amalgams and eletrical charges

I just came back from a "safe" dentist (boulder, co) and learned what i thought was happening. i have 5 amalgams, and 1 weird bridge that is made of porcelain and gold, and was "invented" by this dentist in nyc who tried it on me prior to my getting mcs/es
 
anyway, the dentist believes that the interaction of the gold and the silver/mercury are causing probs. suggested taking it all out of course...but what have others found to be safe? i'm also chemically sensitive...
 
and wanted to know if others have gold and silver in their mouths who also have emf sensitivity...
 
thanks
jill
 
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There are 14 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Digest Number 345 - Protocol for Amalgam-Mercury-Silver Filling
Removal
From: Jan Jenson <[hidden email]>
2. Mind-body connection/slippery slope
From: "Cara" <[hidden email]>
3. "Neuronton" to relieve ES symptoms
From: "Glenn Coleman" <[hidden email]>
4. Re: "Neuronton" to relieve ES symptoms
From: "Cara" <[hidden email]>
5. Re: "Neuronton" to relieve ES symptoms
From: "glennhcoleman" <[hidden email]>
6. Re:Graham Stetzer "defensiveness"
From: [hidden email]
7. Re: Re:Graham Stetzer "defensiveness"
From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]>
8. Re: Re:Graham Stetzer "defensiveness"
From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]>
9. Re:Graham Stetzer "defensiveness"
From: "Cara" <[hidden email]>
10. Re: Re:Graham Stetzer "defensiveness"
From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
11. Re: "Neuronton" to relieve ES symptoms
From: "Cara" <[hidden email]>
12. Re: Re:Graham Stetzer "defensiveness"
From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
13. Re: Shivani
From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
14. RE: Panic attacks caused by poor (high chest) breathing!
From: "Benson, Sarah \(Sen L. Allison\)" <[hidden email]>


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Message: 1        
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:28:09 -0500
From: Jan Jenson <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Digest Number 345 - Protocol for Amalgam-Mercury-Silver Filling
Removal


From: Jan Jenson <[hidden email]>


I'm no expert on Mercury, but due to much I have learned, suggest you do
major research before beginning it. I'm sure there are lists for it. This
and definitely amalgam removal can be very dangerous, if not done
correctly/precisely. It partially depends on person's basic health, but
either way, check into the guidelines from those who have been there.
-------

I've had 17 amalgams and2 nickel crowns replaced
and been detoxing from 22 years as a welder ... for more than 5 years now.
I'ts CRITICAL that amalgams are removed safely - and the worst ones first!
Electrodermal screening will help determine which ones are producing the
most offensive "currents" in your body.
I used to hear radios in my head... especially when I was welding... and
none were on around me!
Jan Jenson
The Detox News

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Once the removal has begun, the mercury vapor will be continuously released
from the tooth. During the removal or placement of amalgam the patient can
be exposed to amounts which are a thousand times greater than the EPA
allowable concentration.


Protocol for Amalgam-Mercury-Silver Filling Removal
by the International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology

PATIENT PROTECTION

First in every concerned doctor's mind is the protection of the patient from
additional exposure to mercury. This is especially true of the mercury toxic
patient. The mercury toxic patient may have been exposed to varying amounts
of mercury from diet, environment, employment or from mercury/silver dental
fillings. All forms are cumulative and can contribute to the body burden.
The goal of this preferred procedure is to minimize any additional exposure
of the patient, ourselves, or staff to mercury.

During chewing the patient is exposed to intraoral levels which are several
times the EPA allowable air concentration. 2 During the removal or placement
of amalgam the patient can be exposed to amounts which are a thousand times
greater than the EPA allowable concentration.3 Once the drill touches the
filling temperature increases immediately vaporizing the mercury component
of the alloy. There are 8 steps to greatly reducing everyone's exposure.


* Keep the fillings cool

All removal must be done under cold water spray with copious amounts of
water. Once the removal has begun, the mercury vapor will be continuously
released from the tooth.

* Use a high volume evacuator

Therefore, a high volume evacuator tip should be kept near the tooth (1/2
inch) at all times to evacuate this vapor from the area of the patient.
Polishing amalgam can create very dangerous levels of mercury and should be
avoided especially for the mercury toxic patient.

* Provide an alternative air source

All patients having amalgam removed or placed should be provided with an
alternative air source and instructed to not breathe through their mouth
during treatment. A nasal hood such as is used with the nitrous oxide
analgesia equipment is excellent. Air is best and oxygen is acceptable
although not required. If just air is used it should be clean and free of
mercury vapor preferably from outside the dental office.

* Immediately dispose of the mercury alloy Particles of mercury alloy
should be washed and vacuumed away as soon as they are generated. The
filling should be sectioned and removed in large pieces to reduce exposure.

At present the International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology (IAOMT)
has approved removal both with and without the use of a rubber dam. Some
evidence exist to support both views since high levels of mercury and
amalgam particles can be found under the dam. All members are agreed that
whether or not a rubber dam is used the patient should be instructed to not
breathe through their mouth or swallow the particles. Some experts feel that
it is better to remove the amalgam first and then apply the dam if needed
for restorative procedures.

* Lavage, and change gloves

After the fillings have been removed, take off the rubber dam if one was
used and lavage the patients mouth for at least 30 seconds with cold water
and vacuum. Remove your gloves and replace them with a new pair. If a
restorative procedure is next then reapply a new dam and proceed.

* Immediately clean patient

Immediately change patient's protective wear and clean their face.

* Consider nutritional support

Consider appropriate nutritional support before, during and after removal.

* Keep room air pure

Install room air purifiers or ionizers and fans for everyone's well being.


STAFF PROTECTION

OSHA4 5 requires that employees be given written informed consent before the
use of any toxic chemicals of which mercury is one. Elemental mercury vapor
is one of the most toxic forms of mercury and should not breathed. Women of
child bearing age should be exposed to no more than 10% of the OSHA MAC6.
Women who are pregnant should be exposed to no mercury.7 If you use mercury
or remove mercury in any form the National Institute of Occupational Safety
and Health (NIOSH) has recommended that your employees be medically
monitored annually.

ANY MERCURY EXPOSURE REQUIRES THAT THE EMPLOYEE WEAR AN APPROVED MERCURY
FILTER MASK.

An approved mask is appropriate for wearing during all dental procedures
which will expose you or your staff to mercury.8

The manner in which dentists operate their equipment dramatically affects
the amount of mercury released. Never drill on mercury high dry. It is
hazardous to you, your staff, and your patient. Levels as high as 4000 m
g/M3 have been measured 18" from the drill when used high dry. Levels over
1000 m g/M3 are measurable upon opening an amalgam mixing capsule.

One out of 7 California dental offices tested over the OSHA TWA of 50 m g/M
3 . 100% of the vacuum cleaner exhaust tested over 100 m g/M 3 . Any office
where mercury is used should be tested regularly and staff should be
monitored for exposure. Testing services are available and a mercury sensor
badge is available for personnel monitoring. They should test inside storage
areas and along baseboards where mercury might have dropped. Office spills
can go undetected for years and are extremely hazardous.

REFERENCES


* IAOMT Standards of Care Preferred Procedure Approved 9/27/92

* EPA United States Environmental Protection Agency Office of Health and
Environment Assessment Mercury health effects update Final Report
EPA-600/8-84-019F 1971 EPA

* Cooley RL, Barkmeier WW: Mercury vapor emitted during ultraspeed
cutting of amalgam. J Indiana Dent Assoc 57:28-31, 1978

* OSHA Job Health Series: Mercury.(2234)8/1975

* Hazard Communication Program Federal Register/ Vol. 52. No. 163 /
Monday, August 24, 1987

* OSHA MAC is Threshold Limit Value of 100 micrograms/ cubic meter or 100
PPM This is a never to be exceeded standard.

* Koos BJ and Lango LD , Mercury Toxicity in the pregnant woman, fetus,
and newborn infant. A review Am J Obstetrics and Gynecology 126(3):390-409,
1976

* Mine Safety Association high levels and 3M mercury dust mask lower
levels
     
 
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Message: 2        
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:04:15 -0000
From: "Cara" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Mind-body connection/slippery slope


Hi Katrina,

I appreciate your kind words, and believe me, I appreciate all the
advice I get from this group...hearing from people with similar
medical experiences is invaluable to me. I don't need to describe to
anyone here the frustration and isolation my husband and I felt over
the years. When you warn against the "slippery slope" of
acknowledging a mind-body connection with regard to ES (and MCS, etc.
etc.) I think I understand the danger you mean… But I don't share
stories here with any intent besides the hope that someone else with
a similar problem may learn from our experiences or that someone will
be able to offer insight that may be helpful to me. I am not,
primarily, trying to establish causality, or explain how a particular
remedy relieves a particular symptom, or convince anyone whose
interests in this subject are mainly theoretical. When I speak to our
doctor, I share *much less* than I do with this group because she has
made her biases clear to us, and I cannot afford to waste time or
energy trying to educate her. Plus, like you said, I am aware that,
because of her biases, I may undermine my husband's chance of getting
decent care if I give our doctor any reason to dismiss his health
problems as "mental." It's sad. When we acknowledge the mind-body
connection and explore the ways that the mind can help to heal the
body, I don't think we are talking about something theoretical or
imaginary -- anyone who is truly ill, who suffers every day, has no
time to waste on something that *does not work*. And yet, you're
right, many medical professionals (and lay people!) would happily
latch onto an excuse to dismiss as imaginary any condition that they
themselves do not understand.

Cara






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Message: 3        
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:05:38 -0800
From: "Glenn Coleman" <[hidden email]>
Subject: "Neuronton" to relieve ES symptoms

I met a lady today who has ES, and found she was having great success
reducing symptonms by using Neuronton (a drug normally used for epileptics).

I am curious if anyone on this list has tried this drug.

Glenn



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Message: 4        
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:27:05 -0000
From: "Cara" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: "Neuronton" to relieve ES symptoms


Hi Glenn,

Do you mean Neurontin? My husband tried this arppoximately two years
ago but didn't receive any benefit.

Cara

--- In [hidden email], "Glenn Coleman" <ghcoleman@w...> wrote:
> I met a lady today who has ES, and found she was having great
success
> reducing symptonms by using Neuronton (a drug normally used for
epileptics).
>
> I am curious if anyone on this list has tried this drug.
>
> Glenn





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Message: 5        
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:55:20 -0000
From: "glennhcoleman" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: "Neuronton" to relieve ES symptoms


Yes, I believe it is Neurontin. I wasn't given an exact spelling.

Thanks for the info about your husband's experience.

Glenn

--- In [hidden email], "Cara" <cara_evangelista@h...> wrote:
>
> Hi Glenn,
>
> Do you mean Neurontin? My husband tried this arppoximately two
years
> ago but didn't receive any benefit.
>
> Cara
>
> --- In [hidden email], "Glenn Coleman" <ghcoleman@w...>
wrote:
> > I met a lady today who has ES, and found she was having great
> success
> > reducing symptonms by using Neuronton (a drug normally used for
> epileptics).
> >
> > I am curious if anyone on this list has tried this drug.
> >
> > Glenn





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Message: 6        
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:27:22 EST
From: [hidden email]
Subject: Re:Graham Stetzer "defensiveness"


I am a new member here, and I am one of the people who has recently
written Marc regarding his comments about the Graham Stetzer filters. What the

others said, I have no idea. I object specifically to his saying that the
filters must cause high frequencies, as he feels he has a reaction to them.
It is technically impossible for the Graham Stetzer filters to cause
high frequencies. To say, without proof, that they do is slander. Proof
would
be oscilloscope tracings. If anyone has oscilloscope tracings showing that
the GS filters create frequencies of any sort, please send them ASAP to Dr.
Graham or Dave Stetzer. (I will gladly provide their contact information.)  
Otherwise, please kindly retract this particular statement.
Dave is fed up with the false statements being made about the filters.  
To date, this has been done only by people who have an axe to grind in that
they sell products that do not do anyplace close to the job of helping ES
people that the filters do, or because they represent the utility companieswho
do
not want the public to find out just how many of their health problems are
being caused by the polluted electricity being delivered to their homes.  
Marc's
remarks are not similarly motivated, but that does not make them more
tolerable, nor true.  
I hope that Mark will think about this and take the appropriate action.  
If he wants to take the stand that the filters create RF, he is under the
obligation to prove that this is so. Otherwise, he may be facing a law suit.  

I am guessing that it did not occur to Marc that he had said anything
slanderous, but unfortunately he has.
I myself almost died in 2002, from health problems that turned out to be
caused by electrical pollution - health-damaging high frequencies riding on
the 60Hz from our utility company. If someone had not given me Dave Stetzer's
phone number I literally would not be here to write this letter today. I am
a natural health practitioner, and have become an activist and educator
regarding electrical pollution. I give a workshop to help people remediate
their
own living spaces, and have a book on this "in the works."  
One important point is that the filters can only address the high
frequencies in the circuits they are plugged into. In many cases, however, the

RF has found its way onto water pipes, phone lines, etcetera, and these must be
addressed as well. In our home, we also had high-frequency electrical
fields on doors, woodwork, furniture, walls, in the water of some of our faucets

and showers....  
Dave Stetzer spent hours on the phone teaching me how to find and
remediate our myriad electrical pollution problems. He has devoted his life
to
doing all that he can to provide solutions to the electrical pollution problem.  

Too much of his life, actually, so that he has no time left for a personal
life, and may burn himself out. ES people certainly have no greater friend
and ally than Dave.  
Those interested can read more about electrical pollution and its
solutions at www.electricalpollution.com and www.stetzerelectric.com. At the
latter site, be sure to click on "research" and read about Dr. Magda Havas'
work.  
She is now doing a study with a group of MS patients, and the results are
absolutly stunning. People with MS who could not walk are now shovelling snow
and dancing on their sidewalks, after installing the Graham Stetzer filtersin
their homes.
I will be glad to send my own article on electrical pollution to anyone
who would like to read it.
Regards,
Shivani Arjuna Small
[hidden email]
920-994-4082
     


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Message: 7        
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:40:47 -0800
From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Re:Graham Stetzer "defensiveness"

> Otherwise, he may be facing a law suit.  

Well, that's a fine way to introduce yourself to a group. :-(

All I did was report my reaction to these filters, and
now I've got a bunch of people harrasing me for it.    
One would think that we could have a free exchange of ideas
and information, and then we would all be better off
for it. But instead, now I've got people threatening
me with lawsuits for having a negative reaction to a
product.

If I'm getting sharp pains in my head almost immediately
after plugging something into my power outlet, then I
think that I can safely state that there is something
being generated that were not there before.
Especially when they go away when I unplug it. Especially
when I've tried other types of shunt filters and had
similar reactions.

You've said before that these filters remove the RF
noise in the waveform. Well, in order to do that,
they are obviously alterating the original waveform,
correct? They are not removing the noise
spikes completely, because the meter only shows
a reduction in the noise, not an elimination of it.
So this means that they are either reducing the
amplitude of the noise spikes, or they
are truncating it (or a bit of both). If they
are truncating it, there have already been studies
that sharp corners in waveforms seem to cause
more problems for some ES folks, and I may be reacting
to the introduction of the these new corners
added to the waveforms that were not there in
the first place.

But of course, this is all just my own speculation
based on my reading the about what the filters
do, and my own personal reaction to them. I'd
hardly think that my theorizing in a discussion
group qualifies as slander.

And what about the studies done in schools where
they did the surveys to see if people's health
were doing better or worse after the installation,
and a significant portion of these people reported
that they were doing worse? What is your
explanation for that?

Marc


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Message: 8        
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:55:08 -0800
From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Re:Graham Stetzer "defensiveness"

> If he wants to take the stand that the filters create RF, he is under
> the obligation to prove that this is so.  

I don't take the stand that the filters create RF.

I do take the stand that the filters give me a headache. This
would be very easy to prove with a double blind test.

I also take the stand that I don't see how these filters would
help ES folks who are having trouble tolerating driving
a car, being in an airport, being in a shopping mall, being
in a grocery store, walking under power lines, being in
an internet cafe, standing next to someone using a cellphone,
etc. Perhaps you could explain?

Marc



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Message: 9        
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 02:01:01 -0000
From: "Cara" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re:Graham Stetzer "defensiveness"


Marc, in my search for information and resources regarding ES
and related medical conditions. ESens is the only newsgroup
I've found where the quality of the information shared is
consistently high and, I feel, reliable -- i.e., free of commercial or
any other motivation besides the wish to pool information
relevant to the group. I'd hate to see this change simply because
someone with an interest in promoting or protecting a particular
commercial product starts throwing bullying legal language
around.

It isn't necessary to attack one another here. Don't folks with ES
have enough problems? And, I must say, if someone wants to
convince *me* to buy an EMF protection device or book -- they'll
have better luck winning me over by projecting openness and
confidence rather than insecurity and paranoia. I wouldn't trust a
salesman who threatens his customers. I don't even know what
this product is -- have not been following the posts about it -- but
here is my first impression based on its spokesperson's
behavior: it must be a pretty damn crappy product.

So, am I guilty of slander now, too?

Cara

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Message: 10        
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:53:19 -0800
From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Re:Graham Stetzer "defensiveness"

> I wouldn't trust a
> salesman who threatens his customers. I don't even know what
> this product is -- have not been following the posts about it -- but
> here is my first impression based on its spokesperson's
> behavior: it must be a pretty damn crappy product.

I think if you review the archives, there was one (maybe two?)
person(s) here who have tried the Graham Stetzer filters, and reported
good results with them. I was on another discussion group
where someone bought a whole set of 20 filters, and returned
them because he was having a negative reaction to them.

My only reason for buying one in the first place was to do some
experimentation -- as you know, I had good results with the
Quantum Products line. This line of products has been
described to be "similar to a highly refined shunt
filter". This means that it takes the noise out of the signal,
leaving just the pure signal behind. The Graham-Stetzer filters
have also been described as a shunt filter, so I thought it
would be interesting to compare. But I dismissed them rather
quickly when they immediately caused a piercing headache.

The piercing headache reminded me of a reaction I had
to a plugin device to scare away insects. This company
claimed that the device didn't affect people, but boy did
I have a bad reaction to it!

But I don't doubt that these filter have helped people. I just
think I may already own devices which work better for me and
my particular sensitivities. And I don't really think my
home is much of a problem.

But the thing about these people's reactions which surprise
me is that they assume that I must "imagining" that I'm
having a headache (I suppose I'm imagining that I have ES,
too?), and they will not accept that this product does not
work 100% of the time for everyone -- even though the company's
own research has shown that some people have no reaction
to them, and some have an adverse reaction.

Marc


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Message: 11        
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 04:38:23 -0000
From: "Cara" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: "Neuronton" to relieve ES symptoms


Glenn, I'd be very interested to hear more details about your
friend's experience with Neurontin. And if you try it yourself I hope
you'll post the results here. More information is always good --
and who knows, as my husband's health situation evolves
perhaps we'll try the Neurontin again someday, with better
results.

Best wishes,
Cara

--- In [hidden email], "glennhcoleman"
<ghcoleman@w...> wrote:
>
> Yes, I believe it is Neurontin. I wasn't given an exact spelling.
>
> Thanks for the info about your husband's experience.
>
> Glenn
>
> --- In [hidden email], "Cara"
<cara_evangelista@h...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Glenn,
> >
> > Do you mean Neurontin? My husband tried this
arppoximately two
> years
> > ago but didn't receive any benefit.
> >
> > Cara
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "Glenn Coleman"
<ghcoleman@w...>
> wrote:
> > > I met a lady today who has ES, and found she was having
great
> > success
> > > reducing symptonms by using Neuronton (a drug normally
used for
> > epileptics).
> > >
> > > I am curious if anyone on this list has tried this drug.
> > >
> > > Glenn





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Message: 12        
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:57:07 -0800
From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Re:Graham Stetzer "defensiveness"

> It isn't necessary to attack one another here. Don't folks with ES
> have enough problems?

Heh, heh... well, one of the symptoms of ES is that we get a bit
irritable, so we must be forgiving of our fellow sufferers. :-)
Besides, I've been reading some articles by Shivani, and it appears that
before she was threatening people with lawsuits, she's written
several articles on electrical pollution, and raising awareness
in the public.

One of the articles pretty much answered my earlier question
about the effectiveness of these filters outside the home:

"Arjuna is now so electrically sensitive that even the
arcing in a car's electrical system affects her and
prevents her from driving. She is essentially homebound
as the electrical pollution in most public places affects
her severely".

This is just as I suspected. These filter don't appear to
help you much in getting out into the real world. So for
the hundreds of dollars you spend on these filters, you
still get to be homebound.

Those filters may have kept you alive Shivani, but you could
learn a thing or two here about possibly getting your life
back -- including driving and going to public places.

Marc


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Message: 13        
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:22:32 -0800
From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: Shivani

> One of the articles pretty much answered my earlier question
> about the effectiveness of these filters outside the home:
>
> "Arjuna is now so electrically sensitive that even the
> arcing in a car's electrical system affects her and
> prevents her from driving. She is essentially homebound
> as the electrical pollution in most public places affects
> her severely".

This article says that you also have 37 filters in your
home Shivani, is that correct? Plus,

"she and her husband have taken several measures to
reduce her exposure to harmful electrical phenomena,
including the installation of shielded phone lines
and modifying the hot water heating system, which
conducts ground current, to reduce her exposure
in the kitchen to 'bearable' levels. They have
also stopped using several electrical heating
baseboards that were broadcasting radio-frequency
radiation"

Wow... that's a lot of effort, but it all falls into the
catagory of "avoidance", which I view as only part of
the solution.

I'm also reading that you are a holistic health practitioner
and wellness consultant, which indicates to me that you should
have some awareness of what the rest of the solution should be --
detoxification & nutrition. Have you done anything
in these areas for your ES?

Also, as I'm sure you must realize, there are dozens
of EMF protection devices on the market. What have
you tried besides these 37 filters?

Marc


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Message: 14        
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:50:06 +1100
From: "Benson, Sarah \(Sen L. Allison\)" <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: Panic attacks caused by poor (high chest) breathing!

Fish does tend to contain mercury - especially those that live close to
the shore. Mercury toxicity causes panic attacks - I once knew a very
healthy woman who worked in a laboratory who had mercury spilt on her -
and then started having panic attacks almost straight away. I battled
with them for about 10 years - deep breathing helped a bit
sometimes....but generally they're too strong to respond completely.
The organ that is involved is the kidneys....weak kidneys or polluted
kidneys will cetainly contribute to the problem. Personally I think the
causes are multi-factorial, like a lot of things.

Sarah

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From: Jan Jenson [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Monday, 21 March 2005 1:44 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [eSens] Panic attacks caused by poor (high chest) breathing!




From: Jan Jenson <[hidden email]>

One of your major problems (besides severe dehydration) is poor
breathing! Please check this website for more information:
www.breathing.com Poor breathing causes panic and anxiety attacks, which
can bestopped, simply and effectively, by improving your MECHANICAL
breathing function. Jan Jenson, OBDS Optimal Breathing Development
Specialist Editor, The Detox News Download a FREE copy of my first
issue here: www.breathing.com/free-gifts-jj.htm


Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:35:57 -0000
From: "joycesoos" <[hidden email]>
Subject: CAT scans


I had a CAT scan on my lower back last Tuesday. I am still on
antibiotics for a sinus infection, and due to have another scan on my
sinuses on Monday. Just wondering if this, plus the antibiotics (for a
month now) could cause me to have headaches while using the compy plus a
general run-down feeling. My mouth is really dry and end up having mild
panic attacks around electrical appliances. Hopefully after Monday's
scan, I won't need any more of these. I also don't feel well with just
ordinary x-rays lately. I have been eating a lot of fish, and my new
chiro told me yesterday to stop it because of the mercury involved. I am
about to do a mercury detox. Thanks for any info!



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> and wanted to know if others have gold and silver in their mouths who
> also have emf sensitivity...

Yeah, I had some gold in my mouth mixed with the mercury amalgam
fillings. I had all the metal removed from my mouth 4 years ago.
This caused an immediate improvement in some symptoms, while
others lingered on.

You should probably do a little at a time. I had 3 removed on
one day, and then another 2 the next day. I wouldn't do *that*
again! (massive dumping of toxins)

Also, depending on the brand of novocaine used and depending
on your sensitivities, the novocaine shot may cause it's own
problems (although it may also eliminate your ES symptoms for
a few days -- it did with me)

Marc

Silver Filling
> Al Huggins, has a great book out called It's all in your Head, he
talks about mercury filling's giving off positive/negative charges
and if you throw another metal in the mouth it makes matter's even
worse because their is constant firing's going on...Deb