Why

> What is funny, however, is when people come to
> visit and are unknowingly bathed in the field effects of all these
> devices while visiting.

Heh, heh... my wife owns a yoga studio, and I have a couple devices
in place there, as I used to not be able to tolerate the dimmer
switches there. She also gets several comments from newcomers
about the "good energy" there. She tries to take credit for
it with the decorating, while I try to take credit for it with
the devices... :-)

Marc

Andrew, your wife's photo-sneezing is termed "Achoo Syndrome"

(so much for silly semantics - which I abhor - since reality goes way
beyond jargon, and jargon usually creates divisions (versus the
realization of the interconnectedness of things.

Minni


--- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@...> wrote:
>
> I often sneeze when I am around a cell phone. My wife sneezes when
she
> first comes out into the sun.
> I think that the histamine release from the Mast cells is from the
> radiation.
> Andrew
> On Sep 25, 2006, at 7:51 PM, Vinny Pinto wrote:
>
> > Hi Marc:
> >
> > Yes, a woman in Australia who lives under power lines reported
much
> > temporary sneezing for the first couple of weeks of using her
device.
> > It has never happened for me, but sneezing is considered in many
> > healing traditions to be a very commonplace cleansing symptom,
> > particularly for toxins located in the head (i.e, brain, sinuses,
> > etc.).
> >
> > Strangely, several people have reported to me that their sense of
> > smell seems more acute now that

Dear Maureen

There are at least three, and perhaps four, distinct conditions that
are nevertheless suffiently similar in symptoms for there to be a
risk that some people with one of the conditions will misdiagnose
themselves as suffering from one of the others:

(a) harmful bio-effects upon otherwise healthy people of sub-thermal
microwave radiation, and perhaps also power lines, leading (for
example) to campaigns by mums not to have phone masts sited near
schools

(b) EHS - electrical hyper-sensitity - a condition that makes
sufferes exceptionally vulnerable to harm from electromagnetic
phenomena that don't affect most people adversely

(c) deliberate "electonic harassment", using electromagnetic weapons,
which can include weapons capable of inflicting what I assume you
mean by "mind control" applications, perhaps indeed as part of
programme of non-consensual human-subject experimentation

(d) any other illness there may be unrelated to EM radiation or
static fields that has symptoms suffiently like any of the above for
there to be a risk of that illness being mistaken for one of the
above.

I don't know whether you find that analysis of the problem helpful.  
I hope so.

One solution to the problem is to develop diagnostic tests, which can
be used to ascertain whether this patient or that has the condition
he or she thinks she has, or one of the others.

If you consult the Coherent Space thread, you'll find out that I got
quite excited the other day when I read about Vinny's invention,
because I saw in it the potential for developing a diagnostic test to
distinguish EHS from e-harassment. Unfortunately, Vinny did not
welcome the dialogue I tried to open between him and some of the
researchers I rely upon.

John


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew McAfee" <amcafeerr@...>
> To: <eSens@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 1:27 AM
> Subject: [eSens] sneeze
>
>
> > I often sneeze when I am around a cell phone. My wife sneezes
when she
> > first comes out into the sun.
> > I think that the histamine release from the Mast cells is from
the
> > radiation.
> > Andrew
> > On Sep 25, 2006, at 7:51 PM, Vinny Pinto wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Marc:
> > >
> > > Yes, a woman in Australia who lives under power lines reported
much
> > > temporary sneezing for the first couple of weeks of using her
device.
> > > It has never happened for me, but sneezing is considered in many
> > > healing traditions to be a very commonplace cleansing symptom,
> > > particularly for toxins located in the head (i.e, brain,
sinuses,
> > > etc.).
> > >
> > > Strangely, several people have reported to me that their sense
of
> > > smell seems more acute now that they have one of these devices -
-
> > > this includes people who were not noticeably ES and who noticed
no
> > > other significant benefits from using the device. Perhaps the
> > > funniest reports have been those of happy dreams and better
sleep!
> > >
> > > with care,
> > > --Vinny
> > >
> > > At 07:17 PM 9/25/2006, you wrote:
> > >> Vinny, wasn't one of the testimonials about your
> > >> devices that it caused a lot of sneezing initially?
> > >> I noticed that I've been sneezing a lot at work today,
> > >> with the device about 20 feet away from me.
> > >>
> > >> (note that I do have co-workers who are sitting
> > >> closer to the device than I am, but I note no
> > >> changes in them)
> > >>
> > >> Marc
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > Vinny Pinto
> > > vinny@...
> > >
> > > phone 301-694-1249
> > >
> > > To see my informational websites and e-mail list groups, please
go to:
> > > http://www.vinnypinto.us
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/457 - Release Date:
26/09/06
> >
> >
>

I am skeptical of the ability of a mind control action, even by our government, unless the technology is very far advanced, and the subject is suseptible or leaning toward that end. Even though I am a very harsh critic of theUS government and its studies, and actions in this regard, the more stringent criticism is aimed at their complete lack of ability to safeguard the technology entrusted to them.And the tendancy to follow a good old boy network of access to anyone that can pony up the connections or the power.
In addition, the stonewalling, and as Bob Woodward's book notes, the state of denial that exists today is amazing. Using the Katrina disaster to foster a federalist view of government (non intervention) is still beyond my comprehension, and shows the ineptness of our government and their ability to really percieve the reality and need for actions. That is the reason for their slow intervention in the disaster, while people died, 4 days in Chertoff went to a bird flu seminar, and people in the Dome stuck.
I am a fan of this website for the clear and consise help I have seen on its pages, and the non flamers, etc that Vinny has noted also. I can assume we have Marc to thank for this, and I do.
I am also grateful to Shivani and her help and advice recently and I am about to purchase a meter. Knowing which one for the money is the problem for me.
I can empathise with those who believe they are being intentionally targeted. Since my small town is ringed with cell towers, and I live across the street and down the street from ham radio operators, she believes it may be fallout from them. All I want is the truth, as I cannot sustain any more pain and distress. With the small town hubris and grudges that seem never to expire, I want to believe in the goodness of man, even though it has been my experience that it is a hit and miss thing and count myself lucky to havefound help at this site. I have found that it is not my imagination as my family says, for the symptoms you mention, I have at times experienced.  
I have not been a sneezer so I cannot address that area of this subject.
I am still learning and I have not been through all the webmail yet, but I hope to get through it soon.
I wrote to the FCC regarding an amateur radio tower north of my home a couple of years ago. I recently found that they pulled the license due to questionable (illegal?) activity.
Another tower was constructed not 400 feet from this one on the opposite side of the highway. I do not know the ownership of this one.
Anyone else found this? The offending tower was on the property of a cop connected family. Intuition will not stand up in court, and it has its place,but I want the facts.
So thanks Esens members. Peggy
 
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 2:19 PM
Subject: [eSens] Re: sneeze - mind control


Dear Maureen

There are at least three, and perhaps four, distinct conditions that
are nevertheless suffiently similar in symptoms for there to be a
risk that some people with one of the conditions will misdiagnose
themselves as suffering from one of the others:

(a) harmful bio-effects upon otherwise healthy people of sub-thermal
microwave radiation, and perhaps also power lines, leading (for
example) to campaigns by mums not to have phone masts sited near
schools

(b) EHS - electrical hyper-sensitity - a condition that makes
sufferes exceptionally vulnerable to harm from electromagnetic
phenomena that don't affect most people adversely

(c) deliberate "electonic harassment", using electromagnetic weapons,
which can include weapons capable of inflicting what I assume you
mean by "mind control" applications, perhaps indeed as part of
programme of non-consensual human-subject experimentation

(d) any other illness there may be unrelated to EM radiation or
static fields that has symptoms suffiently like any of the above for
there to be a risk of that illness being mistaken for one of the
above.

I don't know whether you find that analysis of the problem helpful.
I hope so.

One solution to the problem is to develop diagnostic tests, which can
be used to ascertain whether this patient or that has the condition
he or she thinks she has, or one of the others.

If you consult the Coherent Space thread, you'll find out that I got
quite excited the other day when I read about Vinny's invention,
because I saw in it the potential for developing a diagnostic test to
distinguish EHS from e-harassment. Unfortunately, Vinny did not
welcome the dialogue I tried to open between him and some of the
researchers I rely upon.

John

--- In [hidden email], "m.a.norman" <m.a.norman@...> wrote:
>
> I don't know what your thoughts on this are. I've often wondered
> if things that are done to some people are towards control which I
> think is being perfected on unknowing experimentees. i.e. first
> over a period of time get a persons reaction to a thing that is
done,
> then use radio waves or other covert means to get the same
reaction.
> Which is in some way being monitored.
>
> If this is so this then it's already in place in many people. It
could when she
> > first comes out into the sun.
> > I think that the histamine release from the Mast cells is from
the
> > radiation.
> > Andrew
> > On Sep 25, 2006, at 7:51 PM, Vinny Pinto wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Marc:
> > >
> > > Yes, a woman in Australia who lives under power lines reported
much
> > > temporary sneezing for the first couple of weeks of using her
device.
> > > It has never happened for me, but sneezing is considered in many
> > > healing traditions to be a very commonplace cleansing symptom,
> > > particularly for toxins located in the head (i.e, brain,
sinuses,
> > > etc.).
> > >
> > > Strangely, several people have reported to me that their sense
of
> > > smell seems more acute now that they have one of these devices -
-
> > > this includes people who were not noticeably ES and who noticed
no
> > > other significant benefits from using the device. Perhaps the
> > > funniest reports have been those of happy dreams and better
sleep! go to: 26/09/06
> >
> >
>


 
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