Verilux Happy Light fluorescant bulb

Hi all,

I've been learning about how essential an exposure to full spectrum
light is every day and have been looking for ideas to get that in my
home this winter, as I live pretty far north and get very cold outside!
   the one I have come across is the Verilux Happy light---but it has a
26 watt fluorescant bulb and I am very Esens......has anyone tried
similiar size bulbs?

ny other products you may have heard of for this purpose?  Thanks!

Debbie

Debbie, Fluorescent bulbs outgass Mercury! NOt a good idea. There are full spectrum bulbsthat are incandescent. Much much safer.And if a fluorescent bulb gets broken, Haz Matt clean up!  Lizzie
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      Hi all,



I've been learning about how essential an exposure to full spectrum

light is every day and have been looking for ideas to get that in my

home this winter, as I live pretty far north and get very cold outside!

   the one I have come across is the Verilux Happy light---but it has a

26 watt fluorescant bulb and I am very Esens......has anyone tried

similiar size bulbs?



ny other products you may have heard of for this purpose?  Thanks!



Debbie





   
     

   
   






       

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Hi Debbie,

Fluorescent bulbs should be avoided because of dirty electicity and mercury:

http://www.magdahavas.com/category/electrosmog-exposure/lighting/

Use full-spectum LED bulbs instead. They are more expensive, but way better.

Rolf  


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hi, debbie.  i'm new here but i couldn't resist
answering your question.  

i have been using verilux lamps for decades...
longer, perhaps, as i also used to buy my own
fluorescent bulbs when i worked at fortune 500
companies, because the regular bulbs drove me
nuts... as do the 'new compact fluorescent bulbs'...
i couldn't tolerate those things.  they hurt my
eyes, made it more difficult for me to see, and
i had to remove them all from my home... as
well as offices where i have worked.  

but the verilux lamps have never hurt my eyes
and have only made it easier for me to see.  
i can work all day and night under them and
feel steady, energetic, peaceful, well.  

now, as for the happy light - it is quite intense.  
it is ok when it is across a room, not aimed at
your eyes, but it is very strong light and is not
my idea of therapeutic.  i prefer the verilux
floor lamps or the desk lamps.  they have
always served me well.  i have one on either
side of me as i sit at my computer.  i have used
a wide variety of different bulbs over the years.
these are my favorite lamps.  

curious, i pulled out my little EMF meter and
measured the output from the lamps.  less
than 1mg at all points, including bulb. there
may be a qualitative difference between verilux
and other fluorescent bulbs  i know their effect
on me is vastly superior and i know they cost
vastly more money... and i trust them to
deliver high quality, smooth light.  the cheap
long or spiral bulbs seem to flicker and hum
and really, truly do make me feel like i want
to run out of the room.  i have probably had
these two lamps for 10 years and only even
considered changing the bulb a few months
ago... they had not malfunctioned in any way.  
it just seemed like it was time to do that.

hmm... since you asked about the happylite,
i just turned mine on and tested it with my EMF
meter... not good.  no wonder i don't turn it
on more than once or twice a year.  :)  
perhaps it is the ballast, but it went WAY high
on my meter - which only goes to 5mg, but it
maxed it out - and i am DONE with happylite.  
thanks for drawing my attention to it.  solved
a mystery about why i don't like using it.  

now i went to the fluorescent overhead fixture
in the kitchen, here in the house where i am
staying.  ouch!  that is NASTY!  it WAY exceeds
my little 5mg meter.  very very nasty.  thanks
for the education.  :)  

patricia
   


On Oct 5, 2012, at 5:37 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

On October  5, Rolf Muertter <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Use full-spectum LED bulbs instead. They are more expensive, but way better.

Does anyone have experience here with full-spectrum LED lights?
And if so, which ones, and how do you like them?

Every once and awhile I check on the status of full spectrum LED
lighting.  It used to not exist at all, and then later it
existed but was too expensive to be taken seriously.

Now I see that Chromalux is selling full spectrum LED bulbs, which
gets my attention since I've been using Chromalux incandescent
bulbs for years:

  http://www.healthlighting.com/Online_Store.php?thiscat=37&=SID

Still too expensive to replace all of the light bulbs in my
house, but perhaps okay to buy just one bulb to test it out... :-)

Marc

Hi Marc,

Every new LED bulb I have tried, which is about half-a dozen, have been
intolerable, to varying degrees.
It seems all the new techniques to get brighter lights need transformers
to alter the AC voltage, and few transformers are clean.

But no, I have not tried That brand and model. I may yet be surprised
someday.

The only LEDs that I find acceptable are ones that run on 12V DC power.
That way there is no transformer, and in a DC house or travel trailer,
the 12V battery charger can be placed several dozen feet away.  That
would be the ideal setup.

Stewart


Marc Martin wrote:
>> Use full-spectum LED bulbs instead. They are more expensive, but way better.
>>    
>
> Does anyone have experience here with full-spectrum LED lights?
> And if so, which ones, and how do you like them?
>  

Stewart, thanks for your experience!  Are you talking about regular
lamp light bulb size or something bigger like what I posted.....I just
realized I could just fill my lamps, overhead with the full
spectrum....)

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Sent: Sat, Oct 6, 2012 1:31 pm
Subject: Re: [eSens] Full Spectrum LED lights

 
Hi Marc,

Every new LED bulb I have tried, which is about half-a dozen, have been
intolerable, to varying degrees.
It seems all the new techniques to get brighter lights need
transformers
to alter the AC voltage, and few transformers are clean.

But no, I have not tried That brand and model. I may yet be surprised
someday.

The only LEDs that I find acceptable are ones that run on 12V DC power.
That way there is no transformer, and in a DC house or travel trailer,
the 12V battery charger can be placed several dozen feet away.  That
would be the ideal setup.

Stewart

Marc Martin wrote:
&gt;&gt; Use full-spectum LED bulbs instead. They are more expensive,
but way better.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Does anyone have experience here with full-spectrum LED lights?
&gt; And if so, which ones, and how do you like them?
&gt;


             

i too cannot tolerate LED lightbulbs.  
i took them all out of this place when i moved in.
incandescents replaced them.


On Oct 6, 2012, at 10:30 AM, S Andreason wrote:

Stewart, do you mean that the regular size light bulbs you put in lamps
that are LED all need transformers and you react to those kind?  
thanks, just want to clarify, i have to go to the store soon and have
to decide...

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Sent: Sat, Oct 6, 2012 4:43 pm
Subject: Re: [eSens] Full Spectrum LED lights

 
i too cannot tolerate LED lightbulbs.
i took them all out of this place when i moved in.
incandescents replaced them.

On Oct 6, 2012, at 10:30 AM, S Andreason wrote:

&gt; Hi Marc,
&gt;
&gt; Every new LED bulb I have tried, which is about half-a dozen, have
been
&gt; intolerable, to varying degrees.
&gt; It seems all the new techniques to get brighter lights need
transformers
&gt; to alter the AC voltage, and few transformers are clean.
&gt;
&gt; But no, I have not tried That brand and model. I may yet be
surprised
&gt; someday.
&gt;
&gt; The only LEDs that I find acceptable are ones that run on 12V DC
power.
&gt; That way there is no transformer, and in a DC house or travel
trailer,
&gt; the 12V battery charger can be placed several dozen feet away.  
That
&gt; would be the ideal setup.
&gt;
&gt; Stewart
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Marc Martin wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt; Use full-spectum LED bulbs instead. They are more
expensive, but way better.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Does anyone have experience here with full-spectrum LED lights?
&gt;&gt; And if so, which ones, and how do you like them?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
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Hi Debbie,
Sorry I was not faster.

They all need _something_ to convert the 120V alternating current to 5V
or 12V Direct current.

The 1st generation led from 2006 is quiet, but brightness is more like a
night light. I think because the current draw in milliamps is so little,
these bulbs could get away with simple circuits without a "transformer."
http://seahorseCorral.org/images/emf/20090107_led_bulb_meters_1931-800.jpg

Yes I react to transformers due to RF emissions, or what I perceive as a
high pitched whine. Usually the same as dirty electricity, where the AC
sine wave gets chopped up into square waves, creating spikes on the wires.
In this case, I only see a spike on the GS meter when turned on, then
nothing, for the newer lights below.

The few newer lights I have tested:
http://seahorseCorral.org/images/emf/light-E27-60LED2-2W-800Lm-wide.jpg
http://seahorseCorral.org/images/emf/light-E27-60LED2-3W-globe.jpg
http://seahorseCorral.org/images/emf/light-E27-108LED3-7W-cylinder.jpg
http://seahorseCorral.org/images/emf/light-E27-44SMD-8W-2420Lm-cylinder.jpg

None of these I can tolerate. The SMD or 4th generation LED is okay if I
am not in the same room.
The LED2nd generation measured 4 milliGauss up close, and the cylinders  
were less, 0.7 mG.
None show up on the Zap Checker, and there is a slight buzz on the
Acoustimeter. Very short range. I am lumping them all together because
they just don't show up on my meters. I can't really explain why I can't
tolerate their silent whine.

I do know they are a Lot better than the
curley-florescent-energy-saving-nightmare-bulbs.!! So to be fair, it is
a step in the right direction, away from the florescent kinds being
promoted as green. But to be completely quiet, only incandescent bulbs
are symptom free.

Stewart


[hidden email] wrote:
> Stewart, do you mean that the regular size light bulbs you put in lamps
> that are LED all need transformers and you react to those kind?  
> thanks, just want to clarify, i have to go to the store soon and have
> to decide...
>  

Test them with the AM radio.  Yes some of the early ones had simple full
wave rectifiers and enough led's in series so the voltage didn't need to
change.  But LED's are not very bright and don't age that well in that
situation...  With the rectifiers you still get strong harmonics but that's
a lot better than PWM or SMPS.  Actual DC with a linear power supply would
be best.

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