Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms triggered by exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my husband welcomed me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took us a while to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused by proximity to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near -- as soon as I got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we usually enjoy each other's company.) I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my hands and legs for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos, surfs wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF transmitter? And, if so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect? Cara |
Yes - but only when I first became ES about nine years ago. I don't
really notince it any more as I am not as senstive as I was. I think the human body can store excess charge and can become virtually a walking antenna - hence the reaction. I once read that one good way of releasing excess charge in the body was to run around (or walk!) on wet grass for a while. I have tried this a couple of times and have found that it works really well...also for other reactions such as chemical exposure problems. Sarah -----Original Message----- From: Cara [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Friday, 21 January 2005 2:42 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [eSens] Weird question Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms triggered by exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my husband welcomed me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took us a while to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused by proximity to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near -- as soon as I got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we usually enjoy each other's company.) I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my hands and legs for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos, surfs wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF transmitter? And, if so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect? Cara Yahoo! Groups Links |
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> I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my hands and legs
> for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos, surfs > wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF transmitter? And, if > so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect? Well, I suppose you could use some EMF protection devices yourself, so you're not bringing it home with you. But no, I've never really experienced this problem by exposure to others. Marc |
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I should add that it is necessary to have bare feet!
Sarah Yes - but only when I first became ES about nine years ago. I don't really notince it any more as I am not as senstive as I was. I think the human body can store excess charge and can become virtually a walking antenna - hence the reaction. I once read that one good way of releasing excess charge in the body was to run around (or walk!) on wet grass for a while. I have tried this a couple of times and have found that it works really well...also for other reactions such as chemical exposure problems. Sarah -----Original Message----- From: Cara [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Friday, 21 January 2005 2:42 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [eSens] Weird question Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms triggered by exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my husband welcomed me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took us a while to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused by proximity to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near -- as soon as I got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we usually enjoy each other's company.) I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my hands and legs for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos, surfs wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF transmitter? And, if so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect? Cara Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Hallo, I know comparable things since many years. For me it is not only a trigger to stimulate mind games including voices but also creating pain and stress by psychic attacks as I call them. To my experience shielding can weaken also this attacks. Randolf --- In [hidden email], "Cara" <cara_evangelista@h...> wrote: > > Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms triggered by > exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my husband welcomed > me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took us a while > to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused by proximity > to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near -- as soon as I > got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we usually enjoy > each other's company.) > > I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my hands and legs > for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos, surfs > wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF transmitter? And, if > so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect? > > Cara |
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Yep, just like static build up, the radiation will saturate you until
you flush it out somehow; salt bath, a swim in the ocean, a grounding barefoot walk on earth, grass or in the woods, etc. Our bodies are more conductive than many materials and will be a lightening rod for much of the stuff flying around, especially the wave lengths that match our body's dimensions and frequencies. My understanding of DNA is that it is primarily an array for Electromagnetic communications. Ground yourself at work with grounding cords and hopefully your outlets are correctly grounded or you may pick up a bunch of crap from the outlet or area systems. A nice sea salt bath after work wouldn't be so bad, would it? Actually, thanks for reminding me to take more of them. Andrew On Jan 20, 2005, at 10:42 PM, Cara wrote: > > > Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms > triggered by > exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my husband > welcomed > me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took us a > while > to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused by > proximity > to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near -- as > soon as I > got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we > usually enjoy > each other's company.) > > I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my > hands and legs > for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos, > surfs > wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF > transmitter? And, if > so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect? > > Cara > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > |
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Thanks Andrew for telling us about sea salt baths - great idea - no I
know why I'm always trying to get to the beach and into the sea. This would also no doubt be a helpful method of 'cleansing' if one has been around negative emotional energy as well........perhaps also carried by the electrical energy of the body in the same way that RF radiation carries information...or maybe that's too much of a long shot! Sarah -----Original Message----- From: Andrew McAfee [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Friday, 21 January 2005 4:14 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [eSens] Weird question Yep, just like static build up, the radiation will saturate you until you flush it out somehow; salt bath, a swim in the ocean, a grounding barefoot walk on earth, grass or in the woods, etc. Our bodies are more conductive than many materials and will be a lightening rod for much of the stuff flying around, especially the wave lengths that match our body's dimensions and frequencies. My understanding of DNA is that it is primarily an array for Electromagnetic communications. Ground yourself at work with grounding cords and hopefully your outlets are correctly grounded or you may pick up a bunch of crap from the outlet or area systems. A nice sea salt bath after work wouldn't be so bad, would it? Actually, thanks for reminding me to take more of them. Andrew On Jan 20, 2005, at 10:42 PM, Cara wrote: > > > Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms > triggered by > exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my husband > welcomed > me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took us a > while > to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused by > proximity > to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near -- as > soon as I > got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we > usually enjoy > each other's company.) > > I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my > hands and legs > for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos, > surfs > wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF > transmitter? And, if > so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect? > > Cara > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links |
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My Shiatsu therapist asks me to walk a lot, especially right after a therapy
session, to get my natural energy flows moving smoothly. Your comments about walking in bare feet give new meaning to how I can enjoy my walks in bare feet in the summer. It not only grounds my body, but balances energy naturally, so highly beneficial for balancing my ES symptoms. Glenn >From: "Benson, Sarah (Sen L. Allison)" <[hidden email]> >Reply-To: [hidden email] >To: <[hidden email]> >Subject: RE: [eSens] Weird question >Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:31:49 +1100 > >I should add that it is necessary to have bare feet! > >Sarah > > > >Yes - but only when I first became ES about nine years ago. I don't >really notince it any more as I am not as senstive as I was. I think >the human body can store excess charge and can become virtually a >walking antenna - hence the reaction. I once read that one good way of >releasing excess charge in the body was to run around (or walk!) on wet >grass for a while. I have tried this a couple of times and have found >that it works really well...also for other reactions such as chemical >exposure problems. > >Sarah > >-----Original Message----- >From: Cara [mailto:[hidden email]] >Sent: Friday, 21 January 2005 2:42 PM >To: [hidden email] >Subject: [eSens] Weird question > > > > >Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms >triggered by >exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my husband >welcomed >me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took us a >while >to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused by >proximity >to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near -- as >soon as I >got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we usually >enjoy >each other's company.) > >I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my hands >and legs >for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos, surfs > >wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF >transmitter? And, if >so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect? > >Cara > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > |
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Great to know about this grounding effect in bathtub with salt water. That
explains why my epson salt baths feel so beneficial. I combine the bath with visualizations, that the bad energy in my body is being cleaned out of my chakras, in streams of bad energy flowing off me. Then I imagine my cleanly energized body feeling strong and vibrant (becoming more resistant to ES). It has had a dramatic effect on my overall well-being, when doing it every two or three days. Glenn >From: "Benson, Sarah (Sen L. Allison)" <[hidden email]> >Reply-To: [hidden email] >To: <[hidden email]> >Subject: RE: [eSens] Weird question >Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:21:51 +1100 > >Thanks Andrew for telling us about sea salt baths - great idea - no I >know why I'm always trying to get to the beach and into the sea. This >would also no doubt be a helpful method of 'cleansing' if one has been >around negative emotional energy as well........perhaps also carried by >the electrical energy of the body in the same way that RF radiation >carries information...or maybe that's too much of a long shot! > >Sarah > >-----Original Message----- >From: Andrew McAfee [mailto:[hidden email]] >Sent: Friday, 21 January 2005 4:14 PM >To: [hidden email] >Subject: Re: [eSens] Weird question > > > >Yep, just like static build up, the radiation will saturate you until >you flush it out somehow; salt bath, a swim in the ocean, a grounding >barefoot walk on earth, grass or in the woods, etc. Our bodies are more >conductive than many materials and will be a lightening rod for much of >the stuff flying around, especially the wave lengths that match our >body's dimensions and frequencies. My understanding of DNA is that it >is primarily an array for Electromagnetic communications. Ground >yourself at work with grounding cords and hopefully your outlets >are correctly grounded or you may pick up a bunch of crap from the >outlet or area systems. >A nice sea salt bath after work wouldn't be so bad, would it? Actually, >thanks for reminding me to take more of them. Andrew On Jan 20, 2005, at >10:42 PM, Cara wrote: > > > > > > > Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms > > triggered by > > exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my husband > > welcomed > > me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took us a > > while > > to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused by > > proximity > > to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near -- as > > soon as I > > got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we > > usually enjoy > > each other's company.) > > > > I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my > > hands and legs > > for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos, > > surfs > > wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF > > transmitter? And, if > > so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect? > > > > Cara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > |
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I also find it easier to meditate in the bath than anywhere else! What
funny confessions come out on this list. Have a nice weekend everyone.. Sarah -----Original Message----- From: Glenn Coleman [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Friday, 21 January 2005 5:49 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: RE: [eSens] Weird question Great to know about this grounding effect in bathtub with salt water. That explains why my epson salt baths feel so beneficial. I combine the bath with visualizations, that the bad energy in my body is being cleaned out of my chakras, in streams of bad energy flowing off me. Then I imagine my cleanly energized body feeling strong and vibrant (becoming more resistant to ES). It has had a dramatic effect on my overall well-being, when doing it every two or three days. Glenn >From: "Benson, Sarah (Sen L. Allison)" <[hidden email]> >Reply-To: [hidden email] >To: <[hidden email]> >Subject: RE: [eSens] Weird question >Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:21:51 +1100 > >Thanks Andrew for telling us about sea salt baths - great idea - no I >know why I'm always trying to get to the beach and into the sea. This >would also no doubt be a helpful method of 'cleansing' if one has been >around negative emotional energy as well........perhaps also carried by >the electrical energy of the body in the same way that RF radiation >carries information...or maybe that's too much of a long shot! > >Sarah > >-----Original Message----- >From: Andrew McAfee [mailto:[hidden email]] >Sent: Friday, 21 January 2005 4:14 PM >To: [hidden email] >Subject: Re: [eSens] Weird question > > > >Yep, just like static build up, the radiation will saturate you until >you flush it out somehow; salt bath, a swim in the ocean, a grounding >barefoot walk on earth, grass or in the woods, etc. Our bodies are more >conductive than many materials and will be a lightening rod for much of >the stuff flying around, especially the wave lengths that match our >body's dimensions and frequencies. My understanding of DNA is that it >is primarily an array for Electromagnetic communications. Ground >yourself at work with grounding cords and hopefully your outlets are >correctly grounded or you may pick up a bunch of crap from the outlet >or area systems. A nice sea salt bath after work wouldn't be so bad, >would it? Actually, thanks for reminding me to take more of them. >Andrew On Jan 20, 2005, at 10:42 PM, Cara wrote: > > > > > > > Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms > > triggered by exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, > > my husband welcomed > > me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took us a > > while > > to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused by > > proximity > > to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near -- as > > soon as I > > got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we > > usually enjoy > > each other's company.) > > > > I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my > > hands and legs for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the > > company uses Treos, surfs > > wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF > > transmitter? And, if > > so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect? > > > > Cara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Hello,
another explanation could be: The body tension of the other person can be extremely high, especially when they have worked in a radiated surrounding all day. This high body tension, which can be as high as 55.000 mV (as I have measured) or even higher, can be percepted by an electrosensible person. This can also have an impact on the aura of the other person, which can be percepted by the electrosensible, which is by nature very sensitive. This very sensitive perception, as I have learned, can go so far, as that those sensibles felt the oncoming tsunamis or earth quackes. They felt vibrations and as the feeling as if they were completely under some kind of electricity. The latter brings up another idea. If those sensibles felt the upcoming events as some kind of frequencies, it may be possible that those naughty Army men were playing at HAARP, and that something went astray. One wonders. It may be farfetched, but it is not impossible. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cara" <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 4:42 AM > Subject: [eSens] Weird question > > > > > > > > Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms > triggered by > > exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my husband > welcomed > > me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took us a > > to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused by > proximity > > to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near -- as soon > as I > > got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we usually > enjoy > > each other's company.) > > > > I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my hands > and legs > > for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos, surfs > > wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF transmitter? > And, if > > so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect? > > > > Cara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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I forgot to mention to ground your car with a grounding cord
http://www.lessemf.com/personal.html You can build up enough static on the way home from work to cause those symptoms. Andrew On Jan 21, 2005, at 1:21 AM, Benson, Sarah (Sen L. Allison) wrote: > > Thanks Andrew for telling us about sea salt baths - great idea - no I > know why I'm always trying to get to the beach and into the sea. This > would also no doubt be a helpful method of 'cleansing' if one has been > around negative emotional energy as well........perhaps also carried by > the electrical energy of the body in the same way that RF radiation > carries information...or maybe that's too much of a long shot! > > Sarah > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew McAfee [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: Friday, 21 January 2005 4:14 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [eSens] Weird question > > > > Yep, just like static build up, the radiation will saturate you until > you flush it out somehow; salt bath, a swim in the ocean, a grounding > barefoot walk on earth, grass or in the woods, etc. Our bodies are more > conductive than many materials and will be a lightening rod for much of > the stuff flying around, especially the wave lengths that match our > body's dimensions and frequencies. My understanding of DNA is that it > is primarily an array for Electromagnetic communications. Ground > yourself at work with grounding cords and hopefully your outlets > are correctly grounded or you may pick up a bunch of crap from the > outlet or area systems. > A nice sea salt bath after work wouldn't be so bad, would it? Actually, > thanks for reminding me to take more of them. Andrew On Jan 20, 2005, > at > 10:42 PM, Cara wrote: > >> >> >> Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms >> triggered by >> exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my husband >> welcomed >> me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took us a >> while >> to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused by >> proximity >> to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near -- as >> soon as I >> got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we >> usually enjoy >> each other's company.) >> >> I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my >> hands and legs >> for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos, >> surfs >> wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF >> transmitter? And, if >> so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect? >> >> Cara >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > |
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Or they were playing with HAARP and it went exactly as planned.
On Jan 21, 2005, at 8:04 AM, Stichting Milieuziektes wrote: > > Hello, > > another explanation could be: > > The body tension of the other person can be extremely high, especially > when > they have worked in a radiated surrounding all day. > This high body tension, which can be as high as 55.000 mV (as I have > measured) or even higher, can be percepted by an electrosensible > person. > > This can also have an impact on the aura of the other person, which > can be > percepted by the electrosensible, which is by nature very sensitive. > > This very sensitive perception, as I have learned, can go so far, as > that > those sensibles felt the oncoming tsunamis or earth quackes. > They felt vibrations and as the feeling as if they were completely > under > some kind of electricity. > > The latter brings up another idea. > If those sensibles felt the upcoming events as some kind of > frequencies, it > may be possible that those naughty Army men were playing at HAARP, and > that > something went astray. > One wonders. > It may be farfetched, but it is not impossible. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Norton Antivirus > > > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Cara" <[hidden email]> >> To: <[hidden email]> >> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 4:42 AM >> Subject: [eSens] Weird question >> >> >>> >>> >>> Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms >> triggered by >>> exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my husband >> welcomed >>> me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took us a > while >>> to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused by >> proximity >>> to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near -- as > soon >> as I >>> got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we >>> usually >> enjoy >>> each other's company.) >>> >>> I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my >>> hands >> and legs >>> for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos, >>> surfs >>> wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF > transmitter? >> And, if >>> so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect? >>> >>> Cara >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > |
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> I forgot to mention to ground your car with a grounding cord
> http://www.lessemf.com/personal.html > You can build up enough static on the way home from work to cause those > symptoms. This is one area where I found an EMF protection device to make me worse -- when using the Quantum "Auto Clear" unit in my car, I found that whenever I got out of the car, I would get a huge shock touching the car door! I later switched shoes to ones which have "grounding" soles, and the problem went away. And then later I just used a Springlife OM pendant, which doesn't have this problem. Marc |
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These have been the most fascinating discussions (for me break-throughs) in
better understanding ES symptoms. I almost always feel very ill and get my worst ES symptoms if I talk face to face with people for extended periods of time (30 minutes or more). I never linked it to ES since I had no logical explanation, but I had suspected that it was an energy problem. I also noticed that under certain circumstances that I didn't feel very much symptoms when talking for a long time face to face, but my environment was different (probably better grounded). This has been my phobia about going back to work, to have these extreme ES symptoms when attempting to meet with people. This opens up new opportunity to experiment with grounding through salt bathes, etc, to see how it changes my tolerance when talking face to face with people. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you Glenn >From: "Stichting Milieuziektes" <[hidden email]> >Reply-To: [hidden email] >To: <[hidden email]> >Subject: Re: [eSens] Weird question >Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:04:34 +0100 > >Hello, > >another explanation could be: > >The body tension of the other person can be extremely high, especially when >they have worked in a radiated surrounding all day. >This high body tension, which can be as high as 55.000 mV (as I have >measured) or even higher, can be percepted by an electrosensible person. > >This can also have an impact on the aura of the other person, which can be >percepted by the electrosensible, which is by nature very sensitive. > >This very sensitive perception, as I have learned, can go so far, as that >those sensibles felt the oncoming tsunamis or earth quackes. >They felt vibrations and as the feeling as if they were completely under >some kind of electricity. > >The latter brings up another idea. >If those sensibles felt the upcoming events as some kind of frequencies, it >may be possible that those naughty Army men were playing at HAARP, and that >something went astray. >One wonders. >It may be farfetched, but it is not impossible. > >Greetings, >Charles Claessens >member Verband Baubiologie >www.milieuziektes.nl >www.hetbitje.nl >checked by Norton Antivirus > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Cara" <[hidden email]> > > To: <[hidden email]> > > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 4:42 AM > > Subject: [eSens] Weird question > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms > > triggered by > > > exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my husband > > welcomed > > > me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took us a >while > > > to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused by > > proximity > > > to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near -- as >soon > > as I > > > got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we >usually > > enjoy > > > each other's company.) > > > > > > I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my >hands > > and legs > > > for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos, >surfs > > > wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF >transmitter? > > And, if > > > so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect? > > > > > > Cara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
In order to get lower body tensions, a grounding is good.
Showers before going to bed is also good. Schindeles Mineralien is also good for building down the body tension. (It contains silicea plus a great number of minerals) Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Coleman" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 17:10 Subject: Re: [eSens] Weird question > > These have been the most fascinating discussions (for me break-throughs) in > better understanding ES symptoms. > > I almost always feel very ill and get my worst ES symptoms if I talk face to > face with people for extended periods of time (30 minutes or more). I never > linked it to ES since I had no logical explanation, but I had suspected that > it was an energy problem. I also noticed that under certain circumstances > that I didn't feel very much symptoms when talking for a long time face to > face, but my environment was different (probably better grounded). > > This has been my phobia about going back to work, to have these extreme ES > symptoms when attempting to meet with people. > > This opens up new opportunity to experiment with grounding through salt > bathes, etc, to see how it changes my tolerance when talking face to face > with people. > > Thank you, Thank you, Thank you > > Glenn > > >From: "Stichting Milieuziektes" <[hidden email]> > >Reply-To: [hidden email] > >To: <[hidden email]> > >Subject: Re: [eSens] Weird question > >Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:04:34 +0100 > > > >Hello, > > > >another explanation could be: > > > >The body tension of the other person can be extremely high, especially > >they have worked in a radiated surrounding all day. > >This high body tension, which can be as high as 55.000 mV (as I have > >measured) or even higher, can be percepted by an electrosensible person. > > > >This can also have an impact on the aura of the other person, which can be > >percepted by the electrosensible, which is by nature very sensitive. > > > >This very sensitive perception, as I have learned, can go so far, as that > >those sensibles felt the oncoming tsunamis or earth quackes. > >They felt vibrations and as the feeling as if they were completely under > >some kind of electricity. > > > >The latter brings up another idea. > >If those sensibles felt the upcoming events as some kind of frequencies, it > >may be possible that those naughty Army men were playing at HAARP, and that > >something went astray. > >One wonders. > >It may be farfetched, but it is not impossible. > > > >Greetings, > >Charles Claessens > >member Verband Baubiologie > >www.milieuziektes.nl > >www.hetbitje.nl > >checked by Norton Antivirus > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Cara" <[hidden email]> > > > To: <[hidden email]> > > > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 4:42 AM > > > Subject: [eSens] Weird question > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms > > > triggered by > > > > exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my husband > > > welcomed > > > > me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took us a > >while > > > > to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused > > > proximity > > > > to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near -- as > >soon > > > as I > > > > got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we > >usually > > > enjoy > > > > each other's company.) > > > > > > > > I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my > >hands > > > and legs > > > > for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos, > >surfs > > > > wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF > >transmitter? > > > And, if > > > > so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect? > > > > > > > > Cara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > |
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--- In [hidden email], "Cara" <cara_evangelista@h...> wrote: > > Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms > triggered by exposure to a *person*? > Oh, yeah. People with static buildup have caused this for me and getting them to go 'feet bare' in my vicinity works well. You could also invest in some grounding work shoes to keep your charge balanced with the local situation. I bought some at Red Wing Shoes after Marc mentioned them. (Thx, Marc!) People who have a lot of emotional 'charge', from having been stressed at work, being angry, or whatever, can also do this to me if I'm having a low day. Or folks who've been around a chemical I'm sensitive to can do this, too. > > Could my body really be acting like an EMF transmitter? And, if > so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect? > The human body does have EM fields associated with it, and the hands and feet are particularly reactive to these fields as well as being good transmitters of them. These fields are easily detectable by other peoples' systems within a few feet, creating responses even in non-ES ppl though they may not be consciously aware of their response. You can absorb and store a lot of information from your day in your body's field, reconfiguring it. Very sensitive folk can be highly affected by this information/reconfiguration. Your system's field may have been entrained by EMF around it, imprinting you with the signal qualities you've been heavily exposed, or are susceptible, to. This EM 'information imprint' can cause a reaction in someone sensitive to that information. I find what the other list members have said help with this situation work for me, too. Beau |
Another explanation:
Look at: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina162.html There one can see the Resonant Field Imaging. (It is one of the best systems for determining auras!) . It is an american system, where on 40 points around the body frequencies are measured, which are then put into a computer programm, which than gives a color and explanation of the corresponding aura's. Those frequencies lie in the MHz region. They are measured with a frequency counter. If the health or emotion changes, the frequencies change accordingly. So, ES people can *sense* those auras or frequency fields. Some people can feel auras, some can see them, and others can feel and see them at the same time. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beau" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 19:54 Subject: [eSens] Re: Weird question > > > --- In [hidden email], "Cara" <cara_evangelista@h...> wrote: > > > > Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms > > triggered by exposure to a *person*? > > > > Oh, yeah. People with static buildup have caused this for me and > getting them to go 'feet bare' in my vicinity works well. You could > also invest in some grounding work shoes to keep your charge balanced > with the local situation. I bought some at Red Wing Shoes after Marc > mentioned them. (Thx, Marc!) > > People who have a lot of emotional 'charge', from having been stressed > at work, being angry, or whatever, can also do this to me if I'm > having a low day. > > Or folks who've been around a chemical I'm sensitive to can do this, > too. > > > > > Could my body really be acting like an EMF transmitter? And, if > > so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect? > > > > The human body does have EM fields associated with it, and the hands > and feet are particularly reactive to these fields as well as being > good transmitters of them. These fields are easily detectable by > other peoples' systems within a few feet, creating responses even in > non-ES ppl though they may not be consciously aware of their response. > > You can absorb and store a lot of information from your day in your > body's field, reconfiguring it. Very sensitive folk can be highly > affected by this information/reconfiguration. Your system's field may > have been entrained by EMF around it, imprinting you with the signal > qualities you've been heavily exposed, or are susceptible, to. This > EM 'information imprint' can cause a reaction in someone sensitive to > that information. > > I find what the other list members have said help with this situation > work for me, too. > > Beau > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > |
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This theory would be easy to test. Just use a body voltage sensor (see
http://www.lessemf.com/es.html#183 if you need such a device). See if your body voltage level corresponds to how sensitive your husband is to you. Higher body voltage = greater sensitivity? If this is true, it will be very easy to correct. Emil At 02:04 PM 1/21/2005, you wrote: >Hello, > >another explanation could be: > >The body tension of the other person can be extremely high, especially when >they have worked in a radiated surrounding all day. >This high body tension, which can be as high as 55.000 mV (as I have >measured) or even higher, can be percepted by an electrosensible person. > >This can also have an impact on the aura of the other person, which can be >percepted by the electrosensible, which is by nature very sensitive. > >This very sensitive perception, as I have learned, can go so far, as that >those sensibles felt the oncoming tsunamis or earth quackes. >They felt vibrations and as the feeling as if they were completely under >some kind of electricity. > >The latter brings up another idea. >If those sensibles felt the upcoming events as some kind of frequencies, it >may be possible that those naughty Army men were playing at HAARP, and that >something went astray. >One wonders. >It may be farfetched, but it is not impossible. > >Greetings, >Charles Claessens >member Verband Baubiologie >www.milieuziektes.nl >www.hetbitje.nl >checked by Norton Antivirus > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Cara" <[hidden email]> > > To: <[hidden email]> > > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 4:42 AM > > Subject: [eSens] Weird question > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms > > triggered by > > > exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my husband > > welcomed > > > me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. Took us a >while > > > to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused by > > proximity > > > to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near -- as >soon > > as I > > > got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we usually > > enjoy > > > each other's company.) > > > > > > I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my hands > > and legs > > > for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos, surfs > > > wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF >transmitter? > > And, if > > > so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect? > > > > > > Cara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > |
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Glenn, did you notice anything pertaining to your eyes when you were becoming symptomatic in the face-to-face situations? I've noticed a strain on my vision, like someone being too close or a poorly lighted environment (too dim or too bright) can make me more sensitive. Beau --- In [hidden email], "Glenn Coleman" <glennhcoleman@h...> wrote: > These have been the most fascinating discussions (for me break-throughs) in > better understanding ES symptoms. > > I almost always feel very ill and get my worst ES symptoms if I talk face to > face with people for extended periods of time (30 minutes or more). I never > linked it to ES since I had no logical explanation, but I had suspected that > it was an energy problem. I also noticed that under certain circumstances > that I didn't feel very much symptoms when talking for a long time face to > face, but my environment was different (probably better grounded). > > This has been my phobia about going back to work, to have these extreme ES > symptoms when attempting to meet with people. > > This opens up new opportunity to experiment with grounding through salt > bathes, etc, to see how it changes my tolerance when talking face to face > with people. > > Thank you, Thank you, Thank you > > Glenn > > >From: "Stichting Milieuziektes" <milieuziektes@s...> > >Reply-To: [hidden email] > >To: <[hidden email]> > >Subject: Re: [eSens] Weird question > >Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:04:34 +0100 > > > >Hello, > > > >another explanation could be: > > > >The body tension of the other person can be extremely high, > >they have worked in a radiated surrounding all day. > >This high body tension, which can be as high as 55.000 mV (as I have > >measured) or even higher, can be percepted by an electrosensible person. > > > >This can also have an impact on the aura of the other person, which can be > >percepted by the electrosensible, which is by nature very sensitive. > > > >This very sensitive perception, as I have learned, can go so far, as that > >those sensibles felt the oncoming tsunamis or earth quackes. > >They felt vibrations and as the feeling as if they were completely under > >some kind of electricity. > > > >The latter brings up another idea. > >If those sensibles felt the upcoming events as some kind of frequencies, it > >may be possible that those naughty Army men were playing at HAARP, and that > >something went astray. > >One wonders. > >It may be farfetched, but it is not impossible. > > > >Greetings, > >Charles Claessens > >member Verband Baubiologie > >www.milieuziektes.nl > >www.hetbitje.nl > >checked by Norton Antivirus > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Cara" <cara_evangelista@h...> > > > To: <[hidden email]> > > > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 4:42 AM > > > Subject: [eSens] Weird question > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a strange one: Have anyone on this list had their symptoms > > > triggered by > > > > exposure to a *person*? Today, after a low-symptom day, my husband > > > welcomed > > > > me home from work and *instantly* experienced ES symptoms. > >while > > > > to recognize the trigger, but then we realized his pain was caused by > > > proximity > > > > to *me*. Blindfolded, he could tell which foot my hand was near -- as > >soon > > > as I > > > > got within 2 feet of him, he felt crummy. (No jokes please -- we > >usually > > > enjoy > > > > each other's company.) > > > > > > > > I work at a computer all day and even I can feel the buzzing in my > >hands > > > and legs > > > > for hours after I leave work. (Everyone in the company uses Treos, > >surfs > > > > wirelessly, etc.) Could my body really be acting like an EMF > >transmitter? > > > And, if > > > > so, what can I do to prevent or reduce this effect? > > > > > > > > Cara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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