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alinepapille

Trying to identify the RF problem

I have been living in an cottage for a month now and I thought I would be OK because my Sensory Perspective electrosmog detector doesn't register anything. But I have found that I sleep 4 hours then I wake up every hour till morning (with vivid dreams - many about being invaded!).

I borrowed a 50MHZ - 3.5GHZ meter and readings at night in my bedroom are 7-8 mV/m. Is this is considered high?

There are many wi-fi signals permeating the cottage, two of which are medium strength (two bars), but before this I was two months in a condo that had multiple wi-fi signals and I had no problem sleeping through the night.

I haven't got my head around the difference in types of signal but there is a radio tower within a quarter mile of me and I am wondering if this is the problem. There are also multiple cell phone towers a quarter mile the other direction.

Fortunately I am only staying here another month but I would like to get to the bottom of what is stopping me sleeping because I need to decide what area to live in long-term.

Thanks for any pearls of wisdom!
Aline

BiBrun

Re: Trying to identify the RF problem

None of your meters is looking at low frequency or dirty power.
A Gauss meter might tell you something, or an AM radio, or
try just turning off the breakers at night and see how you sleep.
A few mV/m RF has to be considered pretty good by today's standards,
though it seems for very sensitive people you'd want it more like
0.2 mV/m or less.

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:59 PM, alinepapille <[hidden email]> wrote:

> **
>
>
> I have been living in an cottage for a month now and I thought I would be
> OK because my Sensory Perspective electrosmog detector doesn't register
> anything. But I have found that I sleep 4 hours then I wake up every hour
> till morning (with vivid dreams - many about being invaded!).
>
> I borrowed a 50MHZ - 3.5GHZ meter and readings at night in my bedroom are
> 7-8 mV/m. Is this is considered high?
>
> There are many wi-fi signals permeating the cottage, two of which are
> medium strength (two bars), but before this I was two months in a condo
> that had multiple wi-fi signals and I had no problem sleeping through the
> night.
>
> I haven't got my head around the difference in types of signal but there
> is a radio tower within a quarter mile of me and I am wondering if this is
> the problem. There are also multiple cell phone towers a quarter mile the
> other direction.
>
> Fortunately I am only staying here another month but I would like to get
> to the bottom of what is stopping me sleeping because I need to decide what
> area to live in long-term.
>
> Thanks for any pearls of wisdom!
> Aline
>
>
>

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alinepapille

Re: Trying to identify the RF problem

Hi Bruno,

I do switch all the electricity off at night because I get much more refreshed that way (I rented a stand-alone cottage so that I can do that). I have a gauss meter but it's not picking up anything.

Has anyone found the frequency of radio towers to be particularly bothersome?

Aline

--- In [hidden email], Bill Bruno <wbruno@...> wrote:

>
> None of your meters is looking at low frequency or dirty power.
> A Gauss meter might tell you something, or an AM radio, or
> try just turning off the breakers at night and see how you sleep.
> A few mV/m RF has to be considered pretty good by today's standards,
> though it seems for very sensitive people you'd want it more like
> 0.2 mV/m or less.
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:59 PM, alinepapille <haikuron@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > I have been living in an cottage for a month now and I thought I would be
> > OK because my Sensory Perspective electrosmog detector doesn't register
> > anything. But I have found that I sleep 4 hours then I wake up every hour
> > till morning (with vivid dreams - many about being invaded!).
> >
> > I borrowed a 50MHZ - 3.5GHZ meter and readings at night in my bedroom are
> > 7-8 mV/m. Is this is considered high?
> >
> > There are many wi-fi signals permeating the cottage, two of which are
> > medium strength (two bars), but before this I was two months in a condo
> > that had multiple wi-fi signals and I had no problem sleeping through the
> > night.
> >
> > I haven't got my head around the difference in types of signal but there
> > is a radio tower within a quarter mile of me and I am wondering if this is
> > the problem. There are also multiple cell phone towers a quarter mile the
> > other direction.
> >
> > Fortunately I am only staying here another month but I would like to get
> > to the bottom of what is stopping me sleeping because I need to decide what
> > area to live in long-term.
> >
> > Thanks for any pearls of wisdom!
> > Aline
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

PUK

Re: Trying to identify the RF problem

In reply to this post by alinepapille

your missing something for sure ? Stray voltage on pipes, satellite
transmissions, low frequency rf, both in the air and on pipes wires, plats
anything conductive - definitely try the AM radio if you have one (trouble is
that some are better than others at this its a bit hit and miss) Your body may
be troubled by the change of emf scenery in the short term, ie going from a
high emr to a low emr scenario and so on.

puk

In a message dated 09/11/2011 23:01:23 GMT Standard Time, [hidden email]
writes:

Hi Bruno,

I do switch all the electricity off at night because I get much more
refreshed that way (I rented a stand-alone cottage so that I can do that). I
have a gauss meter but it's not picking up anything.

Has anyone found the frequency of radio towers to be particularly
bothersome?

Aline

--- In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) , Bill Bruno
<wbruno@...> wrote:

be
> > OK because my Sensory Perspective electrosmog detector doesn't register
> > anything. But I have found that I sleep 4 hours then I wake up every
hour
> > till morning (with vivid dreams - many about being invaded!).
> >
> > I borrowed a 50MHZ - 3.5GHZ meter and readings at night in my bedroom
are
> > 7-8 mV/m. Is this is considered high?
> >
> > There are many wi-fi signals permeating the cottage, two of which are
> > medium strength (two bars), but before this I was two months in a condo
> > that had multiple wi-fi signals and I had no problem sleeping through
the
> > night.
> >
> > I haven't got my head around the difference in types of signal but
there
> > is a radio tower within a quarter mile of me and I am wondering if
this is
> > the problem. There are also multiple cell phone towers a quarter mile
the
> > other direction.
> >
> > Fortunately I am only staying here another month but I would like to
get
> > to the bottom of what is stopping me sleeping because I need to decide
what

> > area to live in long-term.
> >
> > Thanks for any pearls of wisdom!
> > Aline
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

S Andreason

Re: Trying to identify the RF problem

In reply to this post by alinepapille

Hi Aline,

> I borrowed a 50MHZ - 3.5GHZ meter and readings at night in my bedroom are 7-8 mV/m. Is this is considered high?
>
Only in rural areas (with no towers nearby).

> There are many wi-fi signals permeating the cottage, two of which are medium strength (two bars), but before this I was two months in a condo that had multiple wi-fi signals and I had no problem sleeping through the night.
>
> I haven't got my head around the difference in types of signal but there is a radio tower within a quarter mile of me and I am wondering if this is the problem. There are also multiple cell phone towers a quarter mile the other direction.
>
>
Only one quarter mile, that's too close for me. Plus 2 bars of WiFi. I
would think this is sufficient to trouble your sleep.
You must have something between the tower and your cottage, as I usually
see higher numbers at that distance. For instance I get 70 mV/m when 5
miles from Colville (a hot spot for sure.) measured on both the TES-593,
and Acoustimeter also.

Stewart

alinepapille

Re: Trying to identify the RF problem

In reply to this post by PUK

The house on the same lot has a satellite dish for DirecTV and there is a solar panel on the cottage roof (for hot water). This sleep pattern has been going on for a month now - certainly not simply due to a new environment.

I get AM radio - doesn't everyone? Is that a known problem?

Aloha,
Aline
(yes, I'm in Hawaii)

--- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote:

>
> your missing something for sure ? Stray voltage on pipes, satellite
> transmissions, low frequency rf, both in the air and on pipes wires, plats
> anything conductive - definitely try the AM radio if you have one (trouble is
> that some are better than others at this its a bit hit and miss) Your body may
> be troubled by the change of emf scenery in the short term, ie going from a
> high emr to a low emr scenario and so on.
>
> puk
>
>
> In a message dated 09/11/2011 23:01:23 GMT Standard Time, haikuron@...
> writes:
>
>
>
>
> Hi Bruno,
>
> I do switch all the electricity off at night because I get much more
> refreshed that way (I rented a stand-alone cottage so that I can do that). I
> have a gauss meter but it's not picking up anything.
>
> Has anyone found the frequency of radio towers to be particularly
> bothersome?
>
> Aline
>
> --- In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) , Bill Bruno
> <wbruno@> wrote:
> >
> > None of your meters is looking at low frequency or dirty power.
> > A Gauss meter might tell you something, or an AM radio, or
> > try just turning off the breakers at night and see how you sleep.
> > A few mV/m RF has to be considered pretty good by today's standards,
> > though it seems for very sensitive people you'd want it more like
> > 0.2 mV/m or less.
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:59 PM, alinepapille <haikuron@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > I have been living in an cottage for a month now and I thought I would
> be
> > > OK because my Sensory Perspective electrosmog detector doesn't register
> > > anything. But I have found that I sleep 4 hours then I wake up every
> hour
> > > till morning (with vivid dreams - many about being invaded!).
> > >
> > > I borrowed a 50MHZ - 3.5GHZ meter and readings at night in my bedroom
> are
> > > 7-8 mV/m. Is this is considered high?
> > >
> > > There are many wi-fi signals permeating the cottage, two of which are
> > > medium strength (two bars), but before this I was two months in a condo
> > > that had multiple wi-fi signals and I had no problem sleeping through
> the
> > > night.
> > >
> > > I haven't got my head around the difference in types of signal but
> there
> > > is a radio tower within a quarter mile of me and I am wondering if
> this is
> > > the problem. There are also multiple cell phone towers a quarter mile
> the
> > > other direction.
> > >
> > > Fortunately I am only staying here another month but I would like to
> get
> > > to the bottom of what is stopping me sleeping because I need to decide
> what
> > > area to live in long-term.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any pearls of wisdom!
> > > Aline
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

alinepapille

Re: Trying to identify the RF problem

In reply to this post by S Andreason

Hi Stewart,

It must depend on the strength of the signal. I'm on a small island so perhaps the signal doesn't need to be very strong.

Or maybe it is the wi-fi. I might ask the people in the adjacent house to switch it off one night and see if I sleep.

Aline

--- In [hidden email], S Andreason <sandreas41@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Aline,
>
> > I borrowed a 50MHZ - 3.5GHZ meter and readings at night in my bedroom are 7-8 mV/m. Is this is considered high?
> >
> Only in rural areas (with no towers nearby).
>
>
> > There are many wi-fi signals permeating the cottage, two of which are medium strength (two bars), but before this I was two months in a condo that had multiple wi-fi signals and I had no problem sleeping through the night.
> >
> > I haven't got my head around the difference in types of signal but there is a radio tower within a quarter mile of me and I am wondering if this is the problem. There are also multiple cell phone towers a quarter mile the other direction.
> >
> >
> Only one quarter mile, that's too close for me. Plus 2 bars of WiFi. I
> would think this is sufficient to trouble your sleep.
> You must have something between the tower and your cottage, as I usually
> see higher numbers at that distance. For instance I get 70 mV/m when 5
> miles from Colville (a hot spot for sure.) measured on both the TES-593,
> and Acoustimeter also.
>
> Stewart
>

urbanpinetrees3

Re: Trying to identify the RF problem

In reply to this post by alinepapille

How does a person measure for satellite generated non-ionizing radiation?

K
--- In [hidden email], "alinepapille" <haikuron@...> wrote:

>
> The house on the same lot has a satellite dish for DirecTV and there is a solar panel on the cottage roof (for hot water). This sleep pattern has been going on for a month now - certainly not simply due to a new environment.
>
> I get AM radio - doesn't everyone? Is that a known problem?
>
> Aloha,
> Aline
> (yes, I'm in Hawaii)
>
> --- In [hidden email], paulpjc@ wrote:
> >
> > your missing something for sure ? Stray voltage on pipes, satellite
> > transmissions, low frequency rf, both in the air and on pipes wires, plats
> > anything conductive - definitely try the AM radio if you have one (trouble is
> > that some are better than others at this its a bit hit and miss) Your body may
> > be troubled by the change of emf scenery in the short term, ie going from a
> > high emr to a low emr scenario and so on.
> >
> > puk
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 09/11/2011 23:01:23 GMT Standard Time, haikuron@
> > writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Bruno,
> >
> > I do switch all the electricity off at night because I get much more
> > refreshed that way (I rented a stand-alone cottage so that I can do that). I
> > have a gauss meter but it's not picking up anything.
> >
> > Has anyone found the frequency of radio towers to be particularly
> > bothersome?
> >
> > Aline
> >
> > --- In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) , Bill Bruno
> > <wbruno@> wrote:
> > >
> > > None of your meters is looking at low frequency or dirty power.
> > > A Gauss meter might tell you something, or an AM radio, or
> > > try just turning off the breakers at night and see how you sleep.
> > > A few mV/m RF has to be considered pretty good by today's standards,
> > > though it seems for very sensitive people you'd want it more like
> > > 0.2 mV/m or less.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:59 PM, alinepapille <haikuron@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have been living in an cottage for a month now and I thought I would
> > be
> > > > OK because my Sensory Perspective electrosmog detector doesn't register
> > > > anything. But I have found that I sleep 4 hours then I wake up every
> > hour
> > > > till morning (with vivid dreams - many about being invaded!).
> > > >
> > > > I borrowed a 50MHZ - 3.5GHZ meter and readings at night in my bedroom
> > are
> > > > 7-8 mV/m. Is this is considered high?
> > > >
> > > > There are many wi-fi signals permeating the cottage, two of which are
> > > > medium strength (two bars), but before this I was two months in a condo
> > > > that had multiple wi-fi signals and I had no problem sleeping through
> > the
> > > > night.
> > > >
> > > > I haven't got my head around the difference in types of signal but
> > there
> > > > is a radio tower within a quarter mile of me and I am wondering if
> > this is
> > > > the problem. There are also multiple cell phone towers a quarter mile
> > the
> > > > other direction.
> > > >
> > > > Fortunately I am only staying here another month but I would like to
> > get
> > > > to the bottom of what is stopping me sleeping because I need to decide
> > what
> > > > area to live in long-term.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any pearls of wisdom!
> > > > Aline
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

alinepapille

Re: Is there a problem with satellite dishes?

I had wondered about the satellite dish - I think next door has one too. I slept in the living room last night which is further away from everything and only woke up the one time - after 4 hours, like clockwork. Must be to do with sleep stages (then dreams about a bunch of people coming into my cottage uninvited. Ok dream-self I get the message!)

??

--- In [hidden email], "urbanpinetrees3" <urbanpinetrees3@...> wrote:

>
>
> How does a person measure for satellite generated non-ionizing radiation?
>
> K
> --- In [hidden email], "alinepapille" <haikuron@> wrote:
> >
> > The house on the same lot has a satellite dish for DirecTV and there is a solar panel on the cottage roof (for hot water). This sleep pattern has been going on for a month now - certainly not simply due to a new environment.
> >
> > I get AM radio - doesn't everyone? Is that a known problem?
> >
> > Aloha,
> > Aline
> > (yes, I'm in Hawaii)
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], paulpjc@ wrote:
> > >
> > > your missing something for sure ? Stray voltage on pipes, satellite
> > > transmissions, low frequency rf, both in the air and on pipes wires, plats
> > > anything conductive - definitely try the AM radio if you have one (trouble is
> > > that some are better than others at this its a bit hit and miss) Your body may
> > > be troubled by the change of emf scenery in the short term, ie going from a
> > > high emr to a low emr scenario and so on.
> > >
> > > puk
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 09/11/2011 23:01:23 GMT Standard Time, haikuron@
> > > writes:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Bruno,
> > >
> > > I do switch all the electricity off at night because I get much more
> > > refreshed that way (I rented a stand-alone cottage so that I can do that). I
> > > have a gauss meter but it's not picking up anything.
> > >
> > > Has anyone found the frequency of radio towers to be particularly
> > > bothersome?
> > >
> > > Aline
> > >
> > > --- In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) , Bill Bruno
> > > <wbruno@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > None of your meters is looking at low frequency or dirty power.
> > > > A Gauss meter might tell you something, or an AM radio, or
> > > > try just turning off the breakers at night and see how you sleep.
> > > > A few mV/m RF has to be considered pretty good by today's standards,
> > > > though it seems for very sensitive people you'd want it more like
> > > > 0.2 mV/m or less.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:59 PM, alinepapille <haikuron@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > **
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been living in an cottage for a month now and I thought I would
> > > be
> > > > > OK because my Sensory Perspective electrosmog detector doesn't register
> > > > > anything. But I have found that I sleep 4 hours then I wake up every
> > > hour
> > > > > till morning (with vivid dreams - many about being invaded!).
> > > > >
> > > > > I borrowed a 50MHZ - 3.5GHZ meter and readings at night in my bedroom
> > > are
> > > > > 7-8 mV/m. Is this is considered high?
> > > > >
> > > > > There are many wi-fi signals permeating the cottage, two of which are
> > > > > medium strength (two bars), but before this I was two months in a condo
> > > > > that had multiple wi-fi signals and I had no problem sleeping through
> > > the
> > > > > night.
> > > > >
> > > > > I haven't got my head around the difference in types of signal but
> > > there
> > > > > is a radio tower within a quarter mile of me and I am wondering if
> > > this is
> > > > > the problem. There are also multiple cell phone towers a quarter mile
> > > the
> > > > > other direction.
> > > > >
> > > > > Fortunately I am only staying here another month but I would like to
> > > get
> > > > > to the bottom of what is stopping me sleeping because I need to decide
> > > what
> > > > > area to live in long-term.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for any pearls of wisdom!
> > > > > Aline
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

BiBrun

Re: Is there a problem with satellite dishes?

Dishes have a active electronics operating at several GHz to
down convert the signal, and power supply.
When unplugged they should be OK.
If the cable has tight bends or is damaged it will
radiate worse.

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:08 AM, alinepapille <[hidden email]> wrote:

> **
>
>
> I had wondered about the satellite dish - I think next door has one too. I
> slept in the living room last night which is further away from everything
> and only woke up the one time - after 4 hours, like clockwork. Must be to
> do with sleep stages (then dreams about a bunch of people coming into my
> cottage uninvited. Ok dream-self I get the message!)
>
> ??
>
> --- In [hidden email], "urbanpinetrees3" <urbanpinetrees3@...>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > How does a person measure for satellite generated non-ionizing radiation?
> >
> > K
> > --- In [hidden email], "alinepapille" <haikuron@> wrote:
> > >
> > > The house on the same lot has a satellite dish for DirecTV and there
> is a solar panel on the cottage roof (for hot water). This sleep pattern
> has been going on for a month now - certainly not simply due to a new
> environment.
> > >
> > > I get AM radio - doesn't everyone? Is that a known problem?
> > >
> > > Aloha,
> > > Aline
> > > (yes, I'm in Hawaii)
> > >
> > > --- In [hidden email], paulpjc@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > your missing something for sure ? Stray voltage on pipes, satellite
> > > > transmissions, low frequency rf, both in the air and on pipes wires,
> plats
> > > > anything conductive - definitely try the AM radio if you have one
> (trouble is
> > > > that some are better than others at this its a bit hit and miss)
> Your body may
> > > > be troubled by the change of emf scenery in the short term, ie going
> from a
> > > > high emr to a low emr scenario and so on.
> > > >
> > > > puk
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 09/11/2011 23:01:23 GMT Standard Time, haikuron@
> > > > writes:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Bruno,
> > > >
> > > > I do switch all the electricity off at night because I get much more
> > > > refreshed that way (I rented a stand-alone cottage so that I can do
> that). I
> > > > have a gauss meter but it's not picking up anything.
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone found the frequency of radio towers to be particularly
> > > > bothersome?
> > > >
> > > > Aline
> > > >
> > > > --- In _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) ,
> Bill Bruno
> > > > <wbruno@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > None of your meters is looking at low frequency or dirty power.
> > > > > A Gauss meter might tell you something, or an AM radio, or
> > > > > try just turning off the breakers at night and see how you sleep.
> > > > > A few mV/m RF has to be considered pretty good by today's
> standards,
> > > > > though it seems for very sensitive people you'd want it more like
> > > > > 0.2 mV/m or less.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:59 PM, alinepapille <haikuron@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > **
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have been living in an cottage for a month now and I thought I
> would
> > > > be
> > > > > > OK because my Sensory Perspective electrosmog detector doesn't
> register
> > > > > > anything. But I have found that I sleep 4 hours then I wake up
> every
> > > > hour
> > > > > > till morning (with vivid dreams - many about being invaded!).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I borrowed a 50MHZ - 3.5GHZ meter and readings at night in my
> bedroom
> > > > are
> > > > > > 7-8 mV/m. Is this is considered high?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are many wi-fi signals permeating the cottage, two of
> which are
> > > > > > medium strength (two bars), but before this I was two months in
> a condo
> > > > > > that had multiple wi-fi signals and I had no problem sleeping
> through
> > > > the
> > > > > > night.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I haven't got my head around the difference in types of signal
> but
> > > > there
> > > > > > is a radio tower within a quarter mile of me and I am wondering
> if
> > > > this is
> > > > > > the problem. There are also multiple cell phone towers a quarter
> mile
> > > > the
> > > > > > other direction.
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alinepapille

Re: Is there a problem with satellite dishes?

The dish isn't on my cottage and DirectTV is deactivated to the cottage as I had to get my own cable internet.

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> Dishes have a active electronics operating at several GHz to
> down convert the signal, and power supply.
> When unplugged they should be OK.
> If the cable has tight bends or is damaged it will
> radiate worse.
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alinepapille

Re: Trying to identify the RF problem

In reply to this post by S Andreason

Hi again Stewart,

I measured the RF from the radio tower from the beach today (with an unobstructed view) and it was in the in the 2000's (mV/m). Strange thing is that from another direction (in the park), similar distance but also with an unobstructed view, the reading was about 15 mV/m. Very strange.

Aline

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Re: Is there a problem with satellite dishes?

In reply to this post by BiBrun

Are you saying that the satellite dish radiates EMF or RH? What would be the meter reading around the dish and how far out does the radiation extend from the dish?

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From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Is there a problem with satellite dishes?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, November 10, 2011, 10:23 PM

Dishes have a active electronics operating at several GHz to
down convert the signal, and power supply.
When unplugged they should be OK.
If the cable has tight bends or is damaged it will
radiate worse.

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Re: Trying to identify the RF problem

In reply to this post by alinepapille

alinepapille wrote:
> I measured the RF from the radio tower from the beach today (with an unobstructed view) and it was in the in the 2000's (mV/m).

That is consistent with my observations within a mile of a tower getting
lots of use. 2 volts per meter is in the red.

> Strange thing is that from another direction (in the park), similar distance but also with an unobstructed view, the reading was about 15 mV/m. Very strange.
>

Could be the radiated pattern of the antennas. How many degrees
different is your heading or bearing to the tower from your two
observation points? (Compass heading) Towers typically have 3 antennas
for each provider, to cover the 360 degrees of a circle. If you are
right between two of those 3 spokes, then the levels should be lower.

It is a good possibility the antennas don't point directly at the park.

But I agree it is not usually _that_ much of a difference!

Stewart

S Andreason

Re: Trying to identify the RF problem

In reply to this post by alinepapille

alinepapille wrote:
> Has anyone found the frequency of radio towers to be particularly bothersome?
>
Hwy 395 passes wthin 1/2 mile of an FM (analog) radio tower between
Chewelah and Spokane, and yes I feel it strongly. For me it is not much
different than the other kinds of cell towers. The trigger is distance
and thus power density.

Stewart

evie15422

Re: Trying to identify the RF problem

In reply to this post by alinepapille

Hi Aline,

Interesting about your nightmares about being invaded. I get these too when I have reacted to being emfed at night. My husband has woken me up, saying I am screaming, moaning, or talking in my sleep when I have gotten them. I usually do not react to frequencies now at night, however, the last bout I had with them, I had left my rose quartz necklace at my old house (it is still not sold). I asked my husband to get it for me while he was out, and the next night was calm, even tho the frequencies were not changed. It also has allowed me to sleep better at night.

Hope you are doing better now,
Diane

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From: alinepapille <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 3:59 PM
Subject: [eSens] Trying to identify the RF problem

I have been living in an cottage for a month now and I thought I would be OK because my Sensory Perspective electrosmog detector doesn't register anything. But I have found that I sleep 4 hours then I wake up every hour till morning (with vivid dreams - many about being invaded!).

I borrowed a 50MHZ - 3.5GHZ meter and readings at night in my bedroom are 7-8 mV/m. Is this is considered high?

There are many wi-fi signals permeating the cottage, two of which are medium strength (two bars), but before this I was two months in a condo that had multiple wi-fi signals and I had no problem sleeping through the night.

I haven't got my head around the difference in types of signal but there is a radio tower within a quarter mile of me and I am wondering if this is the problem. There are also multiple cell phone towers a quarter mile the other direction.

Fortunately I am only staying here another month but I would like to get to the bottom of what is stopping me sleeping because I need to decide what area to live in long-term.

Thanks for any pearls of wisdom!
Aline

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Re: Trying to identify the RF problem

Hi Diane,

I recently discovered that if I take 2-3 mg of sustained release melatonin I can sleep up to 7 hours before I wake up. I was previously taking Dr Mercola's Sleep Support plus 1mg of sustained release melatonin and that used to give me a good night's sleep prior to moving here.

The Mercola product really knocks me out - but only for 4 hours. Now I now realize that the higher RF here is probably interfering (more) with melatonin production so upping my dose of the sustained-release has helped.

I had thought it was the RF affecting my brain waves and hence my sleep cycle but it seems to be a melatonin issue mostly.

Aloha,
Aline

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>
> Hi Aline,
>
> Interesting about your nightmares about being invaded. I get these too when I have reacted to being emfed at night. My husband has woken me up, saying I am screaming, moaning, or talking in my sleep when I have gotten them. I usually do not react to frequencies now at night, however, the last bout I had with them, I had left my rose quartz necklace at my old house (it is still not sold). I asked my husband to get it for me while he was out, and the next night was calm, even tho the frequencies were not changed. It also has allowed me to sleep better at night.
>
>
> Hope you are doing better now,
> Diane
>
>
>
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> From: alinepapille <haikuron@...>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 3:59 PM
> Subject: [eSens] Trying to identify the RF problem
>
> I have been living in an cottage for a month now and I thought I would be OK because my Sensory Perspective electrosmog detector doesn't register anything. But I have found that I sleep 4 hours then I wake up every hour till morning (with vivid dreams - many about being invaded!).
>
> I borrowed a 50MHZ - 3.5GHZ meter and readings at night in my bedroom are 7-8 mV/m. Is this is considered high?
>
> There are many wi-fi signals permeating the cottage, two of which are medium strength (two bars), but before this I was two months in a condo that had multiple wi-fi signals and I had no problem sleeping through the night.
>
> I haven't got my head around the difference in types of signal but there is a radio tower within a quarter mile of me and I am wondering if this is the problem. There are also multiple cell phone towers a quarter mile the other direction.
>
> Fortunately I am only staying here another month but I would like to get to the bottom of what is stopping me sleeping because I need to decide what area to live in long-term.
>
> Thanks for any pearls of wisdom!
> Aline
>
>
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Re: Trying to identify the RF problem

Aloha, Aline!

<I recently discovered that if I take 2-3 mg of sustained release
melatonin I can sleep up to 7 hours before I wake up. I was previously
taking Dr Mercola's Sleep Support plus 1mg of sustained release
melatonin and that used to give me a good night's sleep prior to moving
here.>

Good to hear that you've found something which helps! I used to take melatonin supplements and they never helped me. I perhaps was not taking enough of the right kind! Once, tho, I took a large dose of melatonin and could not sleep at all for over a week, so I was not inclined to do much experimenting after that. ;)

I found it so interesting that rose quartz helps sleeping. (Even more interesting that it helped me! ;) ) You have no idea what I used to try to get more sleep. I tried everything from Benedryl to Sleepy Time tea and everything in between. For over 20 years I slept only 2 to 4 hours a night.

Good luck on your upcoming trip. I hope it works out particularly well for you on the plane and on your lay-overs. There have been times when I have been "psyched" out by an upcoming trip somewhere (not by plane; just to somewhere I thought I would be particularly emf-ed). Most times, tho, I actually did much better than I had imagined. I hope that is your experience, as well.

Diane

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To: [hidden email]
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2011 2:09 PM
Subject: [eSens] Re: Trying to identify the RF problem

Hi Diane,

I recently discovered that if I take 2-3 mg of sustained release melatonin I can sleep up to 7 hours before I wake up. I was previously taking Dr Mercola's Sleep Support plus 1mg of sustained release melatonin and that used to give me a good night's sleep prior to moving here.

The Mercola product really knocks me out - but only for 4 hours. Now I now realize that the higher RF here is probably interfering (more) with melatonin production so upping my dose of the sustained-release has helped.

I had thought it was the RF affecting my brain waves and hence my sleep cycle but it seems to be a melatonin issue mostly.

Aloha,
Aline

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