What's your "acceptable" level of RF in uW/m2?

Okay, I know that we all have a true acceptable level of 0.0000000000 microwatts per square meter or volts per meter of wireless radiation. Unfortunately, it seems hard to find that in most open spaces these days!

Short of sleeping areas, shielded rooms, and treasured pockets of wilderness, do you all have an otherwise "acceptable" level of wireless radiation you're okay with?

I ask because I'm still in the process of trying to find a farm to spend a bit of time on, even if it's for a couple of months, to get out of the suburbs; however, even rural areas have towers here and there...some of you might remember a rant of mine from not too long back about how the place I wasgoing to go jumped from 0.1 to 10 uW/m2 over the course of less than a year, which seriously pi**ed me off...

But I realize that my demands for an essentially perfect location are seriously hindering my chances of getting anywhere at all. If I were talking about living somewhere for many months or years, I'd be strict about it; but for the short term? Is it worth missing out on the chance of fresh air and good people because of a little bit of RF?

So - what is, for each of you, a "little bit" that you're okay with? I knowwe're not talking ICNIRP "standards", here! The Bau Biologie standards rates between 0.1 and 10 uW/m2 as a "slight concern".

Thanks for your input!

R.

hi again, R,
 
i assume i do (have an amount of RF, etc, frequencies i tolerate).  I have never measured it tho.  even if i did, i couldn't tell you that the amount of RF,etc, i can take you will be able to take.  even what i can take varies daily.  i suspect also that all the stuff i am doing, combined,influences it and so if i even tweek (or forget to take/or do) something, that will make a difference sometimes.  there are places tho which i never react to, still taking that into consideration, and other places i almostalways react to.  is this how you are? 
 
when i am out riding, i go in and out of my tolerable frequency zones constantly and instantly feel the differences.  are you like that?  i have just assumed we all are.  but of course, this also assumes the areas each ES person travels to greatly varies as to frequencies which are present.  if i were to live in NYC i might not ever travel outside my reactive zone, for instance.  since starting my new vitamin regimen 2 months ago i am more tolerable everywhere, but before that i could react possibly 50 different times during a 45 min trip.
 
diane

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From: rticleone <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] What's your "acceptable" level of RF in uW/m2?
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Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 11:18 AM








Okay, I know that we all have a true acceptable level of 0.0000000000 microwatts per square meter or volts per meter of wireless radiation. Unfortunately, it seems hard to find that in most open spaces these days!

Short of sleeping areas, shielded rooms, and treasured pockets of wilderness, do you all have an otherwise "acceptable" level of wireless radiation you're okay with?

I ask because I'm still in the process of trying to find a farm to spend a bit of time on, even if it's for a couple of months, to get out of the suburbs; however, even rural areas have towers here and there...some of you might remember a rant of mine from not too long back about how the place I wasgoing to go jumped from 0.1 to 10 uW/m2 over the course of less than a year, which seriously pi**ed me off...

But I realize that my demands for an essentially perfect location are seriously hindering my chances of getting anywhere at all. If I were talking about living somewhere for many months or years, I'd be strict about it; but for the short term? Is it worth missing out on the chance of fresh air and good people because of a little bit of RF?

So - what is, for each of you, a "little bit" that you're okay with? I knowwe're not talking ICNIRP "standards", here! The Bau Biologie standards rates between 0.1 and 10 uW/m2 as a "slight concern".

Thanks for your input!

R.

















     

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It depends on frequency and modulation. I think if you get away from ELF
and dirty power your health can improve with RF of about .1 mW/m^2
And you can shield from there to about 100x lower usually.
Bill

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Hmm...yeah, I try to find places under 0.1 mw/m2 (our home, thankfully, andbackyard), but I wonder if I'll have to learn to cope with a bit more thanthat if I ever want to get out of these four walls.

On the other hand, it could be that a clean farm with slightly more ambientRF, but me living in a trailer run from 12V DC battery with no household wiring, etc., could be worth the trade.

It's hard for me to say about different places; I don't instantly react to things by default. Though I've always known that I detest how I feel in shopping malls, and I'd rather not spend any time in stores; I find them verydisorienting.

R.

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I don't know in exact measurements but there are even urban places around the world where I had no symptoms. As far as US goes the worst was Las Vegas, felt deathly ill there, did not know why, and the best with no symptoms, Lake Placid, NY.
 
 
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Hmm...yeah, I try to find places under 0.1 mw/m2 (our home, thankfully, andbackyard), but I wonder if I'll have to learn to cope with a bit more thanthat if I ever want to get out of these four walls.

On the other hand, it could be that a clean farm with slightly more ambientRF, but me living in a trailer run from 12V DC battery with no household wiring, etc., could be worth the trade.

It's hard for me to say about different places; I don't instantly react to things by default. Though I've always known that I detest how I feel in shopping malls, and I'd rather not spend any time in stores; I find them very disorienting.

R.

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Very interesting; I tend to stay the hell away from urban areas; just look at any cell tower map zoomed out; the saturation of towers looks like someone splattered ink all over any major city.

Now, I can imagine that Las Vegas would make many people feel bad; especially if you're talking about the casino district at night; all the insanity of it, the neon and fluorescent lights everywhere - you know those have GOT to be putting out some ugly dirty electricity!

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I don't know in exact measurements but there are evenurban places around the world where I had no symptoms. As far as US goes the worst was Las Vegas, felt deathly ill there, did not know why, and the best with no symptoms, Lake Placid, NY.

 

 

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From: rticleone <rticleone@yahoo. ca>

Subject: [eSens] Re: What's your "acceptable" level of RF in uW/m2?

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Received: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 11:27 AM



Hmm...yeah, I try to find places under 0.1 mw/m2 (our home, thankfully, andbackyard), but I wonder if I'll have to learn to cope with a bit more thanthat if I ever want to get out of these four walls.



On the other hand, it could be that a clean farm with slightly more ambientRF, but me living in a trailer run from 12V DC battery with no household wiring, etc., could be worth the trade.



It's hard for me to say about different places; I don't instantly react to things by default. Though I've always known that I detest how I feel in shopping malls, and I'd rather not spend any time in stores; I find them very disorienting.



R.



--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Bill Bruno <wbruno@...> wrote:

>

> It depends on frequency and modulation. I think if you get away from ELF

> and dirty power your health can improve with RF of about .1 mW/m^2

> And you can shield from there to about 100x lower usually.

> Bill

>

> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Evie <evie15422@. ..> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > hi again, R,

> >

> > i assume i do (have an amount of RF, etc, frequencies i tolerate). I have

> > never measured it tho. even if i did, i couldn't tell you that the amount

> > of RF,etc, i can take you will be able to take. even what i can take varies

> > daily. i suspect also that all the stuff i am doing, combined, influences

> > it and so if i even tweek (or forget to take/or do) something, that will

> > make a difference sometimes. there are places tho which i never react to,

> > still taking that into consideration, and other places i almost always react

> > to. is this how you are?

> >

> > when i am out riding, i go in and out of my tolerable frequency

> > zones constantly and instantly feel the differences. are you like that?i

> > have just assumed we all are. but of course, this also assumes the areas

> > each ES person travels to greatly varies as to frequencies which are

> > present. if i were to live in NYC i might not ever travel

> > outside my reactive zone, for instance. since starting my new vitamin

> > regimen 2 months ago i am more tolerable everywhere, but before that i could

> > react possibly 50 different times during a 45 min trip.

> >

> > diane

> >

> > --- On Wed, 7/15/09, rticleone <rticleone@. .. <rticleone%40yahoo. ca>>

> > wrote:

> >

> > From: rticleone <rticleone@. .. <rticleone%40yahoo. ca>>

> > Subject: [eSens] What's your "acceptable" level of RF in uW/m2?

> > To: esens@yahoogroups. com <esens%40yahoogroup s.com>

> > Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 11:18 AM

> >

> >

> > Okay, I know that we all have a true acceptable level of 0.0000000000

> > microwatts per square meter or volts per meter of wireless radiation.

> > Unfortunately, it seems hard to find that in most open spaces these days!

> >

> > Short of sleeping areas, shielded rooms, and treasured pockets of

> > wilderness, do you all have an otherwise "acceptable" level of wireless

> > radiation you're okay with?

> >

> > I ask because I'm still in the process of trying to find a farm to spend a

> > bit of time on, even if it's for a couple of months, to get out of the

> > suburbs; however, even rural areas have towers here and there...some ofyou

> > might remember a rant of mine from not too long back about how the place I

> > was going to go jumped from 0.1 to 10 uW/m2 over the course of less than a

> > year, which seriously pi**ed me off...

> >

> > But I realize that my demands for an essentially perfect location are

> > seriously hindering my chances of getting anywhere at all. If I were talking

> > about living somewhere for many months or years, I'd be strict about it; but

> > for the short term? Is it worth missing out on the chance of fresh air and

> > good people because of a little bit of RF?

> >

> > So - what is, for each of you, a "little bit" that you're okay with? I know

> > we're not talking ICNIRP "standards", here! The Bau Biologie standards rates

> > between 0.1 and 10 uW/m2 as a "slight concern".

> >

> > Thanks for your input!

> >

> > R.

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>



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