Wi-Fi lawsuit against Portland Public Schools dismissed by federal judge
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It's seems to be up to the FCC now. Kathy http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/07/wi-fi_lawsuit_against_portland.html Wi-Fi lawsuit against Portland Public Schools dismissed by federal judge Published: Friday, July 20, 2012 By Helen Jung, The Oregonian A federal judge on Friday dismissed a lawsuit seeking to force Portland Public Schools to remove Wi-Fi installations from its schools. The lawsuit, filed last year by Southeast Portland parent David Mark Morrison, argued that Wi-Fi exposes children to unacceptable levels of radiation over prolonged periods of time and impacts their health. But U.S. District Judge Michael Mosman found that the lawsuit, while aimed at Portland Public Schools, also challenges the safety standards set by the Federal Communications Commission. The radiation levels emitted by its Wi-Fi networks are below the limits established by the FCC, Portland Public Schools argued. Mosman said the FCC, not his court, has the authority to consider such a challenge or change to its rules. Morrison's attorney Shawn Abrell argued that the agency does not deal with issues in a timely manner. He also called the FCC "an agency so tied up with telecommunications companies, it's ineffective."But Mosman said "that fact, if I accepted it as true, doesn't confer jurisdiction on me."The judge did not address the merits of the lawsuit and did not rule on motions by both sides to strike the expert opinions of the opposing side. Morrison said he intends to appeal the decision. --Helen Jung Follow @helenjung © 2012 OregonLive.com. All rights reserved. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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The FCC knew what they were doing when they got the Telecommunications
Act of 1996 passed based on irrelevant study information. Also managed to get "health reasons" as not an allowable reason to prohibit the siting of cell towers. It's infuriating! Esther On Jul 23, 2012, at 5:38 PM, KathyB wrote: > > It's seems to be up to the FCC now. Kathy > http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/07/wi-fi_lawsuit_against_portland.html > Wi-Fi lawsuit against Portland Public Schools dismissed by federal > judge > > > Published: Friday, July 20, 2012 > > > > > > > By > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Helen Jung, The Oregonian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A federal judge on Friday dismissed a lawsuit seeking to force > Portland Public Schools to remove Wi-Fi installations from its > schools. > The lawsuit, filed last year by Southeast Portland parent David Mark > Morrison, argued that Wi-Fi exposes children to unacceptable levels of > radiation over prolonged periods of time and impacts their health. > But U.S. District Judge Michael Mosman found that the lawsuit, while > aimed at Portland Public Schools, also challenges the safety standards > set by the Federal Communications Commission. The radiation levels > emitted by its Wi-Fi networks are below the limits established > by the FCC, Portland Public Schools argued. Mosman said the FCC, > not his court, has the authority to consider such a challenge or > change to its rules. > Morrison's > attorney Shawn Abrell argued that the agency does not deal with issues > in a timely manner. He also called the FCC "an agency so tied up with > telecommunications companies, it's ineffective."But Mosman said > "that fact, if I accepted it as true, doesn't confer jurisdiction on > me."The > judge did not address the merits of the lawsuit and did not rule on > motions by both sides to strike the expert opinions of the opposing > side. > Morrison said he intends to appeal the decision. > > --Helen Jung > Follow @helenjung > > > > > > > > > © 2012 OregonLive.com. All rights reserved. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [hidden email] [hidden email] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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It must be difficult to make a case when only one party is doing the accusing and complaining...Everybody else is on the WIFI dope and they have their science to support its benefits. The same types of scenes happened at the dawn of the cigarette era. It took about 70 years for people to start "getting it" and cigarettes were no where near as pragmatic as the technologies of today. They are much more addictive on the psychological level and the radiation may also be physically addictive as well. Has anyone done the research?
The good news is that things are moving much faster than in the early years of cigarette contention. There just has not been any precedent yet set in the States. If the time comes for public outcry, then the tides will turn... In the meantime, you're living in one of the most ignorant places on earth (just because our cowboy mentalities make us to think that WE ARE SO SUPERIOR-- not). Most Americans love being "in the dark" so far as not to have to be responsible for public good... Of course, this is only an opinion of mine and many others... Let's see. Perhaps the reasoning they established the Telecommunications Act in a way that totally dismantled the spirit of the U.S. Constution and got away with it is because they knew the microwave proliferation would be potentially harmful to people's lives. Deregulation was the spirit of '96 and Europe and Asia were well into the forefront of this new age phenom--SO...here we have it. I would have been pleasantly surprised if the family in Portland stood a snowball's chance in hell of winning that lawsuit. Fast forward ten years from now and potentially tens if not hundreds of people could be "going to court" then that school system as well as others would begin to feel the sting of all the hundreds of thousands of dollars they might have to fork out defending themselves. Sadly, if more people continue to get ill and a good number are then children-- a case will be more likely to see the light of day. Until then...can we at least advocate for better shielding and opt outs where children can have access to some computers that have ethernet wiring. The energy is everywhere in schools anyway, between the phones and the pads and the kindles plus the WIFI (which most children want). I would love to even see a shielded section within the school itself. (Oh, I also work in several schools as a per diem and I know very well how it is). I wouldn't fret too much over this. Lawsuits have been getting lost (ask Arthur Firstenberg, he knows first hand about this. I'll keep working on my shielding... Pam --- On Tue, 7/24/12, Esther LeSieur <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Esther LeSieur <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Wi-Fi lawsuit against Portland Public Schools dismissed by federal judge To: [hidden email] Date: Tuesday, July 24, 2012, 5:42 AM The FCC knew what they were doing when they got the Telecommunications Act of 1996 passed based on irrelevant study information. Also managed to get "health reasons" as not an allowable reason to prohibit the siting of cell towers. It's infuriating! Esther On Jul 23, 2012, at 5:38 PM, KathyB wrote: > > It's seems to be up to the FCC now. Kathy > http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/07/wi-fi_lawsuit_against_portland.html > Wi-Fi lawsuit against Portland Public Schools dismissed by federal > judge > > > Published: Friday, July 20, 2012 > > > > > > > By > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Helen Jung, The Oregonian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A federal judge on Friday dismissed a lawsuit seeking to force > Portland Public Schools to remove Wi-Fi installations from its > schools. > The lawsuit, filed last year by Southeast Portland parent David Mark > Morrison, argued that Wi-Fi exposes children to unacceptable levels of > radiation over prolonged periods of time and impacts their health. > But U.S. District Judge Michael Mosman found that the lawsuit, while > aimed at Portland Public Schools, also challenges the safety standards > set by the Federal Communications Commission. The radiation levels > emitted by its Wi-Fi networks are below the limits established > by the FCC, Portland Public Schools argued. Mosman said the FCC, > not his court, has the authority to consider such a challenge or > change to its rules. > Morrison's > attorney Shawn Abrell argued that the agency does not deal with issues > in a timely manner. He also called the FCC "an agency so tied up with > telecommunications companies, it's ineffective."But Mosman said > "that fact, if I accepted it as true, doesn't confer jurisdiction on > me."The > judge did not address the merits of the lawsuit and did not rule on > motions by both sides to strike the expert opinions of the opposing > side. > Morrison said he intends to appeal the decision. > > --Helen Jung > Follow @helenjung > > > > > > > > > © 2012 OregonLive.com. All rights reserved. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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And we know how concerned about health they are.
PAm --- On Mon, 7/23/12, KathyB <[hidden email]> wrote: From: KathyB <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Wi-Fi lawsuit against Portland Public Schools dismissed by federal judge To: [hidden email] Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 8:38 PM It's seems to be up to the FCC now. Kathy http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/07/wi-fi_lawsuit_against_portland.html Wi-Fi lawsuit against Portland Public Schools dismissed by federal judge Published: Friday, July 20, 2012 By Helen Jung, The Oregonian A federal judge on Friday dismissed a lawsuit seeking to force Portland Public Schools to remove Wi-Fi installations from its schools. The lawsuit, filed last year by Southeast Portland parent David Mark Morrison, argued that Wi-Fi exposes children to unacceptable levels of radiation over prolonged periods of time and impacts their health. But U.S. District Judge Michael Mosman found that the lawsuit, while aimed at Portland Public Schools, also challenges the safety standards set by the Federal Communications Commission. The radiation levels emitted by its Wi-Fi networks are below the limits established by the FCC, Portland Public Schools argued. Mosman said the FCC, not his court, has the authority to consider such a challenge or change to its rules. Morrison's attorney Shawn Abrell argued that the agency does not deal with issues in a timely manner. He also called the FCC "an agency so tied up with telecommunications companies, it's ineffective."But Mosman said "that fact, if I accepted it as true, doesn't confer jurisdiction on me."The judge did not address the merits of the lawsuit and did not rule on motions by both sides to strike the expert opinions of the opposing side. Morrison said he intends to appeal the decision. --Helen Jung Follow @helenjung © 2012 OregonLive.com. All rights reserved. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I'm finding lots of post to respond to here, even though they are old ones.
I just sent a link of Stetzer's research page to a friend who has had many teacher friends die of cancer. It just so happens her husband is a state senator, Mark Hass. I'll see where this goes, if she will just blow it off. Once one is labeled then they write you off. I found this to be true of the fluoride argument also. I'm so far off of their track that it might go unread. On the other hand, she could take it and run with it. Cheers, Joan --- In [hidden email], pamela clemonts <adiaha22@...> wrote: > > And we know how concerned about health they are. > > PAm > > --- On Mon, 7/23/12, KathyB <calicocat477@...> wrote: > > From: KathyB <calicocat477@...> > Subject: [eSens] Wi-Fi lawsuit against Portland Public Schools dismissed by federal judge > To: [hidden email] > Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 8:38 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > It's seems to be up to the FCC now. Kathy > > http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/07/wi-fi_lawsuit_against_portland.html > > Wi-Fi lawsuit against Portland Public Schools dismissed by federal judge > > > > > > Published: Friday, July 20, 2012 > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > By > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Helen Jung, The Oregonian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A federal judge on Friday dismissed a lawsuit seeking to force > > Portland Public Schools to remove Wi-Fi installations from its schools. > > The lawsuit, filed last year by Southeast Portland parent David Mark > > Morrison, argued that Wi-Fi exposes children to unacceptable levels of > > radiation over prolonged periods of time and impacts their health. > > But U.S. District Judge Michael Mosman found that the lawsuit, while > > aimed at Portland Public Schools, also challenges the safety standards > > set by the Federal Communications Commission. The radiation levels > > emitted by its Wi-Fi networks are below the limits established > > by the FCC, Portland Public Schools argued. Mosman said the FCC, not his court, has the authority to consider such a challenge or change to its rules. > > Morrison's > > attorney Shawn Abrell argued that the agency does not deal with issues > > in a timely manner. He also called the FCC "an agency so tied up with > > telecommunications companies, it's ineffective."But Mosman said "that fact, if I accepted it as true, doesn't confer jurisdiction on me."The > > judge did not address the merits of the lawsuit and did not rule on > > motions by both sides to strike the expert opinions of the opposing > > side. > > Morrison said he intends to appeal the decision. > > > > --Helen Jung > > Follow @helenjung > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > © 2012 OregonLive.com. All rights reserved. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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if portland can entertain the possibility of fluoride
in the water - it's not that surprising that they would also dismiss the threats of wifi. amazing. even the eugene water & electric board is trying to force smart meters here. gag gag gag... in both ways... we are gagged and we gag due to the assault on our senses. i hope she takes it and runs, joan. no harm in trying. :) love, patricia On Nov 9, 2012, at 11:57 AM, coloredoctave wrote: > I'm finding lots of post to respond to here, even though they are old ones. > > I just sent a link of Stetzer's research page to a friend who has had many teacher friends die of cancer. It just so happens her husband is a state senator, Mark Hass. I'll see where this goes, if she will just blow it off. Once one is labeled then they write you off. I found this to be true of the fluoride argument also. I'm so far off of their track that it might go unread. > > On the other hand, she could take it and run with it. > > Cheers, > Joan > > --- In [hidden email], pamela clemonts <adiaha22@...> wrote: >> >> And we know how concerned about health they are. >> >> PAm >> >> --- On Mon, 7/23/12, KathyB <calicocat477@...> wrote: >> >> From: KathyB <calicocat477@...> >> Subject: [eSens] Wi-Fi lawsuit against Portland Public Schools dismissed by federal judge >> To: [hidden email] >> Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 8:38 PM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>  >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's seems to be up to the FCC now. Kathy >> >> http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/07/wi-fi_lawsuit_against_portland.html >> >> Wi-Fi lawsuit against Portland Public Schools dismissed by federal judge >> >> >> >> >> >> Published: Friday, July 20, 2012 >> >>  >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> By >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Helen Jung, The Oregonian >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> A federal judge on Friday dismissed a lawsuit seeking to force >> >> Portland Public Schools to remove Wi-Fi installations from its schools. >> >> The lawsuit, filed last year by Southeast Portland parent David Mark >> >> Morrison, argued that Wi-Fi exposes children to unacceptable levels of >> >> radiation over prolonged periods of time and impacts their health. >> >> But U.S. District Judge Michael Mosman found that the lawsuit, while >> >> aimed at Portland Public Schools, also challenges the safety standards >> >> set by the Federal Communications Commission. The radiation levels >> >> emitted by its Wi-Fi networks are below the limits established >> >> by the FCC, Portland Public Schools argued. Mosman said the FCC, not his court, has the authority to consider such a challenge or change to its rules. >> >> Morrison's >> >> attorney Shawn Abrell argued that the agency does not deal with issues >> >> in a timely manner. He also called the FCC "an agency so tied up with >> >> telecommunications companies, it's ineffective."But Mosman said "that fact, if I accepted it as true, doesn't confer jurisdiction on me."The >> >> judge did not address the merits of the lawsuit and did not rule on >> >> motions by both sides to strike the expert opinions of the opposing >> >> side. >> >> Morrison said he intends to appeal the decision. >> >> >> >> --Helen Jung >> >> Follow @helenjung >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> © 2012 OregonLive.com. All rights reserved. >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > |
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Joan,
You did a good thing. How long can the lies about wi-fi be denied? I pray the Senator will read it and believe. Share Dennis Kucinch's legislative bill with Mr. Hass. Mr. Kuchinch is a smart man. It's sad he didn't get re-elected. *http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr6358/text * Have him read Dr. Davis's research * http://ehtrust.org/cell-phones-radiation-3/* Oh, & Mr. Gonzale's Facebook story of his brain & 2 other cancers induced from his cell phone. * https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.3049231944756.133832.1081933979&type=1 *If the above link doesn't work, go to his main page *https://www.facebook.com/jimmy.gonzalez.54772?fref=ts * Look in albums for his brain cancer story. He's got all the info there. We know kid's skulls are thinner. Wi-fi needs to come out of schools, hospitals, doctor's offices. Kathy New email [hidden email] > > On Nov 9, 2012, at 11:57 AM, coloredoctave wrote: > > > I'm finding lots of post to respond to here, even though they are old > ones. > > > > I just sent a link of Stetzer's research page to a friend who has had > many teacher friends die of cancer. It just so happens her husband is a > state senator, Mark Hass. I'll see where this goes, if she will just blow > it off. Once one is labeled then they write you off. I found this to be > true of the fluoride argument also. I'm so far off of their track that it > might go unread. > > > > On the other hand, she could take it and run with it. > > > > Cheers, > > Joan > > > >> > >> --- On Mon, 7/23/12, KathyB <calicocat477@...> wrote: > >> > >> From: KathyB <calicocat477@...> > >> Subject: [eSens] Wi-Fi lawsuit against Portland Public Schools > dismissed by federal judge > >> To: [hidden email] > >> Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 8:38 PM > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>  > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> It's seems to be up to the FCC now. Kathy > >> > >> > http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/07/wi-fi_lawsuit_against_portland.html > >> > >> Wi-Fi lawsuit against Portland Public Schools dismissed by federal judge > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Published: Friday, July 20, 2012 > >> > >>  > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> By > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Helen Jung, The Oregonian > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> A federal judge on Friday dismissed a lawsuit seeking to force > >> > >> Portland Public Schools to remove Wi-Fi installations from its schools. > >> > >> The lawsuit, filed last year by Southeast Portland parent David Mark > >> > >> Morrison, argued that Wi-Fi exposes children to unacceptable levels of > >> > >> radiation over prolonged periods of time and impacts their health. > >> > >> But U.S. District Judge Michael Mosman found that the lawsuit, while > >> > >> aimed at Portland Public Schools, also challenges the safety standards > >> > >> set by the Federal Communications Commission. The radiation levels > >> > >> emitted by its Wi-Fi networks are below the limits established > >> > >> by the FCC, Portland Public Schools argued. Mosman said the FCC, not > his court, has the authority to consider such a challenge or change to its > rules. > >> > >> Morrison's > >> > >> attorney Shawn Abrell argued that the agency does not deal with issues > >> > >> in a timely manner. He also called the FCC "an agency so tied up with > >> > >> telecommunications companies, it's ineffective."But Mosman said "that > fact, if I accepted it as true, doesn't confer jurisdiction on me."The > >> > >> judge did not address the merits of the lawsuit and did not rule on > >> > >> motions by both sides to strike the expert opinions of the opposing > >> > >> side. > >> > >> Morrison said he intends to appeal the decision. > >> > >> > >> > >> --Helen Jung > >> > >> Follow @helenjung > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> © 2012 OregonLive.com. All rights reserved. > >> > >> > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! 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People's minds are like electricity, polarized one way or the other. Has very little to do with intelligence as we see again and again.
It has been an education having a friend turn politician. There is no attempt to understand other's points of view. They are written off as quacks. He is in that position because he knows what's best, sort of thing. I know of another politician who asked a wife of another politician about fluoride because he was to vote and he knew nothing about it. This was ten years ago. Look at me. My husband's job is putting Wi-Fi in hotels. I don't like that this is an open forum, so I will sign my name JL in the future. JL |
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