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carazzz

It's been a 3 weeks since we started adopting a few suggestions from
this list, so here is my update:

1. Springlife Polarizer OM pendant - uncertain benefit. Initially
observed increased tolerance for EMF in stores (fluorescent lights)
but now no noticeable benefit, esp. at home. Will keep testing in
retail settings.
2. Supplements - Sea Energy and Milk Thistle have been great. No GI
flareups since we started (this had been a recurring problem). Green
Magma troublesome - can't seem to find a small enough initial dose
that doesn't disrupt sleep. Will try again in a week or so. Primal
Defense too early to evaluate, but muscle tests positive.
3. Quantum Power strip - I use this at work to reduce *my* "toxic
energy" level when I get home to my ES husband, and so far it seems
to be helping. Managing my stress level helps too; if I'm emotionally
stressed out, I trigger my husband's ES symptoms.
4. Get rid of high EMF appliances, esp. wireless - a definite must.
The more of these we eliminate, the lower my husband's pain level,
period. (Plus - fewer high tech toys mean we're rediscovering the joy
of books! And conversation! A nice side benefit.)
5. Grounding electrical outlets - very helpful. My husband's
tolerance to his computer workstation is much higher, although we're
finding that this is not a complete solution. Looking for more
protection here, possibly from one of the Quantum Products since the
Springlife isn't quite doing the trick.

I wouldn't say things have been consistently great since we started
trying these approaches, but they do help, and I'm looking forward to
gradually incorporating more things into the program. (We're taking
this slow so we can see clearly which things work.) To those on this
list who are just starting to find solutions, please take heart. My
husband has been very ill for 6 years now, but this past weekend he
felt well enough to go on a long drive with me to the Pacific Ocean.
Then we went on a walk on the beach and flew a kite for about half an
hour. And then we had a nice dinner at a restaurant on the drive
back. It could not have been a nicer day for us, and I know it was
possible because of the new approaches we have been learning from the
wonderful people on this list and elsewhere.

Cara

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Marc Martin
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Thanks for the update, Cara! Always good to hear what's working
and what's not.

One thing you might want to try (if you already haven't) is
experimenting with essential fatty acids. I find that Evening
Primrose Oil capsules help my tolerance, and I've also been
using a skin lotion with Borage oil for the past month that
seems to do the same. The only problem I've found with
these is that I think they throw off my omega-6/omega-3
balance off, because I become more prone to allergies.
So I have to add a flax oil capsule to keep the allergies
in check, and this doesn't appear to make my ES any worse.

Also, what is your husband doing for antioxidants? I'm
getting good results from some grape seed extract supplements,
but have also done well with Megahydrin and Amrit.

Also, what about minerals? Has your husband tried experimenting
with foods high in potassium or magnesium? This may be the
reason why the Sea Energy is helping, or it could be something
else (e.g., zinc, iodine)

Also, on the subject of green food supplements, I recently
bought a bottle of "Perfect Food" capsules, which is from
the same company as "Primal Defense". These seem pretty
good, but beware that they contain spirulina and chlorella.
They also contain chia seeds, which for some reaction I
have a very strong reaction to -- so I'll have to see
if I can tolerate whatever amount is in these capsules.
The recommended dosage is 5 capsules per day, but right
now I'm only taking 1.

Also, with the Quantum power strips, note that 2 strips
are stronger than 1, and also experimenting with the
position of the strip or the outlet it's plugged into
can make a significant difference. The Home unit too,
and might be an interesting option if you're trying
to neutralize TV/radio/cell tower signals entering
your house.

As for the Springlife OM pendant not doing the trick
for the computer, I would recommend adding a Quantum
power strip to the mix instead of getting a larger
Springlife model -- I find that the stronger products
from both companies evoke more of a detox than I can
handle. Or try the free download of the Quantum
Byte software (or perhaps you've already tried this?)

Marc

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Andrew McAfee
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Glad to hear it! Steady progress.
Andrew
On Feb 1, 2005, at 10:39 AM, Cara wrote:

>
>
> It's been a 3 weeks since we started adopting a few suggestions from
> this list, so here is my update:
>
> 1. Springlife Polarizer OM pendant - uncertain benefit. Initially
> observed increased tolerance for EMF in stores (fluorescent lights)
> but now no noticeable benefit, esp. at home. Will keep testing in
> retail settings.
> 2. Supplements - Sea Energy and Milk Thistle have been great. No GI
> flareups since we started (this had been a recurring problem). Green
> Magma troublesome - can't seem to find a small enough initial dose
> that doesn't disrupt sleep. Will try again in a week or so. Primal
> Defense too early to evaluate, but muscle tests positive.
> 3. Quantum Power strip - I use this at work to reduce *my* "toxic
> energy" level when I get home to my ES husband, and so far it seems
> to be helping. Managing my stress level helps too; if I'm emotionally
> stressed out, I trigger my husband's ES symptoms.
> 4. Get rid of high EMF appliances, esp. wireless - a definite must.
> The more of these we eliminate, the lower my husband's pain level,
> period. (Plus - fewer high tech toys mean we're rediscovering the joy
> of books! And conversation! A nice side benefit.)
> 5. Grounding electrical outlets - very helpful. My husband's
> tolerance to his computer workstation is much higher, although we're
> finding that this is not a complete solution. Looking for more
> protection here, possibly from one of the Quantum Products since the
> Springlife isn't quite doing the trick.
>
> I wouldn't say things have been consistently great since we started
> trying these approaches, but they do help, and I'm looking forward to
> gradually incorporating more things into the program. (We're taking
> this slow so we can see clearly which things work.) To those on this
> list who are just starting to find solutions, please take heart. My
> husband has been very ill for 6 years now, but this past weekend he
> felt well enough to go on a long drive with me to the Pacific Ocean.
> Then we went on a walk on the beach and flew a kite for about half an
> hour. And then we had a nice dinner at a restaurant on the drive
> back. It could not have been a nicer day for us, and I know it was
> possible because of the new approaches we have been learning from the
> wonderful people on this list and elsewhere.
>
> Cara
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carazzz
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1. Essential fatty acids: I have some flax seed oil waiting in the
wings but have not introduced it yet. It contains ALA and I read
somewhere that this can be tricky...? Is Primrose Oil a better bet?
(Clueless about this.)
2. Antioxidants - the Primal Defense already contains antioxidants,
or am I wrong about this? Should I add Megahydrin too? (Just don't
want to overload my husband with capsules to take- it gets to be a
lot.)
3. Minerals - We tried Magnesium and my husband rejected it
intuitively (body felt sick). Haven't tried potassium. Specific food
suggestions?
4. Quantum Byte - stupidly hadn't gotten around to this before. Just
did now, at work. Will download/install this at home tonight. (I
think I can tell a difference already, at the highest setting...but I
wonder if this is placebo.)
5. Quantum Home - am seriously considering this now. (If only $$ were
no object, I'd get every EMF protection device and low-EMF appliance
on the market.)

Cara

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@u...> wrote:

> Thanks for the update, Cara! Always good to hear what's working
> and what's not.
>
> One thing you might want to try (if you already haven't) is
> experimenting with essential fatty acids. I find that Evening
> Primrose Oil capsules help my tolerance, and I've also been
> using a skin lotion with Borage oil for the past month that
> seems to do the same. The only problem I've found with
> these is that I think they throw off my omega-6/omega-3
> balance off, because I become more prone to allergies.
> So I have to add a flax oil capsule to keep the allergies
> in check, and this doesn't appear to make my ES any worse.
>
> Also, what is your husband doing for antioxidants? I'm
> getting good results from some grape seed extract supplements,
> but have also done well with Megahydrin and Amrit.
>
> Also, what about minerals? Has your husband tried experimenting
> with foods high in potassium or magnesium? This may be the
> reason why the Sea Energy is helping, or it could be something
> else (e.g., zinc, iodine)
>
> Also, on the subject of green food supplements, I recently
> bought a bottle of "Perfect Food" capsules, which is from
> the same company as "Primal Defense". These seem pretty
> good, but beware that they contain spirulina and chlorella.
> They also contain chia seeds, which for some reaction I
> have a very strong reaction to -- so I'll have to see
> if I can tolerate whatever amount is in these capsules.
> The recommended dosage is 5 capsules per day, but right
> now I'm only taking 1.
>
> Also, with the Quantum power strips, note that 2 strips
> are stronger than 1, and also experimenting with the
> position of the strip or the outlet it's plugged into
> can make a significant difference. The Home unit too,
> and might be an interesting option if you're trying
> to neutralize TV/radio/cell tower signals entering
> your house.
>
> As for the Springlife OM pendant not doing the trick
> for the computer, I would recommend adding a Quantum
> power strip to the mix instead of getting a larger
> Springlife model -- I find that the stronger products
> from both companies evoke more of a detox than I can
> handle. Or try the free download of the Quantum
> Byte software (or perhaps you've already tried this?)
>
> Marc

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Marc Martin
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> 1. Essential fatty acids: I have some flax seed oil waiting in the
> wings but have not introduced it yet. It contains ALA and I read
> somewhere that this can be tricky...? Is Primrose Oil a better bet?

Years ago, I went through lots of flax seed oil, and found that it
had no benefit to my for ES symptoms, however, it did help my
seasonal allergies. Essential Primrose oil and Borage oil are
high in something called GLA, and I've found this to be very
helpful for my ES (although it appears to negatively affect
my allergies)

> 2. Antioxidants - the Primal Defense already contains antioxidants,
> or am I wrong about this? Should I add Megahydrin too? (Just don't
> want to overload my husband with capsules to take- it gets to be a
> lot.)

I don't count Primal Defense as being an anti-oxidant -- just a
probiotic. An antioxidant would be something like Vitamin A,
Vitamin C, Vitamin E, beta carotene, grape seed extract, etc. I think
antioxidants are important to take, although I tend to avoid
the artificial kinds (I don't get any benefit from the chemical
forms of Vitamin C and E). You could certainly add Megahydrin
or any other antioxidant to what he's taking -- it's not going
to overlap with or counteract anything. I've also had good
results with the grape-derived JuicePlus Vineyard capsules,
and making my own carrot juice from organic carrots.

> 3. Minerals - We tried Magnesium and my husband rejected it
> intuitively (body felt sick). Haven't tried potassium. Specific food
> suggestions?

Potassium would be bananas.

As for Magnesium, I also had a bad reaction from one form of
magnesium supplementation, but oddly enough had a good reaction
from a different form (Magnesium Citrate in "Natural Calm").
Also, "Cellfood" has ionic magnesium, calcium, and 80 trace
minerals, and I've had a good health benefits from it.

As for magnesium in food, I think it's supposed to be in
anything green. I also buy "raw chocolate" from rawfood.com,
as this is high in sulfer and magnesium (I can only take a
little of this per day, though).

> 4. Quantum Byte - stupidly hadn't gotten around to this before. Just
> did now, at work. Will download/install this at home tonight. (I
> think I can tell a difference already, at the highest setting...but I
> wonder if this is placebo.)

Yes, this seems to be the common reaction to the Quantum Byte --
is it working, or am I imagining it? I know of a couple people
who went into huge "healing crises" the day after using it, but
I think they are the only ones I know who are truly convinced
that it helps.

> 5. Quantum Home - am seriously considering this now. (If only $$ were
> no object, I'd get every EMF protection device and low-EMF appliance
> on the market.)

At least Quantum is supposed to have a good return policy. And no
need to buy *every* EMF protection device... I'd limit yourself
to the ones recommended here to start with! :-)

Marc

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Marc Martin
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> > 2. Antioxidants - the Primal Defense already contains antioxidants,
> > or am I wrong about this? Should I add Megahydrin too? (Just don't
> > want to overload my husband with capsules to take- it gets to be a
> > lot.)

Note that if you're concerned about taking too many supplements,
I believe that Cellfood counts as being an antioxidant, a mineral
supplement, an enzyme supplement, and an amino acid supplement:

http://store.yahoo.com/samsgeneralstore/cellfood.html 

It's definitely different than Sea Energy/Seasilver, although
from reading about it you may think it is similar. Even though
the recommended dosage is 24 drops per day in water, I actually
do quite fine with 1 to 3 drops per day in water (and 24 is
actually too much for me). At that level of usage, a $25 bottle
lasts a long time. This stuff is sold in my area in all the
health food stores.

Marc