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Vacuum cleaners?

carazzz

On the heels of the microwave discussion, last night I ran the
vacuum cleaner (careful to send my ES husband into the next
room first) and found that there is *no* safe place for an ES
person to stand when someone else is vacuuming... That
machine gives off some pretty violent fields. 1) Has anyone else
here had problems with their vacuum cleaner? 2) Have you
found a low-EMF vacuum, or some other alternative?

Cara

PS, The vacuum I own is a Hoover -- great sucking action, awful
for ES.

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Marc Martin
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> Has anyone else here had problems with their vacuum cleaner?

Hmmm, even at my worst, the vaccum didn't cause me much
difficulty. Nor did the hair dryer for that matter,
and that was right next to my head! I don't believe
there is such a thing as a low-EMF vacuum, The only
alternative I can think of would be to have him leave
the house while someone else is vacuuming.

Marc

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carazzz

My husband has no apparent problem with the hair dryer or
electric shaver either. But the vacuum cleaner is real bad for him.
I wish I knew what makes some appliances worse than others.
Perhaps brand makes a difference? What sort of vacuum do you
use?

Cara


--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@u...> wrote:
> > Has anyone else here had problems with their vacuum
cleaner?
>
> Hmmm, even at my worst, the vaccum didn't cause me much
> difficulty. Nor did the hair dryer for that matter,
> and that was right next to my head! I don't believe
> there is such a thing as a low-EMF vacuum, The only
> alternative I can think of would be to have him leave
> the house while someone else is vacuuming.
>
> Marc

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stichting milieuziektes
I think it has to do with the occurring magnetic fields ( in nT of mG)

Remember, that everything that is magnetic, will have an impact on the human
body.
Especially electrosensibles may react very strongly.
It does not matter whether the magnetic fields are of DC or AC nature.

Although we measure only the electrical fields of high frequency
electromagnetic fields, because there the electrical and magnetic components
are intertwined, and the magnetic component may be calculated from the
measured electrical component.

With low frequency fields, they must be measured seperately.

So it may be quite understandble that obe vacuum cleaner may be more
*hurting* than another branch.
That also goes for most electrical appliances, like coffee machines,
television sets, DVD players, etc.

Add to that the present electrical fields, and the picture is horrendous.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.hetbitje.nl
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Cara" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 19:59
Subject: [eSens] Re: Vacuum cleaners?


>
>
> My husband has no apparent problem with the hair dryer or
> electric shaver either. But the vacuum cleaner is real bad for him.
> I wish I knew what makes some appliances worse than others.
> Perhaps brand makes a difference? What sort of vacuum do you
> use?
>
> Cara
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@u...> wrote:
> > > Has anyone else here had problems with their vacuum
> cleaner?
> >
> > Hmmm, even at my worst, the vaccum didn't cause me much
> > difficulty. Nor did the hair dryer for that matter,
> > and that was right next to my head! I don't believe
> > there is such a thing as a low-EMF vacuum, The only
> > alternative I can think of would be to have him leave
> > the house while someone else is vacuuming.
> >
> > Marc
>

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Marc Martin
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> I wish I knew what makes some appliances worse than others.
> Perhaps brand makes a difference? What sort of vacuum do you
> use?

I was using a Panasonic canister vacuum when I was at my worst,
and am now using a Miele canister vacuum.

Marc

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Glenn Coleman
I'm also switching to Miele. I haven't tested the EMF given off, but there
is definitely not as high energy I get from my regular Hoover 13 amp
vacuum. The Miele is very quiet and I couldn't notice the major ES symptoms
I do with my current vacuum.

Glenn

>From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
>Reply-To: [hidden email]
>To: [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Vacuum cleaners?
>Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 11:27:17 -0800
>
> > I wish I knew what makes some appliances worse than others.
> > Perhaps brand makes a difference? What sort of vacuum do you
> > use?
>
>I was using a Panasonic canister vacuum when I was at my worst,
>and am now using a Miele canister vacuum.
>
>Marc

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Re: Vacuum cleaners?

Karl
In reply to this post by carazzz
I know this is an old thread, but recently I learned that most vacuum cleaners and hair dryers have DC brush motors that run at very high RPM and produce a lot of 'dirty power.' The reason they're built that way is that it allows them to be smaller and lighter - AC motors are limited to 3,600 RPM and would need to be a lot bigger.

You could modify a vac by replacing its internal rectifier with one that's designed to be low-noise, and you could add a filter between that and the motor to reduce noise from the brushes, but I think it would still be pretty noisy.