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adiaha22
This evening on ABC News there was a report that the US government was phasing out incandescent light bulbs.  It told of how a Sylvania plant in PA was shifting over from incandescents to bulbs that look like old bulbs but actually have mini halogen lamps inside of them. I don't know about you, but the mini flourescents make me really sick (worse than the regular sized flourescents) and I have a friend who doesn't get sick from cell phones, but gets sick from halogen lamps. It's ghastly, what goes on... Whatever happened to options? Here we have the government making all these decisions without input from consumers or taxpayers. 
 
It's like they've already decided and we're maybe starting to catch a whiff of the plan as it unfolds.  Most people still don't realize the changes that are being made in the name of energy sustainability. And let us be certain, this new found green consciousness seems to care very little about the eco-systems its development is challenging.  The plot thickens...

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Re: US Government is phasing out incandescent light bulbs...

Christina Steils
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Best
Giles

--- On Sat, 23/4/11, pamela clemonts <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: pamela clemonts <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] US Government is phasing out incandescent light bulbs...
To: "eSens Group" <[hidden email]>, "eSens Group" <[hidden email]>
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      This evening on ABC News there was a report that the US government was phasing out incandescent light bulbs.  It told of how a Sylvania plant in PA was shifting over from incandescents to bulbs that look like old bulbs but actually have mini halogen lamps inside of them. I don't know about you, but the mini flourescents make me really sick (worse than the regular sized flourescents) and I have a friend who doesn't get sick from cell phones, but gets sick from halogen lamps. It's ghastly, what goes on... Whatever happened to options? Here we have the government making all these decisions without input from consumers or taxpayers. 

 

It's like they've already decided and we're maybe starting to catch a whiff of the plan as it unfolds.  Most people still don't realize the changes that are being made in the name of energy sustainability. And let us be certain, this new found green consciousness seems to care very little about the eco-systems its development is challenging.  The plot thickens...



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ESther
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Besides which, most people don't realize the compact fluorescent light  
bulbs have mercury in them.  If they break in your home, you need to  
have a HazMat team come in to clean it up.  Not good in homes where  
children may knock lamps over, but anyone could drop a bulb while  
changing one and suddenly your home becomes a hazardous site.

Also, they are terrible for the environment.  They must be disposed of  
as hazardous waste.  Most people will just throw them in the trash  
because they either don't have a hazardous waste disposal collection  
by their waste management company, or they just don't know.  People  
are told if they can't dispose of them at a hazardous waste facility,  
they should wrap them in newspaper and put them in the trash!  A lot  
of good that's going to do in our landfills when they get broken, and  
the mercury eventually leaches into our water supply.  Plus what about  
breakage in the garbage trucks and the waste collectors who are  
exposed to the mercury?  So in the name of energy savings, our health  
is being put at risk and our environment will be further polluted.  
Don't we have enough mercury filled fish already?

I absolutely cannot tolerate fluorescent lights of any kind, including  
the CFL's.  Even my eye doctor has written an article in her  
newsletter relating the eye strain they cause.  I'm trying to stock up  
on incandescents for the next 15 years, being optimistic that I'm  
going to live that long.

The phaseout is going to happen from 2012 to 2014, with the 100 watt  
bulbs being eliminated first.  Already, Target in my area (S.F. Bay  
Area) isn't selling them any more and they are very hard to find.  
They seem to be replacing all the incandescent bulbs with the halogen  
ones as they sell out their stock.

I've read that halogen bulbs are bad for a you, too.  EMF's I think,  
but I'd have to check.  I have a halogen pole lamp I'm planning on  
replacing.

gomma


On Apr 22, 2011, at 4:22 PM, pamela clemonts wrote:

> This evening on ABC News there was a report that the US government  
> was phasing out incandescent light bulbs.  It told of how a Sylvania  
> plant in PA was shifting over from incandescents to bulbs that look  
> like old bulbs but actually have mini halogen lamps inside of them.  
> I don't know about you, but the mini flourescents make me really  
> sick (worse than the regular sized flourescents) and I have a friend  
> who doesn't get sick from cell phones, but gets sick from halogen  
> lamps. It's ghastly, what goes on... Whatever happened to options?  
> Here we have the government making all these decisions without input  
> from consumers or taxpayers.
>
> It's like they've already decided and we're maybe starting to catch  
> a whiff of the plan as it unfolds.  Most people still don't realize  
> the changes that are being made in the name of energy  
> sustainability. And let us be certain, this new found green  
> consciousness seems to care very little about the eco-systems its  
> development is challenging.  The plot thickens...
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>



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Loni Rosser
So are those the curly light bulbs being sold now in replacement. cfl's?  Loni

--- On Sun, 4/24/11, Esther LeSieur <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Esther LeSieur <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] US Government is phasing out incandescent light bulbs...
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, April 24, 2011, 5:17 AM


 



Besides which, most people don't realize the compact fluorescent light
bulbs have mercury in them. If they break in your home, you need to
have a HazMat team come in to clean it up. Not good in homes where
children may knock lamps over, but anyone could drop a bulb while
changing one and suddenly your home becomes a hazardous site.

Also, they are terrible for the environment. They must be disposed of
as hazardous waste. Most people will just throw them in the trash
because they either don't have a hazardous waste disposal collection
by their waste management company, or they just don't know. People
are told if they can't dispose of them at a hazardous waste facility,
they should wrap them in newspaper and put them in the trash! A lot
of good that's going to do in our landfills when they get broken, and
the mercury eventually leaches into our water supply. Plus what about
breakage in the garbage trucks and the waste collectors who are
exposed to the mercury? So in the name of energy savings, our health
is being put at risk and our environment will be further polluted.
Don't we have enough mercury filled fish already?

I absolutely cannot tolerate fluorescent lights of any kind, including
the CFL's. Even my eye doctor has written an article in her
newsletter relating the eye strain they cause. I'm trying to stock up
on incandescents for the next 15 years, being optimistic that I'm
going to live that long.

The phaseout is going to happen from 2012 to 2014, with the 100 watt
bulbs being eliminated first. Already, Target in my area (S.F. Bay
Area) isn't selling them any more and they are very hard to find.
They seem to be replacing all the incandescent bulbs with the halogen
ones as they sell out their stock.

I've read that halogen bulbs are bad for a you, too. EMF's I think,
but I'd have to check. I have a halogen pole lamp I'm planning on
replacing.

gomma

On Apr 22, 2011, at 4:22 PM, pamela clemonts wrote:

> This evening on ABC News there was a report that the US government
> was phasing out incandescent light bulbs. It told of how a Sylvania
> plant in PA was shifting over from incandescents to bulbs that look
> like old bulbs but actually have mini halogen lamps inside of them.
> I don't know about you, but the mini flourescents make me really
> sick (worse than the regular sized flourescents) and I have a friend
> who doesn't get sick from cell phones, but gets sick from halogen
> lamps. It's ghastly, what goes on... Whatever happened to options?
> Here we have the government making all these decisions without input
> from consumers or taxpayers.
>
> It's like they've already decided and we're maybe starting to catch
> a whiff of the plan as it unfolds. Most people still don't realize
> the changes that are being made in the name of energy
> sustainability. And let us be certain, this new found green
> consciousness seems to care very little about the eco-systems its
> development is challenging. The plot thickens...
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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Re: US Government is phasing out incandescent light bulbs...

BiBrun
The light bulbs with the mini halogens inside may be OK.
I think I have reacted to some because the filament vibrates in
some cases.  The halogens that cause the most problems
are the low voltage ones, because they are usually powered
by a SMPS and/or dimmer switch.



On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Loni <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> So are those the curly light bulbs being sold now in replacement. cfl's?
> Loni
>
> --- On Sun, 4/24/11, Esther LeSieur <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> From: Esther LeSieur <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] US Government is phasing out incandescent light
> bulbs...
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Sunday, April 24, 2011, 5:17 AM
>
>
>
>
> Besides which, most people don't realize the compact fluorescent light
> bulbs have mercury in them. If they break in your home, you need to
> have a HazMat team come in to clean it up. Not good in homes where
> children may knock lamps over, but anyone could drop a bulb while
> changing one and suddenly your home becomes a hazardous site.
>
> Also, they are terrible for the environment. They must be disposed of
> as hazardous waste. Most people will just throw them in the trash
> because they either don't have a hazardous waste disposal collection
> by their waste management company, or they just don't know. People
> are told if they can't dispose of them at a hazardous waste facility,
> they should wrap them in newspaper and put them in the trash! A lot
> of good that's going to do in our landfills when they get broken, and
> the mercury eventually leaches into our water supply. Plus what about
> breakage in the garbage trucks and the waste collectors who are
> exposed to the mercury? So in the name of energy savings, our health
> is being put at risk and our environment will be further polluted.
> Don't we have enough mercury filled fish already?
>
> I absolutely cannot tolerate fluorescent lights of any kind, including
> the CFL's. Even my eye doctor has written an article in her
> newsletter relating the eye strain they cause. I'm trying to stock up
> on incandescents for the next 15 years, being optimistic that I'm
> going to live that long.
>
> The phaseout is going to happen from 2012 to 2014, with the 100 watt
> bulbs being eliminated first. Already, Target in my area (S.F. Bay
> Area) isn't selling them any more and they are very hard to find.
> They seem to be replacing all the incandescent bulbs with the halogen
> ones as they sell out their stock.
>
> I've read that halogen bulbs are bad for a you, too. EMF's I think,
> but I'd have to check. I have a halogen pole lamp I'm planning on
> replacing.
>
> gomma
>
> On Apr 22, 2011, at 4:22 PM, pamela clemonts wrote:
>
> > This evening on ABC News there was a report that the US government
> > was phasing out incandescent light bulbs. It told of how a Sylvania
> > plant in PA was shifting over from incandescents to bulbs that look
> > like old bulbs but actually have mini halogen lamps inside of them.
> > I don't know about you, but the mini flourescents make me really
> > sick (worse than the regular sized flourescents) and I have a friend
> > who doesn't get sick from cell phones, but gets sick from halogen
> > lamps. It's ghastly, what goes on... Whatever happened to options?
> > Here we have the government making all these decisions without input
> > from consumers or taxpayers.
> >
> > It's like they've already decided and we're maybe starting to catch
> > a whiff of the plan as it unfolds. Most people still don't realize
> > the changes that are being made in the name of energy
> > sustainability. And let us be certain, this new found green
> > consciousness seems to care very little about the eco-systems its
> > development is challenging. The plot thickens...
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Marc Martin
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> So are those the curly light bulbs being sold now in replacement. cfl's?  Loni

I think perhaps the fear of incandescent bulbs being "phased out" in the USA
is a bit overblown.  There are so many exceptions to these rules -- that is,
particular incandescent bulbs that are exempt -- that I think that all of the
incandescent bulbs I've been using for years will continued to be available.
(most of the bulbs in my house are made by Chromalux)

Marc

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Loni Rosser
they sell the incandescent light bulbs (look like)  that say "Double Life" on the box. Longer life of the bulb. Are those ok?  Loni

--- On Mon, 4/25/11, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] US Government is phasing out incandescent light bulbs...
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 4:38 PM


 



> So are those the curly light bulbs being sold now in replacement. cfl's?  Loni

I think perhaps the fear of incandescent bulbs being "phased out" in the USA
is a bit overblown. There are so many exceptions to these rules -- that is,
particular incandescent bulbs that are exempt -- that I think that all of the
incandescent bulbs I've been using for years will continued to be available.
(most of the bulbs in my house are made by Chromalux)

Marc








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emraware
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Yes, the curly ones are CFL's.  Sometimes, they're hidden inside a normal-shaped bulb, so it's not always easy to spot.

BTW, I think halogens have high magnetic fields.

Next best to incandescent is probably LED, although I read somewhere that even those may not be as safe as incandescent (from EMF and vision standpoint).  For LED, there may be some w/ spectral properties that are more or less damaging, so it's important to research to protect your eyes.

--- In [hidden email], Bill Bruno <wbruno@...> wrote:

>
> The light bulbs with the mini halogens inside may be OK.
> I think I have reacted to some because the filament vibrates in
> some cases.  The halogens that cause the most problems
> are the low voltage ones, because they are usually powered
> by a SMPS and/or dimmer switch.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Loni <loni326@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > So are those the curly light bulbs being sold now in replacement. cfl's?
> > Loni
> >
> > --- On Sun, 4/24/11, Esther LeSieur <gomma@...> wrote:
> >
> > From: Esther LeSieur <gomma@...>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] US Government is phasing out incandescent light
> > bulbs...
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Sunday, April 24, 2011, 5:17 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Besides which, most people don't realize the compact fluorescent light
> > bulbs have mercury in them. If they break in your home, you need to
> > have a HazMat team come in to clean it up. Not good in homes where
> > children may knock lamps over, but anyone could drop a bulb while
> > changing one and suddenly your home becomes a hazardous site.
> >
> > Also, they are terrible for the environment. They must be disposed of
> > as hazardous waste. Most people will just throw them in the trash
> > because they either don't have a hazardous waste disposal collection
> > by their waste management company, or they just don't know. People
> > are told if they can't dispose of them at a hazardous waste facility,
> > they should wrap them in newspaper and put them in the trash! A lot
> > of good that's going to do in our landfills when they get broken, and
> > the mercury eventually leaches into our water supply. Plus what about
> > breakage in the garbage trucks and the waste collectors who are
> > exposed to the mercury? So in the name of energy savings, our health
> > is being put at risk and our environment will be further polluted.
> > Don't we have enough mercury filled fish already?
> >
> > I absolutely cannot tolerate fluorescent lights of any kind, including
> > the CFL's. Even my eye doctor has written an article in her
> > newsletter relating the eye strain they cause. I'm trying to stock up
> > on incandescents for the next 15 years, being optimistic that I'm
> > going to live that long.
> >
> > The phaseout is going to happen from 2012 to 2014, with the 100 watt
> > bulbs being eliminated first. Already, Target in my area (S.F. Bay
> > Area) isn't selling them any more and they are very hard to find.
> > They seem to be replacing all the incandescent bulbs with the halogen
> > ones as they sell out their stock.
> >
> > I've read that halogen bulbs are bad for a you, too. EMF's I think,
> > but I'd have to check. I have a halogen pole lamp I'm planning on
> > replacing.
> >
> > gomma
> >
> > On Apr 22, 2011, at 4:22 PM, pamela clemonts wrote:
> >
> > > This evening on ABC News there was a report that the US government
> > > was phasing out incandescent light bulbs. It told of how a Sylvania
> > > plant in PA was shifting over from incandescents to bulbs that look
> > > like old bulbs but actually have mini halogen lamps inside of them.
> > > I don't know about you, but the mini flourescents make me really
> > > sick (worse than the regular sized flourescents) and I have a friend
> > > who doesn't get sick from cell phones, but gets sick from halogen
> > > lamps. It's ghastly, what goes on... Whatever happened to options?
> > > Here we have the government making all these decisions without input
> > > from consumers or taxpayers.
> > >
> > > It's like they've already decided and we're maybe starting to catch
> > > a whiff of the plan as it unfolds. Most people still don't realize
> > > the changes that are being made in the name of energy
> > > sustainability. And let us be certain, this new found green
> > > consciousness seems to care very little about the eco-systems its
> > > development is challenging. The plot thickens...
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> >  
> >
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Marc Martin
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> they sell the incandescent light bulbs (look like)  that say "Double Life" on the box.
> Longer life of the bulb. Are those ok?  Loni

Yes, double-life incandescents are fine.  They probably have a lifetime of 4000 hours
instead of 2000 hours.  Some of the incandescents I buy have a rated lifetime of
20000 hours!  I think those bulbs are also exempt from the new laws, as they are
classified as "rough service" bulbs.

Marc
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Loni Rosser
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Thanks for answering my question! :o)  Loni

--- On Mon, 4/25/11, emraware <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: emraware <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: US Government is phasing out incandescent light bulbs...
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 6:10 PM


 



Yes, the curly ones are CFL's. Sometimes, they're hidden inside a normal-shaped bulb, so it's not always easy to spot.

BTW, I think halogens have high magnetic fields.

Next best to incandescent is probably LED, although I read somewhere that even those may not be as safe as incandescent (from EMF and vision standpoint). For LED, there may be some w/ spectral properties that are more or less damaging, so it's important to research to protect your eyes.

--- In [hidden email], Bill Bruno <wbruno@...> wrote:

>
> The light bulbs with the mini halogens inside may be OK.
> I think I have reacted to some because the filament vibrates in
> some cases. The halogens that cause the most problems
> are the low voltage ones, because they are usually powered
> by a SMPS and/or dimmer switch.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Loni <loni326@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > So are those the curly light bulbs being sold now in replacement. cfl's?
> > Loni
> >
> > --- On Sun, 4/24/11, Esther LeSieur <gomma@...> wrote:
> >
> > From: Esther LeSieur <gomma@...>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] US Government is phasing out incandescent light
> > bulbs...
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Sunday, April 24, 2011, 5:17 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Besides which, most people don't realize the compact fluorescent light
> > bulbs have mercury in them. If they break in your home, you need to
> > have a HazMat team come in to clean it up. Not good in homes where
> > children may knock lamps over, but anyone could drop a bulb while
> > changing one and suddenly your home becomes a hazardous site.
> >
> > Also, they are terrible for the environment. They must be disposed of
> > as hazardous waste. Most people will just throw them in the trash
> > because they either don't have a hazardous waste disposal collection
> > by their waste management company, or they just don't know. People
> > are told if they can't dispose of them at a hazardous waste facility,
> > they should wrap them in newspaper and put them in the trash! A lot
> > of good that's going to do in our landfills when they get broken, and
> > the mercury eventually leaches into our water supply. Plus what about
> > breakage in the garbage trucks and the waste collectors who are
> > exposed to the mercury? So in the name of energy savings, our health
> > is being put at risk and our environment will be further polluted.
> > Don't we have enough mercury filled fish already?
> >
> > I absolutely cannot tolerate fluorescent lights of any kind, including
> > the CFL's. Even my eye doctor has written an article in her
> > newsletter relating the eye strain they cause. I'm trying to stock up
> > on incandescents for the next 15 years, being optimistic that I'm
> > going to live that long.
> >
> > The phaseout is going to happen from 2012 to 2014, with the 100 watt
> > bulbs being eliminated first. Already, Target in my area (S.F. Bay
> > Area) isn't selling them any more and they are very hard to find.
> > They seem to be replacing all the incandescent bulbs with the halogen
> > ones as they sell out their stock.
> >
> > I've read that halogen bulbs are bad for a you, too. EMF's I think,
> > but I'd have to check. I have a halogen pole lamp I'm planning on
> > replacing.
> >
> > gomma
> >
> > On Apr 22, 2011, at 4:22 PM, pamela clemonts wrote:
> >
> > > This evening on ABC News there was a report that the US government
> > > was phasing out incandescent light bulbs. It told of how a Sylvania
> > > plant in PA was shifting over from incandescents to bulbs that look
> > > like old bulbs but actually have mini halogen lamps inside of them.
> > > I don't know about you, but the mini flourescents make me really
> > > sick (worse than the regular sized flourescents) and I have a friend
> > > who doesn't get sick from cell phones, but gets sick from halogen
> > > lamps. It's ghastly, what goes on... Whatever happened to options?
> > > Here we have the government making all these decisions without input
> > > from consumers or taxpayers.
> > >
> > > It's like they've already decided and we're maybe starting to catch
> > > a whiff of the plan as it unfolds. Most people still don't realize
> > > the changes that are being made in the name of energy
> > > sustainability. And let us be certain, this new found green
> > > consciousness seems to care very little about the eco-systems its
> > > development is challenging. The plot thickens...
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
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Loni Rosser
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Oh thanks Marc, I was concerned about that because what exactly would make them longer lasting so I didn't buy them........ but now I will. Loni

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From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
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Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 6:35 PM


 



> they sell the incandescent light bulbs (look like)  that say "Double Life" on the box.
> Longer life of the bulb. Are those ok?  Loni

Yes, double-life incandescents are fine. They probably have a lifetime of 4000 hours
instead of 2000 hours. Some of the incandescents I buy have a rated lifetime of
20000 hours! I think those bulbs are also exempt from the new laws, as they are
classified as "rough service" bulbs.

Marc







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Snoshoe
Source for incandescants you can no longer find in the stores, like
higher wattage, heavy duty for shop, 100W with brass bases.

www.1000bulbs.com

The way I've read it, is the 100w stopped being produced start of this year, by next year 75w, then no more of the rest.

This has been planned for several years, starting in CA. Well, it's overseas too.

Those cfl's are awful, besides the regular fluorescent problems, they also have a stronger emf because of the magnetic coil effect in the their shape, and they also emit more chemicals, and the ballast can/does burn out at the end of it's life emitting them into the air, they can catch fire, which they claim is normal!

I haven't heard of the halogen ones that look like regulars.

I bought one led bulb to try out, as the little led lights really bother me, but there was a marked down one. The lighting color is still rather sickly, and the ballast on them also gets quite hot. They are quite expensive, but probably better than the cfls, though I don't know what all is in their ballasts.

So, get your supplies in while they're still available.

~ Snoshoe


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Snoshoe
Also there is some Congressional action to stop the ban, but you can't count on that, since some idiots put it into place in the first place.
http://www.naturalnews.com/031070_incandescent_lights_2012.html#ixzz1Bq1ii6vu

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I went to a yoga class and they had the flourescent lights and my nerves started to tingle in my legs. Trying to do something healthy for me & I get fried. What a shame. Loni

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Source for incandescants you can no longer find in the stores, like
higher wattage, heavy duty for shop, 100W with brass bases.

www.1000bulbs.com

The way I've read it, is the 100w stopped being produced start of this year, by next year 75w, then no more of the rest.

This has been planned for several years, starting in CA. Well, it's overseas too.

Those cfl's are awful, besides the regular fluorescent problems, they also have a stronger emf because of the magnetic coil effect in the their shape, and they also emit more chemicals, and the ballast can/does burn out at the end of it's life emitting them into the air, they can catch fire, which they claim is normal!

I haven't heard of the halogen ones that look like regulars.

I bought one led bulb to try out, as the little led lights really bother me, but there was a marked down one. The lighting color is still rather sickly, and the ballast on them also gets quite hot. They are quite expensive, but probably better than the cfls, though I don't know what all is in their ballasts.

So, get your supplies in while they're still available.

~ Snoshoe

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We visited relative in a nice retirement center. I don't know how they stand those CFL's.

 I had all over body burning. My son a autism couldn't sit still & went in a game room w daylight.  On the way home my daugher & i I got headaches from cell towers.


Kathy

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> I went to a yoga class and they had the flourescent lights and my nerves started to tingle in my legs. Trying
> to do something healthy for me & I get fried. What a shame. Loni

Heh, heh... my wife owns a yoga studio, and I can assure you that the lighting in THAT studio is 100% incandescent... :-)

Marc
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Oh how funny Marc! I really have heard about the benefits of yoga however I didn't experience anything amazing since I was fried by the lights. So do you do Yoga? 
 
Loni

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> I went to a yoga class and they had the flourescent lights and my nerves started to tingle in my legs. Trying
> to do something healthy for me & I get fried. What a shame. Loni

Heh, heh... my wife owns a yoga studio, and I can assure you that the lighting in THAT studio is 100% incandescent... :-)

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> Oh how funny Marc! I really have heard about the benefits of yoga however I didn't experience anything
> amazing since I was fried by the lights. So do you do Yoga? 

No, I'm too busy helping out with the running of the studio (on top of my full-time job) to actually have time to DO yoga!  :-)

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Gotcha

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> Oh how funny Marc! I really have heard about the benefits of yoga however I didn't experience anything
> amazing since I was fried by the lights. So do you do Yoga? 

No, I'm too busy helping out with the running of the studio (on top of my full-time job) to actually have time to DO yoga! :-)

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> The way I've read it, is the 100w stopped being produced start of this year, by next year 75w,
> then no more of the rest.

The way I've read it, there are many incandescents bulbs that are exempt from the ban...
reflector bulbs, rough service, "plant lights", candelabra/torpedo bulbs, etc.  These exempt
bulbs are already the ones I'm buying for the most part.

And I don't see a problem with the halogen/incandescent bulbs.  These are essentially
the same as incandescents with a different gas inside the enclosure.  Also probably exempt
from the ban.

So maybe I could see a need to stock up on some plain 100w / 75w bulbs, but I could
probably find LED or halogen/incandescent bulbs to replace those.

Marc

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