I am reaching out to anyone that can help me.My mother has been
suffering from Electrical Sensitivity characterized by an inability to talk on the phone without belching and pulsating,an inability to tolerate noise from music and the television,as well as,even a problem with bright light.Also,the rocking movements from a bus or in a car are problematic. In addition,my mother has difficulty chewing,brushing her teeth,opeing a heavy door,and being exposed to a cold draft. She has been to numerous neurologists and pain specialists who honestly cannot come up with a diagnosis.The doctors have ruled out Trigeminal Neuralgia due in part to the Electrical Sensitivity symptoms. I am reaching out in desperation.I would be grateful for any guidance you can give me.Thank you very much. Gary |
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>She has been to numerous neurologists and pain specialists
>who honestly cannot come up with a diagnosis. Gary, I found no answers to my own bizarre health problems when I went to conventional medical doctors. I had much better luck (although it was still trial & error) with alternative health doctors. I don't know if you have any where you live, but you might want to see if you have a health food store nearby where you could ask around for recommendations. Also, there seems to be a lot of people with ES who are suffering from metal poisoning. You might want to see how much metal dental work she has, and possibly get some of it removed (again, an "alternative" dentist would be better at this than a standard dentist). Also, something as simple as removing metal jewelry or a watch could be helpful. Also, you might want to look into "EMF Protection" market, especially if she lives near a cellphone antenna, or has a wireless phone in her house. I think even eating Microwaved foods might be a contributing factor. Some of these devices may seem a bit inexplicable, but if you want to try things which sound more sensible, look into minimizing exposure (possibly with shielding), removing any dimmer switches or fluorescent lights, or installing some RFI/EMI (radio frequency/electromagnetic interference) filters (sometimes included in surge protectors). Personally, I'd also recommend trying out some Springlife Polarizers from Bioharmonics.com, but I've already learned from my short time on this list that there's a lot of resistance to this sort of thing... Marc |
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you should rephrase your last remark. *but I've already > learned from my short time on this list that there's > a lot of resistance to this sort of thing...* The resistance comes from people who do not suffer enough, and are not willing to try for themselves, in order to have first-hand experience. They want peer reviewed studies about the workings. But there are no peer reviewed studies. There are no *scientific* studies at all about the working of *things*. There are only the testimonies of electrosensible people who have benefitted from it. Certainly, the degree of electrosensitivity has an impact on the working. And, there is a difference between being sensitive to low frequencies as there is for high frequencies. Charles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 20:48 Subject: Re: [eSens] "Unknown" Electrical Sensitivity Disorder---New Member > >She has been to numerous neurologists and pain specialists > >who honestly cannot come up with a diagnosis. > > Gary, I found no answers to my own bizarre health problems > when I went to conventional medical doctors. I had much > better luck (although it was still trial & error) with > alternative health doctors. I don't know if you have any > where you live, but you might want to see if you have a > health food store nearby where you could ask around for > recommendations. > > Also, there seems to be a lot of people with ES who are > suffering from metal poisoning. You might want to see > how much metal dental work she has, and possibly get some > of it removed (again, an "alternative" dentist would be > better at this than a standard dentist). Also, something > as simple as removing metal jewelry or a watch could > be helpful. > > Also, you might want to look into "EMF Protection" market, > especially if she lives near a cellphone antenna, or has > a wireless phone in her house. I think even eating > Microwaved foods might be a contributing factor. Some > of these devices may seem a bit inexplicable, but if > you want to try things which sound more sensible, > look into minimizing exposure (possibly with shielding), > removing any dimmer switches or fluorescent lights, or > installing some RFI/EMI (radio frequency/electromagnetic > interference) filters (sometimes included in surge > protectors). > > Personally, I'd also recommend trying out some Springlife > Polarizers from Bioharmonics.com, but I've already > learned from my short time on this list that there's > a lot of resistance to this sort of thing... > > Marc > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > |
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Is she also exhausted? I have CFS,thus adrenal exhaustion. I have experienced amost all of the symptoms you described. If she also feels exhausted than this might indicate adrenal exhaustion.You might wish to investigate on that. Thanks Nil p.s. Could you describe me what unpleasant symptoms she experiences while brushing her teeth? ----- Original Message ----- From: garysearching1 To: [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 9:17 PM Subject: [eSens] "Unknown" Electrical Sensitivity Disorder---New Member I am reaching out to anyone that can help me.My mother has been suffering from Electrical Sensitivity characterized by an inability to talk on the phone without belching and pulsating,an inability to tolerate noise from music and the television,as well as,even a problem with bright light.Also,the rocking movements from a bus or in a car are problematic. In addition,my mother has difficulty chewing,brushing her teeth,opeing a heavy door,and being exposed to a cold draft. She has been to numerous neurologists and pain specialists who honestly cannot come up with a diagnosis.The doctors have ruled out Trigeminal Neuralgia due in part to the Electrical Sensitivity symptoms. I am reaching out in desperation.I would be grateful for any guidance you can give me.Thank you very much. Gary ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Thank you very much for your message.My mother,actually,is not exhausted.She has the energy but the electrical sensitivity keeps her from enjoying life.She has oral/facial pain connected to the electrical sensitivity along with facial sores near her mouth. The first sign of this disorder was when she developed a shooting pain if I banged a door to loud.In addition,she could not drink very cold liquids,hence,leaving juices and soda out at room temperature. Thanks again. Gary Nymphaea/formerly nil <[hidden email]> wrote: Gary, Is she also exhausted? I have CFS,thus adrenal exhaustion. I have experienced amost all of the symptoms you described. If she also feels exhausted than this might indicate adrenal exhaustion.You might wish to investigate on that. Thanks Nil p.s. Could you describe me what unpleasant symptoms she experiences while brushing her teeth? ----- Original Message ----- From: garysearching1 To: [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 9:17 PM Subject: [eSens] "Unknown" Electrical Sensitivity Disorder---New Member I am reaching out to anyone that can help me.My mother has been suffering from Electrical Sensitivity characterized by an inability to talk on the phone without belching and pulsating,an inability to tolerate noise from music and the television,as well as,even a problem with bright light.Also,the rocking movements from a bus or in a car are problematic. In addition,my mother has difficulty chewing,brushing her teeth,opeing a heavy door,and being exposed to a cold draft. She has been to numerous neurologists and pain specialists who honestly cannot come up with a diagnosis.The doctors have ruled out Trigeminal Neuralgia due in part to the Electrical Sensitivity symptoms. I am reaching out in desperation.I would be grateful for any guidance you can give me.Thank you very much. Gary ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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>She has the energy but the electrical sensitivity keeps her from enjoying
>life.She has oral/facial pain connected to the electrical sensitivity along >with facial sores near her mouth. Does she have a lot of metal dental work? Or perhaps a recent root canal? It seems like a lot of the symptoms are mouth-related (chewing, brushing, sores near mouth). Perhaps a visit to a holistic dentist would be helpful... Marc |
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I was also thinking that,some kind of heavy metal toxicity? Either due to mouth work or due to some other reason. This brings back the question I have forwarded to the group previously. What is the root cause of ES? If we can answer that may be we can find out what her real problem is. Could anyone tell me what the real cause is? I am thinking that this is related to brain. Heavy metal accumulated at part of the brain related to her symptoms? Which part of the brain her symptoms are related? Any ideas? Thanks. Nil ----- Original Message ----- From: Marc Martin To: [hidden email] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 3:15 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] "Unknown" Electrical Sensitivity Disorder---New Member >She has the energy but the electrical sensitivity keeps her from enjoying >life.She has oral/facial pain connected to the electrical sensitivity along >with facial sores near her mouth. Does she have a lot of metal dental work? Or perhaps a recent root canal? It seems like a lot of the symptoms are mouth-related (chewing, brushing, sores near mouth). Perhaps a visit to a holistic dentist would be helpful... Marc Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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It was the late New Zealand scientist Dr Neil Cherry who first said that
approximately 30 per cent of the population are more sensitive to environmental pollution than the rest of the population. This fact was confirmed by Dr Kenneth Olden, CEO of the National Institute of Environmental Science (NIEHS - US peak organisation), who told the Senator and I this a couple of years ago in person while he was visiting Australia for a biotech conference in Queensland. I have this in writing somewhere. I would say that if and when such people (the 30 per cent) are subjected to extra stress to the immune system i.e. through illness, exposure to chemicals, high levels of electromagnetic radiation or psychological stress then they are likely to develop ES symptoms. I also suspect that there is a neurological component - that as some have more sensitive nervous systems they are more likely to absorb radiation. This would no doubt tie in with a lowered immune or vitality, which would perhaps normally be more protective of the nervous system. This is an area which certainly could do with more thought and research. Sarah -----Original Message----- From: Nymphaea/formerly nil [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Monday, 23 February 2004 1:04 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [eSens] "Unknown" Electrical Sensitivity Disorder---New Member Yes, I was also thinking that,some kind of heavy metal toxicity? Either due to mouth work or due to some other reason. This brings back the question I have forwarded to the group previously. What is the root cause of ES? If we can answer that may be we can find out what her real problem is. Could anyone tell me what the real cause is? I am thinking that this is related to brain. Heavy metal accumulated at part of the brain related to her symptoms? Which part of the brain her symptoms are related? Any ideas? Thanks. Nil ----- Original Message ----- From: Marc Martin To: [hidden email] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 3:15 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] "Unknown" Electrical Sensitivity Disorder---New Member >She has the energy but the electrical sensitivity keeps her from enjoying >life.She has oral/facial pain connected to the electrical sensitivity along >with facial sores near her mouth. Does she have a lot of metal dental work? Or perhaps a recent root canal? It seems like a lot of the symptoms are mouth-related (chewing, brushing, sores near mouth). Perhaps a visit to a holistic dentist would be helpful... Marc Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Gary - is it possible that your mother is suffering from general
depletion? It sounds to me as though she needs vitamin B, mineral supplements, etc. I know that since becoming ES I have needed to make sure that my potassium levels are maintained. Lack of potassium can make you weak, sensitive to noise and interfere with the action of the heart, and other things. Lack of vitamin B can cause sensitivity to light, plus many other symptoms. Have you tried a multi-vitamin supplement? Complementary medicine is excellent in such cases - herbal and vitamin remedies can really help. I have spent many years experimenting with the various different things that are available, plus foods, and while everyone has different needs once they become ill there are usually some things that are generally needed. I have also discovered that if the liver is weak or burdened with toxins then one becomes less able to cope with pollutants of all sorts. Maybe this has a role to play in the onset of ES? Sarah I am reaching out to anyone that can help me.My mother has been suffering from Electrical Sensitivity characterized by an inability to talk on the phone without belching and pulsating,an inability to tolerate noise from music and the television,as well as,even a problem with bright light.Also,the rocking movements from a bus or in a car are problematic. In addition,my mother has difficulty chewing,brushing her teeth,opeing a heavy door,and being exposed to a cold draft. She has been to numerous neurologists and pain specialists who honestly cannot come up with a diagnosis.The doctors have ruled out Trigeminal Neuralgia due in part to the Electrical Sensitivity symptoms. I am reaching out in desperation.I would be grateful for any guidance you can give me.Thank you very much. Gary ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links |
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In a message dated 2/22/2004 2:18:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes: I am reaching out in desperation.I would be grateful for any guidance you can give me.Thank you very much. Gary ******************* Hi Gary, It has been my experience, after surveying hundreds of homes, that the combination of man made EMF and aberrant energy fields coming from geopathic faults creates the most troublesome health problems. One avenue you may try is to locate a dowser competent in plotting geopathic energy fields in and around your mothers house. It is usually a simple matter to alter the man made EMF. To counteract the geopathic aberrant energy fields is many times more difficult to solve. If you care to contact me direct I may be able to help you find someone in your area that can do this. Bill W [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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It's not a problem of metal in the mouse for me because i have none. for me the mast, mobile... everything and everybody emitting waves... I am 38 --- In [hidden email], "Nymphaea/formerly nil" <ng2113@s...> wrote: > Yes, > I was also thinking that,some kind of heavy metal toxicity? Either due to mouth work or due to some other reason. > > This brings back the question I have forwarded to the group previously. What is the root cause of ES? If we can answer that may be we can find out what her real problem is. Could anyone tell me what the real cause is? > > I am thinking that this is related to brain. Heavy metal accumulated at part of the brain related to her symptoms? > Which part of the brain her symptoms are related? > > Any ideas? > Thanks. > Nil > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Marc Martin > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 3:15 AM > Subject: Re: [eSens] "Unknown" Electrical Sensitivity Disorder---New Member > > > >She has the energy but the electrical sensitivity keeps her from enjoying > >life.She has oral/facial pain connected to the electrical sensitivity along > >with facial sores near her mouth. > > Does she have a lot of metal dental work? Or perhaps a recent root canal? > It seems like a lot of the symptoms are mouth-related (chewing, brushing, > sores near mouth). Perhaps a visit to a holistic dentist would be > helpful... > > Marc > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > -- > Yahoo! Groups Links > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [hidden email] > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Cilantro takes heavy metals out of the brain. Garlic is good. Lots of water. For sores in mouth i would take some powdered golden seal root and move that around in there with water, then swallow or spit out, whatever you prefer, but goldenseal is precious. it is cure-all and can eneter sick cells and restore them.
I have an idea about the cause, but not willing to share in public as it is hard to believe. Thjnk we all have to get to certain insights ourselves and we will be lead to the answer if we keep open minds and think with our hearts. no matter how hard things are, try and keep to live fron love and joy, not fear. Exercise: Try not to say oh my God out of context. Every time I hear it I add please love, please love me free, and it is out of my vocabulary and thoughts. Love and Light sylvie_ru <[hidden email]> wrote: It's not a problem of metal in the mouse for me because i have none. for me the mast, mobile... everything and everybody emitting waves... I am 38 --- In [hidden email], "Nymphaea/formerly nil" <ng2113@s...> wrote: > Yes, > I was also thinking that,some kind of heavy metal toxicity? Either due to mouth work or due to some other reason. > > This brings back the question I have forwarded to the group previously. What is the root cause of ES? If we can answer that may be we can find out what her real problem is. Could anyone tell me what the real cause is? > > I am thinking that this is related to brain. Heavy metal accumulated at part of the brain related to her symptoms? > Which part of the brain her symptoms are related? > > Any ideas? > Thanks. > Nil > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Marc Martin > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 3:15 AM > Subject: Re: [eSens] "Unknown" Electrical Sensitivity Disorder---New Member > > > >She has the energy but the electrical sensitivity keeps her from enjoying > >life.She has oral/facial pain connected to the electrical sensitivity along > >with facial sores near her mouth. > > Does she have a lot of metal dental work? Or perhaps a recent root canal? > It seems like a lot of the symptoms are mouth-related (chewing, brushing, > sores near mouth). Perhaps a visit to a holistic dentist would be > helpful... > > Marc > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > -- > Yahoo! Groups Links > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [hidden email] > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Get unlimited calls to U.S./Canada --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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