I am curious, how many have experienced negative effects of
fixed magnets? I tend to avoid them but never have had a clear experience with them. It is time we had a poll? I know there's a more scientific one circulating somewhere. I'd like to know how many react to the following. Please only note if you've had personal experience indicating tolerance or sensitivity. Bill corded phones stereo speakers sub-woofers head phones CRT TVs CRT computers LCD monitors printers/fax machines xerox machines incandescent lamps fluorescent lamps halogen lamps high voltage low voltage lamps/ transformer flash lights any cordless or mobile phone you don't react to? (frequency? analog/digital?) digital cameras video cameras door bell transformers dimmer switches blenders/mixers automatic dishwashers vacuum cleaners laundry machines refridgerators touch sensitive lights electronic calculators fish tanks radios strong magnets microwave ovens On 9/26/07, charles <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Sorry, but you do not know what you are talking about. > > The theme here is electrosensible people. > They react to everything that is magnetic. > > Sure, we know the earth magnetic field. > Overhere it is about 45.000 nT. > But all deviations from that, do have an impact on your body. > (ALL dowsers can tell you that!) > > Therapies with magnets are not used 8 hours long, but for much shorter > time > periods. > Most people sleep 8 hours a day. > When sleeping over a magnet will be felt, and does have an impact on > health. > > And electrosensibles cannot even stand short magnetic therapies. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Bitdefender > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "skrzn" <[hidden email]<WilliamSchnell%40operamail.com> > > > To: <[hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 13:16 > Subject: [eSens] Re: Magnet Therapy > > > Now hold on just a minute, Charles. > > The earth is a magnet. If it were not a magnet, there would be no > > life here. > > > > I have used a special therapeutic magnet to heal burns and remove > > itch of insect stings. > > > > Magnetic therapy works. > > > > William > > > > > > --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>, "charles" > <charles@...> wrote: > >> > >> Electrosensibles should stay away from everything that is magnetic. > >> > >> Especially magnetic therapies. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Hello Bill,
you still do not grasp what we are dealing with. We do have seperate fields here, separate frequencies, and mixtures of both. People may react very differently, depending on their *biological window*. People may not react to monile phone masts, but to some DECT phones, and still not react to other DECT phones. 30 kHz signals may revoke strong reactions. I have encountered problems with Samsung, some Philips, some Sony, plasma and LCD TV's Especially Philips LCD TVs with backlighting, that is fluorescent lamps behind the set. And halogen lamps. Dirty power in the electricity mains. Some halogen lamps may invoke strong 30 kHz frequencies in the mains electricity. I do not even mention the all-present magnetic fields. As well as the electrical fields. I know of persons who go awol from a 9 Volt blockbattery. The problem is, that electrosensibles may react to very, very tiny, hardly measurable, fields. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Bitdefender ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Bruno" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 16:50 Subject: [eSens] What do we react to >I am curious, how many have experienced negative effects of > fixed magnets? I tend to avoid them but never have had a clear > experience with them. > > It is time we had a poll? I know there's a more scientific one > circulating > somewhere. I'd like to know how many react to the following. Please only > note if you've had personal experience indicating tolerance or > sensitivity. > > Bill > > corded phones > stereo speakers > sub-woofers > head phones > CRT TVs > CRT computers > LCD monitors > printers/fax machines > xerox machines > incandescent lamps > fluorescent lamps > halogen lamps high voltage > low voltage lamps/ transformer > flash lights > any cordless or mobile phone you don't react to? (frequency? > analog/digital?) > digital cameras > video cameras > door bell transformers > dimmer switches > blenders/mixers > automatic dishwashers > vacuum cleaners > laundry machines > refridgerators > touch sensitive lights > electronic calculators > fish tanks > radios > strong magnets > microwave ovens > > > On 9/26/07, charles <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Sorry, but you do not know what you are talking about. >> >> The theme here is electrosensible people. >> They react to everything that is magnetic. >> >> Sure, we know the earth magnetic field. >> Overhere it is about 45.000 nT. >> But all deviations from that, do have an impact on your body. >> (ALL dowsers can tell you that!) >> >> Therapies with magnets are not used 8 hours long, but for much shorter >> time >> periods. >> Most people sleep 8 hours a day. >> When sleeping over a magnet will be felt, and does have an impact on >> health. >> >> And electrosensibles cannot even stand short magnetic therapies. >> >> Greetings, >> Charles Claessens >> member Verband Baubiologie >> www.milieuziektes.nl >> www.milieuziektes.be >> www.hetbitje.nl >> checked by Bitdefender >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "skrzn" >> <[hidden email]<WilliamSchnell%40operamail.com> >> > >> To: <[hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 13:16 >> Subject: [eSens] Re: Magnet Therapy >> >> > Now hold on just a minute, Charles. >> > The earth is a magnet. If it were not a magnet, there would be no >> > life here. >> > >> > I have used a special therapeutic magnet to heal burns and remove >> > itch of insect stings. >> > >> > Magnetic therapy works. >> > >> > William |
Absolutely I don't grasp it--I'm a scientist, and I'd like to grasp it.
I agree with what you're saying. So what determines the biological window? And isn't there some consistency to these windows? I realize that different LCD screens are different--that's why I did not mention cars. They react to a 9V battery even if it's not connected to anything? How far away do they have to be? For myself there's only a few items where I'm sure I react. Others I avoid to be cautious. Bill On 9/26/07, charles <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Hello Bill, > > you still do not grasp what we are dealing with. > > We do have seperate fields here, separate frequencies, and mixtures of > both. > > People may react very differently, depending on their *biological window*. > > People may not react to monile phone masts, but to some DECT phones, and > still not react to other DECT phones. > > 30 kHz signals may revoke strong reactions. > I have encountered problems with Samsung, some Philips, some Sony, plasma > and LCD TV's > Especially Philips LCD TVs with backlighting, that is fluorescent lamps > behind the set. > And halogen lamps. > > Dirty power in the electricity mains. > Some halogen lamps may invoke strong 30 kHz frequencies in the mains > electricity. > > I do not even mention the all-present magnetic fields. > As well as the electrical fields. > > I know of persons who go awol from a 9 Volt blockbattery. > > The problem is, that electrosensibles may react to very, very tiny, hardly > > measurable, fields. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Bitdefender > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Bruno" <[hidden email] <wbruno%40gmail.com>> > To: <[hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 16:50 > Subject: [eSens] What do we react to > > >I am curious, how many have experienced negative effects of > > fixed magnets? I tend to avoid them but never have had a clear > > experience with them. > > > > It is time we had a poll? I know there's a more scientific one > > circulating > > somewhere. I'd like to know how many react to the following. Please only > > note if you've had personal experience indicating tolerance or > > sensitivity. > > > > Bill > > > > corded phones > > stereo speakers > > sub-woofers > > head phones > > CRT TVs > > CRT computers > > LCD monitors > > printers/fax machines > > xerox machines > > incandescent lamps > > fluorescent lamps > > halogen lamps high voltage > > low voltage lamps/ transformer > > flash lights > > any cordless or mobile phone you don't react to? (frequency? > > analog/digital?) > > digital cameras > > video cameras > > door bell transformers > > dimmer switches > > blenders/mixers > > automatic dishwashers > > vacuum cleaners > > laundry machines > > refridgerators > > touch sensitive lights > > electronic calculators > > fish tanks > > radios > > strong magnets > > microwave ovens > > > > > > On 9/26/07, charles <[hidden email]<charles%40milieuziektes.be>> > wrote: > >> > >> Sorry, but you do not know what you are talking about. > >> > >> The theme here is electrosensible people. > >> They react to everything that is magnetic. > >> > >> Sure, we know the earth magnetic field. > >> Overhere it is about 45.000 nT. > >> But all deviations from that, do have an impact on your body. > >> (ALL dowsers can tell you that!) > >> > >> Therapies with magnets are not used 8 hours long, but for much shorter > >> time > >> periods. > >> Most people sleep 8 hours a day. > >> When sleeping over a magnet will be felt, and does have an impact on > >> health. > >> > >> And electrosensibles cannot even stand short magnetic therapies. > >> > >> Greetings, > >> Charles Claessens > >> member Verband Baubiologie > >> www.milieuziektes.nl > >> www.milieuziektes.be > >> www.hetbitje.nl > >> checked by Bitdefender > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "skrzn" > >> <[hidden email] <WilliamSchnell%40operamail.com> > <WilliamSchnell%40operamail.com> > >> > > >> To: <[hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com><eSens%40yahoogroup > s.com>> > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 13:16 > >> Subject: [eSens] Re: Magnet Therapy > >> > >> > Now hold on just a minute, Charles. > >> > The earth is a magnet. If it were not a magnet, there would be no > >> > life here. > >> > > >> > I have used a special therapeutic magnet to heal burns and remove > >> > itch of insect stings. > >> > > >> > Magnetic therapy works. > >> > > >> > William > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> Please only note if you've had personal experience indicating
> tolerance or sensitivity. On your list, here are the things that I have noted bad reactions to in the past: > corded phones > head phones > CRT TVs > CRT computers > LCD monitors > incandescent lamps > fluorescent lamps > digital cameras > dimmer switches > strong magnets Also, I could add to that list (again from my own experiences): laptop computers, laptop computer wi-fi radio, power lines above the street, cable box, ion generator, plasma TV, cellphone |
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