Update from Loni

Hi Everyone!
 
I'm in Rio Rico trying to avoid all the cell antennas in Mesa. I started tohave pain in my teeth & jaw area that went up to my head. Just excruciating pain. So I thought I had a tooth ache/infection or something. I went into the dentist & they did a complete scan of my teeth/jaw area. Found nothing.
 
What I noticed was that when I was away from electrical the pain subsided. So I asked the dentist if he had every heard of that??? He said he had & that is was going to get worse with all the cell phone useage. His partner, the other dentist, had also been aware of the nerve pain associated with RF.
 
So the test was to go to a remote location, thus Rio Rico, & see if the pain went away.
And, yes it did. However, there seems to be damage to the nerves. When I drink something it is, again, severe pain. It seeps down in to the nerves & Igo balistic!!!!
 
Question: Is this nerve damage permanent or do you think it can heal? 
 
How do I go back to my house to see my kids? I will be in agony & most likely more nerve damage. Of course my husband will bullie me to come home & take care of things. This nightmare never seizes to end for me.
 
Loni

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> Question: Is this nerve damage permanent or do you think it can heal? 

I think there are probably certain kinds of foods and supplements which
will help heal nerves. Things like lecithin, choline, fish (hopefully
a kind with low mercury content, like sardines)...

Marc

Methyl B12 is good for nerve support. It really helped
my teeth nerves settle after having all mercury fillings
removed. It's no cure for ES, but may help a bit. Fish
oil, lecithin also.

Eli

--- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone!
>  
> I'm in Rio Rico trying to avoid all the cell antennas in Mesa. I
started to have pain in my teeth & jaw area that went up to my head.
Just excruciating pain. So I thought I had a tooth ache/infection or
something. I went in to the dentist & they did a complete scan of my
teeth/jaw area. Found nothing.
>  
> What I noticed was that when I was away from electrical the pain
subsided. So I asked the dentist if he had every heard of that??? He
said he had & that is was going to get worse with all the cell phone
useage. His partner, the other dentist, had also been aware of the
nerve pain associated with RF.
>  
> So the test was to go to a remote location, thus Rio Rico, & see if
the pain went away.
> And, yes it did. However, there seems to be damage to the nerves.
When I drink something it is, again, severe pain. It seeps down in to
the nerves & I go balistic!!!!
>  
> Question: Is this nerve damage permanent or do you think it can heal? 
>  
> How do I go back to my house to see my kids? I will be in agony &
most likely more nerve damage. Of course my husband will bullie me to
come home & take care of things. This nightmare never seizes to end
for me.

Oh, I just got some of that injectable B12! Great, I hope it will help. I do the fish oil now but not the lecithin. Thanks so much. Loni

--- On Sun, 10/19/08, jaime_schunkewitz <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: jaime_schunkewitz <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Update from Loni
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 11:02 AM






Methyl B12 is good for nerve support. It really helped
my teeth nerves settle after having all mercury fillings
removed. It's no cure for ES, but may help a bit. Fish
oil, lecithin also.

Eli

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Loni <loni326@... > wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone!
>  
> I'm in Rio Rico trying to avoid all the cell antennas in Mesa. I
started to have pain in my teeth & jaw area that went up to my head.
Just excruciating pain. So I thought I had a tooth ache/infection or
something. I went in to the dentist & they did a complete scan of my
teeth/jaw area. Found nothing.
>  
> What I noticed was that when I was away from electrical the pain
subsided. So I asked the dentist if he had every heard of that??? He
said he had & that is was going to get worse with all the cell phone
useage. His partner, the other dentist, had also been aware of the
nerve pain associated with RF.
>  
> So the test was to go to a remote location, thus Rio Rico, & see if
the pain went away.
> And, yes it did. However, there seems to be damage to the nerves.
When I drink something it is, again, severe pain. It seeps down in to
the nerves & I go balistic!!!!
>  
> Question: Is this nerve damage permanent or do you think it can heal? 
>  
> How do I go back to my house to see my kids? I will be in agony &
most likely more nerve damage. Of course my husband will bullie me to
come home & take care of things. This nightmare never seizes to end
for me.
 













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Hi Loni,
Glad to hear you found a quiet place to prove the cause, and hopefully
rest and recover.

Healing nerve damage, that takes 7 years to grow and replace nerve
sheaths fully, so I've been through two cycles already.

I was also diagnosed with nerve damage.
Fortunately, I was able to cut loose, and go without computers and etc.
noisy fields for several years, while I sucked my nest egg dry. That's
why I still believe avoidance is best.

I believe I've healed somewhat, but will never be normal again. My
refuge of choice, has just put up a new tower in the middle of town. My
sensitivities are obviously still "armed and ready" to cause great
distress when I go near town.
I've already spoken to two friends that don't feel well. ... Time will
prove us right, if we survive to see it.

Take care
Stewart

Loni wrote:

> I went in to the dentist & they did a complete scan of my teeth/jaw area.
> Found nothing.
<snip>
>When I drink something it is, again, severe pain. It seeps down in to the
>nerves & I go balistic!!!!

Hi Loni,

Did you tell your dentist about this problem with drinking? It is a classic
sign of "normal" type (ie, non-emf related) dental problems... and easy to
diagnose with hot and cold testing in the dentist's office.

Emil

Yes they tested me there. No reaction. It is definitely EMF exposure. I am in Rio Rico (remote area) & no exposure pain. Just problems from drinking &eating because the exposure caused damage. Loni

--- On Mon, 10/20/08, lessemf.com <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: lessemf.com <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Update from Loni
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 6:50 AM






> I went in to the dentist & they did a complete scan of my teeth/jaw area.
> Found nothing.
<snip>
>When I drink something it is, again, severe pain. It seeps down in to the
>nerves & I go balistic!!!!

Hi Loni,

Did you tell your dentist about this problem with drinking? It is a classic
sign of "normal" type (ie, non-emf related) dental problems... and easy to
diagnose with hot and cold testing in the dentist's office.

Emil

 













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Wow, 7 years. I am still trying to find a safe long term place. I'm living outside still. Loni

--- On Sun, 10/19/08, S Andreason <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: S Andreason <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Update from Loni
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 9:53 PM






Hi Loni,
Glad to hear you found a quiet place to prove the cause, and hopefully
rest and recover.

Healing nerve damage, that takes 7 years to grow and replace nerve
sheaths fully, so I've been through two cycles already.

I was also diagnosed with nerve damage.
Fortunately, I was able to cut loose, and go without computers and etc.
noisy fields for several years, while I sucked my nest egg dry. That's
why I still believe avoidance is best.

I believe I've healed somewhat, but will never be normal again. My
refuge of choice, has just put up a new tower in the middle of town. My
sensitivities are obviously still "armed and ready" to cause great
distress when I go near town.
I've already spoken to two friends that don't feel well. ... Time will
prove us right, if we survive to see it.

Take care
Stewart

Loni wrote:
 













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To Loni:
I was fascinated by your story of going to Rio Rico for relief. I took live in Phoenix metro area and enjoy trips to Rocky Point, Mexico, as my beach house seems to be fairly innocuous as far as offending stimuli. My question is if you think it would be worthwhile to form a local group for comparing notes. I dont know how many there are of us in Az., but I have read that Dolan Springs, Az. is in a special delta area of Az, free of radiation. Of course, that is near Kingman. Feel free to respond. I basically am going thru the same as you, escaping to lo tech environs for relief. By the way, I dont use the computer. My husband, seemingly free of symptoms, types these messages. I wonder how many do use the computer. I can not stand it. Refrigerators are my second enemy, then cell phones. I try not to use any of them. I grew up without any of them, so no big deal.

Maria


jaime_schunkewitz <[hidden email]> wrote:
Methyl B12 is good for nerve support. It really helped
my teeth nerves settle after having all mercury fillings
removed. It's no cure for ES, but may help a bit. Fish
oil, lecithin also.

Eli

--- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone!
>
> I'm in Rio Rico trying to avoid all the cell antennas in Mesa. I
started to have pain in my teeth & jaw area that went up to my head.
Just excruciating pain. So I thought I had a tooth ache/infection or
something. I went in to the dentist & they did a complete scan of my
teeth/jaw area. Found nothing.
>
> What I noticed was that when I was away from electrical the pain
subsided. So I asked the dentist if he had every heard of that??? He
said he had & that is was going to get worse with all the cell phone
useage. His partner, the other dentist, had also been aware of the
nerve pain associated with RF.
>
> So the test was to go to a remote location, thus Rio Rico, & see if
the pain went away.
> And, yes it did. However, there seems to be damage to the nerves.
When I drink something it is, again, severe pain. It seeps down in to
the nerves & I go balistic!!!!
>
> Question: Is this nerve damage permanent or do you think it can heal?
>
> How do I go back to my house to see my kids? I will be in agony &
most likely more nerve damage. Of course my husband will bullie me to
come home & take care of things. This nightmare never seizes to end
for me.








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Hi Angela,
 
Thanks for your email. I have trouble being on this computer but I need some help so I just do it. I took the fridge out of the house in to the garagebut my husband put it back. He doesn't believe me. I can't live in the toxic area anyway so I am in limbo.

I'd be interested in a local group. Do you mean by support group or do you mean to get together? 
 
I am really in bad shape now from that radiation. I hope I can find a safe place to be soon.
I am outside in Rio Rico because the mold is too high in the house. Rocky Point used to be my favorite place to go but since I was poisoned from mold I can not take the spores in the air down there any longer. Is very sad.
 
When I heal some I hope to be able to go down there again. Loni
 

--- On Wed, 10/22/08, angela england <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: angela england <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Update from Loni
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 10:31 AM






To Loni:
I was fascinated by your story of going to Rio Rico for relief. I took livein Phoenix metro area and enjoy trips to Rocky Point, Mexico, as my beach house seems to be fairly innocuous as far as offending stimuli. My questionis if you think it would be worthwhile to form a local group for comparingnotes. I dont know how many there are of us in Az., but I have read that Dolan Springs, Az. is in a special delta area of Az, free of radiation. Of course, that is near Kingman. Feel free to respond. I basically am going thru the same as you, escaping to lo tech environs for relief. By the way, I dont use the computer. My husband, seemingly free of symptoms, types these messages. I wonder how many do use the computer. I can not stand it. Refrigerators are my second enemy, then cell phones. I try not to use any of them.I grew up without any of them, so no big deal.

Maria


jaime_schunkewitz <jaime_schunkewitz@ yahoo.com> wrote:
Methyl B12 is good for nerve support. It really helped
my teeth nerves settle after having all mercury fillings
removed. It's no cure for ES, but may help a bit. Fish
oil, lecithin also.

Eli

--- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Loni <loni326@... > wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone!
>
> I'm in Rio Rico trying to avoid all the cell antennas in Mesa. I
started to have pain in my teeth & jaw area that went up to my head.
Just excruciating pain. So I thought I had a tooth ache/infection or
something. I went in to the dentist & they did a complete scan of my
teeth/jaw area. Found nothing.
>
> What I noticed was that when I was away from electrical the pain
subsided. So I asked the dentist if he had every heard of that??? He
said he had & that is was going to get worse with all the cell phone
useage. His partner, the other dentist, had also been aware of the
nerve pain associated with RF.
>
> So the test was to go to a remote location, thus Rio Rico, & see if
the pain went away.
> And, yes it did. However, there seems to be damage to the nerves.
When I drink something it is, again, severe pain. It seeps down in to
the nerves & I go balistic!!!!
>
> Question: Is this nerve damage permanent or do you think it can heal?
>
> How do I go back to my house to see my kids? I will be in agony &
most likely more nerve damage. Of course my husband will bullie me to
come home & take care of things. This nightmare never seizes to end
for me.
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I have heard that Methyl B12 can combine with the mercury in your body
to form the very toxic methyl mercury. I avoided B12 until I had done a
fair bit of mercury detox. Certainly not straight after fillings
removed.

Aline

--- In [hidden email], "jaime_schunkewitz"
<jaime_schunkewitz@...> wrote:
>
> Methyl B12 is good for nerve support. It really helped
> my teeth nerves settle after having all mercury fillings
> removed. It's no cure for ES, but may help a bit. Fish
> oil, lecithin also.
>
> Eli