain get a flush of nutrients when you eat this HMDS.
It's very satisfying.

It's not only the dulse, I think, more like the whole combo works pretty well.
 

Jinna, thanks for the smoothie ingredients!  :)
Picking up today so i am ready for the removal of my amalgam tomorrow.

Do you think I should also add celery juice to the rotation daily? or too much to handle?

TY!  

You may start slowly with celery juice.
It cleans, kills, builds stomach acids... but people do react with herxheimer / detox reactions.

Just start slowly, as it takes a few days to see how celery builds its die off / toxins....

Good luck at the dentist!