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I believe that everyone is affected by electical radiation.
I don't obviously have any of the effects suffered by posters here, so why not? I suffer from an electrical malfunction called paroxysmal supraventricular tachycardia, which makes my heartbeat go crazy, and according to my doctor is supposed to have killed me years ago. What I did was support the immune system with the kind of food that is known to rebuild, repair and support health of the body. This is called the paleolithic diet. Everyone who has honestly tried this has proven it true for themselves, me too. from the viewpoint of one who has spent his working life in electronics, it is clear that good insulation is required for good performance of electrical systems, here we are concerned with the nervous system. The human nervous system depends for good function on insulation called the myelin sheath. The myelin sheath is made mostly of fat. Animal fat. Raw animal fat. We live in a low-fat world. Most of the available fat is vegetable in origin, and this has been shown to be inadequate at best for the needs of our bodies. I would be willing to bet that those who try the paleolithic diet will see then end of their electro-sensitivity in a few weeks, assuming that they can find enough edible fat. http://www.paleodiet.com/ "Who dares, wins." |
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Ok - saw the web page can you tell me in a nut shell what is your typical
diet, lets start there please. Thanks Paul [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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My diet might be irrelevant, as it depends on climate, heredity, season of year, local
availability etc. Most successful people report that fat beef works, for desperately ill, rawhas been the right medicine. Really, if you read the articles you'll see what's needed. William --- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote: > > Ok - saw the web page can you tell me in a nut shell what is your typical > diet, lets start there please. > > Thanks > Paul > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Hi all,
Vinny was kind enough to send me one of his prototype coherent space devices for evaluation, and this arrived a couple of days ago. The one he sent me was an AUTO-21, which is supposed to have a range of 15-28 feet (I wonder how he comes up with these numbers?). You can see a photo and description on this page: http://www.coherentspace.info/products.html The device was a little thicker than I expected, and probably a bit too thick to comfortably have in your pants pocket, which is something I do with my trusty Quantum Companion from QuantumProducts.com. (the AUTO-21 is about twice as thick as the Quantum Companion). Historically, any device that I have had success with in the longterm has produced some kind of adverse reaction in the initial days/weeks, and it takes a bit of time to get used to before I can tell if it's helpful in the longterm. I think this is going to be the case with the AUTO-21 as well. I did a "tolerance test" by placing it next to my body for about an hour, and I could definitely feel *something* going on in my body, but I could not tell if it was good or bad. Moving the device away from me to 10-20 feet, I could also feel about the same thing, although perhaps not as intense. The feeling was hard to describe, perhaps a kind of cellular "rumbling" or trembling... I can't really describe it. I also notice random pains in my body while it was placed on top of the TV set for a couple hours last night and I was 10 feet away. There is also some slight anxiety/tension/tightening of the chest, which is unfortunate, because usually anything that causes that symptom eventually just gets worse and worse until I have to discontinue the product. It also may be contributing to some "face burning" symptoms, which in case I'd describe it as making my ES symptoms *worse*. I did *not* feel any more energetic or healthier. But like I said, I'm going to have to give this a little more time to be fair, and see if I can overcome the initial reaction. I'm going to try this is in the workplace today, as that is a more consistent/predictable environment (also high EMF). Marc |
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Hi Marc:
Thanks for your report! Now, I am curious: how are your cats reacting to it? BTW, while the range for strongest effect seems to be a radius of about 15 feet, the range for moderate effect seems to be a rdiuos of about 28 to 30 feet, perhaps a bit more. with care, --Vinny At 10:12 AM 9/25/2006, you wrote: >Hi all, > >Vinny was kind enough to send me one of his prototype >coherent space devices for evaluation, and this arrived >a couple of days ago. The one he sent me was an >AUTO-21, which is supposed to have a range of 15-28 feet >(I wonder how he comes up with these numbers?). You can >see a photo and description on this page: > > http://www.coherentspace.info/products.html > >The device was a little thicker than I expected, and >probably a bit too thick to comfortably have in your >pants pocket, which is something I do with my trusty >Quantum Companion from QuantumProducts.com. (the >AUTO-21 is about twice as thick as the Quantum >Companion). > >Historically, any device that I have had success with >in the longterm has produced some kind of adverse >reaction in the initial days/weeks, and it takes >a bit of time to get used to before I can tell if >it's helpful in the longterm. I think this is >going to be the case with the AUTO-21 as well. > >I did a "tolerance test" by placing it next to >my body for about an hour, and I could definitely >feel *something* going on in my body, but I could >not tell if it was good or bad. Moving the device >away from me to 10-20 feet, I could also feel about >the same thing, although perhaps not as intense. >The feeling was hard to describe, perhaps a kind >of cellular "rumbling" or trembling... I can't >really describe it. I also notice random pains >in my body while it was placed on top of the TV set >for a couple hours last night and I was 10 feet away. >There is also some slight anxiety/tension/tightening >of the chest, which is unfortunate, because usually >anything that causes that symptom eventually just >gets worse and worse until I have to discontinue >the product. It also may be contributing to some >"face burning" symptoms, which in case I'd describe >it as making my ES symptoms *worse*. I did *not* >feel any more energetic or healthier. > >But like I said, I'm going to have to give this a >little more time to be fair, and see if I can >overcome the initial reaction. I'm going to >try this is in the workplace today, as that >is a more consistent/predictable environment >(also high EMF). > >Marc > > > Vinny Pinto [hidden email] phone 301-694-1249 To see my informational websites and e-mail list groups, please go to: http://www.vinnypinto.us |
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> Thanks for your report! Now, I am curious: how are your cats reacting to
> it? Well, I was playing it safe -- I don't think the cats got any closer to this device than 40-50 feet, and I haven't noticed any reaction in my cats, dog, or wife. Marc |
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> Most successful people report that fat beef works, for desperately ill,
> raw has been the right medicine. > > Really, if you read the articles you'll see what's needed. I've certainly increased the percentage of raw, organic foods over what I consumed prior to becoming ES. Prior to becoming ES, I'd say that my raw food intake was close to zero. Now, it's at least 50%. Some of the raw foodist advocate raw animal products -- raw meat, etc. In this area, I've only tried raw milk, cheese, and eggs (no meat). I've certainly found additional benefits from these, but only in small amounts (adverse reactions and weight gain come with larger amounts) Marc |
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> Thanks for your report!
By the way, it is interesting to me that the various devices cause their own unique "adverse effects". Although there is certainly some commonality -- for example, this anxiety/chest pains/panic attack/chest tightness symptoms have shown up for me repeatedly, using both nutritional supplements and EMF protection devices. I theorize that they are mobilizing some toxins that my body is having a nasty reaction to. The variety of items which have caused these particular symptoms are: * Modifilan - a seaweed extract supplement, supposedly good for radiation and heavy metal detox. * sacred geometry medallions - an EMF protection pendant that used to be sold by "Tools for Wellness" * chia seeds - supposedly a good source of omega-3 fatty acids and improved energy levels. * rejuvenizer pendant - a pendant from lighthealing.com that is supposed to be good for EMF protection and general health improvement. * Goji berries - supposed to be healthy. * Natural Cellular Defense - liquid zeolite for detoxifying heavy metals. So your device is in good company, Vinny, although I had to rather quickly abandon all of the above things due to unnacceptable bad reactions... Marc |
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Oh, by the way, prior to receiving Vinny's device, I had
been experimenting with the "D battery" suggestion, and had placed a battery next to my monitor at home and also at work. I've concluded (so far) that this *does* seem to improve things, but only by a minor amount. I still need to use my Quantum Products power strip and Quantum Byte software on top of the D battery to get more complete relief. I have not tried using multiple batteries, or experiment with placement, however... Marc |
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Marc - I get induced anxiety sensation in my abdomen/solar plexus when I
drive my dads Rover 25 - 2002 model, I say induced because it does not matter wether I am happy, sad, angry or calm it happens no matter, it is definately not a pavlovian response, the emfs in th car are quite high compared to my Fiat, I can just about bare it, but as I have had to use this for a while as my Fiat Punto is sick, I have started to get regular blips in my heart beat, a sort of mini explosion of adrenaline/skip a beat thing - this is bad news for me !! regards Paul [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> Marc - I get induced anxiety sensation in my abdomen/solar plexus when I
> drive my dads Rover 25 - 2002 model, I say induced because it does not > matter wether I am happy, sad, angry or calm it happens no matter I've read that this anxiety symptom can be caused by the mobilization of copper into the bloodstream. This would make sense for folks with ES, as copper is certainly one of the more electrically conductive metals, so it certainly could be mobilized in the presence of EMF. It would also make sense for me, because when I had a hair mineral analyses done years ago, my copper readings were off the scale. Also, I noticed that prior to getting ES, my intake in soy products had increased, and soy is high in copper. (I've never been tested to see if I have some sort of copper loading disorder, like Wilson's disease) The challenge then becomes finding a way to get the copper (or whatever metal it might be) out of the body safely. EMF protection devices are not the safest way to eliminate metals, because they don't have any way to bind to the metal and remove them from the body. Marc |
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Vinny, wasn't one of the testimonials about your
devices that it caused a lot of sneezing initially? I noticed that I've been sneezing a lot at work today, with the device about 20 feet away from me. (note that I do have co-workers who are sitting closer to the device than I am, but I note no changes in them) Marc |
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Hi Marc:
Yes, a woman in Australia who lives under power lines reported much temporary sneezing for the first couple of weeks of using her device. It has never happened for me, but sneezing is considered in many healing traditions to be a very commonplace cleansing symptom, particularly for toxins located in the head (i.e, brain, sinuses, etc.). Strangely, several people have reported to me that their sense of smell seems more acute now that they have one of these devices -- this includes people who were not noticeably ES and who noticed no other significant benefits from using the device. Perhaps the funniest reports have been those of happy dreams and better sleep! with care, --Vinny At 07:17 PM 9/25/2006, you wrote: >Vinny, wasn't one of the testimonials about your >devices that it caused a lot of sneezing initially? >I noticed that I've been sneezing a lot at work today, >with the device about 20 feet away from me. > >(note that I do have co-workers who are sitting >closer to the device than I am, but I note no >changes in them) > >Marc > > > Vinny Pinto [hidden email] phone 301-694-1249 To see my informational websites and e-mail list groups, please go to: http://www.vinnypinto.us |
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I often sneeze when I am around a cell phone. My wife sneezes when she
first comes out into the sun. I think that the histamine release from the Mast cells is from the radiation. Andrew On Sep 25, 2006, at 7:51 PM, Vinny Pinto wrote: > Hi Marc: > > Yes, a woman in Australia who lives under power lines reported much > temporary sneezing for the first couple of weeks of using her device. > It has never happened for me, but sneezing is considered in many > healing traditions to be a very commonplace cleansing symptom, > particularly for toxins located in the head (i.e, brain, sinuses, > etc.). > > Strangely, several people have reported to me that their sense of > smell seems more acute now that they have one of these devices -- > this includes people who were not noticeably ES and who noticed no > other significant benefits from using the device. Perhaps the > funniest reports have been those of happy dreams and better sleep! > > with care, > --Vinny > > At 07:17 PM 9/25/2006, you wrote: >> Vinny, wasn't one of the testimonials about your >> devices that it caused a lot of sneezing initially? >> I noticed that I've been sneezing a lot at work today, >> with the device about 20 feet away from me. >> >> (note that I do have co-workers who are sitting >> closer to the device than I am, but I note no >> changes in them) >> >> Marc >> >> >> > > > Vinny Pinto > [hidden email] > > phone 301-694-1249 > > To see my informational websites and e-mail list groups, please go to: > http://www.vinnypinto.us > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > |
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Hi Andrew and folks:
What Andrew reports may be true for some people. The fact remains that temporary bouts of sneezing and/or runny nose are recognized as a very common detox or cleansing symptom by many traditions, including naturopathy, homeopathy, traditional Chinese and Korean acupuncture, traditonal Chinese medicine, many enargy healing traditions, many shamanic traditions and many herbal healing traditions. Much the same is true of temporary cold or flu symptoms, rashes, burning urine, or diarrhea. Incidentally, the Coherent Space Quantum Coherence device which Marc is discussing emits no radiation at all beyond the normal blackbody infrared radiation emitted by all objects at room temperature. with care, --Vinny At 08:27 PM 9/25/2006, you wrote: >I often sneeze when I am around a cell phone. My wife sneezes when she >first comes out into the sun. >I think that the histamine release from the Mast cells is from the >radiation. >Andrew >On Sep 25, 2006, at 7:51 PM, Vinny Pinto wrote: > > > Hi Marc: > > > > Yes, a woman in Australia who lives under power lines reported much > > temporary sneezing for the first couple of weeks of using her device. > > It has never happened for me, but sneezing is considered in many > > healing traditions to be a very commonplace cleansing symptom, > > particularly for toxins located in the head (i.e, brain, sinuses, > > etc.). > > > > Strangely, several people have reported to me that their sense of > > smell seems more acute now that they have one of these devices -- > > this includes people who were not noticeably ES and who noticed no > > other significant benefits from using the device. Perhaps the > > funniest reports have been those of happy dreams and better sleep! > > > > with care, > > --Vinny > > > > At 07:17 PM 9/25/2006, you wrote: > >> Vinny, wasn't one of the testimonials about your > >> devices that it caused a lot of sneezing initially? > >> I noticed that I've been sneezing a lot at work today, > >> with the device about 20 feet away from me. > >> > >> (note that I do have co-workers who are sitting > >> closer to the device than I am, but I note no > >> changes in them) > >> > >> Marc Vinny Pinto [hidden email] phone 301-694-1249 To see my informational websites and e-mail list groups, please go to: http://www.vinnypinto.us |
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Hi Marc:
Yes, and I personally suspect strongly, as both a scientist and intuitive (and healer) that these symptoms are detoxification or cleansing symptoms. If I were experiencing such symptoms, I would likely check the following things in my life and diet: * ensure that I was getting enough calcium and magensium in my diet * ensure that I was getting enough trace elements in my diet (I like Pascalite clay, myself...) * ensure that I was ingesting sufficient quantities of raw animal fats * ensure that I was ingesting some cooked animal fats such as found in really fatty fish (i.e., sardines, etc.) * ensure that I was ingesting MegaH or a similar H-based extremely low molecular weight antioxidant * ensure that I was ingesting antioxidants and Paleo probiotic microbes, as found in EM with care, --Vinny At 03:13 PM 9/25/2006, you wrote: > > Thanks for your report! > >By the way, it is interesting to me that the various >devices cause their own unique "adverse effects". >Although there is certainly some commonality -- for >example, this anxiety/chest pains/panic attack/chest >tightness symptoms have shown up for me repeatedly, >using both nutritional supplements and EMF protection >devices. I theorize that they are mobilizing some >toxins that my body is having a nasty reaction to. > >The variety of items which have caused these >particular symptoms are: > > * Modifilan - a seaweed extract supplement, supposedly > good for radiation and heavy metal detox. > > * sacred geometry medallions - an EMF protection > pendant that used to be sold by "Tools for > Wellness" > > * chia seeds - supposedly a good source of omega-3 > fatty acids and improved energy levels. > > * rejuvenizer pendant - a pendant from lighthealing.com > that is supposed to be good for EMF protection > and general health improvement. > > * Goji berries - supposed to be healthy. > > * Natural Cellular Defense - liquid zeolite for > detoxifying heavy metals. > >So your device is in good company, Vinny, although >I had to rather quickly abandon all of the above >things due to unnacceptable bad reactions... > >Marc > > Vinny Pinto [hidden email] phone 301-694-1249 To see my informational websites and e-mail list groups, please go to: http://www.vinnypinto.us [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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These are all allergens for me and many others. I found some local raw ewe cheese in a
farmers' market two months ago, and did well until last week when it started triggering heart arrhythmia. The only thing that never caused problems is beef, and grassfed organic isbest, except I have to search for fat to add to it.. William --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > In this area, I've only tried raw milk, cheese, > and eggs (no meat). I've certainly found additional benefits > from these, but only in small amounts (adverse reactions and weight > gain come with larger amounts) > > Marc > |
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> Yes, and I personally suspect strongly, as both a scientist and
> intuitive (and healer) that these symptoms are detoxification or > cleansing symptoms. If I were experiencing such symptoms, I would > likely check the following things in my life and diet: Yes, I'm doing *some* of these things. One thing I've been newly experimenting with is organic germanium, which is supposed to remove heavy metals from the body and also protect from radiation. So far, I'd say that this noticeably improves my tolerance for EMF. Here's an article which discusses this: http://www.positivehealth.com/PERMIT/ARTICLES/Nutrition/Germanium/chapter5.htm And here is where I bought a bottle of organic germanium: http://organicgermanium.net/ The big problem with this supplement is that it is quite expensive, although I've been getting good results so far at small doses. Not much new to report on the experimentation front -- I was shuffling things in and out at work today, trying to see what helps and what doesn't. So far, the coherent space device seems to be adding to the problem, so I've been keeping it at a distance (less than 20 feet, though). My coworkers appear to be unaffected, even though they are clearly in its radius of effectiveness. The Quantum Products are helping, as always. I've taken away the Springlife polarizers, as they accelerate my detox which makes me more sensitive to the Coherent Space Device. The D battery continues to help though, which continues to surprise me! Marc |
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Hi Marc:
Yes, I went thru a temporary bout of a little bit of some of these symptoms when I first started using my latest generation of Quantum Coherence devices. In fact, since my research and development laboratory -- which doubles at times as a bit of a production shop -- is located in a room on the second floor of our home (in fact, it is next to our bedroom), and since there are about a dozen of my Quantum Coherence devices, Gamma Effect devices, Negentropic Field Effect devices and the Violet Light of Peace devices running at any one time in the lab and also elsewhere in the house, living and working full-time in this house and the surrounding yard is a bit interesting! For myself and Sue (my wife), all of the serious cleansing or detox effects have long since passed, and it is mostly a joyride nowadays. What is funny, however, is when people come to visit and are unknowingly bathed in the field effects of all these devices while visiting. Even some people who had never considered themselves electrosensitive, and who had never even heard of the term, contact us later to ask what it is that is so "special" about our house, as they felt a major burst of clear energy and well-being for a day or two after leaving! One of our friends mentioned that his chronic migraines clear up whenever he visits us, or whenever he travels with one of us on hiking trips (Sue and I always carry portable verions of these devices wherever we go...). Usually, at that point, we hesitantly explain to them about the existence of the devices... with care, --Vinny At 12:11 AM 9/27/2006, you wrote: > > Yes, and I personally suspect strongly, as both a scientist and > > intuitive (and healer) that these symptoms are detoxification or > > cleansing symptoms. If I were experiencing such symptoms, I would > > likely check the following things in my life and diet: > >Yes, I'm doing *some* of these things. One thing I've been newly >experimenting with is organic germanium, which is supposed to >remove heavy metals from the body and also protect from radiation. >So far, I'd say that this noticeably improves my tolerance for >EMF. Here's an article which discusses this: > > >http://www.positivehealth.com/PERMIT/ARTICLES/Nutrition/Germanium/chapter5.htm > >And here is where I bought a bottle of organic germanium: > > http://organicgermanium.net/ > >The big problem with this supplement is that it is quite expensive, >although I've been getting good results so far at small doses. > >Not much new to report on the experimentation front -- I was shuffling >things in and out at work today, trying to see what helps and what >doesn't. So far, the coherent space device seems to be adding to the >problem, so I've been keeping it at a distance (less than 20 feet, >though). >My coworkers appear to be unaffected, even though they are clearly >in its radius of effectiveness. > >The Quantum Products are helping, as always. I've taken away the >Springlife polarizers, as they accelerate my detox which makes me >more sensitive to the Coherent Space Device. The D battery >continues to help though, which continues to surprise me! > >Marc > > > Vinny Pinto [hidden email] phone 301-694-1249 To see my informational websites and e-mail list groups, please go to: http://www.vinnypinto.us |
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