airplanes

Hi all,
I was dismayed this morning to notice I am now reacting to the airplanes
flying overhead. It is amazing to me that they put out so much EMF to effect
me down here. I hope this doesn't get worse. Is this a symptom others have
had improve? How would one ever go on a plane or near an airport again?!
Thanks, Julie

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I have contemplated feeling EMF from planes in the sky, as I live in a
flight path of a major airport. I was wandering wether that was why I was waking
at approx 5.30 am feeling emf sensations, I guessed it might be the ground
scanning radar. As far as the not going on planes again, yes you can but you
know as well as I do that you will pay a price in your own special way. I find
that I am able to take the massive EMF hit at the airport and on the plane
(without mobiles being used on board that is !!!) If you want to travel you
will have to weather the storm on this one, its no use pre-empting what the
effects may be you have to make that faustian bargain to get to your goal on
this one. I am convinced that to live with/adapt to ES (like many disorders)
you need to get to the stage of accepting that nothing is perfect, most people
who travel will feel like crap for a myriad of reasons, you just have to get
through it to achieve your goal, if you really want to that is.

You can of course purchase a scanner/meter to show what you are being
exposed to on the airplane side of things.

best wishes

Paul -uk



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I've determined that my largest problem by far is radio waves from airport
ground navigational instruments, furthermore it seems to 'poison' the
electricity so I am therefore more sensitive to electric and magnetic
fields. I've actually now really started to notice how I feel driving down
the highway, I can usually 'sense' a radio tower before it appears on the
horizon, and certain radio towers bother me alot more than others. Has
anyone else had similar experience? For me, it appears the trick to life it
finding the right place to live where I feel right, because all my problems
are wholly consisting of the radio wave soup of a particular location, and
it is impossible to accurately measure this stuff, so I have now learned how
to accurately distiguish this stuff and trust my feelings. I recently
chose to live near an airport because I couldn't measure any of the radio
waves, my instruments basically failed me. I won't make that mistake again.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "julie genser" <j_genser@hotmail.com <j_genser%40hotmail.com>>
> To: <eSens@yahoogroups.com <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 6:42 PM
> Subject: [eSens] airplanes
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> > Hi all,
> > I was dismayed this morning to notice I am now reacting to the airplanes
> > flying overhead. It is amazing to me that they put out so much EMF to
> effect
> > me down here. I hope this doesn't get worse. Is this a symptom others
> have
> > had improve? How would one ever go on a plane or near an airport again?!
> > Thanks, Julie
> >
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> > With tax season right around the corner, make sure to follow these few
> > simple tips.
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>
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In a message dated 3/12/2007 5:40:32 AM GMT Standard Time, [hidden email]
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I've determined that my largest problem by far is radio waves from airport
ground navigational instruments, furthermore it seems to 'poison' the
electricity so I am therefore more sensitive to electric and magnetic
fields. I've actually now really started to notice how I feel driving down
the highway, I can usually 'sense' a radio tower before it appears on the
horizon, and certain radio towers bother me alot more than others. Has
anyone else had similar experience?


PAUL UK replies - Yes I am the same, I can demonstrate this using the
Electrosmog detector or Micro alert when driving. This is not fun when on a long
journey typically it will be on the return journey where I am most sensitive.
I can sense them sometimes a 1000mtrs or so, away before I can see them,
and before the electrosmog detector starts to react. A good example was when I
was a passenger on a journey through a mountainous region in Norway. I told
occupants in car that there was a mast coming up, we drove over the hill and
behold the silver beast stood before us ! I also feel the electrical wires
when we drive alongside them. That said when on the move I do not feel as
bad as if I were to spend time in the imediate vicinity of the masts/anttenea
maybe its a bit like moving around in the sun it takes longer to feel the
sunburn ?!

Paul UK



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I regularly feel the burn on my face, eyes and head from cell towers as
I drive by them.
Fortunately it is less now than a few years ago.
Not gone yet though.
Andrew
On Mar 12, 2007, at 1:40 AM, Paul Coffman wrote:

> I've determined that my largest problem by far is radio waves from
> airport
> ground navigational instruments, furthermore it seems to 'poison' the
> electricity so I am therefore more sensitive to electric and magnetic
> fields. I've actually now really started to notice how I feel driving
> down
> the highway, I can usually 'sense' a radio tower before it appears on
> the
> horizon, and certain radio towers bother me alot more than others. Has
> anyone else had similar experience? For me, it appears the trick to
> life it
> finding the right place to live where I feel right, because all my
> problems
> are wholly consisting of the radio wave soup of a particular location,
> and
> it is impossible to accurately measure this stuff, so I have now
> learned how
> to accurately distiguish this stuff and trust my feelings. I recently
> chose to live near an airport because I couldn't measure any of the
> radio
> waves, my instruments basically failed me. I won't make that mistake
> again.
>
>
>

>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "julie genser" <j_genser@hotmail.com <j_genser%40hotmail.com>>
>> To: <eSens@yahoogroups.com <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 6:42 PM
>> Subject: [eSens] airplanes
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I was dismayed this morning to notice I am now reacting to the
>>> airplanes
>>> flying overhead. It is amazing to me that they put out so much EMF to
>> effect
>>> me down here. I hope this doesn't get worse. Is this a symptom others
>> have
>>> had improve? How would one ever go on a plane or near an airport
>>> again?!
>>> Thanks, Julie
>>>
>>> __________________________________________________________
>>> With tax season right around the corner, make sure to follow these
>>> few
>>> simple tips.
>>>
>>
>> http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Taxes/PreparationTips/ 
>> PreparationTips.aspx?icid=HMFebtagline
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>>> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/714 - Release Date:
>>> 08/03/07
>> 10:58
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Hi Paul,

I certainly felt the air to ground radar when a Air Force training plane
flew overhead 2 days ago at low altitude, skimming the hills around me.

I also can feel when towers are near, like when driving down the
highway. So, yes to your question.

Along the same thought, Yesterday I went hiking. When in a ravine/canyon
with trees overhead, (and 1/4 Mile from the power lines), I felt real
good. After climbing up the hill to take the "exploration" way home, I
really got That feeling again on my scalp with the headache on the increase.
Looking around, my elevation was 3400, just high enough to see the
mountain, at a distance of 7 miles, with towers on it. And from my
research of the area, I knew which direction and altitude the other 2
visible towers were coming from.

Point is, higher is bad. Lower is good. Under trees, surrounded by rocks
and hills.

Stewart

Paul Coffman wrote:

Paul -

It is nice to talk to someone with the exact same experience with radio
waves. I always had the impression the Europe was more interested in health
of people than the US - is there any significant public discussion about the
adverse health effects of cell masts at least? I was wondering if my
problems might be less if I lived in Europe, but from what I've heard from
you I guess that isn't the case. In the US, the only discussion is
black/white is there a direct link to cancer, which they will never 'prove'
.

On 3/12/07, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:


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Adding a thought to this:
I took the Rf meter to the parks to measure the three playgrounds in
town and went off the path to measure the oak trees.The ambient in the
area was .2  
With their arching canopies it was nice underneath the trees but as I
measured their trunks and branches it seems the trees are absorbing
the RF. In our county the trees are dieing. One measured up to 11 u
W/cm2 with meter on the limb. The dead sections of the trees were
about .5.


> Point is, higher is bad. Lower is good. Under trees, surrounded by
rocks
> and hills.
>
> Stewart

To Paul Coffman -

Have you checked out Electrosensitivity.uk
_http://aolsearch.aol.co.uk/redir?urn=http://www.electrosensitivity.org.uk/&ur
l=http://www.electrosensitivity.org.uk/&requestId=b1357b569ddf9f&clickedItemRa
nk=1&source=google&searchType=MS&partner=google&query=es%20uk_
(http://aolsearch.aol.co.uk/redir?urn=http://www.electrosensitivity.org.uk/&url=http://www.el
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gle&searchType=MS&partner=google&query=es%20uk)

Paul UK

I guess anywhere that has developed a mobile phone network is a problem !
Even Switzerland where thay have produced this doc as attached -



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Thanks for the link.

On 3/12/07, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:


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