"Unknown" Electrical Sensitivity Disorder---New Member

I am reaching out to anyone that can help me.My mother has been
suffering from Electrical Sensitivity characterized by an inability
to talk on the phone without belching and pulsating,an inability to
tolerate noise from music and the television,as well as,even a
problem with bright light.Also,the rocking movements from a bus or in
a car are problematic.
In addition,my mother has difficulty chewing,brushing her
teeth,opeing a heavy door,and being exposed to a cold draft.
She has been to numerous neurologists and pain specialists
who honestly cannot come up with a diagnosis.The doctors have ruled
out Trigeminal Neuralgia due in part to the Electrical Sensitivity
symptoms.
I am reaching out in desperation.I would be grateful for any
guidance you can give me.Thank you very much.
Gary

>She has been to numerous neurologists and pain specialists
>who honestly cannot come up with a diagnosis.

Gary, I found no answers to my own bizarre health problems
when I went to conventional medical doctors. I had much
better luck (although it was still trial & error) with
alternative health doctors. I don't know if you have any
where you live, but you might want to see if you have a
health food store nearby where you could ask around for
recommendations.

Also, there seems to be a lot of people with ES who are
suffering from metal poisoning. You might want to see
how much metal dental work she has, and possibly get some
of it removed (again, an "alternative" dentist would be
better at this than a standard dentist). Also, something
as simple as removing metal jewelry or a watch could
be helpful.

Also, you might want to look into "EMF Protection" market,
especially if she lives near a cellphone antenna, or has
a wireless phone in her house. I think even eating
Microwaved foods might be a contributing factor. Some
of these devices may seem a bit inexplicable, but if
you want to try things which sound more sensible,
look into minimizing exposure (possibly with shielding),
removing any dimmer switches or fluorescent lights, or
installing some RFI/EMI (radio frequency/electromagnetic
interference) filters (sometimes included in surge
protectors).

Personally, I'd also recommend trying out some Springlife
Polarizers from Bioharmonics.com, but I've already
learned from my short time on this list that there's
a lot of resistance to this sort of thing...

Marc

Hello Marc,

you should rephrase your last remark.

*but I've already
> learned from my short time on this list that there's
> a lot of resistance to this sort of thing...*

The resistance comes from people who do not suffer enough, and are not
willing to try for themselves, in order to have first-hand experience.
They want peer reviewed studies about the workings.
But there are no peer reviewed studies.
There are no *scientific* studies at all about the working of *things*.
There are only the testimonies of electrosensible people who have benefitted
from it.

Certainly, the degree of electrosensitivity has an impact on the working.
And, there is a difference between being sensitive to low frequencies as
there is for high frequencies.

Charles




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Gary,

Is she also exhausted? I have CFS,thus adrenal exhaustion. I have experienced amost all of the symptoms you described. If she also feels exhausted than this might indicate adrenal exhaustion.You might wish to investigate on that.
Thanks
Nil
p.s. Could you describe me what unpleasant symptoms she experiences while brushing her teeth?
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I am reaching out to anyone that can help me.My mother has been
suffering from Electrical Sensitivity characterized by an inability
to talk on the phone without belching and pulsating,an inability to
tolerate noise from music and the television,as well as,even a
problem with bright light.Also,the rocking movements from a bus or in
a car are problematic.
In addition,my mother has difficulty chewing,brushing her
teeth,opeing a heavy door,and being exposed to a cold draft.
She has been to numerous neurologists and pain specialists
who honestly cannot come up with a diagnosis.The doctors have ruled
out Trigeminal Neuralgia due in part to the Electrical Sensitivity
symptoms.
I am reaching out in desperation.I would be grateful for any
guidance you can give me.Thank you very much.
Gary



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Nil,
Thank you very much for your message.My mother,actually,is not exhausted.She has the energy but the electrical sensitivity keeps her from enjoying life.She has oral/facial pain connected to the electrical sensitivity along with facial sores near her mouth.
The first sign of this disorder was when she developed a shooting pain if I banged a door to loud.In addition,she could not drink very cold liquids,hence,leaving juices and soda out at room temperature.
Thanks again.
Gary

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Gary,

Is she also exhausted? I have CFS,thus adrenal exhaustion. I have experienced amost all of the symptoms you described. If she also feels exhausted than this might indicate adrenal exhaustion.You might wish to investigate on that.
Thanks
Nil
p.s. Could you describe me what unpleasant symptoms she experiences while brushing her teeth?
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Subject: [eSens] "Unknown" Electrical Sensitivity Disorder---New Member


I am reaching out to anyone that can help me.My mother has been
suffering from Electrical Sensitivity characterized by an inability
to talk on the phone without belching and pulsating,an inability to
tolerate noise from music and the television,as well as,even a
problem with bright light.Also,the rocking movements from a bus or in
a car are problematic.
In addition,my mother has difficulty chewing,brushing her
teeth,opeing a heavy door,and being exposed to a cold draft.
She has been to numerous neurologists and pain specialists
who honestly cannot come up with a diagnosis.The doctors have ruled
out Trigeminal Neuralgia due in part to the Electrical Sensitivity
symptoms.
I am reaching out in desperation.I would be grateful for any
guidance you can give me.Thank you very much.
Gary



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>She has the energy but the electrical sensitivity keeps her from enjoying
>life.She has oral/facial pain connected to the electrical sensitivity along
>with facial sores near her mouth.

Does she have a lot of metal dental work? Or perhaps a recent root canal?
It seems like a lot of the symptoms are mouth-related (chewing, brushing,
sores near mouth). Perhaps a visit to a holistic dentist would be
helpful...

Marc

Yes,
I was also thinking that,some kind of heavy metal toxicity? Either due to mouth work or due to some other reason.

This brings back the question I have forwarded to the group previously. What is the root cause of ES? If we can answer that may be we can find out what her real problem is. Could anyone tell me what the real cause is?

I am thinking that this is related to brain. Heavy metal accumulated at part of the brain related to her symptoms?
Which part of the brain her symptoms are related?

Any ideas?
Thanks.
Nil

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>She has the energy but the electrical sensitivity keeps her from enjoying
>life.She has oral/facial pain connected to the electrical sensitivity along
>with facial sores near her mouth.

Does she have a lot of metal dental work? Or perhaps a recent root canal?
It seems like a lot of the symptoms are mouth-related (chewing, brushing,
sores near mouth). Perhaps a visit to a holistic dentist would be
helpful...

Marc

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It was the late New Zealand scientist Dr Neil Cherry who first said that
approximately 30 per cent of the population are more sensitive to
environmental pollution than the rest of the population. This fact was
confirmed by Dr Kenneth Olden, CEO of the National Institute of
Environmental Science (NIEHS - US peak organisation), who told the
Senator and I this a couple of years ago in person while he was visiting
Australia for a biotech conference in Queensland. I have this in
writing somewhere.

I would say that if and when such people (the 30 per cent) are subjected
to extra stress to the immune system i.e. through illness, exposure to
chemicals, high levels of electromagnetic radiation or psychological
stress then they are likely to develop ES symptoms. I also suspect that
there is a neurological component - that as some have more sensitive
nervous systems they are more likely to absorb radiation. This would no
doubt tie in with a lowered immune or vitality, which would perhaps
normally be more protective of the nervous system.

This is an area which certainly could do with more thought and research.


Sarah


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Sent: Monday, 23 February 2004 1:04 PM
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Member


Yes,
I was also thinking that,some kind of heavy metal toxicity? Either due
to mouth work or due to some other reason.

This brings back the question I have forwarded to the group previously.
What is the root cause of ES? If we can answer that may be we can find
out what her real problem is. Could anyone tell me what the real cause
is?

I am thinking that this is related to brain. Heavy metal accumulated at
part of the brain related to her symptoms?
Which part of the brain her symptoms are related?

Any ideas?
Thanks.
Nil
 
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Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 3:15 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] "Unknown" Electrical Sensitivity Disorder---New
Member


>She has the energy but the electrical sensitivity keeps her from
enjoying
>life.She has oral/facial pain connected to the electrical sensitivity
along
>with facial sores near her mouth.

Does she have a lot of metal dental work? Or perhaps a recent root
canal?
It seems like a lot of the symptoms are mouth-related (chewing,
brushing,
sores near mouth). Perhaps a visit to a holistic dentist would be
helpful...

Marc

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Gary - is it possible that your mother is suffering from general
depletion? It sounds to me as though she needs vitamin B, mineral
supplements, etc. I know that since becoming ES I have needed to make
sure that my potassium levels are maintained. Lack of potassium can
make you weak, sensitive to noise and interfere with the action of the
heart, and other things. Lack of vitamin B can cause sensitivity to
light, plus many other symptoms.

Have you tried a multi-vitamin supplement? Complementary medicine is
excellent in such cases - herbal and vitamin remedies can really help.
I have spent many years experimenting with the various different things
that are available, plus foods, and while everyone has different needs
once they become ill there are usually some things that are generally
needed.

I have also discovered that if the liver is weak or burdened with toxins
then one becomes less able to cope with pollutants of all sorts. Maybe
this has a role to play in the onset of ES?

Sarah


I am reaching out to anyone that can help me.My mother has been
suffering from Electrical Sensitivity characterized by an inability
to talk on the phone without belching and pulsating,an inability to
tolerate noise from music and the television,as well as,even a
problem with bright light.Also,the rocking movements from a bus or in
a car are problematic.
In addition,my mother has difficulty chewing,brushing her
teeth,opeing a heavy door,and being exposed to a cold draft.
She has been to numerous neurologists and pain specialists
who honestly cannot come up with a diagnosis.The doctors have ruled
out Trigeminal Neuralgia due in part to the Electrical Sensitivity
symptoms.
I am reaching out in desperation.I would be grateful for any
guidance you can give me.Thank you very much.
Gary



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In a message dated 2/22/2004 2:18:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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I am reaching out in desperation.I would be grateful for any
guidance you can give me.Thank you very much.
Gary
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Hi Gary, It has been my experience, after surveying hundreds of homes, that
the combination of man made EMF and aberrant energy fields coming from
geopathic faults creates the most troublesome health problems. One avenue you may
try is to locate a dowser competent in plotting geopathic energy fields in and
around your mothers house. It is usually a simple matter to alter the man made
EMF. To counteract the geopathic aberrant energy fields is many times more
difficult to solve. If you care to contact me direct I may be able to help you
find someone in your area that can do this. Bill W


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It's not a problem of metal in the mouse for me because i have none. for me the mast,
mobile... everything and everybody emitting waves... I am 38



--- In [hidden email], "Nymphaea/formerly nil" <ng2113@s...> wrote:
> Yes,
> I was also thinking that,some kind of heavy metal toxicity? Either due to mouth work or
due to some other reason.
>
> This brings back the question I have forwarded to the group previously. What is the root
cause of ES? If we can answer that may be we can find out what her real problem is. Could
anyone tell me what the real cause is?
>
> I am thinking that this is related to brain. Heavy metal accumulated at part of the brain
related to her symptoms? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Cilantro takes heavy metals out of the brain. Garlic is good. Lots of water. For sores in mouth i would take some powdered golden seal root and move that around in there with water, then swallow or spit out, whatever you prefer, but goldenseal is precious. it is cure-all and can eneter sick cells and restore them.

I have an idea about the cause, but not willing to share in public as it is hard to believe. Thjnk we all have to get to certain insights ourselves and we will be lead to the answer if we keep open minds and think with our hearts. no matter how hard things are, try and keep to live fron love and joy, not fear.

Exercise: Try not to say oh my God out of context. Every time I hear it I add please love, please love me free, and it is out of my vocabulary and thoughts.


Love and Light

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It's not a problem of metal in the mouse for me because i have none. for me the mast,
mobile... everything and everybody emitting waves... I am 38



--- In [hidden email], "Nymphaea/formerly nil" <ng2113@s...> wrote:
> Yes,
> I was also thinking that,some kind of heavy metal toxicity? Either due to mouth work or
due to some other reason.
>
> This brings back the question I have forwarded to the group previously. What is the root
cause of ES? If we can answer that may be we can find out what her real problem is. Could
anyone tell me what the real cause is?
>
> I am thinking that this is related to brain. Heavy metal accumulated at part of the brain
related to her symptoms? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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